2K Sports struggling with MLB 2K8 community relations

by pastapadre
Posted April 4th, 2008 at 6:06 pm

I’ve held off writing about the current patch situation for MLB 2K8 throughout the week. My general feeling was that just waiting on the patch isn’t really news. But developments over the past few days warrant some discussion.

March 13th was the day the news came out (via Game Informer) that a patch was in the works to address the poor framerate and Padres franchise roster glitch for the 360 along with a PS3 patch that would only fix Padres issue. Amusingly 11 days later 2K Sports sent out their official press release which was the exact statement that had been made prior. In both cases it was mentioned that the patch was already under technical review and was to be released shortly. So here we are three weeks later and that has yet to happen.

Earlier this week overly eager 2K Sports representatives on their official forum posted information that the patch was going to be released on Monday night. That didn’t happen. Then one actually posted that the patch had gone live with instructions on how to get it on Tuesday morning. It hadn’t. Then it was that the patch release was simply “imminent”. Three days since that period apparently started and still nothing. But things have really been elevated now as they have started blaming Microsoft for a delay. Doing that publicly to a company who they have a business relationship with is irresponsible and inappropriate.

Ironically today the Opening Day Weekend online event on the 360 began. Certainly they had hoped to have the patch out beforehand considering the game is practically unplayable online. There is no guarantee anyway that the patch will even improve online performance. It is just about as bad as you can get for a sports title since you have to start swinging before the pitch is even released. That basically negates any reason to even play to begin with. They still haven’t even fixed how the game freezes your console when you accept challenges in lobby rooms. This apparently was not lost upon the developers scheduled to play as it was 45 minutes into the two hour period before all of them were actually online.

Regardless of whether or not the patch has cleared certification on either on the 360, PS3, or both the real issue is with the terrible job of communication in regards to the patch status and the mistreatment of consumers in their official forums. Condescending remarks are being made towards posters, demands and ban threats are being made frequently, threads are being locked or deleted at an alarming rate. These consumers just want answers and are anxious for the patch to arrive. Treating them in this manner is not a good PR move and unfair considering the position they have been placed in. You don’t promise a date and time for something (even go so far as announcing it was actually out) when you can’t be certain of it. Did they not just go through this with the demos? If you do you have to be prepared to deal with the situation and not berate those who are left wondering what is going on.

In the end it all falls on 2K regardless of how things are playing out now and why the patch still hasn’t gone live. The game was released with severe issues which has kept it from functioning as advertised. The responsibility has been with them for releasing it in that condition and still lies with them as they attempt to improve the game to a level of respectability via patch. The current failings in communication and interaction with consumers isn’t doing them any favors either and I suspect Microsoft is not very pleased with this situation as well.

Tags: patch

TonythePony

[quote comment="16932"]For anyone still in college and studying sociology, the 2K boards, and to a lesser extent this site, would make a great study grounp for a Mob Psycholgy 101 study …

The facts of the matter, damn those facts!, are that the game offline plays a good game of baseball, and that the choppiness – while impacting aesthectics – doesn’t stop anyone from playing a game. I’m 50 games in and enjoying it. Online is pretty hit and miss, I’ve had some decent games, had some horrible games – and can therefore add this title to a long (too long) list of sports titles that don’t perform as they should online

Some low-level new mod promised a patch that didn’t come out, no doubt because he either didn’t understand what his Microsoft peeps told him, or he was talking to a low level person who didn’t have authority to tell him it was a “go”

I think the real story is the over-the-top Internet world we live in where someone can buy a fair to middlin’ game and feel completely and smugly justified to throw as many profane, illogical, and rude posts on a message board and feign shock and horror when those posts are ignored or deleted and their “rights” are being abused. The call for class action lawsuits and letters to consumer advisory boards are beyond absurd

BTW – my thoughts apply on this to any sports game – the insane Madden hate (when’s the Why Does Everyone Hate Madden article coming Pasta?) that exists is just as nonsensical every year[/quote]

What game are you playing? On my nice HDTV the game looks PAINFULLY bad, certainly nothing I would pay 60 bucks for. Give me the PROMISED patch, that all changes. That people are actually sticking up for 2k almost physically sickens me, and definitely makes me think you are a little sheep, content to do whatever Master 2k tells you to do.
TonythePony

[quote comment="16932"]For anyone still in college and studying sociology, the 2K boards, and to a lesser extent this site, would make a great study grounp for a Mob Psycholgy 101 study …

The facts of the matter, damn those facts!, are that the game offline plays a good game of baseball, and that the choppiness – while impacting aesthectics – doesn’t stop anyone from playing a game. I’m 50 games in and enjoying it. Online is pretty hit and miss, I’ve had some decent games, had some horrible games – and can therefore add this title to a long (too long) list of sports titles that don’t perform as they should online

Some low-level new mod promised a patch that didn’t come out, no doubt because he either didn’t understand what his Microsoft peeps told him, or he was talking to a low level person who didn’t have authority to tell him it was a “go”

I think the real story is the over-the-top Internet world we live in where someone can buy a fair to middlin’ game and feel completely and smugly justified to throw as many profane, illogical, and rude posts on a message board and feign shock and horror when those posts are ignored or deleted and their “rights” are being abused. The call for class action lawsuits and letters to consumer advisory boards are beyond absurd

BTW – my thoughts apply on this to any sports game – the insane Madden hate (when’s the Why Does Everyone Hate Madden article coming Pasta?) that exists is just as nonsensical every year[/quote]

What game are you playing? On my nice HDTV the game looks PAINFULLY bad, certainly nothing I would pay 60 bucks for. Give me the PROMISED patch, that all changes. That people are actually sticking up for 2k almost physically sickens me, and definitely makes me think you are a little sheep, content to do whatever Master 2k tells you to do.
Staggerlee

Shoot I wouldnt put it past Microsoft and EA (the makers of COD) to have done this intentionally. This is big business and EA has very very much to gain by the Failure of 2k la. Like their own MLB title next year if they damage them enough. I might have my tin foil hat on , but I would bet money that EA is behind this delay and microsoft behind latency.
Staggerlee

Shoot I wouldnt put it past Microsoft and EA (the makers of COD) to have done this intentionally. This is big business and EA has very very much to gain by the Failure of 2k la. Like their own MLB title next year if they damage them enough. I might have my tin foil hat on , but I would bet money that EA is behind this delay and microsoft behind latency.
honestly

ive never seen an official forum operated so poorly as the 2K one is. the guys who run it and are somehow employed by 2K have no idea what they are doing. things wouldnt be nearly this bad had they not stirred it all up. a simple apology and statement that the patch would be out once it is finally cleared by ms and sony probably wouldve kept things from getting out of hand. instead they kept wanting to give out inside info and string people along and find themselves surprised when people arent happy about it and question if it has all been true or not.
honestly

ive never seen an official forum operated so poorly as the 2K one is. the guys who run it and are somehow employed by 2K have no idea what they are doing. things wouldnt be nearly this bad had they not stirred it all up. a simple apology and statement that the patch would be out once it is finally cleared by ms and sony probably wouldve kept things from getting out of hand. instead they kept wanting to give out inside info and string people along and find themselves surprised when people arent happy about it and question if it has all been true or not.
TonythePony

I can’t wait til tomorrow and see what lies spew forth from that forum. It’s also so funny that all the little apologists have NO explanation as to why the PS3 patch didn’t go live, I suppose the “xbox live issues” messed it up as well, hahaha
TonythePony

I can’t wait til tomorrow and see what lies spew forth from that forum. It’s also so funny that all the little apologists have NO explanation as to why the PS3 patch didn’t go live, I suppose the “xbox live issues” messed it up as well, hahaha
orrfinbudy

This is off topic but I need help with the right analog
stick pitching.

I can pitch just fine until someone gets on base and I have to go from the stretch. Then it’s like it doesn’t recognize the movements. Does this happen to anyone else?
http://www.nba-live.com/ PDub

I have been a skeptic of getting this game. I probably won’t get it unless people say the patch improves it’s flaws.

What probably happened with the patch is that the forum moderator made a mistake in announcing the suspected date of the patch’s release. The patch could have also failed the technical review. 2k could have also decided to hold back on releasing the patch and continue developing it after a “new discovery” during the patch’s development.

It could also be a decision from higher in the company. Since they are having financial trouble, it may not be worth it to continue a patch if the company is going to be bought within the next few months.

I think they know the issues and are just working har on the patch, that is why they are deleting new posts regarding the patch. We all know 2K works hard developing great games and doesn’t tell you much about them til the last moment. They are busy finishing the patch. Give them some breathing room. You’ll forget everything once a patch is released anyways, since they usually fix alot. Remember the NBA 2K8 patch?
orrfinbudy

This is off topic but I need help with the right analog
stick pitching.

I can pitch just fine until someone gets on base and I have to go from the stretch. Then it’s like it doesn’t recognize the movements. Does this happen to anyone else?
http://www.nba-live.com PDub

I have been a skeptic of getting this game. I probably won’t get it unless people say the patch improves it’s flaws.

What probably happened with the patch is that the forum moderator made a mistake in announcing the suspected date of the patch’s release. The patch could have also failed the technical review. 2k could have also decided to hold back on releasing the patch and continue developing it after a “new discovery” during the patch’s development.

It could also be a decision from higher in the company. Since they are having financial trouble, it may not be worth it to continue a patch if the company is going to be bought within the next few months.

I think they know the issues and are just working har on the patch, that is why they are deleting new posts regarding the patch. We all know 2K works hard developing great games and doesn’t tell you much about them til the last moment. They are busy finishing the patch. Give them some breathing room. You’ll forget everything once a patch is released anyways, since they usually fix alot. Remember the NBA 2K8 patch?
Nick

Great article, I own The Show, so I don’t know how bad it is but I hope they get it fixed for the people who do own it.
Nick

Great article, I own The Show, so I don’t know how bad it is but I hope they get it fixed for the people who do own it.
Groundhog

People are defending 2K because USUALLY they come through with the goods, and because EA has inspired so much hatred over the past half-decade with their shoddy quality control. Is it worth reminding everyone that franchise mode in Madden 2k8 was BROKEN out of the box? There was a rather lengthy delay before a fix came about for that either – long enough to see me take the disc out of my console and never put it back in again.

If 2K said the patch was out, or was soon to be out, that would be because the people who said that thought it actually *was* about to be released. I doubt very much they intentionally lied about it, knowing full well that they would then look very stupid when it wasn’t there. This would hardly be the first time a patch was held up by Microsoft – there is often a lengthy gap between the PS3 and 360 patches being released for titles.

I’m not defending 2K on this particular issue, as the title should never have been released with these problems, and there is no excuse for it. However with these yearly titles and the deadlines the developers – both for EA and 2K – are working with, it’s unfortunately become expected that we see these issues. I don’t blame the developers, I blame the folks higher up who set the unrealistic deadlines.

In a perfect world we’d be seeing a release only every 2 years from these titles, but with the amount of cash the companies would be missing out on, that just won’t happen.
Groundhog

People are defending 2K because USUALLY they come through with the goods, and because EA has inspired so much hatred over the past half-decade with their shoddy quality control. Is it worth reminding everyone that franchise mode in Madden 2k8 was BROKEN out of the box? There was a rather lengthy delay before a fix came about for that either – long enough to see me take the disc out of my console and never put it back in again.

If 2K said the patch was out, or was soon to be out, that would be because the people who said that thought it actually *was* about to be released. I doubt very much they intentionally lied about it, knowing full well that they would then look very stupid when it wasn’t there. This would hardly be the first time a patch was held up by Microsoft – there is often a lengthy gap between the PS3 and 360 patches being released for titles.

I’m not defending 2K on this particular issue, as the title should never have been released with these problems, and there is no excuse for it. However with these yearly titles and the deadlines the developers – both for EA and 2K – are working with, it’s unfortunately become expected that we see these issues. I don’t blame the developers, I blame the folks higher up who set the unrealistic deadlines.

In a perfect world we’d be seeing a release only every 2 years from these titles, but with the amount of cash the companies would be missing out on, that just won’t happen.
TW

EA rarely admits when they even have something to patch. But we don’t get this tabloid like headline when EA announced they weren’t patching NCAA08 for the 360, then decided they were. Why wasn’t there a big EA is unprofessional posting? I would love to like this site and find most of the positive articles great. But this biased is killing this site Pasta. I don’t mind saying 2k f’d this up but play it both ways man.

And to you guys saying this game is unplayable….c’mon. It may have some issues but unplayable is a stretch.
TW

EA rarely admits when they even have something to patch. But we don’t get this tabloid like headline when EA announced they weren’t patching NCAA08 for the 360, then decided they were. Why wasn’t there a big EA is unprofessional posting? I would love to like this site and find most of the positive articles great. But this biased is killing this site Pasta. I don’t mind saying 2k f’d this up but play it both ways man.

And to you guys saying this game is unplayable….c’mon. It may have some issues but unplayable is a stretch.
Groundhog

[quote comment="16998"]EA rarely admits when they even have something to patch. But we don’t get this tabloid like headline when EA announced they weren’t patching NCAA08 for the 360, then decided they were. Why wasn’t there a big EA is unprofessional posting? I would love to like this site and find most of the positive articles great. But this biased is killing this site Pasta. I don’t mind saying 2k f’d this up but play it both ways man.
[/quote]

Well said.

I come to Pasta’s site because he has the latest updates on the major sports titles in one convenient place, whether they be 2K or EA.

However no one could ever accuse Pasta of being “fair” when it comes to EA and 2K. 2K is criticised heavily in *very* unflattering words whenever an issue occurs, while EA is only ever criticised very mildly – if at all – for any of their faults/broken promises/etc.

I’m not faulting Pasta for this because clearly he is pretty tight with EA and I’m sure exclusive interviews and the like would dissapear if he began to call EA out like he does 2K, but it’d be nice if he didn’t even *pretend* to be impartial.
Groundhog

[quote comment="16998"]EA rarely admits when they even have something to patch. But we don’t get this tabloid like headline when EA announced they weren’t patching NCAA08 for the 360, then decided they were. Why wasn’t there a big EA is unprofessional posting? I would love to like this site and find most of the positive articles great. But this biased is killing this site Pasta. I don’t mind saying 2k f’d this up but play it both ways man.
[/quote]

Well said.

I come to Pasta’s site because he has the latest updates on the major sports titles in one convenient place, whether they be 2K or EA.

However no one could ever accuse Pasta of being “fair” when it comes to EA and 2K. 2K is criticised heavily in *very* unflattering words whenever an issue occurs, while EA is only ever criticised very mildly – if at all – for any of their faults/broken promises/etc.

I’m not faulting Pasta for this because clearly he is pretty tight with EA and I’m sure exclusive interviews and the like would dissapear if he began to call EA out like he does 2K, but it’d be nice if he didn’t even *pretend* to be impartial.
pastapadre

Hey, I’ve come to understand that some people are only going to see what they want to see. Despite my harsh criticism of the online play for NCAA and Madden or the non-functioning features of Tiger Woods. EA has never had a problem with communication. The day after the NCAA 360 patch was said to not be coming (which was a surprise that there was a patch even in the first place) I was told they were investigating actually getting it out. And not long after that they gave a timeframe which was actually met.

Ultimately I try to shine light on things that media sites ignore and in the end hopefully it results in a better experience for the community.
pastapadre

Hey, I’ve come to understand that some people are only going to see what they want to see. Despite my harsh criticism of the online play for NCAA and Madden or the non-functioning features of Tiger Woods. EA has never had a problem with communication. The day after the NCAA 360 patch was said to not be coming (which was a surprise that there was a patch even in the first place) I was told they were investigating actually getting it out. And not long after that they gave a timeframe which was actually met.

Ultimately I try to shine light on things that media sites ignore and in the end hopefully it results in a better experience for the community.
Dougy Douglas

The patch is out now, apparently.
Dougy Douglas

The patch is out now, apparently.
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Timothy Daley

[quote comment="16849"]Although I respect you greatly for your fantastic website that has news in a timely and accurate fashion, I believe your disdain for MLB2k8′s style of baseball is part of the reason you are laying into them now. There has been no evidence to believe or disbelieve 2k Sports that Microsoft has the patch and hasn’t released. Until it’s known for sure who’s fault it is, then I don’t see a reason for this article. I visit 2ksports website everyday and have seen many more posters ripping moderators, the game, the website, not only since this patch fiasco has happened but even from day one. Pasta, you’ve made it clear what game you prefer (MLB The Show) and I feel it’s not 2k’s fault that they can’t control when the patch would be released as Sony can do with their own game and own platform.[/quote]

I was one of those posters banned from the 2k site. The moderators are in fact copping an attitude with disgruntled posters and they absolutely have no customer concern what so ever.

Regardless of what game Pasta prefers, that doesn’t take away from what has and is going on over at 2k. They misrepresented a product and they cheated their fans/customers. That is totally irresponsible. 2k has totally lost credibility now and they need to be called to the mat. Just don’t do it on 2k’s forums or you will be banned for life like me. (3 times over)
Timothy Daley

[quote comment="16849"]Although I respect you greatly for your fantastic website that has news in a timely and accurate fashion, I believe your disdain for MLB2k8′s style of baseball is part of the reason you are laying into them now. There has been no evidence to believe or disbelieve 2k Sports that Microsoft has the patch and hasn’t released. Until it’s known for sure who’s fault it is, then I don’t see a reason for this article. I visit 2ksports website everyday and have seen many more posters ripping moderators, the game, the website, not only since this patch fiasco has happened but even from day one. Pasta, you’ve made it clear what game you prefer (MLB The Show) and I feel it’s not 2k’s fault that they can’t control when the patch would be released as Sony can do with their own game and own platform.[/quote]

I was one of those posters banned from the 2k site. The moderators are in fact copping an attitude with disgruntled posters and they absolutely have no customer concern what so ever.

Regardless of what game Pasta prefers, that doesn’t take away from what has and is going on over at 2k. They misrepresented a product and they cheated their fans/customers. That is totally irresponsible. 2k has totally lost credibility now and they need to be called to the mat. Just don’t do it on 2k’s forums or you will be banned for life like me. (3 times over)
Anonymous

[quote comment="17007"]Hey, I’ve come to understand that some people are only going to see what they want to see. Despite my harsh criticism of the online play for NCAA and Madden or the non-functioning features of Tiger Woods. EA has never had a problem with communication. The day after the NCAA 360 patch was said to not be coming (which was a surprise that there was a patch even in the first place) I was told they were investigating actually getting it out. And not long after that they gave a timeframe which was actually met.

Ultimately I try to shine light on things that media sites ignore and in the end hopefully it results in a better experience for the community.[/quote]

I’ve never seen “I’m a fanboy” written in so many words
mugginns

[quote comment="17007"]Hey, I’ve come to understand that some people are only going to see what they want to see. Despite my harsh criticism of the online play for NCAA and Madden or the non-functioning features of Tiger Woods. EA has never had a problem with communication. The day after the NCAA 360 patch was said to not be coming (which was a surprise that there was a patch even in the first place) I was told they were investigating actually getting it out. And not long after that they gave a timeframe which was actually met.

Ultimately I try to shine light on things that media sites ignore and in the end hopefully it results in a better experience for the community.[/quote]

I’ve never seen “I’m a fanboy” written in so many words
pastapadre

[quote comment="17034"][quote comment="17007"]Hey, I’ve come to understand that some people are only going to see what they want to see. Despite my harsh criticism of the online play for NCAA and Madden or the non-functioning features of Tiger Woods. EA has never had a problem with communication. The day after the NCAA 360 patch was said to not be coming (which was a surprise that there was a patch even in the first place) I was told they were investigating actually getting it out. And not long after that they gave a timeframe which was actually met.

Ultimately I try to shine light on things that media sites ignore and in the end hopefully it results in a better experience for the community.[/quote]

I’ve never seen “I’m a fanboy” written in so many words[/quote]

ha…thanks for proving my point
pastapadre

[quote comment="17034"][quote comment="17007"]Hey, I’ve come to understand that some people are only going to see what they want to see. Despite my harsh criticism of the online play for NCAA and Madden or the non-functioning features of Tiger Woods. EA has never had a problem with communication. The day after the NCAA 360 patch was said to not be coming (which was a surprise that there was a patch even in the first place) I was told they were investigating actually getting it out. And not long after that they gave a timeframe which was actually met.

Ultimately I try to shine light on things that media sites ignore and in the end hopefully it results in a better experience for the community.[/quote]

I’ve never seen “I’m a fanboy” written in so many words[/quote]

ha…thanks for proving my point
Sidewinder

These are black and white issues people. If you are a 2k fanboy because you dont have a PS3 and cant play The Show, that is a lousy place to be. But, dont blame Pasta or anyone else that is enlightened because they have played both games and have both the 360 and PS3.

These two games are polar opposites this year. One is possibly the best baseball video game yet in my 25 years of gaming, and one is struggling to just be playable.

If you guys dont get that, then that is on you. Go look in the mirror and check yourself. Or go get a PS3 and The Show 08 and become enlightened.

No brainer here people. The more you stand up for your lost investment in 2k8, the sillier you look for the people in the know.

Forget about EA and whatever else you 2k fanboys are trying to state here. This is about two baseball games. One done perfectly and one done very poorly. Wake up!
Sidewinder

These are black and white issues people. If you are a 2k fanboy because you dont have a PS3 and cant play The Show, that is a lousy place to be. But, dont blame Pasta or anyone else that is enlightened because they have played both games and have both the 360 and PS3.

These two games are polar opposites this year. One is possibly the best baseball video game yet in my 25 years of gaming, and one is struggling to just be playable.

If you guys dont get that, then that is on you. Go look in the mirror and check yourself. Or go get a PS3 and The Show 08 and become enlightened.

No brainer here people. The more you stand up for your lost investment in 2k8, the sillier you look for the people in the know.

Forget about EA and whatever else you 2k fanboys are trying to state here. This is about two baseball games. One done perfectly and one done very poorly. Wake up!
DLaren

[quote comment="16959"]Shoot I wouldnt put it past Microsoft and EA (the makers of COD) to have done this intentionally. This is big business and EA has very very much to gain by the Failure of 2k la. Like their own MLB title next year if they damage them enough. I might have my tin foil hat on , but I would bet money that EA is behind this delay and microsoft behind latency.[/quote]

Hmmm…Took longer than I thought it would for someone to somehow blame this mess on EA.

You guys are slipping…
DLaren

[quote comment="16959"]Shoot I wouldnt put it past Microsoft and EA (the makers of COD) to have done this intentionally. This is big business and EA has very very much to gain by the Failure of 2k la. Like their own MLB title next year if they damage them enough. I might have my tin foil hat on , but I would bet money that EA is behind this delay and microsoft behind latency.[/quote]

Hmmm…Took longer than I thought it would for someone to somehow blame this mess on EA.

You guys are slipping…
Anonymous

[quote comment="17103"]These are black and white issues people. If you are a 2k fanboy because you dont have a PS3 and cant play The Show, that is a lousy place to be. But, dont blame Pasta or anyone else that is enlightened because they have played both games and have both the 360 and PS3.

These two games are polar opposites this year. One is possibly the best baseball video game yet in my 25 years of gaming, and one is struggling to just be playable.

If you guys dont get that, then that is on you. Go look in the mirror and check yourself. Or go get a PS3 and The Show 08 and become enlightened.

No brainer here people. The more you stand up for your lost investment in 2k8, the sillier you look for the people in the know.

Forget about EA and whatever else you 2k fanboys are trying to state here. This is about two baseball games. One done perfectly and one done very poorly. Wake up![/quote]

You need to go back and re-read everything. That isn’t the point. The point is, PastaPadre only calls out 2k when they do badly. EASports had a clusterfu*k with the NCAA08 release, and they didn’t get called out.
Mugginns

[quote comment="17103"]These are black and white issues people. If you are a 2k fanboy because you dont have a PS3 and cant play The Show, that is a lousy place to be. But, dont blame Pasta or anyone else that is enlightened because they have played both games and have both the 360 and PS3.

These two games are polar opposites this year. One is possibly the best baseball video game yet in my 25 years of gaming, and one is struggling to just be playable.

If you guys dont get that, then that is on you. Go look in the mirror and check yourself. Or go get a PS3 and The Show 08 and become enlightened.

No brainer here people. The more you stand up for your lost investment in 2k8, the sillier you look for the people in the know.

Forget about EA and whatever else you 2k fanboys are trying to state here. This is about two baseball games. One done perfectly and one done very poorly. Wake up![/quote]

You need to go back and re-read everything. That isn’t the point. The point is, PastaPadre only calls out 2k when they do badly. EASports had a clusterfu*k with the NCAA08 release, and they didn’t get called out.
Sidewinder

No, that is the point and the subject of this thread. You want to bring some other BS in here that doesnt belong, take a hike. 2k dropped the ball period. I am sure they had their reasons for it with all that is happening in the 2k world. But that doesnt excuse their lack of PR and the broken product they put out. So, let’s call a spade a spade. That is what Pasta did in this case. I dont care about what happened before this. 2k is the subject.

Let’s stay focused people.
Sidewinder

No, that is the point and the subject of this thread. You want to bring some other BS in here that doesnt belong, take a hike. 2k dropped the ball period. I am sure they had their reasons for it with all that is happening in the 2k world. But that doesnt excuse their lack of PR and the broken product they put out. So, let’s call a spade a spade. That is what Pasta did in this case. I dont care about what happened before this. 2k is the subject.

Let’s stay focused people.
Justme

2k released a game that was buggy. Threads are being deleted becuase people are acting like retards and are not following the rules the 2k guy has laid out. There is a thread for people to post on the problems. He doesnt need 984 posts of the same thread. Its hard to filter through other posts.

Muggins is right. Pasta is known all over the internet as being a big EA homer, thats nothing new. He needs to write an article and show he really has balls and tell EA to make a football game thats worth a damn. I dont care for EA, but they did make a good game in Fifa 08. Outside of that, nothing but crap.
http://Whateveryouwant Justme

2k released a game that was buggy. Threads are being deleted becuase people are acting like retards and are not following the rules the 2k guy has laid out. There is a thread for people to post on the problems. He doesnt need 984 posts of the same thread. Its hard to filter through other posts.

Muggins is right. Pasta is known all over the internet as being a big EA homer, thats nothing new. He needs to write an article and show he really has balls and tell EA to make a football game thats worth a damn. I dont care for EA, but they did make a good game in Fifa 08. Outside of that, nothing but crap.
Sidewinder

EA made solid strides last year on the 360 with NHL 08, FIFA 08 and Madden 08. Madden was the first version I had liked on the 360. That is pretty much the global opinion, too.

Even NBA Live 08 was a much better game than the year before. 2k’s game was better though. NHL 08 was a new standard in hockey after putting out a crap AI with the new controls in 07. 2K dropped the ball with their new control scheme in NHL 2k8. Not intuitive at all.

Of course we already know the crap MLB 2k8 is compared to The Show 08, with its laggy framerate on a game that demands smoothness due to its new controls. Yes, the patch helped but you dont know smooth and sim until you have played The Show 08. 2k8 is a pure arcade game with no sim whatsoever. The Show is sim, baby.

EA dropped the ball with Tiger Woods 08 with little improvement after a solid 07. But basically, the 08 games were the first REAL successes for them on the 360.

Let’s face it, EA has done a much better game with their exclusive license than 2k has.
Sidewinder

EA made solid strides last year on the 360 with NHL 08, FIFA 08 and Madden 08. Madden was the first version I had liked on the 360. That is pretty much the global opinion, too.

Even NBA Live 08 was a much better game than the year before. 2k’s game was better though. NHL 08 was a new standard in hockey after putting out a crap AI with the new controls in 07. 2K dropped the ball with their new control scheme in NHL 2k8. Not intuitive at all.

Of course we already know the crap MLB 2k8 is compared to The Show 08, with its laggy framerate on a game that demands smoothness due to its new controls. Yes, the patch helped but you dont know smooth and sim until you have played The Show 08. 2k8 is a pure arcade game with no sim whatsoever. The Show is sim, baby.

EA dropped the ball with Tiger Woods 08 with little improvement after a solid 07. But basically, the 08 games were the first REAL successes for them on the 360.

Let’s face it, EA has done a much better game with their exclusive license than 2k has.
Ryan

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I dont care for EA, but they did make a good game in Fifa 08. Outside of that, nothing but crap.[/quote]

Nothing but crap? Madden 08 was crap? EA has not had crap games in the area they focus on, the NFL. Madden 08 was a quality game and I’ll bet that better than 75% of the people who bought the game would agree. Also it sounds like you are making excuses for 2K and being a 2K homer. “2K released a game that was buggy”….ARE YOU KIDDING??? 2K released this game with the knowledge that is was UNPLAYABLE for real baseball fans. Now that the patch is out it is much better, quite fun actaully in my mind. However, that does not excuse 2K for lying to us about the patch release date, and still lying to us about the roster updates, opening day my ass. I think you need to post a comment that shows you have real balls.
Ryan

[quote comment="17251"]
I dont care for EA, but they did make a good game in Fifa 08. Outside of that, nothing but crap.[/quote]

Nothing but crap? Madden 08 was crap? EA has not had crap games in the area they focus on, the NFL. Madden 08 was a quality game and I’ll bet that better than 75% of the people who bought the game would agree. Also it sounds like you are making excuses for 2K and being a 2K homer. “2K released a game that was buggy”….ARE YOU KIDDING??? 2K released this game with the knowledge that is was UNPLAYABLE for real baseball fans. Now that the patch is out it is much better, quite fun actaully in my mind. However, that does not excuse 2K for lying to us about the patch release date, and still lying to us about the roster updates, opening day my ass. I think you need to post a comment that shows you have real balls.
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