Madden 09 online play gets first piece of disappointing news

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Posted April 22nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm

Madden 09 producer Phil Frazier is continuing to answer questions in the game’s official forum. The most notable piece of info to come out since the set of news I posted on earlier is that variable weather will not be found online. Hearing that doesn’t bring about much confidence that other much needed online enhancements will be coming this year.

Weather will not be available online. It’s clear that many of you are interested in this functionality so it’s already on my growing list of features from the community. Honestly, I’d prefer if we solved the online lag issues before we worry about weather. We will be featuring the live weather feed in Madden 09.

Well so much for the hope that online play was going to be taken seriously for once. That great looking screenshot from the other day? You’ll never experience it in an online game. Seems unlikely then that even night games will be in then. It would also mean that online franchise (if added this year) would have no weather or night games which would ruin part of that whole experience. Get ready for a bunch of stale ideal weather games yet again if you play online at all.

Granted it seems to be asking a bit much for these necessary options to be added when they haven’t even gotten the game to run lag-free or avoid high rates of disconnects yet. However EA Canada’s recent releases (NBA Live, NHL, FIFA) have brought about vastly improved online performance along with added modes and options. Will depth charts transfer online so people don’t have to set them before every game? Will you be able to choose the stadium that is played in? Will alternate uniforms be selectable? Will unranked games be tracked at all? Will there be any form of co-op play? All seem even more unlikely after hearing that variable weather hasn’t made it in this year. Disappointing to say the least.

Hey, but field goal nets have been added to the game (thankfully) so now that one can be scratched off the easy complaint list.

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  • frank

    good online games suck anyways.. they need to concentrate on the core of the game.

  • frank

    good online games suck anyways.. they need to concentrate on the core of the game.

  • Ryan

    Noooooooooooooo! That needless to say sucks. Don’t really think I have anything else to add but…dammit.

  • Ryan

    Noooooooooooooo! That needless to say sucks. Don’t really think I have anything else to add but…dammit.

  • afrodamus

    This is not a suprise…Tiburon online programmers suck and should be fired…Plain and simple…I mean 4-5 years into next gen and we are worrying abut online LAG…when we all have optimized HIGH FRICKIN SPEED INTERNET???….Are these fools serious???

    Here’s what you can expect:

    1. Lots o Hype
    2. Old features being re-introduced as if they were new
    3. Terrible online play
    4. Half ass online leagues
    5. Garbage franchise mode that will be bug ridden
    6. Record Sales of Madden 09
    7. Promises about Madden 2010

  • afrodamus

    This is not a suprise…Tiburon online programmers suck and should be fired…Plain and simple…I mean 4-5 years into next gen and we are worrying abut online LAG…when we all have optimized HIGH FRICKIN SPEED INTERNET???….Are these fools serious???

    Here’s what you can expect:

    1. Lots o Hype
    2. Old features being re-introduced as if they were new
    3. Terrible online play
    4. Half ass online leagues
    5. Garbage franchise mode that will be bug ridden
    6. Record Sales of Madden 09
    7. Promises about Madden 2010

  • afrodamus

    [quote comment="18529"]good online games suck anyways.. they need to concentrate on the core of the game.[/quote]

    Its narrow minded thinking like this that alllows EA to get away with this sort of failure to innovate. hell weather online aint even innovative…It should be a STANDARD FEATURE…Tiburon’s online programmers are incompetent

  • afrodamus

    [quote comment="18529"]good online games suck anyways.. they need to concentrate on the core of the game.[/quote]

    Its narrow minded thinking like this that alllows EA to get away with this sort of failure to innovate. hell weather online aint even innovative…It should be a STANDARD FEATURE…Tiburon’s online programmers are incompetent

  • darkheath

    They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.

  • darkheath

    They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.

  • darkheath

    That said… I do remember some of the older NFL 2k games having weather effects online. ;-)

  • darkheath

    That said… I do remember some of the older NFL 2k games having weather effects online. ;-)

  • pastapadre

    [quote comment="18533"]They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.[/quote]

    They were “working” on lag last year too and that didn’t turn out well at all. I just look at those EA Canada titles that went from laggy online to smooth online while also adding things like online team play all in the same year.

  • pastapadre

    [quote comment="18533"]They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.[/quote]

    They were “working” on lag last year too and that didn’t turn out well at all. I just look at those EA Canada titles that went from laggy online to smooth online while also adding things like online team play all in the same year.

  • Mighty Boom

    @ Afrodomus

    Well said.

  • Mighty Boom

    @ Afrodomus

    Well said.

  • Groundhog

    [quote comment="18533"]They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.[/quote]

    I’ve played online games where two sixteen man teams are battling it out with guns and rockets in howling rain, and this was many, many years ago.

    As end users we don’t want to hear excuses about why it can’t be done. We want to see it done – especially given how many version of this game we’ve seen on next gen.

    Man, just make the weather effects run locally on the console – as long as the conditions are set to wet/snow/etc. and the wind is the same for both sides, how could it possibly effect the lag at all? Makes no sense to me.

  • Groundhog

    [quote comment="18533"]They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.[/quote]

    I’ve played online games where two sixteen man teams are battling it out with guns and rockets in howling rain, and this was many, many years ago.

    As end users we don’t want to hear excuses about why it can’t be done. We want to see it done – especially given how many version of this game we’ve seen on next gen.

    Man, just make the weather effects run locally on the console – as long as the conditions are set to wet/snow/etc. and the wind is the same for both sides, how could it possibly effect the lag at all? Makes no sense to me.

  • Juan Pablo

    [quote comment="18533"]They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.[/quote]
    But it’s not unreasonable to expect them to focus on more then just one aspect of online. To repeat what Pasta said, if EA Canada can work on multiple online features for there titles then why can’t Tiburon, who have plenty of resources at there disposal, do the same? Low expectations and just accepting what we get year after year is why we got 3 have assed Maddens after the transition to next-gen.

  • 47

    [quote comment="18531"]This is not a suprise…Tiburon online programmers suck and should be fired…Plain and simple…I mean 4-5 years into next gen and we are worrying abut online LAG…when we all have optimized HIGH FRICKIN SPEED INTERNET???….Are these fools serious???

    Here’s what you can expect:

    1. Lots o Hype
    2. Old features being re-introduced as if they were new
    3. Terrible online play
    4. Half ass online leagues
    5. Garbage franchise mode that will be bug ridden
    6. Record Sales of Madden 09
    7. Promises about Madden 2010[/quote]

    Yep i agree 100%, its been this way for now, what, 3 years running??

  • Juan Pablo

    [quote comment="18533"]They are working on lag. What the hell good is having snow falling on two connected computers if it’s so laggy that you see individual snow flakes. I wouldn’t necessarily consider this “disappointing” news. They’ve got to get the game to work well in bright sunlight before worrying about snow accumulation and puddles in the field.

    Not that I’m anxious to dive into the Madden cheese-hordes online anyway.[/quote]
    But it’s not unreasonable to expect them to focus on more then just one aspect of online. To repeat what Pasta said, if EA Canada can work on multiple online features for there titles then why can’t Tiburon, who have plenty of resources at there disposal, do the same? Low expectations and just accepting what we get year after year is why we got 3 have assed Maddens after the transition to next-gen.

  • 47

    [quote comment="18531"]This is not a suprise…Tiburon online programmers suck and should be fired…Plain and simple…I mean 4-5 years into next gen and we are worrying abut online LAG…when we all have optimized HIGH FRICKIN SPEED INTERNET???….Are these fools serious???

    Here’s what you can expect:

    1. Lots o Hype
    2. Old features being re-introduced as if they were new
    3. Terrible online play
    4. Half ass online leagues
    5. Garbage franchise mode that will be bug ridden
    6. Record Sales of Madden 09
    7. Promises about Madden 2010[/quote]

    Yep i agree 100%, its been this way for now, what, 3 years running??

  • Details

    Pathetic.

    What’s the point of releasing news about variable weather if it doesn’t carry over to online play? Does EA understand the vast online world that exists?

    “Honestly, I’d prefer if we solved the online lag issues before we worry about weather.”

    How about do BOTH? It’s 2008. How many people do you need working on the game? Worry about weather? I want everyone to think about that statement when they’re playing GTA IV.

    In the fantasy land of online Madden, it’s always sunny. Great. So much for recreating the NFC Championship game.

    Pasta, you’ve done a great job expressing the community’s collective disappointment. EA just doesn’t get it. I was really starting to get excited about Madden 09. The game isn’t even out yet, and we’re already talking about next year.

    Pathetic, EA. Really pathetic. Your passion for the game is overwhelming.

  • Details

    Pathetic.

    What’s the point of releasing news about variable weather if it doesn’t carry over to online play? Does EA understand the vast online world that exists?

    “Honestly, I’d prefer if we solved the online lag issues before we worry about weather.”

    How about do BOTH? It’s 2008. How many people do you need working on the game? Worry about weather? I want everyone to think about that statement when they’re playing GTA IV.

    In the fantasy land of online Madden, it’s always sunny. Great. So much for recreating the NFC Championship game.

    Pasta, you’ve done a great job expressing the community’s collective disappointment. EA just doesn’t get it. I was really starting to get excited about Madden 09. The game isn’t even out yet, and we’re already talking about next year.

    Pathetic, EA. Really pathetic. Your passion for the game is overwhelming.

  • deltroy

    Damn this one hurt I really thought we would have a great game online this year, guess there goes online franchise !!!!

  • deltroy

    Damn this one hurt I really thought we would have a great game online this year, guess there goes online franchise !!!!

  • chris

    Even though I never really played online much, that is rather lame. For EA’s sake, the rest of the game better be ON POINT this year. Franchise mode needs to be top notch for guys like me.

    Ha, FG nets!

  • chris

    Even though I never really played online much, that is rather lame. For EA’s sake, the rest of the game better be ON POINT this year. Franchise mode needs to be top notch for guys like me.

    Ha, FG nets!

  • Jonathon

    lack of weather online is NOT as big as a problem as you are all making it out to be…because with poor weather comes additional turnovers in games…namely fumbles in games and dropped passes…and then bums will start quitting games and blaming their losses on the weather…then they will beg you for a rematch in clear weather…where you put a whoopin’ on them again and then they have to quit another time…weather is clearly the last thing on my mind when i am playing online…

  • Jonathon

    lack of weather online is NOT as big as a problem as you are all making it out to be…because with poor weather comes additional turnovers in games…namely fumbles in games and dropped passes…and then bums will start quitting games and blaming their losses on the weather…then they will beg you for a rematch in clear weather…where you put a whoopin’ on them again and then they have to quit another time…weather is clearly the last thing on my mind when i am playing online…

  • Smoky Bacon Potato Crisps Prin

    hate to bring alot of the “maddenites” back down to earth who blindly ran out and pre-owned this thing. but there will be “alot” more “dissapointments” comin your way. be a smart consumer people rent before you buy…you’ll thank me later.

  • Smoky Bacon Potato Crisps Pringles

    hate to bring alot of the “maddenites” back down to earth who blindly ran out and pre-owned this thing. but there will be “alot” more “dissapointments” comin your way. be a smart consumer people rent before you buy…you’ll thank me later.

  • Smoky Bacon Potato Crisps Prin

    oh and april 28th grand theft auto IV is comin out get a quality game for once.

  • Smoky Bacon Potato Crisps Pringles

    oh and april 28th grand theft auto IV is comin out get a quality game for once.

  • Darren

    Ok this shouldnt even be hard to program in. Its like them saying were working on lag so we cant let you choose alternate jerseys online…which I dont remember being able to do last year.

    EA=hype and false promises!

  • Darren

    Ok this shouldnt even be hard to program in. Its like them saying were working on lag so we cant let you choose alternate jerseys online…which I dont remember being able to do last year.

    EA=hype and false promises!

  • Daboss1026

    For everyone who rips Pasta for being paid by EA to post things….how about this post? Yeah, shutup! Pasta speaks the truth and when something negative needs to be said about EA – He will say it.

  • Daboss1026

    For everyone who rips Pasta for being paid by EA to post things….how about this post? Yeah, shutup! Pasta speaks the truth and when something negative needs to be said about EA – He will say it.

  • Da Birthday Boy

    Madden will have the ability to save replays this year though

  • Da Birthday Boy

    Madden will have the ability to save replays this year though

  • regy

    I only play online! I hate that EVERY SINGLE game online is a sunny day game w/no wind!!! Gets boring w/no variety. Why can’t they even add 4vs4 UNranked games? Are they that ignorant over there? It’s funny that features of NFL2k5 on xbox are still too much of a hill to climb for Madden on the 360!!!!!!! I’m praying that they at least allow for online uniform variety…

    …F’in EA! :(

  • regy

    I only play online! I hate that EVERY SINGLE game online is a sunny day game w/no wind!!! Gets boring w/no variety. Why can’t they even add 4vs4 UNranked games? Are they that ignorant over there? It’s funny that features of NFL2k5 on xbox are still too much of a hill to climb for Madden on the 360!!!!!!! I’m praying that they at least allow for online uniform variety…

    …F’in EA! :(

  • John

    As much as a dissapointment this is, as long as the get the core experience running smoothly online, then next year they can build and start experimenting. ESPN 2k5 was an awesome game, and they had a million features online, because online was good the previous year. (But that was four years ago, and on a current-gen system, so Madden is SOOOOOO far behind the 8 ball)

  • John

    As much as a dissapointment this is, as long as the get the core experience running smoothly online, then next year they can build and start experimenting. ESPN 2k5 was an awesome game, and they had a million features online, because online was good the previous year. (But that was four years ago, and on a current-gen system, so Madden is SOOOOOO far behind the 8 ball)

  • Seneca

    other than halo madden gets a massive amount of people online at one time so if fixing lag is priority number 1 it better be good i can wait for weather games online once that’s fixed, but i must say i played a game last night and had no lag

  • Seneca

    other than halo madden gets a massive amount of people online at one time so if fixing lag is priority number 1 it better be good i can wait for weather games online once that’s fixed, but i must say i played a game last night and had no lag

  • hen_roc

    I can’t believe that the first screen shot is of a snow game and then they formally announce that it will be eliminated from 1/2 of the game.

    Let’s face it online play is a huge part of the Madden base.

    Why go out of their way to release a picture that most of us will never see?

  • hen_roc

    I can’t believe that the first screen shot is of a snow game and then they formally announce that it will be eliminated from 1/2 of the game.

    Let’s face it online play is a huge part of the Madden base.

    Why go out of their way to release a picture that most of us will never see?

  • hen_roc

    For me, game play needs to be vastly improved to make up for this issue.

  • hen_roc

    For me, game play needs to be vastly improved to make up for this issue.

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