Comments on: Is there a future for All-Pro Football?

By: mugginns

mugginns — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:51:09 +0000

This article is nothing more than amateur internet guessing with crap piled on. The part where she speculates that T2 could be the target of a lawsuit because it has legends in it is comedy gold.

By: frtiz

frtiz — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:03:36 +0000

if it ends up being a madden monopoly on football titles, I will stop playing football videogames.

if hope 2k (and others) continue to make football games.

By: Sean

Sean — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:30:46 +0000

Hardly. 2K5 was a tremendous game (although 2K4 was at least as good), and APF 2K8 is the best football simulation on the market. The DB AI has a few issues, but at the end of the day, it plays honestly- if a defender can see the ball, he breaks on it, and if he can’t, he doesn’t. It’s a stark contrast to Madden, where every defender peels off their man and attacks the ball as soon as it leaves the QBs hand, regardless of the defender’s orientation or assignment. The DB AI in Madden is an absolute train wreck, but because it’s challenging, it gets confused with being good. It’s not. I enjoy Madden, I’m playing the hell out of it at the moment…but it’s nowhere near the sim game that 2K8 is.

By: DingKing

DingKing — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:17:11 +0000

The 2K engine became terrible once the game switched from Dreamcast to PS2 and Xbox. This became evident with NFL 2K3, 2K4, and the supposed “Holy Grail of Football” NFL 2K5. Those games were riddled with crazy glitches and even worse A.I. The game doesn’t even put up the sales to compete with Madden. NFL 2K2 was Visual Concepts’s best effort NOT NFL 2K5 IMO. The only reason people hold NFL 2K5 in such high regard is because it was 20 bucks.

By: Booforyou

Booforyou — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:50:34 +0000

They barely Marketed the game. THey had hardly no offline. I dont know what they were really expecting. I enjoy the game. This is by far the best Sim football game ever put out IMO. If you dont market it, its not going to sell. especially a non NFL game.

By: Nick Ohrn

Nick Ohrn — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:26:43 +0000

I own APF, NCAA 08, and Madden 08, and I have to say that all are very fun games. However, the fact that APF football doesn’t have anything even close to the in depth management features that NCAA 08 and Madden 08 have is a major drawback.

As soon as NCAA came out, I was sucked into the campus legend mode and APF went on the shelf, never to have been played since. This is unfortunate because I really liked the running game in APF. It felt like the running backs had a little more momentum then they should have, but at least they had some.

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:09:30 +0000

Considering that 2K’s game wasn’t able to compete with Madden when it had the license, it’s no surprise to see the sales of APF being what they are. That said, it would be tragic if the company pulled the plug, as it’s the best football game on the market.

I strongly suspect the future of the franchise depends on whether or not the NFL decides to open up exclusivity. APF was always designed with the idea of being a placeholder. If EA locks up the license again (and there’s no reason to think that they won’t), that will likely be that.

By: shoeprint

shoeprint — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:13:39 +0000

w/o franchise mode… its not a good look… Online is the only fun part about it…

By: donbincente

donbincente — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:04:55 +0000

this report sucks, but not surprising…
my only hope is the NFL sees what a great football engine 2k has & allows 2k to make a competing game…
not sure if they can next season. but if not, expect the same madden next year & the next & the next…

GO NINERS

By: Fort

Fort — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:03:10 +0000

That should read ‘Essentially’, not ‘In a sense’. Not sure what I was thinking.