Madden 09 tackling blog and video

[quote comment="21223"][quote comment="21221"]i dont mean to nitpick here. and i have confidence this game will be good but…. i only saw maybe 5 new tackle animations in the video. and saw in the video alone alot of the same tackles repeated many many times. also i didnt notice any gang tackling.. maybe i just missed them. i dont know.. it was an alright video but i think it left more questions then answers as to what they were trying to do.[/quote]

I know what you’re saying. I saw some of the tackles and thought back to how they were already common in the game. In a way I thought the video was too flashy to really be able to focus on what was being talked about in the blog, unlike last year where the blog videos were just the raw footage. Graphics look great, player interaction much better, and player control as you can see some of those RB moves that felt really good in NCAA 09.[/quote]

I think both you guys need your head examined. LOL

Remember: Its a video game. What do you guys want? This is fantastic and we all should truly appreciate the effort that is going into this anniversary edition. Ya know, no one complained about Madden in the PS1 days. Now that technology has vastly improved player expectations are unrealistic. No matter how much you nitpick or complain, or act disappointed a video game will never truly emulate real life. What I saw in that video was about as close as you can get to a real looking football game and I am totally pleased.

[quote comment="21274"]It is the same game we have been playing for 8 years now, with the same bugs and less features than we had 4 years ago. It just looks nicer, which I think hurts the game to a degree, as it shows of some of the flaws easier.

Anyone else feel this way?[/quote]

Yes and no.

I’ve only really been playing Madden for four years since 2K lost the license. Once upon a time, NFL 2K5 ruled the universe, and Madden might as well not have existed. I doubt I would have EVER returned to the franchise if other companies still had the NFL license.

But here I am.

I expected a lot when Madden 06 hit the 360, hyped by the incredible and misleading commercial, but that title turned out to be a bare bones letdown. It seemed rushed, though, so surely Madden 07 would correct all the issues and offer the most amazing football game ever. Except that didn’t happen. Then I bought into the 08 hype that EA was focused on gameplay, only to watch each game result in 25 turnovers.

But here I am again.

It’s the only NFL game, so we have to keep the community alive with suggestions and feedback, even if it means begging EA to add simple features that should have been in the game years ago.

I would rather see passing fixed than deal with “weapons.” I would rather see details added on the field and not to the exterior of the stadium. But I understand that EA has to please everyone, and that is apparently impossible.

Once upon a time, there was a simple choice to avoid Madden altogether. That choice no longer exists due to a very poor decision by the NFL. It’s a shame.

That said, Madden 09 looks like EA is actually trying to offer a better product, not just features like bench-pressing. It would’ve been nice if they tried sooner, but oh well. Let’s make the best of it and keep offering feedback so we can play a great NFL game.

At first I thought the video looked great. Watch it again. No gang tackling. No 2 on 1 tackling. It looks like once the ball carrier is engaged with a defender the AI stands still or bounces off of the 2 players that have collided. One of the shots even shows something very similar to the explosion effect. If real time physics have been added I would hope to see this with multiple collisions on one tackle. Unfortunately I don’t see it. I know it is early still, so hopefully this will get worked out.

Late-

[quote comment="21301"]I know it is early still, so hopefully this will get worked out.[/quote]

I wouldn’t say it’s early by any means. The producer said they’re multiple weeks away from completion. That’s a bit of time, but certainly not early.

I love it when people see some minute little detail about socks or shoes not being 100% accurate, and then saying that they’re not gonna buy the game! -LOL …I’ll still see you at EB @ midnight on the 11th awgot!!!

[quote comment="21307"]I love it when people see some minute little detail about socks or shoes not being 100% accurate, and then saying that they’re not gonna buy the game! -LOL …I’ll still see you at EB @ midnight on the 11th awgot!!![/quote]

People complain about uniforms being inaccurate because the NFL gives EA a style guide to follow for every single team in the NFL. It lists every combination of uniforms and every detail of the uniforms.

EA brags that the exclusive deal with the NFL allows them access to stuff that they have never had before and a chance to bring an unprecented level of realisim.

Then EA releases a game with inaccurate uniforms, in some cases with the same mistakes that have been there for years, showing their lack of effort. The laziness associated with that is what makes people mad.

Is it dumb to not by Madden because some socks are wrong? To me yes, but to others I guess not. The point is that people have been asking EA to fix something that is simple and that they have the BEST reference for and they don’t do it.

It is just another in the numerous examples of the community and customers being ignored by EA in relation to Madden.

[quote comment="21307"]I love it when people see some minute little detail about socks or shoes not being 100% accurate, and then saying that they’re not gonna buy the game! -LOL …I’ll still see you at EB @ midnight on the 11th awgot!!![/quote]

well sheep let the mass feed you and show you into medocrity like your use to..because im not..actually im not buying it before i see what it brings to the table.i want quality..now people like you and the rest of the bahh here who already payed almost 100 bucks on two of the same games issued every single year see no issue with that but. after i sent pictures and personally talked to EA myself.they still mess up the little stuff really makes me question the quality or educational level of comprehension to just do something right. go back to sleep its all ok…spend your money everyone.. heres a new feature forget that the browns have BROWN PANTS forget the fact that 49ers shoes are white when they are supposed to be black. WHaT? no nets for field goal post forget that its about gameplay..go back to sleep sheep…its all ok..go back to sleep sheep its all ok… quality does not matter we dont like people who point out what is supposed to be done.

[quote comment="21302"]I just don’t understand this love of the NFL so much that you even NOTICE if a team’s socks are too short. Holy hell. I’d be perfectly fine with a totally generic game based on 2k8 with total customization. Heck… that been a dream of mine for almost 30 years back when I used to create my own teams in Statis-Pro football. (If you don’t know what I’m talking about, this site should explain it for you: http://www.bombersgolf.com/StatisPro/FootBall/home.html )

That said.. and I haven’t seen this video, it does look like they are putting more effort into this game. It’s the first time I’ve even been interested in what was going on Madden-wise (I haven’t bought a new copy of Madden since… hell, 2001 for the PC).

Anyway.. for those of you so interested in socks and shoes… you obviously don’t have as much love of the GAME of football as you do paper dolls and fashion.

There… I said it.[/quote]

Darkheath ive said it on 2k and ill say it here infact ive said it everywhere.. IT’s ALL ABOUT QUALITY. some like it? others settle for less..its called you either do it all right or do it none at all..now if some people like a half assed game sent out by people who went to college and are money smart? then i want the game that way..say what you will but people who love to settle for less eeks me..frankly because it should not BE that way…

not a sermon just a thought.

Why EA? Why? The 49ers played every single game last year with black shoes and they will continue with them, why can you add Dancing With the Stars mode after you score a TD but cant get my Niners uniforms right? Please oh please explain.

Pasta if you could please let some representive at EA know that the Niners wear black shoes, thanks!

The player models, the stadium grass and the movements look sweet. Also, the canned animations appear to be non-existent…..

Wow a lot of whiny babies here today and a Super Spammer{5$ Dollar Foot Long}

[quote comment="21328"][quote comment="21327"]Wow a lot of whiny babies here today and a Super Spammer{5$ Dollar Foot Long}[/quote]

hey i’m just tellin it like it is…and its the truth..funny how mlb 2k8 got slaughtered on here and no one stopped and gave that game a chance and said its just a game but yet when madden 09 shows glitz and glammer here and there everyone jumps on you and the community tries to burn you at the stake.. I want a valuable reason why Madden 09 will be good and when i see something slacking it gets at me..because even though its a game..there is still room for improvment..whether or not the masses settle for less..[/quote]

Because you always throw that Madden Sheep analogy around for every post you type. People will buy what they want to buy no matter how crappy another person tells them the game is because it’s their choice. But I like MLB2K8 over the other game though but like I said it’s just my preference like all the other people here.

Hey it looks great and all but what madden really needs is a new look these same player models moving in a new way isnt all that exciting hey if you squint your eyes madden looks real but it looks like last year but a lil smoother an example of how much it improved is like you playn ps2 version of madden then go to your friends house and play the xbox version you notice how polished it looks thats all this seem like to me i think to bring the spark back is to redo the models. I know im the millionth person to say this but ea really has to add the espn presentation cause the sprint halftime show is garbage you have to randomly look through the highlights i feel like they changed that but i doubt it and what up with ea being so secretive with the information i mean they carry the nfl license so its not like they have competition all pro and back breaker combined wont beat out madden sales lets just be real so they really need to drop that blockbuster feature on us and stop with the crap new camera angle thingy as a feature you wait on for an entire week i was so disappointed when i saw that say something like there will be a nfl draft show with mel kiper jr not junk like return field goals and weather and a wider camera angle that is freakn weak ea used to be the truth and people use to not complain that much with features like owner mode and hit stick and playmaker on the run fan creator training camp during franchise now we have DRUM ROLL PLEASE A GREAT SNOW STORM OH AND CLEAR VISORS!!!!

Hey Pasta, Ian Cummings is answering a lot of questions over at the official forums in response to this video and a lot of things beyond that. He talks about a lot of things they’ve worked on and lot of things that we could see in the future.

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=365211&tstart=0

Dear EASports Football Development Teams,

I have watched all of the videos of the upcoming game Madden 09, as well as looked at all the photos that that are available. I have noticed a common theme. The player models have not been improved for the past 3 years of next-generation Madden games. QBs, Halfbacks, Defensive-backs, Wide Receivers are all either the same size or larger than the defensive-linemen that are in these games. I watch football religiously. I have also played football on a college level and this is just one of the many things that bother me about Madden and NCAA Football Video games. EA claim is that “IF IT”S IN THE GAME, its IN THE GAME.” This is a bunch of bull. Wide receivers, Defensive Backs, etc should not be as big are bigger than Defensive Linemen. Get rid of the “Shaking Pursuit Camera” and spend more time on player models and game play problems. Who’s ever idea it was to change the play selection screen to a one play selection needs to be fired. If the average person did something that idiotic, they would be searching for work in another country. Not at EA. That is enough of my ranting for now. The people that this is for will probably never see this, or read it anyway. Please EASports, fix these problems.

Why isn’t fair-play in the game? Why does EA insist on taking away features that no one in the forum complains about?