Madden 09 Roster Update #2 MIA
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Never would I have imagined the news of the second roster update for Madden 09 would turn into such a dramatic event. With EA stating that the update would be out sometime today people were ready to grab it just in time for the opening Sunday slate of NFL games. As time passed and the possibility of it not arriving today became more and more apparent the frustration erupted resulting in the second most commented article in the history of the site. While much of that sentiment is justified some certainly took things over the line though it does raise an interesting discussion.
Last year the updates came at about a rate of once every three weeks which seemed sufficient then. It was just a stretch from mid-November to early January where no updates came that killed that momentum. The second update for Madden 08 came on the Friday before opening Sunday. Not having the rosters this year by now seems to have hit a real sore point in the community.
We are heading into the releases of NBA Live 09 and NBA 2K9 both of which are providing updated rosters in a unique but advanced way. Live uses its 365 which will update the game on a daily basis with not just transactions and starters/reserves but also tendencies and streaks. NBA 2K9’s big news appears to have leaked in that the game will update anytime a change is made to the rosters on NBA.com, though this would seem to be limited to just the rosters and not ratings or anything else along those lines.
As consumers become accustomed to this they are going to expect more frequent and more accurate roster updates in other titles as well. Given the popularity and exposure of one like Madden that is certainly a reasonable expectation to have. Madden has the NFL license so if it were to come to something like drawing the rosters off the official depth charts on NFL.com that shouldn’t seem like a far fetched idea. They would still have to go in and make adjustments to areas such as ratings and player appearance manually but the resources should be there to make it a more fluid process.
Once the season begins the roster updates become more about ratings and injuries than about player movement. What makes this second update so anticipated is that there are a lot of those. Hopefully they get it out ASAP and evaluate better ways to offer the roster updates next year.
September 7, 2008 at 3:38 pm
sdot, with an intellectual prowess such as you possess, it is evident that you will die alone.
September 7, 2008 at 3:41 pm
cool I was born alone 2
i’m sure YOu & ur LIFE PARTNER will die at da same exact time probably wit ur FACE in his LAP
September 7, 2008 at 3:45 pm
[quote comment="35240"]@kaine people leaving da stadium early N order 2 do dat dey would hav 2 1st improve da graphix of da CROWD you see how da FANS look TERRIBLE probably da WORST lookin FANS in any of da NEXT GEN SPORTS gms[/quote]
Okay sdot. Sorry I’ve been an a$$ to everybody. I’m frusterated. You are right. But with lets say EA sold only 10,000 games at 60 dollars each. That’s like $600,000 in sales. Tell me they couldn’t upgrade with that much money. They actually sold over 1 mil. That’s at least $60 million in profit. See my point?
September 7, 2008 at 3:53 pm
NO i’m agreeing wit wut YOU said dey should hav dat N da game i’m sayin look at NBA Live crowd or NHL 09 crowd & den look at MADDEN which is there BIGGEST game & yet dey put in da least amount of effort on there overall atmosphere
ie CROWD lookin TERRIBLE no chain gang no refs poorly detailed playas on da sidelines no coaches
September 7, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Kaine you seem to be a bit confused. Just because EA sells A amount of games at B price does not mean they make A times B in profit. You have to factor in the developmental costs, the salaries of the workers, and the fact that just because the game costs $60 bucks in store does not mean that EA makes 60. The store has to make money too. So although EA does make profit on Madden most likely, it is not as simple of an equation as you imply, the profit they make may be deemed to be of better use somewhere else in the company in their mind.
September 7, 2008 at 3:59 pm
[quote comment="35236"]Okay. I know this is a thread on roster updates. But can I also get some opinions about other things in the game? Like the HOF rosters and their bios and music. I would have to say that I could do without these. If they would, implement other things in the game. Like for example if your team sucks, less attendees show up for the game or the people start walking out of the stadium after poor performances. That would be cool. Being able to make your own plays. Better yet, what if , at the end of the season, the offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator that you signed to a contract depended on the plays you have on offense or defense the next season. All these, in my opinion, would be great. However, the basics have to be done correctly first. Which leads me back to the DAMN ROSTER UPDATES. Whew. Sorry. Had to vent.[/quote]
I understand where youre coming from… this game could do so much to make this game AMAZING but what did they do this year?… they added a feature that puts a number on how good you play and give you the option to REWIND and do a play all over again and add some camera bulbs… yes this game is a huge improvement but theres so much missing and ppl are frustrated and after this roster update BS ppl complain about other things just because the roster update is only the tip of the iceberg… EA really needs to step it up because sooner or later alot of ppl arent going to buy there game and they wont be able to sit back and count there money.
Also one question… is there anyone at EA who plays football or watches it because everytime i go into madden forums me and other ppl who have played and follow football all have very similar ideas that could make the game that much better… what i dont understand is if the majority of the consumers come up with the same ideas how does NO ONE at EA pick up or think of the same ideas… before madden 09 came out i never heard a madden fan say “we need a feature to rewind a play and play it again”… again just ranting
September 7, 2008 at 4:02 pm
[quote comment="34930"]Another letdown by EA ,Sports, are we yet suprised??
EA is simply out-of-touch with the community.
I’m only playing Madden09 unitl 2ksports NBA 2k9 is out. 2k sports may not be as big a company as EA, but they are way more in-touch with the gaming community.
They know things like presentation means alot to us.
And no, I’m not a fan of 2k sports Football either. But I do marvel over the presentation in 2k5 football.
They understand that small little details is very important, unlike EA who just now put in FG nets…[/quote]
100% agreed! It amazes me that not only is EA a multibillion dollar company, but they also own the NFL liscence and the can’t even get a timely roster update out before the start of the season. Not to mention their lack of ability to pay attention to details in the game. 2009 & the sidelines still look like crap? No refs or chaingangs? Really EA? I know there will be those EA fanboys that’ll say “Well don’t buy the game then”. Well that’s easier said then done being that Madden is the only NFL game available. Get your sh*t together EA! “If your not gonna take care of business, stop takin up space!”
September 7, 2008 at 4:12 pm
[quote comment="35246"]Kaine you seem to be a bit confused. Just because EA sells A amount of games at B price does not mean they make A times B in profit. You have to factor in the developmental costs, the salaries of the workers, and the fact that just because the game costs $60 bucks in store does not mean that EA makes 60. The store has to make money too. So although EA does make profit on Madden most likely, it is not as simple of an equation as you imply, the profit they make may be deemed to be of better use somewhere else in the company in their mind.[/quote]
You are absolutely right. I noticed that after I sent it out. But they are turning out big profits. I don’t blame them for that. I do blame for the crappy service. For some of it I blame us for buying this product year after year.
September 7, 2008 at 4:14 pm
any word yey on the updates. Someone on this board stated they would be out before the last game today. I don’t know the source and I am apprehensive about unplugging my computer to plug into my XBox if the update is not there yet.
September 7, 2008 at 4:33 pm
One question.. Has anyone seen Jay Cutler in this game? I mean the guy looks like a damn string of yarn. Every kicker and punter in the game has more bulk than he does. The guy is 6′4” 230lbs.. I think its fucking hilarious how little he is displayed. Im sorry but Madden is just a perennial dissappointment to me. I continue buying it hoping that one year it will be close to the way it should be. They’ve been doing this for 20 years now, you’d think they’d have a clue at this point.
September 7, 2008 at 4:48 pm
WE SHOULD REALLY BOYCOTT EA SPORTS
September 7, 2008 at 4:58 pm
I agree with everyone in their frustration concerning the “supposed” roster update, hell I’ve been waiting myself to get my Franchise season underway! But in the end, there is nothing that we can do about it as fans but either deal with it or just don’t spend the $60 bucks and have nothing to rant about. Hopefully the update will come tomorrow but if not, do we just sit in Madden forums and bash each other like we’re 12 years old again? It would be nice if EA sports would post some type of response to the outroar caused by everyone waiting ever since Thursday day for something that never materialized, (that’s only a smart business move), but until then everyone should just chill and enjoy the first full weekend of the very sport that makes us want to play Madden in the first place.
September 7, 2008 at 4:59 pm
I’m 100% up for a boycott.
September 7, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Listen here, you know your not gonna boycott madden…Yes we are all eager to get the roster update but hell why are we talking like its never gonna come. Patience young’ns. We all love football and even though it could be better 09 is a great game. Remember when madden first came out and the way the game is now is unbelievable. of course it could be better but so could everything. deal with what we got now, now what you want now…
September 7, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Yes it is about the roster update. Yes we all wan this.
Now the main thing is we all been taken in by a huge lie.
A lie is a lie. Do unto others as they would do unto you
Pride and greed is bad too. They are the worst enemies in all.
Someone from EA at least should have came on to announce to the public
an error occurred, they did not Not even the site administrator showed up on the EA site. I’m really surprised at Rac too. That is a big shocker.
This is not good especially in this economy.
September 7, 2008 at 5:58 pm
This is Bull! EA can suck a fat babies BALLS!!!!
September 7, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Also EA Don’t you ever think you are bigger than anything else in this life
because it will always come back to you and haunt you
Remember it will always come back to you harder to what you do to another person.
Remember you are always forgiven when you ask to be forgiven
September 7, 2008 at 6:07 pm
The cats at EA are probably at their houses watching the Sunday night football game just like us. We probably won’t see a update till late Monday night or early Tuesday morning. You honestly think they are at the office working on a d*** roster update? You gotta be kidding! If that was the case it would have been out thursday for the season opener. I’m a Dolphin fan, just put Chad P. on my roster because I’m tired of playing with this dude who was traded like 3 weeks ago.
September 7, 2008 at 6:09 pm
seriously “it always comes back 2 YOU ya’ll think da BIG SHOTS @ EA actually read da message boards / forums ya’ll makin empty threats & givin WARNINGS 2 NO BODY
don’t eva think ur BIGGER dan N e thing else datz sum funny ISH there
I get where ur cumin from but SERIOUSLY
September 7, 2008 at 6:21 pm
i honestly dont think i would be this worked up about the update if i wouldnt have came across this site….but, seeing as i have, WHERE THE H*LL ARE THE ROSTER UPDATES?! I have done the big, obvious moves, but I cant add Adam Jones to the Cowboys if….THE GUY ISN’T EVEN ON THE GAME! I like the idea of “Ocho Cinco” having his name on his jersey, but the nfl hasnt even changed it yet…i just want Adam Jones…PLEASE?!?!?!?!
September 7, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Man its 9:35pm where I’m at! I’m gonna watch Entourage at 10 and then I’m taking my A** to sleep. Its sad they couldn’t have the roster update out by now. Us hard working Americans have to be up early for work in the morning, no time to bull s*** with EA tonight! Such a F***in disappointment!
September 7, 2008 at 6:39 pm
well…it’s been a whole 4 hrs since my last comment. We should boycott EA, AFTER WE get the update and patch…60 bones and checking these forums every hour…crazy! Just get it right EA by tuesday and just don’t tell us. I was raised with: your word is all you got. Well…ea hasn’t got anything today,
September 7, 2008 at 7:34 pm
i wanna start my new franchise tonight! OMG, just point out the culprit so i can stick my size 12 1/2 Jordan flip flop up their *ss!!!! AGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
September 7, 2008 at 8:43 pm
Fellows the reality is they don’t give a damn!!!! They are aware Tens of Thousands are upset about this and not one Rep. from EA has bothered to update. Well over on OS someone mentioned a it’s a server issue. YEAH RIGHT they don’t have these rosters ready. Plain and Simple. EA has our $ so why rush. Nobody from EA is working on this issue right now. Come on guys this is BS
September 7, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Ten’s of thousands of people are mad? Really? EA never even officially said that there was going to be an update. The only places I’ve even seen this mentioned are here and on a EA forum. Do you really think that tens of thousands of people actually visit those two places. I realize that people are frustrated, but realize that the average gamer like myself just doesn’t give a flying fuck. Who cares if you have to wait a day? If Madden is really that important to everyone that they’re getting this worked up and pissed off, then ea not releasing the roster updates is the very least of your problems.
Also, everyone who is whining about this or saying they’re going to boycott; if you don’t like it, don’t buy it, but something tells me that you’ll keep buying it if you bought this one. Get out of the house, fill your life with more than just video games. It can be pretty fun.
September 7, 2008 at 9:58 pm
We can sit here and stew all night; when it happens (roster updates / patches) some of us will still be disappointed, no matter how it’s been drawn up. Let’s face it, almost nobody works for free in the U.S. This is big bussiness, and there is way too much money out there (videogaming world) not to be taken. EA’s people have already been paid (enough), Now Mircosoft is waiting to boast about the sales and money they have made. Remember, EA is 2nd / third party to the main reason we all should be upset with – MS (SONY) – they tell them (EA) when to sit, stand, talk and shut up; if they want a cut of the pie. EA has probably done all they can in a timely fashion, but knowing they are going to take the heat for it, from all of us. Now, if you where paid well, to make and play videogames all year round; would you really care about what other people think about you? answer: NOPE – i’m getting paid, to do what i really like. Most of us are working at jobs we don’t like, but need to stay at these crappy jobs to make minium wage, for our / families survival. So if i’m going to pay for something full price, it better not be broken ie. patches / updates. If this happen 7 years ago, who would have cared; we would never know what Sony, MS, EA make in a “fiscal Year”; but now that we know it’s billion upon billions; we do care! If you have that / those types of resources, and can pay for it! you better come out with something amazing everyday, week, month, year. Madden 09 is an okay game! but remember, they are stilling using the same game engine as ‘07, ‘08. They just tweaked a few graphics, and added in a few ‘new’ features that they had scribbled on their brain storming board, and called it Madden 2009, 20th Anniversary edtion. **is it me or didn’t madden not release a game in one of those later years? when sony released NFL Gameday! on the playstation; so how can it be their 20th -19th? don’t flame me if i am wrong**
In short site of things, we are not getting what we paid for! In the hood, you would get shot for not coming thru on something you promised; in the suburbs, they would just run you out of the neighbourhood! And the upper class would just get a slap on their wrist and call it a ‘white collar crime’, and give you more options to try it again, and make even more money. They make too much money to care about you and me; but they also need US ( middle class, lower class; because the rich and famous don’t pay for much other than taxes!)And because they have us, they have their nice (videogaming) jobs and their brand new porsche 911’s.
ps. pls don’t flame me, just my POV
pss. You should now wonder why more people pirate games, and don’t give a crap, if they play it (Madden series) or not; or even care to have a patch / roster update! Go Vikes
psss. forgive my spelling
September 7, 2008 at 10:04 pm
^^^^^you really think anyone will read all that??
September 7, 2008 at 10:15 pm
EA knows it can do whatever it wants in regards to Madden. We and i include myself will buy it every year even tho we KNOW its going to bugs and glitches galore
EA has a iron fist. For example you cant really say anything about EA on OS witout being banned. i’ve seem people actually thank the lead Dev of 09 for for fixing the bugs in the game that shouldnt have been there in the 1st place..
US gamers need to hit EA where it hurts…
September 7, 2008 at 11:05 pm
[quote comment="35357"]^^^^^you really think anyone will read all that??[/quote]
dat was funny lol! i sure didnt want to
September 7, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Why do you think they would even release an update before all the week one games are played? It doesn’t make sense. Start bitching after Tuesday. Just because some geek left made a fake roster update list in some forum.
September 8, 2008 at 8:15 am
[quote comment="35376"]Why do you think they would even release an update before all the week one games are played? It doesn’t make sense. Start bitching after Tuesday. Just because some geek left made a fake roster update list in some forum.[/quote]
Reading is fundamental.
September 8, 2008 at 11:12 am
just don’t know about this ea roster update
September 8, 2008 at 11:13 am
I just the right rating and guys in the game…I’ll do a fantasy fran and live with it, but the patch would be very helpful. “you are killing me smalls”
September 8, 2008 at 11:15 am
[quote comment="35343"]Ten’s of thousands of people are mad? Really? EA never even officially said that there was going to be an update. The only places I’ve even seen this mentioned are here and on a EA forum. Do you really think that tens of thousands of people actually visit those two places. I realize that people are frustrated, but realize that the average gamer like myself just doesn’t give a flying fuck. Who cares if you have to wait a day? If Madden is really that important to everyone that they’re getting this worked up and pissed off, then ea not releasing the roster updates is the very least of your problems.
Also, everyone who is whining about this or saying they’re going to boycott; if you don’t like it, don’t buy it, but something tells me that you’ll keep buying it if you bought this one. Get out of the house, fill your life with more than just video games. It can be pretty fun.[/quote]
Ok so why are you on this site?
September 8, 2008 at 12:03 pm
do yall think it will be out tonight? and if so will it be accurate as of today or yesturday. i.e. will it have brady on IR? i know he’s not officially on IR but everyone’s saying he’s out for the year, so what else are they going to do with him? and i’m new to this so will the roster update and the patch be downloaded at the same time?
September 8, 2008 at 12:44 pm
yo Pasta you heard anything I mean I’m not really tripping I just want to know if it is ever coming out lmfao.
September 8, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Is rosters coming out today
September 8, 2008 at 2:33 pm
It’s here you cry babies!
September 8, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Sweet! It is here.
September 8, 2008 at 7:29 pm
not that any of this matters but it nice to see they finally put the fing net behind the field goal post. also doesn’t eq have certain area working only on madden, or basketball, if not thats how it should be done that way when fullbacks are catching the ball on the sideline and running out of bounds for a loss of 2 yards, it can be fixed in a day or 2 and not 3 weeks later when they jerk off a new patch.
September 9, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Well the PS3 finally had their roster updates today and I am glad they waited until now. They have moves that were just done today. Milford Brown who wasn’t signed by Jacksonville until this afternoon is already on the team.
I am looking forward to starting my dynasty mode now with Brady on the sideline for the year.
It is amazing how times have changed. I remember years ago when roster updates were already two weeks all by the time the rosters updates were finally available. Now they are doing moves that day. Gotta love the improvements.
September 9, 2008 at 8:26 pm
does anyone know where i can get the new roster update for the 360 without usibg xbox live?
September 10, 2008 at 5:45 pm
what do u think will be better NBA Live 09 or 2K9