Comments on: Madden 09 website launches; new Head Coach videos and features http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:58:00 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: darkheath http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16415 darkheath Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:14:42 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16415 Great point, DLaren. Great point, DLaren.

]]> By: DLaren http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16406 DLaren Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:42:21 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16406 [quote comment="16403"]Yeah... that interview seemed pointless. He, of course, left it wide open to release it later anyway (kinda like Valve milking the hell out of HalfLife 2). And what about that poor developer's dad? He has to fork over $90 just to play HC. This seems like a BS marketing ploy to move more CEs.[/quote] ...And even if EA never sells HC as a standalone, it's almost guranteed to be available on Ebay and in the used section of video-game stores. [quote comment="16403"]Yeah… that interview seemed pointless. He, of course, left it wide open to release it later anyway (kinda like Valve milking the hell out of HalfLife 2). And what about that poor developer’s dad? He has to fork over $90 just to play HC. This seems like a BS marketing ploy to move more CEs.[/quote]

…And even if EA never sells HC as a standalone, it’s almost guranteed to be available on Ebay and in the used section of video-game stores.

]]> By: darkheath http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16404 darkheath Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:33:17 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16404 Oh... thanks for the reference, BTW. Oh… thanks for the reference, BTW.

]]> By: darkheath http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16403 darkheath Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:32:50 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16403 Yeah... that interview seemed pointless. He, of course, left it wide open to release it later anyway (kinda like Valve milking the hell out of HalfLife 2). And what about that poor developer's dad? He has to fork over $90 just to play HC. This seems like a BS marketing ploy to move more CEs. Yeah… that interview seemed pointless. He, of course, left it wide open to release it later anyway (kinda like Valve milking the hell out of HalfLife 2). And what about that poor developer’s dad? He has to fork over $90 just to play HC. This seems like a BS marketing ploy to move more CEs.

]]> By: pastapadre http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16401 pastapadre Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:04:13 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16401 [quote comment="16396"]Where exactly is everyone getting that HC won't ALSO be a stand-alone? I'm thinking they'll also release it as a $40-50 title. Why wouldn't they?[/quote] It started with the press release which states its exclusive to the Madden CE. That was then confirmed by 1up: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167134 But yeah, I have my doubts it'll remain this way. [quote comment="16396"]Where exactly is everyone getting that HC won’t ALSO be a stand-alone? I’m thinking they’ll also release it as a $40-50 title. Why wouldn’t they?[/quote]

It started with the press release which states its exclusive to the Madden CE. That was then confirmed by 1up:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167134

But yeah, I have my doubts it’ll remain this way.

]]> By: Rob http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16397 Rob Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:16:37 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16397 It is funny how so many people are pumped up for NFL Head Coach 09. The last one was a huge dissapointment and now EA Sports is trying to hype it up. They hyped up Madden 08 too and that game turned out awful. Expect NFL Head Coach 09 to be bad because they won't even sell it separate. EA Sports are money hungry and would sell it separate if it was completely legit. Mighty Boom is right, Madden 09 will have its share of glitches which will make it unplayable and Head Coach 09 will just make you pay 30 dollars more for a mediocre at best Madden game plus a mini game. Say no to exclusive agreements! It is funny how so many people are pumped up for NFL Head Coach 09. The last one was a huge dissapointment and now EA Sports is trying to hype it up. They hyped up Madden 08 too and that game turned out awful. Expect NFL Head Coach 09 to be bad because they won’t even sell it separate. EA Sports are money hungry and would sell it separate if it was completely legit. Mighty Boom is right, Madden 09 will have its share of glitches which will make it unplayable and Head Coach 09 will just make you pay 30 dollars more for a mediocre at best Madden game plus a mini game. Say no to exclusive agreements!

]]> By: darkheath http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16396 darkheath Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:15:09 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16396 Where exactly is everyone getting that HC won't ALSO be a stand-alone? I'm thinking they'll also release it as a $40-50 title. Why wouldn't they? Where exactly is everyone getting that HC won’t ALSO be a stand-alone? I’m thinking they’ll also release it as a $40-50 title. Why wouldn’t they?

]]> By: Eric http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16392 Eric Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:06:42 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16392 [quote comment="16349"]There are really, after all the hoopla and ballyhoo. only two items of interest here: 1) If true, the fact that EA is only bundling HC in the Collector's edition of Madden means they basically pulled the plug on the game by deeming it unprofitable as a standalone 2) If the idea is that HC will have robust franchise, play editing, and coaching functionality - don't expect those in Madden as the feature set would be redundant in a bundled package Not to say that Madden won't have other new stuff - but don't look for HC type features in Madden[/quote] I totally agree with this post. If EA thought Head Coach was a good game, they would sell it seperately and make $30 more dollars on the deal. EA didn't get to be the biggest game publisher in the world by doing the consumer a favor. [quote comment="16350"][quote comment="16349"]If true, the fact that EA is only bundling HC in the Collector's edition of Madden means they basically pulled the plug on the game by deeming it unprofitable as a standalone[/quote] Not necessarily. It could simply be a way of introducing the title to the casual player who normally wouldn't buy a coaching sim. Plus, the original Head Coach didn't garner many fans, so this is also a way to have people give it another shot.[/quote] Peter Moore has said multiple times that he wants to make the EA Sports games more casual and user friendly. Adding this to the Madden package goes against that idea, unless you position it that Head Coach makes Madden more of a total sim, versus Madden along being more pickup and play for the casual user. I see this as being the gateway to EA removing more features from Madden and making them part of HC, so that you buy HC to get the fully featured Madden with in-depth franchise/coach/owner mode. This makes Madden more simple and approachable for a novice while still allowing the hardcore player to get all the features they want. Similar to how they sell NCAA. Granted NCAA used to be a good game on its own, but you can't deny that being able to export your draft class to Madden helps sell that game. [quote comment="16349"]There are really, after all the hoopla and ballyhoo. only two items of interest here:

1) If true, the fact that EA is only bundling HC in the Collector’s edition of Madden means they basically pulled the plug on the game by deeming it unprofitable as a standalone

2) If the idea is that HC will have robust franchise, play editing, and coaching functionality – don’t expect those in Madden as the feature set would be redundant in a bundled package

Not to say that Madden won’t have other new stuff – but don’t look for HC type features in Madden[/quote]

I totally agree with this post. If EA thought Head Coach was a good game, they would sell it seperately and make $30 more dollars on the deal. EA didn’t get to be the biggest game publisher in the world by doing the consumer a favor.

[quote comment="16350"][quote comment="16349"]If true, the fact that EA is only bundling HC in the Collector’s edition of Madden means they basically pulled the plug on the game by deeming it unprofitable as a standalone[/quote]

Not necessarily. It could simply be a way of introducing the title to the casual player who normally wouldn’t buy a coaching sim. Plus, the original Head Coach didn’t garner many fans, so this is also a way to have people give it another shot.[/quote]

Peter Moore has said multiple times that he wants to make the EA Sports games more casual and user friendly. Adding this to the Madden package goes against that idea, unless you position it that Head Coach makes Madden more of a total sim, versus Madden along being more pickup and play for the casual user.

I see this as being the gateway to EA removing more features from Madden and making them part of HC, so that you buy HC to get the fully featured Madden with in-depth franchise/coach/owner mode. This makes Madden more simple and approachable for a novice while still allowing the hardcore player to get all the features they want.

Similar to how they sell NCAA. Granted NCAA used to be a good game on its own, but you can’t deny that being able to export your draft class to Madden helps sell that game.

]]> By: Young Gun http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16352 Young Gun Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:50:36 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16352 [quote comment="16347"]Im dissapointed. Im getting the feeling were going to get the same rehashed game. But OH WAIT!? It come with HC!! So no innovative game play and Im sure there is going to be some glitch in the game, ala int/fummbles, in this years version. But lets not worrie about it. We have HC! Screw HC. The focus should be on improving Madden.[/quote] You do know that it is different teams working on each game, right? [quote comment="16347"]Im dissapointed. Im getting the feeling were going to get the same rehashed game. But OH WAIT!? It come with HC!! So no innovative game play and Im sure there is going to be some glitch in the game, ala int/fummbles, in this years version. But lets not worrie about it. We have HC! Screw HC. The focus should be on improving Madden.[/quote]

You do know that it is different teams working on each game, right?

]]> By: blitzy http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/03/27/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features/comment-page-1#comment-16351 blitzy Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:09:29 +0000 http://www.pastapadre.com/2484/madden-09-website-launches-new-head-coach-videos-and-features#comment-16351 can't wait, so they are coming out when now? can’t wait, so they are coming out when now?

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