Full Details on Patch #2 for Madden 09

by pastapadre
Posted August 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm

Details on items that have been fixed with the second patch for Madden 09 are the topic of a brand new blog posted by producer Ian Cummings on the Madden 09 website. Included are the disconnects that have been plaguing online, franchise progression, fixed exploits including the WR Direct Snap and Deep Ball glitches, field degradation, and gameplay improvements. Most of the gripes consumers have had with the game look as though they’ll be addressed in the coming patch. Not sure there is much more you can ask for out of this.

The work on the patch has been completed and is being submitted to MS and Sony on Tuesday. This puts the time frame to expect it to arrive still at least a few weeks out. Continue on to read the full list of issues and workarounds.

1. Kicking play disconnect: If two opponents play a game with two different camera angles, in any situation where a game winning or tying kick was to be made, a disconnect could occur. “ActionCam” forces the game to go into slow-motion to add drama to these late kicks, but unfortunately the Classic camera does not, thus forcing the “disconnect”. This has been fixed…all cameras can still be used as well.

Workaround until the patch: If possible, ensure that you and your opponent have the same camera type chosen before starting an online game.

2. Stability issues in the play call / halftime highlights / postgame highlights screens (especially in Franchise mode after training games): This was a hard one to track down as not everyone was seeing it , we did find the issue however with some Instant Replay / cache corruption, and have a fix ready for patch 2.

Workaround until the patch: Save and re-boot after any point where you have entered the game. We learned that the likelihood of this issue appearing is magnified after multiple loads into and out of the game engine. From what we’ve seen so far, people that have tried playing only one game at a time (or even one Franchise training session at a time), and saving/rebooting afterwards, have had zero crashes.

3. Stability issues with Madden IQ end of game popup: This has been fixed.

Workaround until the patch: Always choose “No” at the Madden IQ end of game popup.

4. “WR direct snap” exploit: Cheesers found an exploit to direct snap to a WR for easy short yardage gain. Not only are we fixing this play (i.e. we aren’t removing it), we are also going to be re-setting records for anyone with a winning record that has been found to be using this play.

5. Franchise Progression / Regression (or lack thereof): The lack of higher numbers was a tuning value that I think everyone agreed was just too low. This has been juiced up so you should see more realistic progression now.

6. Edited players don’t progress: Players were not progressing after their jersey number (or pretty much any other attribute). This has been fixed.

7. Stability issue when exiting Madden ’93 in CE version: This has been fixed.

8. Deep ball glitch: Some enterprising gamers found a way to throw a deep ball while crossing the LOS and hit a receiver wide open at a decent rate. We addressed this by making sure the DB will no longer break on the ball when the QB crosses the line while throwing.

9. CPU running out of bounds: This bug appears when the CPU tries to switch hands while running to the sidelines. This is fixed for patch 2.

10. Penalty sliders ineffective: A common complaint from the hardcore community was the lack of effect from the penalty sliders. We increased these substantially for patch 2.

11. Field degradation: Another common complaint was the lack of field degradation. Our effect was very subtle, which was also getting overshadowed by our lighting and post effects, so we increased this effect for the patch.

12. Stability issue with the Eagles and a full ring meter: We found and fixed a rare issue where the gamer could run into stability issues while using the Eagles in mini-game with a ring meter that was completely full.

13. Play call screen hitch: We found and fixed a bug that was causing a noticeable hitch when exiting the play call screen

14. Prevent Defense issue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders sharing a deep zone/prevent assignment would loosen their coverage (because they thought the other guy was covering for them), which allowed the receiver to get behind them even though they were in Prevent.

15. Brett Favre stats: With the late addition of Brett Favre, we were not able to get his Career and Season statistics into the game for the roster update. This has now been added for patch 2.

16. Defensive Preplay Mis-cue: We found and fixed an issue where defenders would leave their man wide open in a Cover 3.

17. CPU quick-snap: A very common complaint on the forums was the speed at which the CPU snapped the ball. We added a random length of time (no less than 5 seconds) for the CPU to wait and even make pre-play adjustments.

18. Online playbook switch: We found and fixed an issue where playbooks were re-setting to the defaults after the playbook select popup was closed.

The patch is being tested as I write this and will be sent off for verification in the morning, so we are targeting less than a 3 week turnaround from today for this to hit the general public. (Woohoo!) We will also make sure to provide updates as the patch progresses through the 3rd party approval process. As a side note, as of this moment there have been no changes to database schema, so you won’t have to re-start your Franchise or delete any files.

It makes us very stoked to be able to make this many changes for a patch, and do them based directly on community feedback. There are always going to be folks that are upset if what they felt was a top issue wasn’t addressed, but I’ll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010. The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year’s product. On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out. We will update on that issue as soon as we can. As for the rest of the items, I personally feel that we have hit a very good balance of top items because many of these issues can actually detract from an enjoyable experience, which is obviously the last thing we want.

And now that this patch is nearly out the door, I figured I’d drop some more good news… We have officially started building the “Sim Madden Gamer” DLC pack, which includes Accelerated Clock, a “Classic” Controller Configuration, CPU Sliders, and Community Gamerpics for 360. I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them.

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destroyer

I think it’s a damn shame that u don’t want to play a ” next gen ” football game that u spend good money on, only to have so many glitches & green grass while ur players r covered in mud. not even field degredation? come on, what gayness!!! get the shit right or don’t bother. as for your excuse that for the the time your spending on 09 working out the bugs, your taking time out of making 10 as good or better is a fipping copout!!!!! DON’T PISS ON MY HEAD & TRY TO TELL ME IT’S RAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
destroyer

I think it’s a damn shame that u don’t want to play a ” next gen ” football game that u spend good money on, only to have so many glitches & green grass while ur players r covered in mud. not even field degredation? come on, what gayness!!! get the shit right or don’t bother. as for your excuse that for the the time your spending on 09 working out the bugs, your taking time out of making 10 as good or better is a fipping copout!!!!! DON’T PISS ON MY HEAD & TRY TO TELL ME IT’S RAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kc10785

[quote comment="33417"]i know people r happy for this release and updates. But seriously arent these Bugs/glitches somethn that shuuda been fixed B4 the games release? This is sad![/quote]

every game has glitches from NES to PS3 days at least there fixing it now and halfway threw the year.We have a whole year tell the new madden.At least they putting in effort the worst bug out of all these games was NCAA 09 online dynasty thing.They fix it and now yall happy .Let madden team put in the work.Yall are spoiled b4 internet gaming yall was stuck with a game all year.Be pation and look at the glass half full
kc10785

[quote comment="33417"]i know people r happy for this release and updates. But seriously arent these Bugs/glitches somethn that shuuda been fixed B4 the games release? This is sad![/quote]

every game has glitches from NES to PS3 days at least there fixing it now and halfway threw the year.We have a whole year tell the new madden.At least they putting in effort the worst bug out of all these games was NCAA 09 online dynasty thing.They fix it and now yall happy .Let madden team put in the work.Yall are spoiled b4 internet gaming yall was stuck with a game all year.Be pation and look at the glass half full
dillfav

Take that picture down, I hate it………
dillfav

Take that picture down, I hate it………
Ryan

Hey Pasta completely different topic here…they did a great job with the number of uniforms in this game, but is there any chance they will add the Broncos home uniforms (white pants). It’s the only team that they didn’t get right, any chance? Thanks for the update.
Ryan

Hey Pasta completely different topic here…they did a great job with the number of uniforms in this game, but is there any chance they will add the Broncos home uniforms (white pants). It’s the only team that they didn’t get right, any chance? Thanks for the update.
Andrew

Anyone know when roster update #2 is released?
Andrew

Anyone know when roster update #2 is released?
James

[quote comment="33421"]Hey Pasta completely different topic here…they did a great job with the number of uniforms in this game, but is there any chance they will add the Broncos home uniforms (white pants). It’s the only team that they didn’t get right, any chance? Thanks for the update.[/quote]

yea I completely agree… if its one thing I hate when it comes to Madden and also Ncaa is when football season starts and I’m watching a game and the teams wearing a variation of there uniform (for example the Rams with the white jersey and blue pants) and I hop on Madden and the uniforms not there… it’s been a pet peeve of mine for years now and I’ve been saying that they need to do an option where you can choose the pants, jersey, and socks instead of having set alternates
James

[quote comment="33421"]Hey Pasta completely different topic here…they did a great job with the number of uniforms in this game, but is there any chance they will add the Broncos home uniforms (white pants). It’s the only team that they didn’t get right, any chance? Thanks for the update.[/quote]

yea I completely agree… if its one thing I hate when it comes to Madden and also Ncaa is when football season starts and I’m watching a game and the teams wearing a variation of there uniform (for example the Rams with the white jersey and blue pants) and I hop on Madden and the uniforms not there… it’s been a pet peeve of mine for years now and I’ve been saying that they need to do an option where you can choose the pants, jersey, and socks instead of having set alternates
Ill Will

WOW A LOT OF HATE TOWARDS MADDEN THIS IS ALL REAL SIMPLE MADDEN IS A VIDEO GAME A PIECE OF SOFTWARE WHICH MEANS ITS GONNA HAVE FLAWS NO COMPANY CAN CONTROL THAT ALL GAMES GET PATCHES FROM GTA 4, HALO, RESISTENCE, GEARS OF WAR, ETC ETC ETC EA IS MAKING ATTEMPTS TO FIX THESE ISSUES THEY COULD EASILY NOT DO SH*T ABOUT IT BC LETS BE HONEST THEY’VE MADE THEIR $$$ BUT INSTEAD THEY’RE STILL WORKING TO MAKE MADDEN 09 THE BEST GAME IT CAN BE. BLACKFAGZ I HAVEN’T HAD A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE SCRAMBLING ON ME SO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF SCRUB ADAPT TO THE GAME DON’T THINK YOU CAN DO THE SAME SH*T YOU WERE DOING IN PREVIOUS MADDENS & GETTING MAD BC IT DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE GETTING SCRAMBLED ON IS NOT A GLITCH THE DIRECT WR BS IS YOU’RE A SCRUB DEAL WITH IT ITS NOT A BIG DEAL IN THE END YOU’RE JUST NOT GOOD AT A VIDEO GAME BUT DON’T TALK DOWN ON IT BC YOU SUCK AT. NOW TO STRAFING OBVIOUSLY EA SAW STRAFING BEING USED AS A WEAPON JUST LIKE BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY TOOK THE HURDLING OUT OF THE GAME IF A FEATURE BECOMES AN EXPLOIT IT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT UNTIL IT CAN BE REIMPLEMENTED AS THE HURDLE WAS. NCAA IS GETTING A LOT OF LOVE BUT THE LACK OF A PASS RUSH REALLY TURNED ME AWAY WHICH MEANS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS IT BETTER THAN MADDEN!!! BACK TO THE SUBJECT MADDEN IS AN ANNUAL RELEASE & EVERY YEAR PEOPLE EXPECT PERFECTION WHICH IS OUTRAGEOUS ALL I WANT IS IMPROVEMENT AND I FEEL EVERY YEAR THEY’VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS DON’T BLAME THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO CHEAT THERE’S NOT A SINGLE GAME THATS AN EXCEPTION LETS APPLAUD NOT DOWNPLAY MADDEN 2002 WASN’T PERFECT BUT IT WAS A DAMN FINE GAME AND SO IS 09
Ill Will

WOW A LOT OF HATE TOWARDS MADDEN THIS IS ALL REAL SIMPLE MADDEN IS A VIDEO GAME A PIECE OF SOFTWARE WHICH MEANS ITS GONNA HAVE FLAWS NO COMPANY CAN CONTROL THAT ALL GAMES GET PATCHES FROM GTA 4, HALO, RESISTENCE, GEARS OF WAR, ETC ETC ETC EA IS MAKING ATTEMPTS TO FIX THESE ISSUES THEY COULD EASILY NOT DO SH*T ABOUT IT BC LETS BE HONEST THEY’VE MADE THEIR $$$ BUT INSTEAD THEY’RE STILL WORKING TO MAKE MADDEN 09 THE BEST GAME IT CAN BE. BLACKFAGZ I HAVEN’T HAD A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE SCRAMBLING ON ME SO SPEAK FOR YOURSELF SCRUB ADAPT TO THE GAME DON’T THINK YOU CAN DO THE SAME SH*T YOU WERE DOING IN PREVIOUS MADDENS & GETTING MAD BC IT DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE GETTING SCRAMBLED ON IS NOT A GLITCH THE DIRECT WR BS IS YOU’RE A SCRUB DEAL WITH IT ITS NOT A BIG DEAL IN THE END YOU’RE JUST NOT GOOD AT A VIDEO GAME BUT DON’T TALK DOWN ON IT BC YOU SUCK AT. NOW TO STRAFING OBVIOUSLY EA SAW STRAFING BEING USED AS A WEAPON JUST LIKE BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THEY TOOK THE HURDLING OUT OF THE GAME IF A FEATURE BECOMES AN EXPLOIT IT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT UNTIL IT CAN BE REIMPLEMENTED AS THE HURDLE WAS. NCAA IS GETTING A LOT OF LOVE BUT THE LACK OF A PASS RUSH REALLY TURNED ME AWAY WHICH MEANS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM IS IT BETTER THAN MADDEN!!! BACK TO THE SUBJECT MADDEN IS AN ANNUAL RELEASE & EVERY YEAR PEOPLE EXPECT PERFECTION WHICH IS OUTRAGEOUS ALL I WANT IS IMPROVEMENT AND I FEEL EVERY YEAR THEY’VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS DON’T BLAME THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO CHEAT THERE’S NOT A SINGLE GAME THATS AN EXCEPTION LETS APPLAUD NOT DOWNPLAY MADDEN 2002 WASN’T PERFECT BUT IT WAS A DAMN FINE GAME AND SO IS 09
kwas676

[quote comment="33404"]I thought the producer hit the nail on the head when he said “the longer we work on patches, the less time we have to work on Madden 2010.” WTF? It’s amazing that a multi billion dollar company can’t find the resources to work on both. If this is the case then why don’t they just take a year off to get everything up to speed. At this rate it’s just going to be an ongoing cycle. 1 year is not enough time to really develop a top notch football game. If they don’t take a year off then Madden 2010 will have issues that need to be patched & so on & so on. If EA really cared about making a flawless game then they would take a year off & just release roster updates next year. Oh but wait, EA would never take a year off being that Madden is the top selling game every year. God forbid EA loses a few dollars. Lol[/quote]

You know how stupid you sound when you sign a contract with a sports league you obligated to produce a game every year, EA isn’t the only one making money off madden. Every sports games has glitches whether is made by EA, 2k, Sony or etc. so get over it.
kwas676

[quote comment="33404"]I thought the producer hit the nail on the head when he said “the longer we work on patches, the less time we have to work on Madden 2010.” WTF? It’s amazing that a multi billion dollar company can’t find the resources to work on both. If this is the case then why don’t they just take a year off to get everything up to speed. At this rate it’s just going to be an ongoing cycle. 1 year is not enough time to really develop a top notch football game. If they don’t take a year off then Madden 2010 will have issues that need to be patched & so on & so on. If EA really cared about making a flawless game then they would take a year off & just release roster updates next year. Oh but wait, EA would never take a year off being that Madden is the top selling game every year. God forbid EA loses a few dollars. Lol[/quote]

You know how stupid you sound when you sign a contract with a sports league you obligated to produce a game every year, EA isn’t the only one making money off madden. Every sports games has glitches whether is made by EA, 2k, Sony or etc. so get over it.
Ryan

[quote comment="33367"]when are they gonna fix WR screen plays. Every time I throw to my WR, they run in the opposite direction of which I am pointing after the catch, causing them to run right into defenders…or when I catch a pass on a hook route, they continue their animation in the wrong direction instead of turning upfield!!! So frustrating sometimes that these little things that never get ironed out…………[/quote]

You aren’t waiting for your wide recievers to stop their routes. I had the same problem on hook routes, wait for them to fully come to a stop and then throw and you’ll be fine.
Ryan

[quote comment="33367"]when are they gonna fix WR screen plays. Every time I throw to my WR, they run in the opposite direction of which I am pointing after the catch, causing them to run right into defenders…or when I catch a pass on a hook route, they continue their animation in the wrong direction instead of turning upfield!!! So frustrating sometimes that these little things that never get ironed out…………[/quote]

You aren’t waiting for your wide recievers to stop their routes. I had the same problem on hook routes, wait for them to fully come to a stop and then throw and you’ll be fine.
stan

please don’t ask for patch#3 because there are still a lot of bugs left in 09. otherwise they will be forced to release 2010 with half the nfl teams on it because of time constraints.
stan

please don’t ask for patch#3 because there are still a lot of bugs left in 09. otherwise they will be forced to release 2010 with half the nfl teams on it because of time constraints.
rondoman

Pasta is nothing but an EA apologist in every sense of the word. He pretty much works for them at this point. He is rarely ever harsh on them and every game that EA puts out is pretty much better than the competition is his eyes.

And to the EA fanboys that state every game has glitches, yeah they do, but not in the sheer amount that Madden has, nor do most games have glitches that are so important and vital to gameplay.

In the months leading up to Madden all we heard was how they were gonna fix this, and make this and that better. And yet, here we are with an unfinished game that needs significant patches. What about the people that don’t have internet access (a small number I realize)? They are pretty much screwed over as well.

And then for the producer to state that patches for 09 affect 2010 Madden is pathetic. Why even say anything at all unless they are already feeding us BS as to why next years version will be more of the same unfinished crap.

I have played Madden since 1994, and after this year, I am done. I rented the game this year instead of actually buying it, and thank god I didn’t buy into the hype. EA rests on the fact that they are the only NFL game in town and that they do not have to worry about anyone buying another NFL game. So they can release unfinished/untested crap and worry about it later cuz the diehard NFL fans will plunk down there 60 bucks no matter what.

Screw you EA, you lost me as a fan until you can prove that you are the world class company that you claim to be.
rondoman

Pasta is nothing but an EA apologist in every sense of the word. He pretty much works for them at this point. He is rarely ever harsh on them and every game that EA puts out is pretty much better than the competition is his eyes.

And to the EA fanboys that state every game has glitches, yeah they do, but not in the sheer amount that Madden has, nor do most games have glitches that are so important and vital to gameplay.

In the months leading up to Madden all we heard was how they were gonna fix this, and make this and that better. And yet, here we are with an unfinished game that needs significant patches. What about the people that don’t have internet access (a small number I realize)? They are pretty much screwed over as well.

And then for the producer to state that patches for 09 affect 2010 Madden is pathetic. Why even say anything at all unless they are already feeding us BS as to why next years version will be more of the same unfinished crap.

I have played Madden since 1994, and after this year, I am done. I rented the game this year instead of actually buying it, and thank god I didn’t buy into the hype. EA rests on the fact that they are the only NFL game in town and that they do not have to worry about anyone buying another NFL game. So they can release unfinished/untested crap and worry about it later cuz the diehard NFL fans will plunk down there 60 bucks no matter what.

Screw you EA, you lost me as a fan until you can prove that you are the world class company that you claim to be.
MoteLLparty

pasta what does the franchise progression patch exactly entail? is this just stats…or we we talkin attribute pro/regression
MoteLLparty

pasta what does the franchise progression patch exactly entail? is this just stats…or we we talkin attribute pro/regression
Andrew

rondoman – I think I speak for most when I say “STFU”. Nobody cares that you aren’t going to buy Madden anymore. Furthermore, I’m personally glad you’re gone so I don’t have to keep avoiding your 7-23 75% DNF ass.

BTW, why are you complaining about people with no internet access when obviously you have the internet? Sounds to me like you’re tired of not having a girlfriend or a job, and you’re taking it out on Madden.

Madden is a good game and just cause you suck at it doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Andrew

rondoman – I think I speak for most when I say “STFU”. Nobody cares that you aren’t going to buy Madden anymore. Furthermore, I’m personally glad you’re gone so I don’t have to keep avoiding your 7-23 75% DNF ass.

BTW, why are you complaining about people with no internet access when obviously you have the internet? Sounds to me like you’re tired of not having a girlfriend or a job, and you’re taking it out on Madden.

Madden is a good game and just cause you suck at it doesn’t mean it’s bad.
rondoman

[quote comment="33443"]rondoman – I think I speak for most when I say “STFU”. Nobody cares that you aren’t going to buy Madden anymore. Furthermore, I’m personally glad you’re gone so I don’t have to keep avoiding your 7-23 75% DNF ass.

BTW, why are you complaining about people with no internet access when obviously you have the internet? Sounds to me like you’re tired of not having a girlfriend or a job, and you’re taking it out on Madden.

Madden is a good game and just cause you suck at it doesn’t mean it’s bad.[/quote]

Actually I have internet but I do not play online. So your first point is garbage.

I do have a gf, and a job, in fact I am writing this from work so, wrong again buddy.

And, madden is really not a good game. It may seem like it to you cuz it is the only game in town, but really, after you get past all the glitz and glamor, and actually get into the meat of the game, you realize it is a subpar football game.
rondoman

[quote comment="33443"]rondoman – I think I speak for most when I say “STFU”. Nobody cares that you aren’t going to buy Madden anymore. Furthermore, I’m personally glad you’re gone so I don’t have to keep avoiding your 7-23 75% DNF ass.

BTW, why are you complaining about people with no internet access when obviously you have the internet? Sounds to me like you’re tired of not having a girlfriend or a job, and you’re taking it out on Madden.

Madden is a good game and just cause you suck at it doesn’t mean it’s bad.[/quote]

Actually I have internet but I do not play online. So your first point is garbage.

I do have a gf, and a job, in fact I am writing this from work so, wrong again buddy.

And, madden is really not a good game. It may seem like it to you cuz it is the only game in town, but really, after you get past all the glitz and glamor, and actually get into the meat of the game, you realize it is a subpar football game.
James

This years madden is a good game… the problem is there are so many glitches that make it sub par, I did the same thing you did and rented it and I’m a huge franchise guy… I barely play any other mode. And this year just like lasts has so many glitches in it it’s unplayable for me, but thats just my opinion.

And there’s no need to bash pasta and EA because EA has some decent sports titles it’s just Madden (there “bread and butter”) is glitchy
James

This years madden is a good game… the problem is there are so many glitches that make it sub par, I did the same thing you did and rented it and I’m a huge franchise guy… I barely play any other mode. And this year just like lasts has so many glitches in it it’s unplayable for me, but thats just my opinion.

And there’s no need to bash pasta and EA because EA has some decent sports titles it’s just Madden (there “bread and butter”) is glitchy
stan

pasta had the game early. there’s no way that his game didn’t freeze. he was just afraid to tell everybody cuz EA might not let him in their front door and take pictures with them next year. how about a heads up next time.
stan

pasta had the game early. there’s no way that his game didn’t freeze. he was just afraid to tell everybody cuz EA might not let him in their front door and take pictures with them next year. how about a heads up next time.
Gary

Ian CUMmings
Gary

Ian CUMmings
http://naptownsfinest.com/ Sam

So will my loss to a person who used the WR glitch (almost every play but still only beat me by 3) be erased or will his record only be erased?

Great additions. That is about same amount of changes they made from 07 to 08.
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

I had the game a whole what, like four days early? There were a lot of people who had the game at the same time. So Please. No it didn’t freeze on me once. My understanding is that the freezing is being experienced by some but not by others. I believe they’ve addressed that in the upcoming patch.

I do find it ironic that I’ve been more down on things, have written articles expressing frustration with problems (Madden’s poor online play, NCAA dynasty problems, random thoughts post had several issues listed), had community days where I purposely avoided any sense that I was hyping a game (unlike some other places), had the Live community day where I was the least glowing of anyone who was in attendance, and I’ve been less excited by most everything than ever before. Hell just recently I’ve turned down attending two different events for various reasons. Yet it seems that some people are itching to get their shots in on me again. It’s more amusing than anything to me now.
http://naptownsfinest.com Sam

So will my loss to a person who used the WR glitch (almost every play but still only beat me by 3) be erased or will his record only be erased?

Great additions. That is about same amount of changes they made from 07 to 08.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

I had the game a whole what, like four days early? There were a lot of people who had the game at the same time. So Please. No it didn’t freeze on me once. My understanding is that the freezing is being experienced by some but not by others. I believe they’ve addressed that in the upcoming patch.

I do find it ironic that I’ve been more down on things, have written articles expressing frustration with problems (Madden’s poor online play, NCAA dynasty problems, random thoughts post had several issues listed), had community days where I purposely avoided any sense that I was hyping a game (unlike some other places), had the Live community day where I was the least glowing of anyone who was in attendance, and I’ve been less excited by most everything than ever before. Hell just recently I’ve turned down attending two different events for various reasons. Yet it seems that some people are itching to get their shots in on me again. It’s more amusing than anything to me now.
rdelizo35

Pastapadre would not ever be the sort of person to deliberately hide anything from anyone. Furthermore, he’s not an “EA apologist” and he does not work for them. To say that the guy is not critical or to even insinuate that EA has him on their payroll is ridiculous because Padre has been nothing but upfront and honest in his critiques about games, regardless of who makes them.

Expressing your opinion is fine, there’s nothing wrong with that. However, all this name calling and bashing is not constructive at all. I’m sure that all of you will agree that intelligent conversation and debate are healthy. Name calling and mudslinging are nothing but juvenile tactics that should never ever be used, even as a last resort.
MoteLLparty

pasta RE….im a big franchise guy

what does the franchise progression patch exactly entail? is this just stats…or we we talkin attribute pro/regression

can you just briefly explain?
rdelizo35

Pastapadre would not ever be the sort of person to deliberately hide anything from anyone. Furthermore, he’s not an “EA apologist” and he does not work for them. To say that the guy is not critical or to even insinuate that EA has him on their payroll is ridiculous because Padre has been nothing but upfront and honest in his critiques about games, regardless of who makes them.

Expressing your opinion is fine, there’s nothing wrong with that. However, all this name calling and bashing is not constructive at all. I’m sure that all of you will agree that intelligent conversation and debate are healthy. Name calling and mudslinging are nothing but juvenile tactics that should never ever be used, even as a last resort.
MoteLLparty

pasta RE….im a big franchise guy

what does the franchise progression patch exactly entail? is this just stats…or we we talkin attribute pro/regression

can you just briefly explain?
kc10785

[quote comment="33450"]pasta had the game early. there’s no way that his game didn’t freeze. he was just afraid to tell everybody cuz EA might not let him in their front door and take pictures with them next year. how about a heads up next time.[/quote]

i had the game a week early and my game didn’t freeze neither.Pasta been posting all the things he have seen positive and negitive so stop with the bashing u don’t like the reports and reviews go to another site
kc10785

[quote comment="33450"]pasta had the game early. there’s no way that his game didn’t freeze. he was just afraid to tell everybody cuz EA might not let him in their front door and take pictures with them next year. how about a heads up next time.[/quote]

i had the game a week early and my game didn’t freeze neither.Pasta been posting all the things he have seen positive and negitive so stop with the bashing u don’t like the reports and reviews go to another site
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

I’ll try and find out details on how the progression has been adjusted and I’ll update when I have that.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

I’ll try and find out details on how the progression has been adjusted and I’ll update when I have that.
MoteLLparty

thank you-appreciate it
MoteLLparty

thank you-appreciate it
rondoman

Pasta,

I want to apologize to you for my little rant above. I take that back, and it was immature of me.

You have done nothing but help us out so I want to say sorry, I am just frustrated with the bugs and glitches in this game which IMO keep it from being one of the best sports games of all time.

Once again, sorry, I take back the first paragraph above . . . .
rondoman

Pasta,

I want to apologize to you for my little rant above. I take that back, and it was immature of me.

You have done nothing but help us out so I want to say sorry, I am just frustrated with the bugs and glitches in this game which IMO keep it from being one of the best sports games of all time.

Once again, sorry, I take back the first paragraph above . . . .