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		<title>By: jaed</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-31170</link>
		<dc:creator>jaed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>besides graphics, whats different between ps2 and xbox360</description>
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		<title>By: the n9n3rs</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-22030</link>
		<dc:creator>the n9n3rs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t fair-play in the game?  Why does EA insist on taking away features that no one in the forum complains about?</description>
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		<title>By: zhawk18</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-21516</link>
		<dc:creator>zhawk18</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Since EA’s relationship with ESPN and the NFL allows them to provide streamed audio and video directly from ESPN and the NFL, there will be ESPN and NFL content like NFL Total Access, SportsCenter highlights, PTI Segments, etc.&quot;

Pardon the Interuption, Total Access, and SportsCenter highlights? It starting to look like there will be a pre-game, half-time and post-game show including Berman and possibly Madden. [i got this info from:]

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_NFL_09</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since EA’s relationship with ESPN and the NFL allows them to provide streamed audio and video directly from ESPN and the NFL, there will be ESPN and NFL content like NFL Total Access, SportsCenter highlights, PTI Segments, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pardon the Interuption, Total Access, and SportsCenter highlights? It starting to look like there will be a pre-game, half-time and post-game show including Berman and possibly Madden. [i got this info from:]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_NFL_09" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_NFL_09</a></p>
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		<title>By: lwilkins</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-21425</link>
		<dc:creator>lwilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear EASports Football Development Teams,
	
I have watched all of the videos of the upcoming game Madden 09, as well as looked at all the photos that that are available. I have noticed a common theme. The player models have not been improved for the past 3 years of next-generation Madden games. QBs, Halfbacks, Defensive-backs, Wide Receivers are all either the same size or larger than the defensive-linemen that are in these games. I watch football religiously. I have also played football on a college level and this is just one of the many things that bother me about Madden and NCAA Football Video games. EA claim is that “IF IT”S IN THE GAME, its IN THE GAME.” This is a bunch of bull. Wide receivers, Defensive Backs, etc should not be as big are bigger than Defensive Linemen. Get rid of the “Shaking Pursuit Camera” and spend more time on player models and game play problems. Who’s ever idea it was to change the play selection screen to a one play selection needs to be fired. If the average person did something that idiotic, they would be searching for work in another country. Not at EA. That is enough of my ranting for now. The people that this is for will probably never see this, or read it anyway. Please EASports, fix these problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear EASports Football Development Teams,</p>
<p>I have watched all of the videos of the upcoming game Madden 09, as well as looked at all the photos that that are available. I have noticed a common theme. The player models have not been improved for the past 3 years of next-generation Madden games. QBs, Halfbacks, Defensive-backs, Wide Receivers are all either the same size or larger than the defensive-linemen that are in these games. I watch football religiously. I have also played football on a college level and this is just one of the many things that bother me about Madden and NCAA Football Video games. EA claim is that “IF IT”S IN THE GAME, its IN THE GAME.” This is a bunch of bull. Wide receivers, Defensive Backs, etc should not be as big are bigger than Defensive Linemen. Get rid of the “Shaking Pursuit Camera” and spend more time on player models and game play problems. Who’s ever idea it was to change the play selection screen to a one play selection needs to be fired. If the average person did something that idiotic, they would be searching for work in another country. Not at EA. That is enough of my ranting for now. The people that this is for will probably never see this, or read it anyway. Please EASports, fix these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-21417</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;21311&quot;]The video looks good and it does look like they are making improvements - but to be honest Madden 08 looks good as well.  The [/quote]

MJ,

I couldn&#039;t disagree more strongly. Madden &#039;08&#039;s graphics were a disgrace to the generation and a disrespect to consumers. There is no way in hell that one could look at the enormously beautiful detail found in Madden &#039;07 and then say Madden &#039;08 was even on the same planet. Madden &#039;08 was perhaps the worst looking game in this generation since the XBOX 360&#039;s first software gen. The graphical detail and lighting in &#039;08 was absolutely pathetic, and even Phil Frazier--Madden Lead producer--himself admitted that &#039;08&#039;s graphics were weak right on the EA Boards (You should check out his threads there, he was very candid). EA got reamed by fans over that, and there was a pride check situation. That&#039;s why the graphics have been such a focus this season; because they know they eff&#039;d up with &#039;08. It was like they didn&#039;t even try.

But EA gets away with weak graphics like &#039;08 had because the Madden community is largely unable to recognize quality differences. Hence the inability of some to see how far down the toilet lighting, shading, and detail went in &#039;08--which are all measurable facts proven by a simple side-by-side comparison to &#039;07. I wish I could be oblivious to these things like many are, but I can tell these difference immediately and anything less than top quality is unacceptable to me. That&#039;s why I kicked &#039;08 to the curb very quickly. That and the fact that it had a glitch list longer than the list of George Bush&#039;s presidential failures...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="21311"]The video looks good and it does look like they are making improvements &#8211; but to be honest Madden 08 looks good as well.  The [/quote]</p>
<p>MJ,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t disagree more strongly. Madden &#8217;08&#8217;s graphics were a disgrace to the generation and a disrespect to consumers. There is no way in hell that one could look at the enormously beautiful detail found in Madden &#8216;07 and then say Madden &#8216;08 was even on the same planet. Madden &#8216;08 was perhaps the worst looking game in this generation since the XBOX 360&#8217;s first software gen. The graphical detail and lighting in &#8216;08 was absolutely pathetic, and even Phil Frazier&#8211;Madden Lead producer&#8211;himself admitted that &#8217;08&#8217;s graphics were weak right on the EA Boards (You should check out his threads there, he was very candid). EA got reamed by fans over that, and there was a pride check situation. That&#8217;s why the graphics have been such a focus this season; because they know they eff&#8217;d up with &#8216;08. It was like they didn&#8217;t even try.</p>
<p>But EA gets away with weak graphics like &#8216;08 had because the Madden community is largely unable to recognize quality differences. Hence the inability of some to see how far down the toilet lighting, shading, and detail went in &#8216;08&#8211;which are all measurable facts proven by a simple side-by-side comparison to &#8216;07. I wish I could be oblivious to these things like many are, but I can tell these difference immediately and anything less than top quality is unacceptable to me. That&#8217;s why I kicked &#8216;08 to the curb very quickly. That and the fact that it had a glitch list longer than the list of George Bush&#8217;s presidential failures&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JagerMichael</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-21392</link>
		<dc:creator>JagerMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pasta, Ian Cummings is answering a lot of questions over at the official forums in response to this video and a lot of things beyond that. He talks about a lot of things they&#039;ve worked on and lot of things that we could see in the future.

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=365211&amp;tstart=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pasta, Ian Cummings is answering a lot of questions over at the official forums in response to this video and a lot of things beyond that. He talks about a lot of things they&#8217;ve worked on and lot of things that we could see in the future.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=365211&amp;tstart=0" rel="nofollow">http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?threadID=365211&amp;tstart=0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/14/madden-09-tackling-blog-and-video/comment-page-2#comment-21377</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;21364&quot;]Hey it looks great and all but what madden really needs is a new look these same player models moving in a new way isnt all that exciting hey if you squint your eyes madden looks real but it looks like last year but a lil smoother an example of how much it improved is like you playn ps2 version of madden then go to your friends house and play the xbox version you notice how polished it looks thats all this seem like to me i think to bring the spark back is to redo the models. I know im the millionth person to say this but ea really has to add the espn presentation cause the sprint halftime show is garbage you have to randomly look through the highlights i feel like they changed that but i doubt it and what up with ea being so secretive with the information i mean they carry the nfl license so its not like they have competition all pro and back breaker combined wont beat out madden sales lets just be real so they really need to drop that blockbuster feature on us and stop with the crap new camera angle thingy as a feature you wait on for an entire week i was so disappointed when i saw that say something like there will be a nfl draft show with mel kiper jr not junk like return field goals and weather and a wider camera angle that is freakn weak ea used to be the truth and people use to not complain that much with features like owner mode and hit stick and playmaker on the run fan creator training camp during franchise now we have DRUM ROLL PLEASE A GREAT SNOW STORM OH AND CLEAR VISORS!!!![/quote]

You probably make a point in that large dump of words somewhere, but without basic grammar I can&#039;t understand a thing you write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="21364"]Hey it looks great and all but what madden really needs is a new look these same player models moving in a new way isnt all that exciting hey if you squint your eyes madden looks real but it looks like last year but a lil smoother an example of how much it improved is like you playn ps2 version of madden then go to your friends house and play the xbox version you notice how polished it looks thats all this seem like to me i think to bring the spark back is to redo the models. I know im the millionth person to say this but ea really has to add the espn presentation cause the sprint halftime show is garbage you have to randomly look through the highlights i feel like they changed that but i doubt it and what up with ea being so secretive with the information i mean they carry the nfl license so its not like they have competition all pro and back breaker combined wont beat out madden sales lets just be real so they really need to drop that blockbuster feature on us and stop with the crap new camera angle thingy as a feature you wait on for an entire week i was so disappointed when i saw that say something like there will be a nfl draft show with mel kiper jr not junk like return field goals and weather and a wider camera angle that is freakn weak ea used to be the truth and people use to not complain that much with features like owner mode and hit stick and playmaker on the run fan creator training camp during franchise now we have DRUM ROLL PLEASE A GREAT SNOW STORM OH AND CLEAR VISORS!!!![/quote]</p>
<p>You probably make a point in that large dump of words somewhere, but without basic grammar I can&#8217;t understand a thing you write.</p>
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		<title>By: thesteamontheboat</title>
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		<dc:creator>thesteamontheboat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey it looks great and all but what madden really needs is a new look these same player models moving in a new way isnt all that exciting hey if you squint your eyes madden looks real but it looks like last year but a lil smoother an example of how much it improved is like you playn ps2 version of madden then go to your friends house and play the xbox version you notice how polished it looks thats all this seem like to me i think to bring the spark back is to redo the models. I know im the millionth person to say this but ea really has to add the espn presentation cause the sprint halftime show is garbage you have to randomly look through the highlights i feel like they changed that but i doubt it and what up with ea being so secretive with the information i mean they carry the nfl license so its not like they have competition all pro and back breaker combined wont beat out madden sales lets just be real so they really need to drop that blockbuster feature on us and stop with the crap new camera angle thingy as a feature you wait on for an entire week i was so disappointed when i saw that say something like there will be a nfl draft show with mel kiper jr not junk like return field goals and weather and a wider camera angle that is freakn weak ea used to be the truth and people use to not complain that much with features like owner mode and hit stick and playmaker on the run fan creator training camp during franchise now we have DRUM ROLL PLEASE A GREAT SNOW STORM OH AND CLEAR VISORS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey it looks great and all but what madden really needs is a new look these same player models moving in a new way isnt all that exciting hey if you squint your eyes madden looks real but it looks like last year but a lil smoother an example of how much it improved is like you playn ps2 version of madden then go to your friends house and play the xbox version you notice how polished it looks thats all this seem like to me i think to bring the spark back is to redo the models. I know im the millionth person to say this but ea really has to add the espn presentation cause the sprint halftime show is garbage you have to randomly look through the highlights i feel like they changed that but i doubt it and what up with ea being so secretive with the information i mean they carry the nfl license so its not like they have competition all pro and back breaker combined wont beat out madden sales lets just be real so they really need to drop that blockbuster feature on us and stop with the crap new camera angle thingy as a feature you wait on for an entire week i was so disappointed when i saw that say something like there will be a nfl draft show with mel kiper jr not junk like return field goals and weather and a wider camera angle that is freakn weak ea used to be the truth and people use to not complain that much with features like owner mode and hit stick and playmaker on the run fan creator training camp during franchise now we have DRUM ROLL PLEASE A GREAT SNOW STORM OH AND CLEAR VISORS!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: $5 foot long</title>
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		<dc:creator>$5 foot long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;21330&quot;][quote comment=&quot;21328&quot;][quote comment=&quot;21327&quot;]Wow a lot of whiny babies here today and a Super Spammer{5$ Dollar Foot Long}[/quote]

hey i&#039;m just tellin it like it is...and its the truth..funny how mlb 2k8 got slaughtered on here and no one stopped and gave that game a chance and said its just a game but yet when madden 09 shows glitz and glammer here and there everyone jumps on you and the community tries to burn you at the stake.. I want a valuable reason why Madden 09 will be good and when i see something slacking it gets at me..because even though its a game..there is still room for improvment..whether or not the masses settle for less..[/quote]

Because you always throw that Madden Sheep analogy around for every post you type. People will buy what they want to buy no matter how crappy another person tells them the game is because it&#039;s their choice. But I like MLB2K8 over the other game though but like I said it&#039;s just my preference like all the other people here.[/quote]

when i hear a bahh i have to point to see one..now when i talk about them i mention them. apparently if your the type that prefer a certain type of thing and attack others for pointing out whats wrong is entirely different from those who just wish to get something because they are consumers. two different stories now if your doing what you do good for you..but if those who point out people who like quality then those who do the action should be called out..its only fair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="21330"][quote comment="21328"][quote comment="21327"]Wow a lot of whiny babies here today and a Super Spammer{5$ Dollar Foot Long}[/quote]</p>
<p>hey i&#8217;m just tellin it like it is&#8230;and its the truth..funny how mlb 2k8 got slaughtered on here and no one stopped and gave that game a chance and said its just a game but yet when madden 09 shows glitz and glammer here and there everyone jumps on you and the community tries to burn you at the stake.. I want a valuable reason why Madden 09 will be good and when i see something slacking it gets at me..because even though its a game..there is still room for improvment..whether or not the masses settle for less..[/quote]</p>
<p>Because you always throw that Madden Sheep analogy around for every post you type. People will buy what they want to buy no matter how crappy another person tells them the game is because it&#8217;s their choice. But I like MLB2K8 over the other game though but like I said it&#8217;s just my preference like all the other people here.[/quote]</p>
<p>when i hear a bahh i have to point to see one..now when i talk about them i mention them. apparently if your the type that prefer a certain type of thing and attack others for pointing out whats wrong is entirely different from those who just wish to get something because they are consumers. two different stories now if your doing what you do good for you..but if those who point out people who like quality then those who do the action should be called out..its only fair</p>
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		<title>By: Dre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;21328&quot;][quote comment=&quot;21327&quot;]Wow a lot of whiny babies here today and a Super Spammer{5$ Dollar Foot Long}[/quote]

hey i&#039;m just tellin it like it is...and its the truth..funny how mlb 2k8 got slaughtered on here and no one stopped and gave that game a chance and said its just a game but yet when madden 09 shows glitz and glammer here and there everyone jumps on you and the community tries to burn you at the stake.. I want a valuable reason why Madden 09 will be good and when i see something slacking it gets at me..because even though its a game..there is still room for improvment..whether or not the masses settle for less..[/quote]

Because you always throw that Madden Sheep analogy around for every post you type. People will buy what they want to buy no matter how crappy another person tells them the game is because it&#039;s their choice. But I like MLB2K8 over the other game though but like I said it&#039;s just my preference like all the other people here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="21328"][quote comment="21327"]Wow a lot of whiny babies here today and a Super Spammer{5$ Dollar Foot Long}[/quote]</p>
<p>hey i&#8217;m just tellin it like it is&#8230;and its the truth..funny how mlb 2k8 got slaughtered on here and no one stopped and gave that game a chance and said its just a game but yet when madden 09 shows glitz and glammer here and there everyone jumps on you and the community tries to burn you at the stake.. I want a valuable reason why Madden 09 will be good and when i see something slacking it gets at me..because even though its a game..there is still room for improvment..whether or not the masses settle for less..[/quote]</p>
<p>Because you always throw that Madden Sheep analogy around for every post you type. People will buy what they want to buy no matter how crappy another person tells them the game is because it&#8217;s their choice. But I like MLB2K8 over the other game though but like I said it&#8217;s just my preference like all the other people here.</p>
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