Full Details on Patch #2 for Madden 09

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Posted August 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

Details on items that have been fixed with the second patch for Madden 09 are the topic of a brand new blog posted by producer Ian Cummings on the Madden 09 website. Included are the disconnects that have been plaguing online, franchise progression, fixed exploits including the WR Direct Snap and Deep Ball glitches, field degradation, and gameplay improvements. Most of the gripes consumers have had with the game look as though they’ll be addressed in the coming patch. Not sure there is much more you can ask for out of this.

The work on the patch has been completed and is being submitted to MS and Sony on Tuesday. This puts the time frame to expect it to arrive still at least a few weeks out. Continue on to read the full list of issues and workarounds.

1. Kicking play disconnect: If two opponents play a game with two different camera angles, in any situation where a game winning or tying kick was to be made, a disconnect could occur. “ActionCam” forces the game to go into slow-motion to add drama to these late kicks, but unfortunately the Classic camera does not, thus forcing the “disconnect”. This has been fixed…all cameras can still be used as well.

Workaround until the patch: If possible, ensure that you and your opponent have the same camera type chosen before starting an online game.

2. Stability issues in the play call / halftime highlights / postgame highlights screens (especially in Franchise mode after training games): This was a hard one to track down as not everyone was seeing it , we did find the issue however with some Instant Replay / cache corruption, and have a fix ready for patch 2.

Workaround until the patch: Save and re-boot after any point where you have entered the game. We learned that the likelihood of this issue appearing is magnified after multiple loads into and out of the game engine. From what we’ve seen so far, people that have tried playing only one game at a time (or even one Franchise training session at a time), and saving/rebooting afterwards, have had zero crashes.

3. Stability issues with Madden IQ end of game popup: This has been fixed.

Workaround until the patch: Always choose “No” at the Madden IQ end of game popup.

4. “WR direct snap” exploit: Cheesers found an exploit to direct snap to a WR for easy short yardage gain. Not only are we fixing this play (i.e. we aren’t removing it), we are also going to be re-setting records for anyone with a winning record that has been found to be using this play.

5. Franchise Progression / Regression (or lack thereof): The lack of higher numbers was a tuning value that I think everyone agreed was just too low. This has been juiced up so you should see more realistic progression now.

6. Edited players don’t progress: Players were not progressing after their jersey number (or pretty much any other attribute). This has been fixed.

7. Stability issue when exiting Madden ’93 in CE version: This has been fixed.

8. Deep ball glitch: Some enterprising gamers found a way to throw a deep ball while crossing the LOS and hit a receiver wide open at a decent rate. We addressed this by making sure the DB will no longer break on the ball when the QB crosses the line while throwing.

9. CPU running out of bounds: This bug appears when the CPU tries to switch hands while running to the sidelines. This is fixed for patch 2.

10. Penalty sliders ineffective: A common complaint from the hardcore community was the lack of effect from the penalty sliders. We increased these substantially for patch 2.

11. Field degradation: Another common complaint was the lack of field degradation. Our effect was very subtle, which was also getting overshadowed by our lighting and post effects, so we increased this effect for the patch.

12. Stability issue with the Eagles and a full ring meter: We found and fixed a rare issue where the gamer could run into stability issues while using the Eagles in mini-game with a ring meter that was completely full.

13. Play call screen hitch: We found and fixed a bug that was causing a noticeable hitch when exiting the play call screen

14. Prevent Defense issue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders sharing a deep zone/prevent assignment would loosen their coverage (because they thought the other guy was covering for them), which allowed the receiver to get behind them even though they were in Prevent.

15. Brett Favre stats: With the late addition of Brett Favre, we were not able to get his Career and Season statistics into the game for the roster update. This has now been added for patch 2.

16. Defensive Preplay Mis-cue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders would leave their man wide open in a Cover 3.

17. CPU quick-snap: A very common complaint on the forums was the speed at which the CPU snapped the ball. We added a random length of time (no less than 5 seconds) for the CPU to wait and even make pre-play adjustments.

18. Online playbook switch: We found and fixed an issue where playbooks were re-setting to the defaults after the playbook select popup was closed.

The patch is being tested as I write this and will be sent off for verification in the morning, so we are targeting less than a 3 week turnaround from today for this to hit the general public. (Woohoo!) We will also make sure to provide updates as the patch progresses through the 3rd party approval process. As a side note, as of this moment there have been no changes to database schema, so you won’t have to re-start your Franchise or delete any files.

It makes us very stoked to be able to make this many changes for a patch, and do them based directly on community feedback. There are always going to be folks that are upset if what they felt was a top issue wasn’t addressed, but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product. On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can. As for the rest of the items, I personally feel that we have hit a very good balance of top items because many of these issues can actually detract from an enjoyable experience, which is obviously the last thing we want.

And now that this patch is nearly out the door, I figured I’d drop some more good news… We have officially started building the “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them.

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  • bOOm

    “but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product.”

    So sorry you released a Next Gen game with many faults. As if next years buggy game can’t wait. Another reason to release madden every 2 yrs. One year is not enough time to get a 20 year old franchise up to snuff.

  • bOOm

    “but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product.”

    So sorry you released a Next Gen game with many faults. As if next years buggy game can’t wait. Another reason to release madden every 2 yrs. One year is not enough time to get a 20 year old franchise up to snuff.

  • KcChief

    So when is this patch supposed to be released?

  • KcChief

    So when is this patch supposed to be released?

  • http://gaming365.co.nr/ mistareal

    Thanks

  • http://gaming365.co.nr/ mistareal

    Thanks

  • JB

    “But damn if I haven’t barely played the game because the Online Dynasty in NCAA is just too much fun.”

    Pasta I agree with you the NCAA Online Dynasty mode is awesome. Have you gotten any feedback from the EA guys on some numbers of dynasties they are housing on their servers? One argument that the Madden developers often give for no Online Franchise Mode is that it would only be used by a small niche of the community. I am just curious at how well the NCAA feature has been received in terms of numbers. Any info you could provide would be appreciated.

  • JB

    “But damn if I haven’t barely played the game because the Online Dynasty in NCAA is just too much fun.”

    Pasta I agree with you the NCAA Online Dynasty mode is awesome. Have you gotten any feedback from the EA guys on some numbers of dynasties they are housing on their servers? One argument that the Madden developers often give for no Online Franchise Mode is that it would only be used by a small niche of the community. I am just curious at how well the NCAA feature has been received in terms of numbers. Any info you could provide would be appreciated.

  • tristate killa

    The patch is cute and all but does anyone know when the next roster update is coming?

  • tristate killa

    The patch is cute and all but does anyone know when the next roster update is coming?

  • Steven

    Sim Gamers Pack and no FAIR PLAY MENTIONED.
    GARBAGE.

  • Steven

    Sim Gamers Pack and no FAIR PLAY MENTIONED.
    GARBAGE.

  • BLACKFLAGZ

    PATCH OR NO PATCH MADDEN 2009 IS STILL GARBAGE! DID THEY FIX THE EVERY QB CAN ROLL OUT THING! EVEN IN QB CONTAIN QB ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO OUT RUN A D-LINEMAN! LAST NITE A GUY HAD ELI MANNING AND I HAD LB PLAYING D-LINE! I THINK ITS PRETTY GAY THAT EVERY QB ON THE GAME IS MIKE VICK! THEY ROLL OUT THROW THE BALL UP AND TOUCHDOWN! IT’S A DAMN SHAME WHEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ELI MANNING OR TOM BRADY ROLLING OUT AND BECOMING MIKE VICK! ARE THEY GOING TO PUT BACK IN STRAFE????????????????????? WHY AND THE HELL THEY TAKE IT OUT BUT MY CONTROLL SETTINGS STILL SAY “LT” IS TO STRAFE! MADDEN 2009 IS GARBAGE ONLINE! OFF-LINE IS PRETTY GOOD! OH YEAH I USED THE GLITCH PLAY SO WHAT BLAME EA SPORTS FOR DOING A GOOD JOB WITH TESTING EVERY PLAY IN THE GAME!(LOL)! WHY CAN’T BOTH THE WR AND CB BOTH JUMP IN THE AIR LIKE ON NCAA????? I DON’T WORRY ABOUT A GUY USER CATCHING ON ME CUZ I HAVE VERY GOOD STICK SKILLS! BUT ON MADDEN IT’S PRETTY DAMN ANNOYING WHEN EVERYONE WITH MADDEN 09 THIS YEAR PLAYS COVER 2 OR 3 EVERY DAMN PLAY NO MATTER IF YOU ARE RUNNING THE BALL OR NOT! MADDEN 2009 ONLINE PLAY IS VERY WEAK! TALKING BOUT REALL SIM FOOTBALL? MORE LIKE NFL BLITZ! ROUGHING THE QB AND KICKER NEVER GETS CALLED! TELL ME WHERE ARE THE BLACK REFS AT?????????????????????? AND WHY CAN’T I CLICK ON MY WR WHO IS BEING COVERED ONE ON ONE WITH A SUSPECT SAFETY AND BOMB HIS ASS??? IF RANDY MOSS WAS TO EVERY GET ONE ON ONE COVERAGE IN REAL LIFE WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN???? I DON”T CARE IF DEION SANDERS WAS COVERING HIM HIS ASS WOULD BE TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB THIS YEAR EA YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW HOW TO SCREW YOUR WAY TO THE TOP! WELL NOT EA I MEANT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE MADDEN 09! BECAUSE NCAA 2009 IS THE BEST FOOTBALL GAME ON NEXT-GEN SINCE NEXT-GEN RELEASED 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO! ONLY PERSON GETS CREDIT FROM ME ON MADDEN 09 IS THE GUY WHO DID THE VISUALS ON THE GAME THIS YEAR! HELL OF A JOB! KEEP HIM AND FIRE THE OTHER NREDS LET THEM GO WORK ON THE NEXT HARRY POTTER VIDEO GAME CUZ THEY DO NOT KNO ABOUT FOOTBALL! SINCERELY- PISSED OFF FORMER MADDEN LOVER!!!!!!! OH YEAH IF THEY RESET MY RECORD ON MADDEN I WILL SUE THEY ASS FOR FALSE ADVERTISING REMEMBER THIS GUYS AND I QUOTE ” MADDEN 2009 WILL NOT HAVE ANY GLITCHES THIS YEAR” SO TRY ME!

  • BLACKFLAGZ

    PATCH OR NO PATCH MADDEN 2009 IS STILL GARBAGE! DID THEY FIX THE EVERY QB CAN ROLL OUT THING! EVEN IN QB CONTAIN QB ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO OUT RUN A D-LINEMAN! LAST NITE A GUY HAD ELI MANNING AND I HAD LB PLAYING D-LINE! I THINK ITS PRETTY GAY THAT EVERY QB ON THE GAME IS MIKE VICK! THEY ROLL OUT THROW THE BALL UP AND TOUCHDOWN! IT’S A DAMN SHAME WHEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ELI MANNING OR TOM BRADY ROLLING OUT AND BECOMING MIKE VICK! ARE THEY GOING TO PUT BACK IN STRAFE????????????????????? WHY AND THE HELL THEY TAKE IT OUT BUT MY CONTROLL SETTINGS STILL SAY “LT” IS TO STRAFE! MADDEN 2009 IS GARBAGE ONLINE! OFF-LINE IS PRETTY GOOD! OH YEAH I USED THE GLITCH PLAY SO WHAT BLAME EA SPORTS FOR DOING A GOOD JOB WITH TESTING EVERY PLAY IN THE GAME!(LOL)! WHY CAN’T BOTH THE WR AND CB BOTH JUMP IN THE AIR LIKE ON NCAA????? I DON’T WORRY ABOUT A GUY USER CATCHING ON ME CUZ I HAVE VERY GOOD STICK SKILLS! BUT ON MADDEN IT’S PRETTY DAMN ANNOYING WHEN EVERYONE WITH MADDEN 09 THIS YEAR PLAYS COVER 2 OR 3 EVERY DAMN PLAY NO MATTER IF YOU ARE RUNNING THE BALL OR NOT! MADDEN 2009 ONLINE PLAY IS VERY WEAK! TALKING BOUT REALL SIM FOOTBALL? MORE LIKE NFL BLITZ! ROUGHING THE QB AND KICKER NEVER GETS CALLED! TELL ME WHERE ARE THE BLACK REFS AT?????????????????????? AND WHY CAN’T I CLICK ON MY WR WHO IS BEING COVERED ONE ON ONE WITH A SUSPECT SAFETY AND BOMB HIS ASS??? IF RANDY MOSS WAS TO EVERY GET ONE ON ONE COVERAGE IN REAL LIFE WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN???? I DON”T CARE IF DEION SANDERS WAS COVERING HIM HIS ASS WOULD BE TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD JOB THIS YEAR EA YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW HOW TO SCREW YOUR WAY TO THE TOP! WELL NOT EA I MEANT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE MADDEN 09! BECAUSE NCAA 2009 IS THE BEST FOOTBALL GAME ON NEXT-GEN SINCE NEXT-GEN RELEASED 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO! ONLY PERSON GETS CREDIT FROM ME ON MADDEN 09 IS THE GUY WHO DID THE VISUALS ON THE GAME THIS YEAR! HELL OF A JOB! KEEP HIM AND FIRE THE OTHER NREDS LET THEM GO WORK ON THE NEXT HARRY POTTER VIDEO GAME CUZ THEY DO NOT KNO ABOUT FOOTBALL! SINCERELY- PISSED OFF FORMER MADDEN LOVER!!!!!!! OH YEAH IF THEY RESET MY RECORD ON MADDEN I WILL SUE THEY ASS FOR FALSE ADVERTISING REMEMBER THIS GUYS AND I QUOTE ” MADDEN 2009 WILL NOT HAVE ANY GLITCHES THIS YEAR” SO TRY ME!

  • Kevin

    ““but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product.”

    So sorry you released a Next Gen game with many faults. As if next years buggy game can’t wait. Another reason to release madden every 2 yrs. One year is not enough time to get a 20 year old franchise up to snuff.”

    You 2 year release people are possibly the DUMBEST people on the planet. the NFL makes it mandatory to release a game EVERY YEAR! So seriously before you go off spewing out your laptop gansta mentality realize why they cant release it every two years.

    HEAD COACH FTW, such a better game.

  • BLACKFLAGZ

    OH YEAH I FORGOT TO ALL YOU FAKE COWBOYS FANS I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA ” YOU KNOW THE REST”! YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS! DALLAS IS VERY VER VERY OVERRATED! TELL ME HOW MANY PRO BOWLERS DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME???????????????????????????????? MY GOD! EVERYBODY WUZ RIDING THE COWBOYS SO HARD LAST YR AND AGAIN THIS YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHA CAN’T WAIT TO SEE TONY HOMO GET SANDWICH BY A 350 POUND D-LINEMAN AND GET HIS ACL BLEW OUT! WHAT A CISSY! SPEAKING OF CISSY HOW ABOUT T. HOE! I MEAN TERRELL OWENS! HAHAHAHA THOSE TWOO GUYS ARE WHIPPING EACH OTHERS BUTT! OR SHARING JOCK STRAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEP DOWN INSIDE T.O. IS A WOMEN AT HEART AND HE KNOWS IT! CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS AND WE SEE DALLAS DROP THE BALL AGAIN! NEW ENGLAND VS REDSKINS IS THIS YEAR SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY DALLAS MAYBE TONY HOMO AND JESSICA SIMPSON WILL BREAKUP AND THEN MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WIN 5GAMES THIS YEAR!!!!!!!

  • Kevin

    ““but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product.”

    So sorry you released a Next Gen game with many faults. As if next years buggy game can’t wait. Another reason to release madden every 2 yrs. One year is not enough time to get a 20 year old franchise up to snuff.”

    You 2 year release people are possibly the DUMBEST people on the planet. the NFL makes it mandatory to release a game EVERY YEAR! So seriously before you go off spewing out your laptop gansta mentality realize why they cant release it every two years.

    HEAD COACH FTW, such a better game.

  • BLACKFLAGZ

    OH YEAH I FORGOT TO ALL YOU FAKE COWBOYS FANS I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA ” YOU KNOW THE REST”! YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS! DALLAS IS VERY VER VERY OVERRATED! TELL ME HOW MANY PRO BOWLERS DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME???????????????????????????????? MY GOD! EVERYBODY WUZ RIDING THE COWBOYS SO HARD LAST YR AND AGAIN THIS YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHA CAN’T WAIT TO SEE TONY HOMO GET SANDWICH BY A 350 POUND D-LINEMAN AND GET HIS ACL BLEW OUT! WHAT A CISSY! SPEAKING OF CISSY HOW ABOUT T. HOE! I MEAN TERRELL OWENS! HAHAHAHA THOSE TWOO GUYS ARE WHIPPING EACH OTHERS BUTT! OR SHARING JOCK STRAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEP DOWN INSIDE T.O. IS A WOMEN AT HEART AND HE KNOWS IT! CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS AND WE SEE DALLAS DROP THE BALL AGAIN! NEW ENGLAND VS REDSKINS IS THIS YEAR SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY DALLAS MAYBE TONY HOMO AND JESSICA SIMPSON WILL BREAKUP AND THEN MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WIN 5GAMES THIS YEAR!!!!!!!

  • jack

    nope

  • jack

    nope

  • Rod

    Hey Pasta…

    Do you know how to get around the issue with the manual subs, how to reset the subs? Is there a word of if this will be fixed? Also there are a pair of things that do not feel rigth about the game… sideline catches and the interpretation by the refreees against what you see in the replays, and the issue of WRs going out of bounds comming back and making the catch!!! Please commment Pasta!!!

  • Rod

    Hey Pasta…

    Do you know how to get around the issue with the manual subs, how to reset the subs? Is there a word of if this will be fixed? Also there are a pair of things that do not feel rigth about the game… sideline catches and the interpretation by the refreees against what you see in the replays, and the issue of WRs going out of bounds comming back and making the catch!!! Please commment Pasta!!!

  • lynn

    I rented this game for a week, didn’t really find it to be very enjoyable, and now I’m playing NFL2K5 with updated rosters.

    Having said that, though, I’m actually impressed by the response from EA to get so many issues fixed. The fact that this game DOES HAVE so many issues means I won’t ever buy this game, but I’m glad EA is stepping up to the plate to address their shortcomings. Maybe in a few years they might have something worth buying.

  • lynn

    I rented this game for a week, didn’t really find it to be very enjoyable, and now I’m playing NFL2K5 with updated rosters.

    Having said that, though, I’m actually impressed by the response from EA to get so many issues fixed. The fact that this game DOES HAVE so many issues means I won’t ever buy this game, but I’m glad EA is stepping up to the plate to address their shortcomings. Maybe in a few years they might have something worth buying.

  • Skihawks

    Roster update should be released before opening weekend when the final rosters are set.

  • Skihawks

    Roster update should be released before opening weekend when the final rosters are set.

  • http://wowriot.gameriot.com/ Jason

    We should see a roster update this week/weekend right, for the start of the season? Is that usually EA’s time frame?

  • http://wowriot.gameriot.com/ Jason

    We should see a roster update this week/weekend right, for the start of the season? Is that usually EA’s time frame?

  • Dr. Hardin Thicke

    “On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can.”

    A Side Note? I swear, seriously…that patch #2 being done and shipped off…and they’re still “working feverishly” to get the Franchise stability issue fixed? So, patch #2 coming out…and more than likely Franchise will still freeze? LoL…man…everyone just over looked that part right there…and saw the ga-zillion other “fixes”. Franchise will still be broken, even after patch 2…just like I said. Congrats EA…

  • Dr. Hardin Thicke

    “On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can.”

    A Side Note? I swear, seriously…that patch #2 being done and shipped off…and they’re still “working feverishly” to get the Franchise stability issue fixed? So, patch #2 coming out…and more than likely Franchise will still freeze? LoL…man…everyone just over looked that part right there…and saw the ga-zillion other “fixes”. Franchise will still be broken, even after patch 2…just like I said. Congrats EA…

  • dnice

    I haven’t had any bad experiences with Madden’s online play or freezes during franchise mode but the game is starting to get pretty boring. I wonder if NCAA is the better choice for someone who wants a combination of good gameplay and a playable franchise mode. I may have to rent it this week to see for myself.

  • dnice

    I haven’t had any bad experiences with Madden’s online play or freezes during franchise mode but the game is starting to get pretty boring. I wonder if NCAA is the better choice for someone who wants a combination of good gameplay and a playable franchise mode. I may have to rent it this week to see for myself.

  • Josh

    I thought the producer hit the nail on the head when he said “the longer we work on patches, the less time we have to work on Madden 2010.” WTF? It’s amazing that a multi billion dollar company can’t find the resources to work on both. If this is the case then why don’t they just take a year off to get everything up to speed. At this rate it’s just going to be an ongoing cycle. 1 year is not enough time to really develop a top notch football game. If they don’t take a year off then Madden 2010 will have issues that need to be patched & so on & so on. If EA really cared about making a flawless game then they would take a year off & just release roster updates next year. Oh but wait, EA would never take a year off being that Madden is the top selling game every year. God forbid EA loses a few dollars. Lol

  • Josh

    I thought the producer hit the nail on the head when he said “the longer we work on patches, the less time we have to work on Madden 2010.” WTF? It’s amazing that a multi billion dollar company can’t find the resources to work on both. If this is the case then why don’t they just take a year off to get everything up to speed. At this rate it’s just going to be an ongoing cycle. 1 year is not enough time to really develop a top notch football game. If they don’t take a year off then Madden 2010 will have issues that need to be patched & so on & so on. If EA really cared about making a flawless game then they would take a year off & just release roster updates next year. Oh but wait, EA would never take a year off being that Madden is the top selling game every year. God forbid EA loses a few dollars. Lol

  • pat

    man its gonna be hilarious when kids who only won because the wr direct snap glitch find all their stats re-set

  • pat

    man its gonna be hilarious when kids who only won because the wr direct snap glitch find all their stats re-set

  • Josh

    [quote comment="33389"]OH YEAH I FORGOT TO ALL YOU FAKE COWBOYS FANS I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA ” YOU KNOW THE REST”! YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS! DALLAS IS VERY VER VERY OVERRATED! TELL ME HOW MANY PRO BOWLERS DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME???????????????????????????????? MY GOD! EVERYBODY WUZ RIDING THE COWBOYS SO HARD LAST YR AND AGAIN THIS YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHA CAN’T WAIT TO SEE TONY HOMO GET SANDWICH BY A 350 POUND D-LINEMAN AND GET HIS ACL BLEW OUT! WHAT A CISSY! SPEAKING OF CISSY HOW ABOUT T. HOE! I MEAN TERRELL OWENS! HAHAHAHA THOSE TWOO GUYS ARE WHIPPING EACH OTHERS BUTT! OR SHARING JOCK STRAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEP DOWN INSIDE T.O. IS A WOMEN AT HEART AND HE KNOWS IT! CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS AND WE SEE DALLAS DROP THE BALL AGAIN! NEW ENGLAND VS REDSKINS IS THIS YEAR SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY DALLAS MAYBE TONY HOMO AND JESSICA SIMPSON WILL BREAKUP AND THEN MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WIN 5GAMES THIS YEAR!!!!!!![/quote]

    Wow man that was a handful! You know there is a thing called anger management? Just kidding bro! That was funny!

  • Josh

    [quote comment="33389"]OH YEAH I FORGOT TO ALL YOU FAKE COWBOYS FANS I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA ” YOU KNOW THE REST”! YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS! DALLAS IS VERY VER VERY OVERRATED! TELL ME HOW MANY PRO BOWLERS DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME???????????????????????????????? MY GOD! EVERYBODY WUZ RIDING THE COWBOYS SO HARD LAST YR AND AGAIN THIS YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHA CAN’T WAIT TO SEE TONY HOMO GET SANDWICH BY A 350 POUND D-LINEMAN AND GET HIS ACL BLEW OUT! WHAT A CISSY! SPEAKING OF CISSY HOW ABOUT T. HOE! I MEAN TERRELL OWENS! HAHAHAHA THOSE TWOO GUYS ARE WHIPPING EACH OTHERS BUTT! OR SHARING JOCK STRAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEP DOWN INSIDE T.O. IS A WOMEN AT HEART AND HE KNOWS IT! CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS AND WE SEE DALLAS DROP THE BALL AGAIN! NEW ENGLAND VS REDSKINS IS THIS YEAR SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY DALLAS MAYBE TONY HOMO AND JESSICA SIMPSON WILL BREAKUP AND THEN MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WIN 5GAMES THIS YEAR!!!!!!![/quote]

    Wow man that was a handful! You know there is a thing called anger management? Just kidding bro! That was funny!

  • James

    …… any news on the 3rd patch that would and should include the fact that franchise freezes, and after a couple years in franchise you cant enter the training area in franchise without it freezing

    I mean good job so far EA… (key words so far), I’m probably going to buy this game after the 2nd patch is released (I learned my lesson last year and just rented it) but those issues also need to be adressed

  • James

    …… any news on the 3rd patch that would and should include the fact that franchise freezes, and after a couple years in franchise you cant enter the training area in franchise without it freezing

    I mean good job so far EA… (key words so far), I’m probably going to buy this game after the 2nd patch is released (I learned my lesson last year and just rented it) but those issues also need to be adressed

  • Blazelore

    I’m glad there doing a patch but I just hate having to wait to start my franchise or to even really play the game seriously because its shipped broken. If they would just take a year off they could solve all their problems. Why keep putting out games and then releasing patches on things that need to get fixed??? A light bulb needs to go off in someone’s head and be like we need more time to get this right or we need a bigger team and more resources. They have the money and bought the competition so it shouldn’t be a problem.

  • Blazelore

    I’m glad there doing a patch but I just hate having to wait to start my franchise or to even really play the game seriously because its shipped broken. If they would just take a year off they could solve all their problems. Why keep putting out games and then releasing patches on things that need to get fixed??? A light bulb needs to go off in someone’s head and be like we need more time to get this right or we need a bigger team and more resources. They have the money and bought the competition so it shouldn’t be a problem.

  • Josh

    Wow EA is already making excuses for Madden 2010! Not a good sign! Typical BS from EA..Somehow I’m not surprised.

  • Josh

    Wow EA is already making excuses for Madden 2010! Not a good sign! Typical BS from EA..Somehow I’m not surprised.

  • kc10785

    [quote comment="33389"]OH YEAH I FORGOT TO ALL YOU FAKE COWBOYS FANS I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA ” YOU KNOW THE REST”! YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS! DALLAS IS VERY VER VERY OVERRATED! TELL ME HOW MANY PRO BOWLERS DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME???????????????????????????????? MY GOD! EVERYBODY WUZ RIDING THE COWBOYS SO HARD LAST YR AND AGAIN THIS YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHA CAN’T WAIT TO SEE TONY HOMO GET SANDWICH BY A 350 POUND D-LINEMAN AND GET HIS ACL BLEW OUT! WHAT A CISSY! SPEAKING OF CISSY HOW ABOUT T. HOE! I MEAN TERRELL OWENS! HAHAHAHA THOSE TWOO GUYS ARE WHIPPING EACH OTHERS BUTT! OR SHARING JOCK STRAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEP DOWN INSIDE T.O. IS A WOMEN AT HEART AND HE KNOWS IT! CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS AND WE SEE DALLAS DROP THE BALL AGAIN! NEW ENGLAND VS REDSKINS IS THIS YEAR SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY DALLAS MAYBE TONY HOMO AND JESSICA SIMPSON WILL BREAKUP AND THEN MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WIN 5GAMES THIS YEAR!!!!!!![/quote]

    give this guy some french fries cuz he is real salty. u probley some garbage specially if u letting eli picking up rushing yards it’s your scheme.Only a sorry redskin fan will mentiong the dallas cowboys in a patch thread calm down u make ur fellow redskin fans look bad

  • kc10785

    [quote comment="33389"]OH YEAH I FORGOT TO ALL YOU FAKE COWBOYS FANS I GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA ” YOU KNOW THE REST”! YOU GUYS ARE CLOWNS! DALLAS IS VERY VER VERY OVERRATED! TELL ME HOW MANY PRO BOWLERS DOES IT TAKE TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME???????????????????????????????? MY GOD! EVERYBODY WUZ RIDING THE COWBOYS SO HARD LAST YR AND AGAIN THIS YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHA CAN’T WAIT TO SEE TONY HOMO GET SANDWICH BY A 350 POUND D-LINEMAN AND GET HIS ACL BLEW OUT! WHAT A CISSY! SPEAKING OF CISSY HOW ABOUT T. HOE! I MEAN TERRELL OWENS! HAHAHAHA THOSE TWOO GUYS ARE WHIPPING EACH OTHERS BUTT! OR SHARING JOCK STRAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEP DOWN INSIDE T.O. IS A WOMEN AT HEART AND HE KNOWS IT! CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS AND WE SEE DALLAS DROP THE BALL AGAIN! NEW ENGLAND VS REDSKINS IS THIS YEAR SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY DALLAS MAYBE TONY HOMO AND JESSICA SIMPSON WILL BREAKUP AND THEN MAYBE YOU GUYS MIGHT WIN 5GAMES THIS YEAR!!!!!!![/quote]

    give this guy some french fries cuz he is real salty. u probley some garbage specially if u letting eli picking up rushing yards it’s your scheme.Only a sorry redskin fan will mentiong the dallas cowboys in a patch thread calm down u make ur fellow redskin fans look bad

  • kc10785

    ^^^oh yeah i am a dallas fan been one since i knew what football is and u can get spank online with this overrated team GT= kc10785 36W 10L

  • kc10785

    ^^^oh yeah i am a dallas fan been one since i knew what football is and u can get spank online with this overrated team GT= kc10785 36W 10L

  • HellRell

    i know people r happy for this release and updates. But seriously arent these Bugs/glitches somethn that shuuda been fixed B4 the games release? This is sad!

  • HellRell

    i know people r happy for this release and updates. But seriously arent these Bugs/glitches somethn that shuuda been fixed B4 the games release? This is sad!

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