
A while back I took down some notes on uniform errors that had been seen in the screenshots and videos for Madden 09. One of them was the Cowboys’ helmet star which was far too large. Producer Ian Cummings has released a screen demonstrating that this has been fixed which can be compared to a previous Felix Jones screenshot.
In my interview with Peter Moore I brought up the issue of uniform inaccuracies and he stated that it would be a topic they would address. Since then we’ve learned that instead of using the NFL provided style guide they are reviewing the uniforms that have been worn by the teams in video to make sure they match correctly. That has shown to be a positive development as many teams that have been plagued by wrong uniform combinations over the years have been seen as finally correct in media that has been displayed.
Currently the list of uniform errors that I have noted for EA consists of: Ravens need black shoes, Chiefs need AFL patch and numbers on jersey sleeves instead of the shoulders, Steelers helmet should have single digit number on the yellow stripe instead of off to the side of it, and some Seahawks players wear neon green gloves or shoes (pipe dream that’ll be in though).
Feel free to add anything you’ve noticed that isn’t right or that has been incorrect over the years and I’ll include them in the list to pass along as well as check on next week.
May 23, 2008 at 6:33 pm
NFC South
Tampa Bay
Home: Red/Pewter
Away: White/Pewter
Alt: Red/White (which hasn’t been worn for about 5 years)
Classic: Orange/White (which will never see the light of day and the logo
faces wrong way on one side)
Missing: White/White combo
Caro
Home: Black/Silver
Away: White/White
Alt: Blue/Silver (and all white socks while the bench guys have the correct
black socks)
Atl
Home: Red/White
Away: White/Black (wrong socks they are white with a black stripe instead of
black)
Classic: Red/Gray (with red helmet), Black/Gray (Jerry Glanville homes)
Missing: All Black, White/White, Red/Black
NO
Home: Black/Gold (missing black pant stripe)
Away: White/Black
Alt: Black/Black, Black/Gold (correct current uniform)
Missing: White/Gold
NFC East
Wash
Home: Burganday/White
Away: White/Burgandy (Clinton Portis style burgandy home sock not normal
ones)
Classic: Burgandy/Yellow (70th Anniv patch, missing wordmark, spears on
pants/shoulder face wrong way on one side)
Retro: Burgandy/Yellow (nothing on the helmet, logo on the sleeve)
Missing: White/White
Dal
Home: Blue/Silver (yes blue)
Away: White/Silver
Classic: Blue/Silver (Aikman era homes and numbers are not outlined)
Alt: White/White (White version of current throwback and selecting it means
both teams are in white)
Missing: Blue/White (current throwback)
Philly
Home: Green/White
Away: White/Green
Classic: Green/Gray (Retro uni that is really old with green helmet and huge
gray stripe down middle)
Alt: Black/White, Blue/White (This year’s 75th anniv)
Missing: White/White, Black/Green
NYG
Home: Blue/Gray
Away: White/Gray
Alt: Red/Gray
Classic: Blue/White (Simms era)
NFC West
StL
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/Gold
Alt: Blue/White (First navy uniform with gold underarms and squirrly gold
stripe on pants)
Classic: Blue/Yellow (SB uniforms)
Missing: Blue/Gold, Blue/Blue, White/Blue, White/White
AZ
Home: Red/White
Away: White/White
Classic: Red/White (Previous uniform) Red/Khaki (’94 throwbacks)
Missing: Red/Red, White/Red
SF
Home: Red/Gold
Away: White/Gold
Alt: Red/White (which I haven’t since since they first updated their look)
Classic: Red/White (I believe it’s the ‘94 throwbacks, but there is no logo
or stripe on the helmet)
Missing: Red/Gold (Montana era throwbacks that they wear)
Sea
Home: Blue/Blue
Away: White/White
Classic: Blue/Silver
Missing: Blue/White, White/Blue
NFC North
Chi
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/Blue
Alt: Orange/White
Classic: Blue/Khaki (’94 Throwbacks)
Missing: Blue/Blue, White/White (which they have a pic of Hester wearing
while game is loading)
GB
Home: Green/Yellow
Away: White/Yellow
Classic: Yellow-Blue/Khaki (’94 Throwbacks), Green/Yellow (Bart Starr era
but has current green mask instead of gray)
Det
Home: Blue/Silver
Away: White/Silver
Alt: Black/Silver
Classic: Blue/Silver (Thanksgiving style but has NFL style blue socks
instead of solid blue)
Min
Home: Purple/White
Away: White/Purple
Alt: Purple/White (last set minus Viking on sleeve), Purple/White (what they
will throwback to, but has purple mask instead of gray)
Missing: White/White
AFC North
Pitt
Home: Black/Yellow
Away: White/Yellow
Classic: Black-Yellow/Khaki (’94 Throwbacks)
Alt: Black/White (new one this year) Yellow-Black/Yellow (this one has the
current helmet and looks like the old school one with a yellow yoke)
Cleve
Home: Brown/White
Away: White/Brown (never used)
Alt: Orange/White (retired)
Classic: Brown/White (looks like the homes from a few years ago, but #s are
outlined in orange)
Missing: White/White (and it’s on the back of the box from a screen shot)
Cin
Home: Black/White
Away: White/Black
Classic: Black/White (Bengals on helmet era)
Missing: White/White, Orange/Black, Orange/White, Black/Black
Bal
Home: Purple/White
Away: White/White
Alt: Black/Black
Classic: Purple/White (One with Raven spread on sleeve and old socks)
AFC West
Den
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/White
Classic: Orange/White (Elway/Reeves era)
Retro: Orange/White (throwbacks from the ‘94 season)
Missing: Orange/White, Blue/Blue
Oak
Home: Black/Silver
Away: White/Silver
Classic: Black/Silver (’94 Throwback)
KC
Home: Red/White
Away: White/Red
Alt: Red/Red (never worn), Red/White (The only difference I see from their
current set is there are no sleeve stripes)
Missing: White/White
SD
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/Blue
Alt: Powder Blue/White (Gray mask on helmet)
Classic: Powder Blue/White (Missing helmet numbers)
AFC South
Ind
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/White
Hou
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/Blue
Alt: Red/White, Blue/Blue (they have red socks and when they did this, they
wore blue socks)
Missing: White/White
Jax
Home: Teal/White
Away: White/Black
Alt: Black/Black, Teal/Black (listed as Classic)
Missing: White/White
Ten
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/Blue
Classic: Light Blue Oilers/White
Alts: White/White, White/Light Blue, Light Blue/Blue, Light Blue/Light Blue,
Blue/Blue
AFC East
NYJ
Home: Green/White
Away: White/White
Classic: Green/White (Keyshawn rookie era and mistakenly has current chest
logo on it)
Alt: Green/Green
Missing: White/Green
Buf
Home: Blue/White
Away: White/Blue
Classic: Blue/White (Kelly era)
Alt: Blue/White (current throwbacks)
Missing: White/White, Blue/Blue
Mia
Home: Aqua/White
Away: White/Aqua (which hasn’t been seen in years)
Alt: Orange/White (see above), Aqua/Aqua
Missing: White/White
NE
Home: Blue/Silver
Away: White/Blue
Classics: Blue/Gray (Bledsoe years lighter blue), Red/White (Pat Patriot)
Missing: Silver/Blue”
and to add on from me lastly from cherman24 they’re two sock errors that
needs to be fixed. new englands away socks are three blue stripes.
colts have solid blue socks
dolphins alternate home socks is orange and white, not straight orange
the 57 lions socks is pure blue all the way down
and green bays throwback facemask is grey
and the lions away is blue on white.
the baltimore ravens have black shoes
August 28, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Charger's retro powder blues jersey is a horrible hibrid between the 60s and 2007 alternate:
Numbers are as in the original 60's jersey, but the lightning on shoulders, and the "Chargers" logo are from the current thing. NFL shield is missing on CHARGERS white jerseys. You can´t get the chargers real 2007 alternate look since the powder blues numbers doesn´t match and the pants with the powder blue stripe with the 2007 bolt are missing too!
Neither the navy jersey is correct on Madden 10! Numbers happened to be outlined with a powder blue line, not a navy one!
May 23, 2008 at 6:34 pm
the redskins wear white on red at home with yellow on red stripes classic socks not solid red.
May 23, 2008 at 6:39 pm
49ers have black shoes.
May 23, 2008 at 6:42 pm
49ners throwback? is from the 1980’s(montana to rice) plus what you already got pasta.
May 23, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Falcons wear all white unis on the road not white/black. The only time they were white/black are for the cold weather games. All Black unis need to be Alt.
May 23, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Chiefs and Jets logos are way to big
I think it would be smart for EA to go back and check the sized of every teams logo.
May 23, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Ian, you better get ready for the Cold Turkey Classic, for I hear Zack and Brad have been juicin’ up. I’ll be there this year, I promise; we’re 1-0 against those turkeys!
May 23, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Every team that wears all white uniforms (eagles, redskins, bucs, etc.). There are so many teams that do this and only the Titans had this uniform style in 08. Hopefully EA will catch up, it sounds like they are.
May 23, 2008 at 7:49 pm
[quote comment="21963"]Chiefs and Jets logos are way to big
I think it would be smart for EA to go back and check the sized of every teams logo.[/quote]
agreed.. this was the point i was going to mention.. alot of teams helmet decals are too big, Chiefs was next in line behind Dallas in ones that really stood out to me
May 23, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Pasta,
Will EA finally include all of the alternate/Retro uniforms like NFL 2k5 did? This is next-gen and it hardly seems like it.
May 23, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Teams like the Bengals and the Falcons have a lot of the jersey types. Bengals need their orange jerseys and combinations such as all black, all white, orange/black, orange/white and the Falcons needs all black, red/black, all white. But as far as EA fixing the uniforms I noticed the Bears numbers are thick anymore, and the eagles home jerseys have the black shadow with the silver outlining. Game definitely looking good so far tho.
May 23, 2008 at 8:59 pm
The first guy hit upon the main errors in the Jets uniforums. Please pasta get them to hear this one. Much like the cowboys the Jets helmet logo is to big and should be cut in size dramatically. Aslo going off this screen shot it seems they have the color correct this year http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e149/a4reak/Jets%20Stuff/?action=view¤t=gholstonmadde.jpg . Please have they decreae the size of numbers on the arn sleeve.
Thanks a lot
May 23, 2008 at 9:13 pm
EA has corrected the Minnesota Vikings jerseys this season.
Now they need to add the Viking’s purple jerseys with purple pants. They wore this uniform against the Bears on Monday night.
May 23, 2008 at 9:16 pm
EA has corrected the Minnesota Vikings jerseys this season.
Now they need to add the Viking’s purple jerseys with purple pants. They wore this uniform against the Bears on Monday night.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/2007/09000d5d805382da_gallery_600.jpg
May 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Personally I couldn’t give a crap about minute uniform details. I don’t make it a habit of trying to memorize the uniforms for every team in the NFL. Ignorance is bliss when it comes that crap.
As long as the game mechanics are solid, I couldn’t care less if the players came out wearing a pink tutu and a friggin tiara.
GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY…….THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. Get that right and you have a winner. Get it wrong and you have a crap game but look on the bright side, your teams uni’s are acurate.
May 23, 2008 at 9:33 pm
EA needs to figure out the numbers on the helmets for the throwback Chargers (and now the throwback Browns, if they choose to include the uniform used occasionally for the past couple of years). It’s certainly not impossible. The Alabama helmet numbers have been available in EA NCAA for years now. I for one would love to see more throwback jerseys in the Madden series. 2K proved that a quality title can be introduced with tons of throwback/alternate uniform choices. That being said, I think overall that EA has paid great attention to uniform details. The Bears and Steelers 94 unis are tight.
May 23, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Houston’s Battle Red Uni’s. They wore them on a thursday night against Denver. they have a red jersey and red pants.
May 23, 2008 at 10:11 pm
eagles black jersey
black pants w/white,green stripe on leg
green jersey
white pants w/green and black stripe
white jersey
green pants w/thin white and thin silver and black stripe
white jersey
white pants w/green and black stripe
green jersey
green pants w/thin white and thin silver and black stripe
black shoes
May 23, 2008 at 11:38 pm
[quote comment="21974"]Personally I couldn’t give a crap about minute uniform details. I don’t make it a habit of trying to memorize the uniforms for every team in the NFL. Ignorance is bliss when it comes that crap.
As long as the game mechanics are solid, I couldn’t care less if the players came out wearing a pink tutu and a friggin tiara.
GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY…….THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. Get that right and you have a winner. Get it wrong and you have a crap game but look on the bright side, your teams uni’s are acurate.[/quote]
This is duh about uni’s unlike you many of us care about our fav teams having the right apparel, if you didn’t want to hear about unis then wtf did u enter this post
May 23, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Blitz, you sure get on everyone’s nerves. Even the people on the EA boards have told you to shut the hell up several times, lol. Who cares what you don’t care about? LOL. It’s obviously important to others so let it be.
Obviously gameplay is the most important thing, but it’s weak to just give a company a pass when they make so many easily correctable mistakes year in-year out.
May 24, 2008 at 12:13 am
i’ll back you up Blitz…i agree minute inaccuracies in uniforms are definitely not a game killer…and are just one more thing for people to whine about…but i also understand that if people need correctly striped socks to play better then more power to them…
May 24, 2008 at 12:38 am
Broncos missing orange gloves!!!
January 28, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Same with the Bears
Hester has orange gloves
And he had the on in the SUPER BOWL
ya the one when he returned the opening Kick
May 24, 2008 at 1:35 am
EA needs to REALLY add my Broncos all blue uniform, Blue jersey/blue pants. Last season especially we wore all blues on more than one occasion.
May 24, 2008 at 1:37 am
[quote comment="21980"]i’ll back you up Blitz…i agree minute inaccuracies in uniforms are definitely not a game killer…and are just one more thing for people to whine about…but i also understand that if people need correctly striped socks to play better then more power to them…[/quote]
its not about that. If EA is offering to fix the detail they f’ed up in uniforms what think we should not point out what they should fix? No one hear is implying this is a gamebreaker it just would be really nice if they could get it right
May 24, 2008 at 2:12 am
Its about time they fixed the star. That used to bug me to death.
May 24, 2008 at 6:10 am
wow i thought the dallas cowboys screenshot was a photo until i looked at it closely.
May 24, 2008 at 6:43 am
I wish they would just let us pick the tops and bottoms of the uniform before each game instead of having predetermined combos.
May 24, 2008 at 7:24 am
[quote comment="21990"]I wish they would just let us pick the tops and bottoms of the uniform before each game instead of having predetermined combos.[/quote]
agreed.. i’ve been wishing for this in both Madden and NCAA
May 24, 2008 at 8:08 am
[quote comment="21974"]Personally I couldn’t give a crap about minute uniform details. I don’t make it a habit of trying to memorize the uniforms for every team in the NFL. Ignorance is bliss when it comes that crap.
As long as the game mechanics are solid, I couldn’t care less if the players came out wearing a pink tutu and a friggin tiara.
GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY…….THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. Get that right and you have a winner. Get it wrong and you have a crap game but look on the bright side, your teams uni’s are acurate.[/quote]
Again, I don’t know why fans like you make it seem that improvements are an either-or kind of thing. They can correct the uniforms and still place the focus on gameplay. Besides, Ian Cummings has already said that they have different teams working on different aspects of the game (common sense btw). So just b/c they are trying to get uniforms straightened up (Thank God for fixing the Cowboys helmets) doesn’t mean gameplay gets neglected. Get a clue.
May 24, 2008 at 8:29 am
[quote comment="21974"]Personally I couldn’t give a crap about minute uniform details. I don’t make it a habit of trying to memorize the uniforms for every team in the NFL. Ignorance is bliss when it comes that crap.
As long as the game mechanics are solid, I couldn’t care less if the players came out wearing a pink tutu and a friggin tiara.
GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY…….THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. Get that right and you have a winner. Get it wrong and you have a crap game but look on the bright side, your teams uni’s are acurate.[/quote]
^^^ it’s customers like you that breathe medocrity in the world and in customer service…consumers like your self hinder a product and shade it as GAMEPLAY. stop settling for less with this gameplay crap..the gameplay comes into effect when the little details are done right. if you take care of the little things in life then the rest will be good..i hope you do your job or life like that because if you live your life like the one track request you just posted..your in trouble and your missing alot of stuff.
May 24, 2008 at 9:02 am
AZ
Home: Red/White
Away: White/White
Classic: Red/White (Previous uniform) Red/Khaki (’94 throwbacks)
Missing: Red/Red, White/Red
———-
Arizona’s away jersey is: White/Red, not White/White.
Also, the seahawk on the helmet [for Seattle] Doesn’t wrap around the helmet completley, in reality the logo raps around the helmet. It would be nice to have the option of lime green gloves too.
May 24, 2008 at 9:40 am
Rams gold gloves , Dolphins orange gloves, Browns orange gloves, Giants red gloves, Bills red gloves, Patriots red gloves, Texans red gloves, Jaguars gold gloves, Bears orange gloves. This game needs eye paint and nasal strips too.
May 24, 2008 at 9:42 am
The Bears stadium name needs to be Soldier field and the 49ers are Candlestick Park again.
May 24, 2008 at 10:06 am
Last but not least are mouthpieces.
May 24, 2008 at 10:17 am
Patsa,
When you go to the community event next week, ask them to post some screens of all the teams uniforms so we can identify errors and get this cleared up once and for all.
May 24, 2008 at 10:17 am
Pasta… Sorry!
May 24, 2008 at 10:52 am
what about new nfl gloves
May 24, 2008 at 1:01 pm
[quote comment="21974"]
GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY, GAMEPLAY…….THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT. Get that right and you have a winner.[/quote]
Wrong, get that right and you have a start. There are plenty of games that have truly good gameplay but such a bad setting or a bland story that they end up falling short. You want good, solid gameplay with a great attention to detail to make everything else stand out(altho if you could, youd want GREAT gameplay with a GREAT attention to detail). Look at GTA IV, the game features solid gameplay, not great, but solid, yet Rockstar has done an AMAZING job on the littlest of details that truly makes the city come alive thus making the game arguably one of the best games to hit the next-gen consoles. Had Rockstar of taken your approach, we would of had a Gears of War like shooting system but with a city that felt like the surface of the Moon. So sure gameplay is very important, but having great detail truly helps that gameplay stay fresh.
May 24, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I know it’s nitpicking…but it’d be nice if they gave an option about sock height as some players where their socks high (mostly white…ala Reggie Bush) and some where their sock low (mostly color…ala Brian Dawkins) and some in between.
May 24, 2008 at 1:44 pm
I believe that the shade of silver on dallas’ helmet has been too dark on madden 06, 07, and 08 for 360. I know this is totally nitpicking but their helmets look fine on every version of madden for PS2.
May 24, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Pasta,
Can you make sure that you bring up equipment accuracy as well. Last year d-line/o-line/linebackers had the wrong default facemask. It was the freaky “full-cage with vertical bars up near the eyes” ala the robot or Deion Sanders/Emmit Smith mask. No one in the NFl wears that and I barely see it in the NCAA. The default should be the “full-cage” or the “Revo full-cage” for lineman and LB’s.
May 24, 2008 at 2:50 pm
[quote comment="22012"]I know it’s nitpicking…but it’d be nice if they gave an option about sock height as some players where their socks high (mostly white…ala Reggie Bush) and some where their sock low (mostly color…ala Brian Dawkins) and some in between.[/quote]
I can safely say that this will never happen as long as the NFL retains an exclusive license deal. Simply put, the socks are a MANDATORY part of the uniform and players in the league actually get fined for not compiling with the specifications every week. I just can’t see EA (or anyone else in the future for that matter) getting the NFL’s permission to change that…
May 24, 2008 at 2:54 pm
[quote comment="22019"]I believe that the shade of silver on dallas’ helmet has been too dark on madden 06, 07, and 08 for 360. I know this is totally nitpicking but their helmets look fine on every version of madden for PS2.[/quote]
Agreed…I actually thought the Cowboys uniform errors over the last few versions were some of the biggest gaffes in the game – starting with the wrong default at home, then the ’start’ logo being about three sizes too large amd ending with the color being all wrong too. I was astounded that “America’s Team” – the single most recognizable team in the NFL to many casual fans – was actually one of the worst portrayals in the entire game!
Its good to see that they have moved beyond that now…the screenshot posted above finally DOES look like the Dallas Cowboys again! (of course the easy “shot” here is “about friging time”, but I choose to look at this as further evidence that Frazier/Cummings/Moore and company are legit in saying they will bring Madden back to the top of the sports game world again…
May 24, 2008 at 5:09 pm
[quote comment="22000"]The Bears stadium name needs to be Soldier field and the 49ers are Candlestick Park again.[/quote]
I do not believe this is possible!
There are naming rights i think
May 24, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Could you please just make sure the Browns uniforms are right this year?
May 24, 2008 at 7:13 pm
SD alternate uniforms have blue facemask not grey as in their previous throwbacks..
Dal..black is not part of their uniform..Felix Jones should have white tape not black as shown in the screenshot
May 24, 2008 at 10:35 pm
Moostache, I think you may have misunderstood my post above regarding the sock lengths…
While the NFL does have strict uniform standards, NFL players actually have different options regarding the team socks they are given.
One set of socks has both white and the team color/stripes (with the white being at the foot and the color/stripe being at the end of the sock tube).
They also have a set of just a plain colored sock (team color) along with a regular white tube sock.
Some players wear the socks with the “combo” socks whereas some choose to wear the colored sock with the plain white sock over it.
Wearing the two seperate socks, some players wear the white tube sock pulled up (Reggie Bush) and some wear the white tube suck scrunched down. A good example of this would be Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmanzadeh.
Either way, both styles are worn by different players and the different socks are part of the NFL’s official uniform.
May 24, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Come to think of it, I recall someone mentioning the option to have socks high, low or normal was in NCAA 09.
I know that based on one of the latest videos for NCAA 09, Knowshon Moreno had long black socks, which he does wear, though this differed from other Georgia playeers in the video clip.
Not that this is a HUGE deal…just a nice minor detail to make the game more authentic…
May 25, 2008 at 7:49 am
I noticed the Seattle Seahawks’ throwbacks had these errors:
1) Logo on helmet did not stretch behind the helmet
2) Logo on helmet — top stripe should be blue and bottom stripe green….Game had bottom stripe as transparent…LOOKED HORRIBLE!!!!
Also, I would like to see the 80’s Seahawks uniforms where teh Seahawk logo is on the sleeves. Although I like the originals, the 80s uniforms were the best.
Also, I would like to see EA go the way of 2K and add uniforms that weren’t worn. 2K had Dolphins’ navy blues, Vikings yellows, etc….
Also, Detroit Lions 1980 home uniforms had silver numbers with white outline, some of the best uniforms ever…
May 25, 2008 at 7:51 am
Oh, and the Dallas helmets look much better. I also agree that the hue of the silver was dark. It appears that EA has it more accurate.
I also thought that the Chiefs logos on the helmets appeared to be over-sized as well….