A Few More Thoughts on Club OTP

by pastapadre
Posted October 10th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

After playing some more Online Team Play tonight in NBA Live 09 I realized I forgot a few things in my initial write-up. There were also some thoughts that came to mind since then. I included a few screens of the club area and the grading that is done after a game is completed. I’ve also added a poll to vote on the current team assigned to the club. So far club Pasta Padre is struggling but enjoying it despite that.

Fun fact: The Pasta Padre club has the most members of any club at this time.

As a team it seemed like we started to play better last night and got into more of a rhythm. Unfortunately there is little that can be done on defense so there isn’t much incentive to playing in a team oriented fashion.

I was able to switch the team for the club so that is good news. I’d prefer it though if we could just choose a team at the matchup screen instead of having to be locked into the one set for the club.

This brings up a concern I have and that is how only the top teams are being used. Rockets, Celtics, and Lakers primarily. There isn’t any reason for a club to not play with one of the best teams. Personally this takes some of the fun out of it for me as I’d like to have a wide variety of matchups. There doesn’t seem to be a way to get a balanced matchup between two of the lesser teams since no one is going to choose a team for the club when they know that a random pairing will almost certainly result in playing the Rockets, Celtics, or Lakers.

So we have all these different teams in the game but the majority seem unlikely to ever be used in OTP. This includes the FIBA teams. Just for fun we set it up with Team USA and our potential opponents laughed and backed out which was to be expected. Hey we are desperate for a win and were hoping they wouldn’t notice. I know I would really like to play with the FIBA teams and rules but just doesn’t look like it will happen because there is no way to prearrange matchups or discuss them before linking up with an opponent and being locked into the current club team.

In a full 5v5 I don’t believe there is a way to intentional foul. If there is I haven’t had any success with it. I can understand why there might be concern about an intentional foul button but if someone wants to ruin the experience of others they’ll find a way to do so. Hopefully they didn’t remove that functionality out of fear that it would be used to cause problems because it can be a necessity.

In addition to the problem where two players are started way in the back court by the bench at the start of the second half there have been instances, from what I remember usually on inbounds plays in the front court, where it is almost as if the entire team on defense is running in late from the other side of the court. It has allowed the offense to get some easy scores with the defense being completely out of position like that.

I feel bad for people who are controlling bigs. On one hand they do get a lot of chances to score and grab rebounds. But they also end up taking the hit when the player they are assigned to defending scores at will also. So far it definitely seems easier to work up a good grade as a PG, SG, or SF as opposed to PF or C.

I’m still unsure if you can view your own or your club member’s stats as broken down by position. You can with the free agents which is neat to look through.

I do really like how quickly the OTP games are breezing along. That may be due in part to the frantic pace of the games and few stoppages in play though. On average I’d say from start to finish each game is taking about 25 minutes. It’s nice to be able to get a handful of games in within a smaller chunk of time. Still it feels long enough that better teams will be able to separate themselves from the competition and teams that fall behind would have the opportunity to make a comeback.

I really hope that all the club records and player stats are cleared when any improvements or fixes are made to the mode. Right now all the stats are relatively bloated and it really isn’t representative of skill or level of teamwork.

Now that I have been able to change up the club team I was curious how often everyone would like it to be switched? I understand right now we pretty much have to use one of the best teams in order to compete so that limits the options. When I’m online I can change it as much as possible but when I’m off it ends up stuck on a single team.

There are two things we can do. The first is that I can assign a couple people GM duties which would mean that they could invite or boot people from the club but also believe they’d be able to change the team. The other thing would be for me to ask everyone what team to set for a particular period of time. So for now I’m going to put up a poll asking which team you would like that to be right now and we’ll go from there in a few days.

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Tags: online team play

boucher

First????
boucher

[quote comment="41547"]First????[/quote]

Yesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My life is complete
boucher

First????
boucher

[quote comment="41547"]First????[/quote]

Yesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My life is complete
El Cavman

alright pasta, im gonna be on tonight and i havent had a chance to play with you yet so i hope you are on for the first or second game of the night
El Cavman

alright pasta, im gonna be on tonight and i havent had a chance to play with you yet so i hope you are on for the first or second game of the night
pastapadre

I’ll try to make it on for a game or two tonight. If I can’t then I’ll be on some tomorrow.
pastapadre

I’ll try to make it on for a game or two tonight. If I can’t then I’ll be on some tomorrow.
El Cavman

nice, I can play most positions but im best at C or PF
El Cavman

nice, I can play most positions but im best at C or PF
http://pastapadre.com/ sdot

DAM i’m slippin

if ur NOT 1st ur LAST

KidN

@ N e 1 who might kno I see dey got Scottie & Rodman in 2K so are deer N e GOOD MJ caps out yet

or

has da On-Line problems affected dat 2
http://pastapadre.com sdot

DAM i’m slippin

if ur NOT 1st ur LAST

KidN

@ N e 1 who might kno I see dey got Scottie & Rodman in 2K so are deer N e GOOD MJ caps out yet

or

has da On-Line problems affected dat 2
pastapadre

Yeah doesn’t look like I’ll be making it home in time to hop on tonight but I’ll look to play some tomorrow.
pastapadre

Yeah doesn’t look like I’ll be making it home in time to hop on tonight but I’ll look to play some tomorrow.
J-Claw

Thats cool that this is the biggest club in the world.
J-Claw

Thats cool that this is the biggest club in the world.
EFFIN PANDA

Pasta since EA said they would

update new stuff daily are they going to put goggles

on Amare Stoudemire since he has to wear them now?
EFFIN PANDA

Pasta since EA said they would

update new stuff daily are they going to put goggles

on Amare Stoudemire since he has to wear them now?
adam

are you going to do a write up of the online play single player?
adam

are you going to do a write up of the online play single player?
E z E

Hey Pasta man, add me 2 ur friends list homie, I say we should have kept the Blazers. The people runnin with em just werent good enough with em. I’m a beast with Aldridge. So if we go back to em i’ll use Aldridge. But i’m best at running PG. If I had to choose out of the teams up their i’ll go with the Hornets.

I could use Chris Paul pretty efficiently.
E z E

Hey Pasta man, add me 2 ur friends list homie, I say we should have kept the Blazers. The people runnin with em just werent good enough with em. I’m a beast with Aldridge. So if we go back to em i’ll use Aldridge. But i’m best at running PG. If I had to choose out of the teams up their i’ll go with the Hornets.

I could use Chris Paul pretty efficiently.
Michael

Pasta,

The Way You INT FOUL Is By Hitting The Back Buttin Near The Ball Handler And The Game Will Auto Foul Him For You…A Team I Was On Almost Came Back Using This In The Last Minute Cause FT Are Somewhat Difficult For A PF/C…I Dunno If I Like The Multi GM Deal Cause its Ur Club…Just Keep The Voting And Switch Between 1st Class Teams, Im Sure Use As A Club Will get Better With Practice No Matter What The Team…
Michael

Pasta,

The Way You INT FOUL Is By Hitting The Back Buttin Near The Ball Handler And The Game Will Auto Foul Him For You…A Team I Was On Almost Came Back Using This In The Last Minute Cause FT Are Somewhat Difficult For A PF/C…I Dunno If I Like The Multi GM Deal Cause its Ur Club…Just Keep The Voting And Switch Between 1st Class Teams, Im Sure Use As A Club Will get Better With Practice No Matter What The Team…
Jamin

pasta did you find out if they are going to patch the new hornets court in?
Jamin

pasta did you find out if they are going to patch the new hornets court in?
j-bull91

hey has anyone noticed that the rosters arent updated? shaun livingston isnt on the heat, jr giddens on the celtics, will solomon on the raptors, michael ruffin on the bulls, player #s arent right, other than that online is frickin sweet cept for people using the same teams over and over
j-bull91

hey has anyone noticed that the rosters arent updated? shaun livingston isnt on the heat, jr giddens on the celtics, will solomon on the raptors, michael ruffin on the bulls, player #s arent right, other than that online is frickin sweet cept for people using the same teams over and over
j-bull91

*giddens,solomon,ruffin arent on the teams but they are suppose to be
j-bull91

*giddens,solomon,ruffin arent on the teams but they are suppose to be
meloanswer

can someone from asia join the club?
meloanswer

can someone from asia join the club?
Tristate Killa

Pasta,Live has the clubs but Im telling you 2Ks 5 on 5 is so much better than Lives.After watching some of the videos you posted from your club play,I came away very discouraged cause of the lack of defense and franatic play.

In 2K9s 5 on 5 you can block shots steal the ball,and there is better body detection on the players.Also you can set picks, call for the ball, and with the trigger buttons you can juke your defender to get open when the ball isnt in your possesion.
Tristate Killa

Pasta,Live has the clubs but Im telling you 2Ks 5 on 5 is so much better than Lives.After watching some of the videos you posted from your club play,I came away very discouraged cause of the lack of defense and franatic play.

In 2K9s 5 on 5 you can block shots steal the ball,and there is better body detection on the players.Also you can set picks, call for the ball, and with the trigger buttons you can juke your defender to get open when the ball isnt in your possesion.
Tristate Killa

Pasta I hope you get a chance to post some impressions on 2Ks Team Play 5 on 5.
Tristate Killa

Pasta I hope you get a chance to post some impressions on 2Ks Team Play 5 on 5.
http://www.operationsports.com Millennium

My biggest issue with Live online is the pass beneath the basket. It seems like everyone just runs up the court, throws the ball under the bucket, dunk/99% lay-up, rinse and repeat.

Club OTP games, after one night, are a thing of the past for me. I’ll stick to OTP games with guys I know.
http://www.operationsports.com/ Millennium

My biggest issue with Live online is the pass beneath the basket. It seems like everyone just runs up the court, throws the ball under the bucket, dunk/99% lay-up, rinse and repeat.

Club OTP games, after one night, are a thing of the past for me. I’ll stick to OTP games with guys I know.
Tristate Killa

I hope Pasta goes into detail on how sweet the 5 on 5 team play in 2K9 can be when not lagging or getting disconnected.Unlike Lives defensively challenged 5 on 5.
Tristate Killa

I hope Pasta goes into detail on how sweet the 5 on 5 team play in 2K9 can be when not lagging or getting disconnected.Unlike Lives defensively challenged 5 on 5.
http://pastapadre.com/ sdot

yea U can also grab ur man ala Ron Artest vs Paul Pierce 2 slo him up
http://pastapadre.com sdot

yea U can also grab ur man ala Ron Artest vs Paul Pierce 2 slo him up
JR

Pasta,

I went ahead and created my own custom sliders, using Playmakers as a baseline and then making my modifications from there. Game play is much improved offline (especially the 70% FG issue). I only tested it out on Super Star mode, and it’s better for 10+ minute quarters. The final score is not indicitive of how competitive this game was. I’ll be tweaking with 2K9 sliders shortly as well.

EA Locker: cabrillo24

Manual input:
http://www.pastapadre.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1469

Results (keep in mind I’m pretty damn good at NBA Live)

9 minute quarters
Lakers (user) 91
Trailblazers (cpu) 75

Trailblazers kept it close in the first half (Lakers had 5 point lead); however, the depth of the Lakers bench was too much in the second half as the Blazers were outscored by 4 points in the 3rd quarter and by 7 points in the 4th quarter.

CPU starter stats:

Oden: 6 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 steals, 3/5 FG
Aldridge: 20 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assist, 2 steals, 5 TO, 4/5 FT, 8/14 FG
Webster: 7 points, 2 steals, 3 TO, 3/4 FT, 0/4 3PT, 2/11 FG
Roy: 15 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 1 steal, 8/10 FT, 0/3 3PT, 4/9 FG
Blake: 9 points, 3 TO, 5 assist, 1/1 3PT, 4/9 FG

The offense appeared to flow through Aldridge and Roy a lot. Roy took a lot of the shots, but was fouled in the act so I would say he took about 15 shots vice the 9 that shows up on the official box score. He was definitely hounded by Bryant.

Oden wasn’t a focal point in the offense, he had an OK game, but I think Bynum and Gasol were just too much for him. Oden played 26 out of a possible 36 minutes.
JR

Pasta,

I went ahead and created my own custom sliders, using Playmakers as a baseline and then making my modifications from there. Game play is much improved offline (especially the 70% FG issue). I only tested it out on Super Star mode, and it’s better for 10+ minute quarters. The final score is not indicitive of how competitive this game was. I’ll be tweaking with 2K9 sliders shortly as well.

EA Locker: cabrillo24

Manual input:
http://www.pastapadre.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1469

Results (keep in mind I’m pretty damn good at NBA Live)

9 minute quarters
Lakers (user) 91
Trailblazers (cpu) 75

Trailblazers kept it close in the first half (Lakers had 5 point lead); however, the depth of the Lakers bench was too much in the second half as the Blazers were outscored by 4 points in the 3rd quarter and by 7 points in the 4th quarter.

CPU starter stats:

Oden: 6 points, 7 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 steals, 3/5 FG
Aldridge: 20 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assist, 2 steals, 5 TO, 4/5 FT, 8/14 FG
Webster: 7 points, 2 steals, 3 TO, 3/4 FT, 0/4 3PT, 2/11 FG
Roy: 15 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 1 steal, 8/10 FT, 0/3 3PT, 4/9 FG
Blake: 9 points, 3 TO, 5 assist, 1/1 3PT, 4/9 FG

The offense appeared to flow through Aldridge and Roy a lot. Roy took a lot of the shots, but was fouled in the act so I would say he took about 15 shots vice the 9 that shows up on the official box score. He was definitely hounded by Bryant.

Oden wasn’t a focal point in the offense, he had an OK game, but I think Bynum and Gasol were just too much for him. Oden played 26 out of a possible 36 minutes.
nba2k

where are the lakers stats? also can u show team stats ex. fg%, steals, fast break pts..
nba2k

where are the lakers stats? also can u show team stats ex. fg%, steals, fast break pts..
JR

NBA 2K, I’ll post those, I’m playing the Clippers right now in dynasty mode, so you’ll have to give me a minute. I just didn’t post those stats because I controlled them and I dictated the offense and who got what shots. I’ll post them more on the this thread so people can follow along and it doesn’t make this blog off topic

http://www.pastapadre.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1469
JR

NBA 2K, I’ll post those, I’m playing the Clippers right now in dynasty mode, so you’ll have to give me a minute. I just didn’t post those stats because I controlled them and I dictated the offense and who got what shots. I’ll post them more on the this thread so people can follow along and it doesn’t make this blog off topic

http://www.pastapadre.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1469
nba2k

[quote comment="41600"]NBA 2K, I’ll post those, I’m playing the Clippers right now in dynasty mode, so you’ll have to give me a minute. I just didn’t post those stats because I controlled them and I dictated the offense and who got what shots. I’ll post them more on the this thread so people can follow along and it doesn’t make this blog off topic

http://www.pastapadre.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1469/quote

coo thanks.
nba2k

[quote comment="41600"]NBA 2K, I’ll post those, I’m playing the Clippers right now in dynasty mode, so you’ll have to give me a minute. I just didn’t post those stats because I controlled them and I dictated the offense and who got what shots. I’ll post them more on the this thread so people can follow along and it doesn’t make this blog off topic

http://www.pastapadre.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1469/quote

coo thanks.