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	<title>Comments on: Madden 09 gang tackling</title>
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		<title>By: Jakhas</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/27/madden-09-gang-tackling/comment-page-2#comment-31533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakhas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why buy the ESPN licsense and never use it in the presentation like espn nfl 2k5. Can someone please explain this to me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why buy the ESPN licsense and never use it in the presentation like espn nfl 2k5. Can someone please explain this to me?</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>last</description>
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		<title>By: MaddenMark</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/27/madden-09-gang-tackling/comment-page-2#comment-22970</link>
		<dc:creator>MaddenMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I am here to admit defeat to 2k’s gang tackling system.”

I love Madden games but I have a strong feeling he would&#039;t admit that if there were another 2k football game coming this year. 

He can admit it now because there is really nothing else to buy. Backbreaker dont count for competition until they prove themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I am here to admit defeat to 2k’s gang tackling system.”</p>
<p>I love Madden games but I have a strong feeling he would&#8217;t admit that if there were another 2k football game coming this year. </p>
<p>He can admit it now because there is really nothing else to buy. Backbreaker dont count for competition until they prove themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Game looks great to me although they still need to work on the footplanting.  Still see players sliding around especially between plays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Game looks great to me although they still need to work on the footplanting.  Still see players sliding around especially between plays.</p>
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		<title>By: VC animation dept</title>
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		<dc:creator>VC animation dept</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to be a great improvement over the previous years. Finally some decent looking gang tackles, but overall pretty pinbally still.

The overall change of direction movements of the players looks very artificial, almost robotic at times.

Example: look at the defender in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ41mC15rvg)at the 0:39 mark right before he makes the tackle. Also, the recievers at the 1:03 mark,their change of direction movements to make a block are so stiff and unatural. Guard at 1:24. A lot of players are doing this during each play and makes the gameplay look too artificial. I think if EA can fix this, the game will look a lot more natural. :think natural motion: ..EA

VC has the change of direction affecting momentum down a lil better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjcZGpVcDnI&amp;feature=related 

the defender @ 0:46 misses tackle, changes direction and it affects his momentum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to be a great improvement over the previous years. Finally some decent looking gang tackles, but overall pretty pinbally still.</p>
<p>The overall change of direction movements of the players looks very artificial, almost robotic at times.</p>
<p>Example: look at the defender in this video (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ41mC15rvg)at" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ41mC15rvg)at</a> the 0:39 mark right before he makes the tackle. Also, the recievers at the 1:03 mark,their change of direction movements to make a block are so stiff and unatural. Guard at 1:24. A lot of players are doing this during each play and makes the gameplay look too artificial. I think if EA can fix this, the game will look a lot more natural. :think natural motion: ..EA</p>
<p>VC has the change of direction affecting momentum down a lil better: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjcZGpVcDnI&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjcZGpVcDnI&amp;feature=related</a> </p>
<p>the defender @ 0:46 misses tackle, changes direction and it affects his momentum.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.pastapadre.com/2008/05/27/madden-09-gang-tackling/comment-page-2#comment-22815</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the ESPN presentation??

Has anyone ever asked EA/Tiburon why they don&#039;t use the ESPN license when it comes to presenation? There are sooo many cool things they could do with it, like what 2k did, but expand it 10 fold. The ticker doesn&#039;t count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the ESPN presentation??</p>
<p>Has anyone ever asked EA/Tiburon why they don&#8217;t use the ESPN license when it comes to presenation? There are sooo many cool things they could do with it, like what 2k did, but expand it 10 fold. The ticker doesn&#8217;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22482&quot;]But that conversation going on at OS is showing me that they have guys who can fix the issues, they just don&#039;t have enough football minds who are capable of spotting the issues.[/quote]

Agreed. I&#039;ve always thought that about Tiburon studios after playing the Madden and NCAA over the years. Makes me wonder if EA just hires just out of school game programmers and not TRUE sports fans where sports are a major part of their lives. They need to hire die hard football guys to help them out. They should hire some guys from sites like this to help out with areas of improvement. Then maybe they would have gang tackling down, realistic blocking, qb pockets, kick off that aren&#039;t in the endzone every kick, realistic DB play, and online leagues 5 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="22482"]But that conversation going on at OS is showing me that they have guys who can fix the issues, they just don&#8217;t have enough football minds who are capable of spotting the issues.[/quote]</p>
<p>Agreed. I&#8217;ve always thought that about Tiburon studios after playing the Madden and NCAA over the years. Makes me wonder if EA just hires just out of school game programmers and not TRUE sports fans where sports are a major part of their lives. They need to hire die hard football guys to help them out. They should hire some guys from sites like this to help out with areas of improvement. Then maybe they would have gang tackling down, realistic blocking, qb pockets, kick off that aren&#8217;t in the endzone every kick, realistic DB play, and online leagues 5 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 22:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;22535&quot;][quote comment=&quot;22515&quot;]hmmmmm... where&#039;s that new vid he promised us? don&#039;t wanna say that it appears to be typical EA...

but, just sayin&#039;[/quote]

Did you look for it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ41mC15rvg[/quote]

yes, i looked, but i didn&#039;t find it. 

thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="22535"][quote comment="22515"]hmmmmm&#8230; where&#8217;s that new vid he promised us? don&#8217;t wanna say that it appears to be typical EA&#8230;</p>
<p>but, just sayin&#8217;[/quote]</p>
<p>Did you look for it?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ41mC15rvg/quote" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ41mC15rvg/quote</a></p>
<p>yes, i looked, but i didn&#8217;t find it. </p>
<p>thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 14:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is anyone else unimpressed??  I was actually into this game and video yesterday, and now I&#039;ve done a total 180.  It looks the same as Madden 08.

Still don&#039;t have the true sense of a gang tackle.  The second guy just sort of comes in and hits the player and falls off, or worse yet, just falls off the play all together.

There are multiple other things that are still wrong in the video.

I&#039;m so disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone else unimpressed??  I was actually into this game and video yesterday, and now I&#8217;ve done a total 180.  It looks the same as Madden 08.</p>
<p>Still don&#8217;t have the true sense of a gang tackle.  The second guy just sort of comes in and hits the player and falls off, or worse yet, just falls off the play all together.</p>
<p>There are multiple other things that are still wrong in the video.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: JagerMichael</title>
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		<dc:creator>JagerMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this is the thread over at Operation Sports where he&#039;s talking about it.

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/250613-followup-gang-tackling-response.html

This guy has done more in the last 3 weeks than any other EA rep has to my knowledge and people are still throwing him under the EA bus. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is the thread over at Operation Sports where he&#8217;s talking about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/250613-followup-gang-tackling-response.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/250613-followup-gang-tackling-response.html</a></p>
<p>This guy has done more in the last 3 weeks than any other EA rep has to my knowledge and people are still throwing him under the EA bus. Amazing.</p>
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