Madden 09 Patch #2 Now Out

[quote comment="37893"]i just don’t understand why its sooooo hard to run the bal i have spoken to alot of players and they have the same question. linemen just don’t make their blocks they wander around like they have no sence of whats going on. even before you get the ball players are already in the back field and you have no chance at all.its no fun at all when you just pass pass and pass all the time. but the computer players make perfect blocks why is that?

its no fun and when its no fun its a bad game.

am i wrong? am i right please let me know. p.s.

ea sports can go and kiss my ass you suck and you know it to.[/quote]

Running the ball is not hard at all, getting 3.5 yards on a run play is good/great. when you learn running plays that get you 3-5, you stick with those, because you learn how to manuever in those plays that will turn a defensive breakdown into a 10-15 yard game. Also what down you run on is important too, if you are able to have a positive play on first down, second down is a great run down, even if your play isn’t successful on first down, second down is great run down. Dont be intimidated by player icons, good plays work vs any team, start with I form Iso, its really the best running play in football period, I form Iso and I twin fb dive. you can start with that. Make sure any counter play is run to the strong side, I.E tight end and fullback side. thats all for now.

*********************************CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR AE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS BUISNESS AND WE ARE PAYING THEM OUR GOOD MONEY SO THEY SHOULD SUPPLY US WITH A EXCELLENT PRODUCT! YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE JUSTIFYING THIER BLANT, LACKLUSTER CONCERN FOR THIER CUSTOMERS ARE A BUNCH OF LOSERS! i\IF EA HAD SOME COMPETITION WE WOULDN’T NEED THESE FORUMS BECAUSE THE GAMES WOULD BE ALMOST PERFECT. THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT BS PRODUCTS IN MADDEN FOR YEARS AND IT IS TIME FOR THE BULL TO STOP!

[quote comment="37864"]Well…I am pretty sure that everyone here has played other games that caused just as much of a headache as this one. Everyone wants a superior product, that “mind blowing experience” and EA tries to deliver that kind of a game in the little time they have to get each version on store shelves. Be glad that you actually got an update to fix some of the issues. When you have to deal with stuff that is as these next gen games, anything can happen….any time. I am not saying that you cannot speak your mind….but unless you have worked in the industry and see what they have to go through to get this such a good game out…you are complaining with only half the information. The game is great and there are issues to be fixed. In the end, its a game. When you shut that system off the experience ends until the next time you turn it on. Be fair and give them a chance to fix this…..[/quote]

*********************************CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR EA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS BUISNESS AND WE ARE PAYING THEM OUR GOOD MONEY SO THEY SHOULD SUPPLY US WITH A EXCELLENT PRODUCT! YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE JUSTIFYING THIER BLANT, LACKLUSTER CONCERN FOR THIER CUSTOMERS ARE A BUNCH OF LOSERS! i\IF EA HAD SOME COMPETITION WE WOULDN’T NEED THESE FORUMS BECAUSE THE GAMES WOULD BE ALMOST PERFECT. THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT BS PRODUCTS IN MADDEN FOR YEARS AND IT IS TIME FOR THE BULL TO STOP!

[quote comment="37940"]@2k DON’T tell me U da B3AST or Big Boi[/quote]

Naw I hate those 2 i got in an arguement with B3AST the other day.

[quote comment="38028"][quote comment="38027"][quote comment="37940"]@2k DON’T tell me U da B3AST or Big Boi[/quote]

Naw I hate those 2 i got in an arguement with B3AST the other day.[/quote]

well Big Boi is coo sometimes but b3ast is dumb. whats ur name over there? Im okcthunder.[/quote]

chichris… joined last month.

All I know is that demo needs to come out tomorrow for nba2k9

[quote comment="37985"][quote comment="37864"]Well…I am pretty sure that everyone here has played other games that caused just as much of a headache as this one. Everyone wants a superior product, that “mind blowing experience” and EA tries to deliver that kind of a game in the little time they have to get each version on store shelves. Be glad that you actually got an update to fix some of the issues. When you have to deal with stuff that is as these next gen games, anything can happen….any time. I am not saying that you cannot speak your mind….but unless you have worked in the industry and see what they have to go through to get this such a good game out…you are complaining with only half the information. The game is great and there are issues to be fixed. In the end, its a game. When you shut that system off the experience ends until the next time you turn it on. Be fair and give them a chance to fix this…..[/quote]

*********************************CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR EA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS BUISNESS AND WE ARE PAYING THEM OUR GOOD MONEY SO THEY SHOULD SUPPLY US WITH A EXCELLENT PRODUCT! YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE JUSTIFYING THIER BLANT, LACKLUSTER CONCERN FOR THIER CUSTOMERS ARE A BUNCH OF LOSERS! i\IF EA HAD SOME COMPETITION WE WOULDN’T NEED THESE FORUMS BECAUSE THE GAMES WOULD BE ALMOST PERFECT. THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT BS PRODUCTS IN MADDEN FOR YEARS AND IT IS TIME FOR THE BULL TO STOP![/quote]

lol this dude is really mad

[quote comment="37985"][quote comment="37864"]Well…I am pretty sure that everyone here has played other games that caused just as much of a headache as this one. Everyone wants a superior product, that “mind blowing experience” and EA tries to deliver that kind of a game in the little time they have to get each version on store shelves. Be glad that you actually got an update to fix some of the issues. When you have to deal with stuff that is as these next gen games, anything can happen….any time. I am not saying that you cannot speak your mind….but unless you have worked in the industry and see what they have to go through to get this such a good game out…you are complaining with only half the information. The game is great and there are issues to be fixed. In the end, its a game. When you shut that system off the experience ends until the next time you turn it on. Be fair and give them a chance to fix this…..[/quote]

*********************************CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR EA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS BUISNESS AND WE ARE PAYING THEM OUR GOOD MONEY SO THEY SHOULD SUPPLY US WITH A EXCELLENT PRODUCT! YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE JUSTIFYING THIER BLANT, LACKLUSTER CONCERN FOR THIER CUSTOMERS ARE A BUNCH OF LOSERS! i\IF EA HAD SOME COMPETITION WE WOULDN’T NEED THESE FORUMS BECAUSE THE GAMES WOULD BE ALMOST PERFECT. THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT BS PRODUCTS IN MADDEN FOR YEARS AND IT IS TIME FOR THE BULL TO STOP![/quote]
EA doesn’t have to do a thing for us. They have a monopoly on the market of NFL football games. They can put out a crappy game if they wanted and their is nothing you can do about it. I would love for EA to make a better Madden game but don’t sit here and expect that they owe us that because they don’t. In the end its a business and not about the gamers or their experience.

I played online last night (PS3) in a rain game, and the jerseys didn’t even get dirty like before… not even any field degradation? Has anyone else had this? Was it a fluke?

Since i installed the patch i haven’t been able to play two player matches (not online matches) with my buddys. Once it made it past the first half

Dont come on this site and say I dont understand why people complain about every little thing. We are complaining because we love Madden and this game has the chance to be the best one ever. The graphica and animations are awesome. Now that they have fixed the players running out of the bounds they need to fix the freeze issues that everyone is obviously still having and cut some of the time off where the QB just sits there before the snapo just to be sitting there. Why wait ten seconds when you are kicking an extra point or field goal. This doesnt make sense. I had to switch to 8 min. quarters to get the real life stats that players that get. Its a big difference between 5 or 6 min quaters. It takes too long to play that kind of game. EA needs to make the corrections because if they do they have a true prize winner on their hands. The best Madden ever. Thats why we are complaining you idiots.

LOL at EA and the long snap. Good job on the programming EA! Let’s make out game more sim by making the human player wait all day long. Who programmed this, a 4 year old? LOL, my goldfish has more sense than Tiberon.

I don’t know if anyone has touched on this and I don’t feel like sifting through all the posts but this might help some people in regards to franchise freezing. I did a lot of testing/simming to figure out why my franchise would always freeze, I played through 2 different franchises to 4 seasons and 3 seasons respectively before it froze. I noticed that it happened to me most often when progressing to regular season from pre-season and doing trades or making significant roster changes to any one team(perhaps due to the glitch rendering teams unable to properly allocate players in required roster spots).

What I then did was sim several franchise to 5 or 6 seasons each. I would back up my franchise before it EVER had to simulate anything. Every time that “Simulating…” appears it seems like the franchise is at risk for corruption. Every time it did freeze I just went back to a save before the last simulation and it worked perfectly. I now am successfully in my 6th season and everything is fine. I hope this helps someone, because it seems like everyone has different problems.

-CJ

Not sure about anyone else but I have never gotten this game to play at all on my PS3. My players do not move. I hear action in the background but nothing on screen. On the kickoff, the ball is kicked but none of the players move so the ball ends up on the 20 yard line. Then when I cal my 1st play, the players never leave the huddle so a delay of game penalty is called. This continues on each play. The players never go to the line of scrimmage. What is going on here?

Also, even in training mode, I can never move my player forward, sideways or backwards. I can turn the player in a direction but never get him to move.

This game is about to go back if I can’t get this figured out.

EA doesn’t have to do a thing for us. They have a monopoly on the market of NFL football games. They can put out a crappy game if they wanted and their is nothing you can do about it. I would love for EA to make a better Madden game but don’t sit here and expect that they owe us that because they don’t. In the end its a business and not about the gamers or their experience.[/quote]

You are totally right; thats why the game sucks so bad because the put out crap and we allow them to every year! The only way we can get what we want is if we band together and refuse to purchase thier BS! Humans are not that smart though, a person is, but not people; all they do is blow alot of hot steam on forums but do nothing to try to solve the problem.

I downloaded the patch last night and played two games in my franchise, here are my thoughts:

1.) The CPU snap issue really isnt that big of a deal. It takes me roughly about 5-10 seconds to pick a play after seeing what kind of package the offense is running. Then also around 5 seconds or so to make my pre-snap defensive reads. So in all actuality its only about an extra 3-5 seconds or so, and plus the CPU actually trys to draw you off-sides, which is cool. All in all to me, this is not that bad. Partially annoying on extra points, that I agree with.

2.) The CPU is better and more competitive. I was 2-0 with the Ravens on my franchise, and actually lost my next two games last night to Cleveland and Pitt. Which pissed me off, but also is cool, b/c winning every game is no fun either. I’m playing on the All-Pro level, which is cool. They actually got me like 2 or 3 times with throws into the flats, where the back actually took the ball upfield.

3.) I played in a rain game, and the field got muddy, players were covered. Looked sick. Was very impressed by that.

All in all, I’m happy with the patch, and think it was a solid job by EA.

[quote comment="38228"]I downloaded the patch last night and played two games in my franchise, here are my thoughts:

1.) The CPU snap issue really isnt that big of a deal. It takes me roughly about 5-10 seconds to pick a play after seeing what kind of package the offense is running. Then also around 5 seconds or so to make my pre-snap defensive reads. So in all actuality its only about an extra 3-5 seconds or so, and plus the CPU actually trys to draw you off-sides, which is cool. All in all to me, this is not that bad. Partially annoying on extra points, that I agree with.

2.) The CPU is better and more competitive. I was 2-0 with the Ravens on my franchise, and actually lost my next two games last night to Cleveland and Pitt. Which pissed me off, but also is cool, b/c winning every game is no fun either. I’m playing on the All-Pro level, which is cool. They actually got me like 2 or 3 times with throws into the flats, where the back actually took the ball upfield.

3.) I played in a rain game, and the field got muddy, players were covered. Looked sick. Was very impressed by that.

All in all, I’m happy with the patch, and think it was a solid job by EA.[/quote]

I agree, in other maddens I use to go undefeated and won 10 str8 Super Bowls which is not fun at ALL! This game is challeging all together and the CPU is real copetitive. The CPU snaps are realistic and allows me to actually see the artwork when they run up to the line, then get my defense ready for the play, I could finally make pre-snap adjustsments on defense now!

[quote comment="38228"]I downloaded the patch last night and played two games in my franchise, here are my thoughts:

1.) The CPU snap issue really isnt that big of a deal. It takes me roughly about 5-10 seconds to pick a play after seeing what kind of package the offense is running. Then also around 5 seconds or so to make my pre-snap defensive reads. So in all actuality its only about an extra 3-5 seconds or so, and plus the CPU actually trys to draw you off-sides, which is cool. All in all to me, this is not that bad. Partially annoying on extra points, that I agree with.

2.) The CPU is better and more competitive. I was 2-0 with the Ravens on my franchise, and actually lost my next two games last night to Cleveland and Pitt. Which pissed me off, but also is cool, b/c winning every game is no fun either. I’m playing on the All-Pro level, which is cool. They actually got me like 2 or 3 times with throws into the flats, where the back actually took the ball upfield.

3.) I played in a rain game, and the field got muddy, players were covered. Looked sick. Was very impressed by that.

All in all, I’m happy with the patch, and think it was a solid job by EA.[/quote]

cool. thanks for the post! makes me feel quite a bit better. GO RAVENS!

OMG THIS LONG SNAP SUXXORS.

The only aspect of the new cpu snap delay that bothers me is that the cpu now takes WAY to long to kick the friggin ball or snap for the point after. EA said their pre-patch field degradation effect was very subtle. Perhaps their attempt to address game freezes in this patch was very subtle as well. Seriously EA, take more pride in the testing of your products and patches.And FIX the god-like quarterback completion ratio on pro and higher skill settings.
That all being said, Madden 09 is still a great game! And if EA would go one more extra mile to seriously address a few issues, it could be their best ever. But if you read the producer blog, it looks like they are soley lookin toward Madden 2010, so don’t hold your breath for any new patches.
Peace all.

[quote comment="38288"]too bad they made a half-hearted effort on ‘09, I’d say ‘08 plays more realistically. Ridiculous you can’t stop the pass on All Pro.[/quote]

Running the ball has been more of a challenge for me.

NG Roster Update #5

Transactions
LB Joey LaRocque – Added to Bears
DE Ervin Baldwin – Released to Free Agents
WR Mark Bradley – Released by Bears
CB Marcus Hamilton – Signs with Bears
S Kyries Hebert – Added to Bengals
C Kyle Cook – Added to Bengals
S Herana-Daze Jones – Added to Bengals
C Dan Santucci – Released to Free Agents (IR)
G Frank Davis – Released by Bengals (Removed)
CB Jamar Fletcher – Signs with Bengals
CB Geoff Pope – Released by Bengals (Removed)
WR Justin Jenkins – Added to Bills
G Chris Denman – Added to Bills (Practice Squad)
G Christian Gaddis – Released (Removed)
QB Gibran Hamdan – Added to Bills
DT Nic Clemons – Added to Broncos
S Hamza Abdullah – Released by Broncos
S Vernon Fox – Signs with Broncos
RT James Lee – Added to Bucs
RT Julius Wilson – Released to Free Agents
CB DeJuan Tribble – Released by Chargers
DT Ian Scott – Signs with Chargers
DT Keith Jackson – Removed
DT T.J. Jackson – Added to Chiefs
TE John Paul Foschi – Added to Chiefs
CB Keiwan Ratliff – Released by Colts
LB Jordan Senn – Added to Colts
HB Jalen Parmele – Released by Dolphins
TE Jason Rader – Added to Falcons
CB Tarell Brown – Added to 49ers
FB Montell Owens – Added to Jaguars
CB Scott Starks – Released to Free Agents (IR)
CB Omare Lowe – Signs with Jaguars
WR Marcus Henry – Released by Jets
P Ben Graham – Signs with Jets
TE John Madsen – Released by Raiders
TE Ben Troupe – Signs with Raiders
G/DT Fred Wakefield – Added to Raiders
CB Fakhir Brown – Released by Rams
CB Jason Craft – Signs with Rams
LB Jameel McClain – Added to Ravens
FS Justin Hamilton – Added to Redskins
DT Alvin McKinley – Released by Saints
DT Kendrick Clancy – Added to Saints
HB Gary Russell – Released by Steelers
LB Donovan Woods – Added to Steelers
LB Patrick Bailey – Added to Steelers
DT Deljuan Robinson – Added to Texas

Ratings Up*
WR Brandon Lloyd – Bears – 75 to 78 – Has been the #1 receiver on the Bears on what is a surprising passing game.
DT Dusty Dvoracek – Bears – 77 to 80 – Has 8 solo tackles and 9 total tackles through 3 games, Tommie Harris has 3 tackles.
QB Carson Palmer – Bengals – 94 to 95 – Something didn’t feel right about this, and Carson proved it. Played very well against a good Giants defense despite a busted nose and minimal pass blocking.
LB Alex Hall – Browns – 61 to 68 – Created several QB pressures with a sack in Week 3.
LT Donald Penn – Bucs – 76 to 80 – Has been a solid starter for the Bucs for a year now.
QB Brian Griese – Bucs – 77 to 78 – Threw for over 400 yards in a wild game vs. the Bears.
WR Antonio Bryant – Bucs – 77 to 79 – Had a 10 catch 138 yard game in Week 3 vs. the Bears.
DE Turk McBride – Chiefs – 75 to 78 – Has played better this year racking up 12 tackles and 3 tackles for loss.
HB Felix Jones – Cowboys – 81 to 82 – Looks just as fast on grass as he does on carpet. Up to 97 speed.
LB Tim Dobbins – Chargers – 65 to 73 – Is now in the rotation at MLB after being a star on special teams for several seasons.
G Ike Ndukwe – Dolphins – 75 to 79 – Worked well with the rest of the Dolphins O-line on Ronnie’s big day.
DE John Abraham – Falcons – 92 to 93 – Leads the NFL with 6 sacks. Beat up on Jeff Backus and a rookie LT in KC.
G Harvey Dahl – Falcons – 76 to 79 – Who? The starting RG in Atlanta paving the way for the Burner Turner.
G Justin Blalock – Falcons – 77 to 79 – Might be finding his niche after struggling badly last year, especially in pass protection.
G Uche Nwaneri – Jaguars – 72 to 74 – Now starting at LG for the Jags, the Jags ran wild in week 3 against an undersized Colts front.
G Daryn Colledge – Packers – 77 to 79 – Working well with an injured interior of the Packers offensive line.
WR Greg Jennings – Packers – 93 to 94 – Superstar in the making. Him and Aaron Rodgers will be a part of a lot of big plays.
DE Kalimba Edwards – Raiders – 76 to 79 – Got the better of Pro Bowler LT Jason Peters on pass rushing situations in Week 3.
HB Michael Bush – Raiders – 79 to 80 – Looks all the way back from injuries. Part of a 3 headed monster for the Raiders at running back.
FS Jim Leonhard – Ravens – 78 to 79 – Played a great game, including several great kick returns, filling in for injured Dawan Landry.
T Zach Strief – Saints – 65 to 69 – Filled in for LT Jamaal Brown vs. the Broncos in a wild shoot out vs. the Broncos. Brees threw 48 times.
CB Bryant McFadden – Steelers – 85 to 86 – Played very well last season as the nickel corner and has filled in for injured Deshea Townsend to the tune of 2 INT’s and 5 pass breakups.
HB Steve Slaton – Texans – 77 to 79 – Busted a 50 yard run vs. the Titans on his 116 yard and a TD day in week 3. His role as a major part of the offense seems secure.
*Few minor ratings changes not noted due to time

Ratings Down
WR Devin Hester – Bears – 81 to 79 – Has caught 2 balls for 13 yards. Not a part of the offense and seems to only be a special teamer.
LT Levi Jones – Bengals – 88 to 87 – Was dominated by Kiwanuka in week 3.
WR Darrell Jackson – Broncos – 83 to 81 – Has slid down the Broncos depth chart, all those passing yards and he is not involved.
QB Derek Anderson – Browns – 87 to 85 – Might not be all the way back. Looks to have a couple starts left on a Browns team heading for a losing record.
LB Kamerion Wimbley – Browns – 88 to 87 – Only had 5 sacks last year rushing the passer, this year he has done nothing.
QB Jeff Garcia – Bucs – 89 to 87 – His benching might be more personal, but only an injury or a couple terrible performances will see him back as the starter.
CB Ronde Barber – Bucs – 92 to 91 – Has lost a step, got picked on last week vs. the Bears.
WR Joey Galloway – Bucs – 87 to 86 – Has lost a step, injured a ton and looks disinterested.
LG Brian Waters – Chiefs – 91 to 87 – Bad timing he goes down 4 points after the Chiefs best running game in a while, but he is near the end.
S Bob Sanders – Colts – 99 to 98 – Loses his 99 cause he can’t stay on the field. Still not a bigger difference maker on the defensive side of the ball.
CB Adam Jones – Cowboys – 86 to 83 – Looks like a player that has been out of the league for a while. Would have thought always trying to cover TO would have helped more.
DE Jamaal Anderson – Falcons – 83 to 81 – Still waiting on his first career sack after being a top 10 pick a year ago.
TE Vernon Davis – 49ers – 87 to 85 – A lot of people saw him catching more than 4 passes in his first 3 games, big disappointment.
DE Reggie Hayward – Jaguars – 86 to 83 – Had 27.5 sacks over a 3 year span, since then has 4.5 over 3 years including a year out injured.
WR Dennis Northcutt – Jaguars – 81 to 79 – Hasn’t done too much on a Jags passing attack that was missing WR Jerry Porter and the invisible Reggie Williams. Matt Jones has stepped up.
CB Al Harris – Packers – 93 to 92 – Before his spleen was lacerated, looked slow vs. Detroit. Was underrated for a long time and he might be getting old now as people know his name.
T Chad Clifton – Packers – 95 to 94 – Got beat up by DeMarcus Ware which shouldn’t be a story, but that wouldn’t have happened a couple years ago.
T Mark Tauscher – Packers – 94 to 93 – Commits too many penalties and looked a little old vs. Dallas.
WR Randy Moss – Patriots – 99 to 98 – Gave a pathetic effort in week 3 whether not going up for an underthrown duck or his blocking. Looks unhappy and won’t be the same threat without the Brady deep ball.
CB Tye Hill – Rams – 86 to 81 – Just got his starting job back after the release of CB Fakhir Brown. This was supposed to be his big year but hasn’t turned out that way.
DT La’Roi Glover – Rams – 84 to 82 – Just benched on the Rams defensive line, that says it all.
QB Marc Bulger – Rams – 89 to 88 – Just benched for Trent Green, will have his job back in 2 weeks whether due to injury or injury.
S Corey Chavous – Rams – 82 to 79 – Has been fading for a long time, one of the only secondary’s he could start in.
HB Ray Rice – Ravens – 80 to 78 – This guy hasn’t been as good as advertised, Willis and McClain seem to have the running game under control.
DE Jason Taylor – Redskins – 98 to 97 – Is injured and hasn’t made the overwhelming difference some thought he may. Now he is injured.
DT Brian Young – Saints – 85 to 82 – Long time overdue. High effort player and can’t get off blocks anymore.
LT Marvel Smith – Steelers – 88 to 87 – Big Ben took a beating last week vs. Philly.
TE Alge Crumpler – Titans – 86 to 83 – Bo Scaife has double the catches and double the yards of Alge.

Injuries
C Tom Nalen – Broncos – IR
LB Dan Connor – Panthers – IR

New Roster Update For This Week GUYS

I dont kno if anyone else is having this problem, but whenever i try to download the patch it freezes mid-download, any idea why this is happening n how i can fix it

I haven’t seen any progression or regression since downloading patch#2. I play a lot of franchise mode but its not fun without players getting better. Do i need to start a new franchise or does it just not work.

Hata:

The CPU pisses me off too; however, I think this year is trying to simulate real life. You have to throw in different packages, zones, and blitzes. I also suspect that you also have to have good players and a good defense. I think the better the player the better the chances of making a good play on the ball. In my franchise once i build my defense up to A+ caliber Ill test my theory; if the QB still makes alot of passes Ill chalk it up to faulty programming. Right now Ill just say this year is like the real NFL…a battle every week!