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	<title>Comments on: All-Pro Football 2K8 sales fall flat</title>
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		<title>By: DingKing</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-3011</link>
		<dc:creator>DingKing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as for your last comment Addict if Visual Concepts had a license and published the EXACT same game with no franchise, no crib, no anything it&#039;d get the same reviews. Stop fooling yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as for your last comment Addict if Visual Concepts had a license and published the EXACT same game with no franchise, no crib, no anything it&#8217;d get the same reviews. Stop fooling yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: DingKing</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-3010</link>
		<dc:creator>DingKing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Maddenite true and true but at the same time who couldn&#039;t have seen this coming? Most people don&#039;t realize at the time 2K5&#039;s pricing was Take-Two&#039;s idea and not Sega who at the time owned Visual Concepts. When the NFL License went up for bidding Sega refused to pony up the dough for it and instead merged with Guilty Gear maker Sammy. Competition is always good but in today&#039;s world money talks and BS walks. EA gave the NFL the money and in exchange they got the license. Nobody liked Take-Two buying the third party MLB license either but look where we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Maddenite true and true but at the same time who couldn&#8217;t have seen this coming? Most people don&#8217;t realize at the time 2K5&#8217;s pricing was Take-Two&#8217;s idea and not Sega who at the time owned Visual Concepts. When the NFL License went up for bidding Sega refused to pony up the dough for it and instead merged with Guilty Gear maker Sammy. Competition is always good but in today&#8217;s world money talks and BS walks. EA gave the NFL the money and in exchange they got the license. Nobody liked Take-Two buying the third party MLB license either but look where we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Addict</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-2987</link>
		<dc:creator>Addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the last 2k game had a better review than madden and if 2k8 had nfl license then I gaurentee the game wouldve had a better review than Madden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the last 2k game had a better review than madden and if 2k8 had nfl license then I gaurentee the game wouldve had a better review than Madden.</p>
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		<title>By: Addict</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-2986</link>
		<dc:creator>Addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how Madden fans are talking trash. Fear was the reason for Madden to cowardly attain exclusive NFL license. 2k8 wouldve taken a bigger chunk of the pie if NFL didnt give Madden exclusive rights. Stupid NFL should not let one company monopolise the game industry.

It&#039;s not a fair competition, 2k8 is handicapped. It&#039;s like running against a diabled in a 100 yard dash...so dont talk trash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how Madden fans are talking trash. Fear was the reason for Madden to cowardly attain exclusive NFL license. 2k8 wouldve taken a bigger chunk of the pie if NFL didnt give Madden exclusive rights. Stupid NFL should not let one company monopolise the game industry.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a fair competition, 2k8 is handicapped. It&#8217;s like running against a diabled in a 100 yard dash&#8230;so dont talk trash.</p>
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		<title>By: Despacio</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Despacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause.

All of you Madden fanboys happy about this news are disgusting. Your cheering the death of Madden right alongside these low sales numbers. Don&#039;t you guys get that, are you so brainwashed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause.</p>
<p>All of you Madden fanboys happy about this news are disgusting. Your cheering the death of Madden right alongside these low sales numbers. Don&#8217;t you guys get that, are you so brainwashed?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan- If Madden is similar to NCAA (and it very likely is)- there is no way in hell that it will be better than 2K8.  There are so many things that the 2K engine gets right and the Tiburon engine gets wrong (just for starters, timing routes, pass drops, pass pockets, OL/DL interaction, gang tackling physics, ball velocity and arc, zone spacing), but these things go completely unnoticed by mainstream gaming media, who, let&#039;s face it, would rather be playing Zelda.

I enjoy Madden and NCAA, but anyone who thinks that the game engine is anywhere close to 2K8 in simulating football doesn&#039;t know what they are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan- If Madden is similar to NCAA (and it very likely is)- there is no way in hell that it will be better than 2K8.  There are so many things that the 2K engine gets right and the Tiburon engine gets wrong (just for starters, timing routes, pass drops, pass pockets, OL/DL interaction, gang tackling physics, ball velocity and arc, zone spacing), but these things go completely unnoticed by mainstream gaming media, who, let&#8217;s face it, would rather be playing Zelda.</p>
<p>I enjoy Madden and NCAA, but anyone who thinks that the game engine is anywhere close to 2K8 in simulating football doesn&#8217;t know what they are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-1997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is true, but 2k really had to try something in order to create a larger fanbase. EA had been pushing for an exclusive deal anyone, the price cut was the wavering reason to allow that to finally happen.

Yeah, 2k8 is priced at $60, but so was Madden 06 and you can&#039;t tell me Madden 06 was a better title. 2k will be back so long as EA doesn&#039;t snatch up their legends idea. With a franchise mode next year there&#039;s just no way Madden will be reviewed higher, unless they totally change their entire engine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true, but 2k really had to try something in order to create a larger fanbase. EA had been pushing for an exclusive deal anyone, the price cut was the wavering reason to allow that to finally happen.</p>
<p>Yeah, 2k8 is priced at $60, but so was Madden 06 and you can&#8217;t tell me Madden 06 was a better title. 2k will be back so long as EA doesn&#8217;t snatch up their legends idea. With a franchise mode next year there&#8217;s just no way Madden will be reviewed higher, unless they totally change their entire engine.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-1996</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is the end. Madden was going to win in sales but to actually be the better game (as said by numerous gaming web sites who were at e3 where both Madden and 2K8 was being shown, every web site had Madden as the best sports game)is a huge blow. So long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is the end. Madden was going to win in sales but to actually be the better game (as said by numerous gaming web sites who were at e3 where both Madden and 2K8 was being shown, every web site had Madden as the best sports game)is a huge blow. So long.</p>
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		<title>By: pastapadre</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2007/08/03/all-pro-football-2k8-sales-fall-flat/comment-page-1#comment-1970</link>
		<dc:creator>pastapadre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that decision ended up costing them and in hindsight it was a big mistake. It led to the loss of the NFL license, and it caused people to evaluated 2K8 as if it was a $40 price increase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that decision ended up costing them and in hindsight it was a big mistake. It led to the loss of the NFL license, and it caused people to evaluated 2K8 as if it was a $40 price increase.</p>
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		<title>By: ThBeNdS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThBeNdS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 23:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;sfunny you mention the marketing because it was the marketing that made 2k5&#039;s name with the $20 price tag... genius!!! Obviously some people have left 2k that were there back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;sfunny you mention the marketing because it was the marketing that made 2k5&#8217;s name with the $20 price tag&#8230; genius!!! Obviously some people have left 2k that were there back then.</p>
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