
What I previously labeled as the first test for NBA Live 09’s 365 feature and NBA 2K9’s Insider was the Allen Iverson for Chauncey Billups trade. 2K9 got the trade completed first and should get credit for doing so. With the 365 feature updating only after a player has appeared with their new team that means 2K will be able to implement player movement faster than Live if they choose to do so.
The biggest story in the NBA this weekend was the emergence of an undrafted rookie for the Golden State Warriors. Anthony Morrow had 37 points and 11 rebounds in his first start. That point total broke the record for any undrafted player in their rookie season. Prior to playing the Clippers on Saturday, Morrow had averaged 7.7 points in the three other games he had appeared in.
NBA Live 09 currently has Morrow in and his DNA is reflective of his performance through his first three games, however 365 is still running a few days behind schedule so it doesn’t have Saturday’s performance factored in yet. He is listed as the starting PG for the team in the latest update. Obviously ratings changes will need to be considered (he is currently in as a 63 overall). As Morrow did not ship on the game the 365 feature added him in after appearing for the first time. That means his appearance and accessories can still use some tweaking such as receiving the orange headband.
As for NBA 2K9? Morrow isn’t even in the game. So that is something to monitor as far as how long it takes for Morrow to appear and how well he is represented. It seems that so far players being added in roster updates just take on all the characteristics of some other NBA player that was already in 2K9.
So while 2K Insider had the edge in implementing the trade faster it is clear that Live 365 is much more effective with adding new players in.
November 16, 2008 at 8:50 pm
morrow should have been in 2K9 even before his big night i wonder now how long itll take for them to put him in
November 16, 2008 at 8:51 pm
@ Lazaro:
Well that is the advantage with having an automated system compared to the regular guy doing roster updates. Theres a whole lot of players still missing from 2K9.
November 16, 2008 at 9:17 pm
2K has the OS Outsiders and The Real 2K Insider (Rashidi) so unless you only play online, these two rosters will be the most accurate and in depth period.
November 16, 2008 at 9:24 pm
agentk wrote:
funny how those guys are better at updating than insider and guys like playmaker can improve live. makes you wonder why 2k and ea cant do that well themselves
November 16, 2008 at 9:26 pm
wow pasta it really seems like in every aspect your pushing for live to be first or better…maybe ur not biased but it just seems like that. Im not one of those kids who is trying to be a jerk towards you or anything….but just by the way you type about live and 2k you can see a difference, but whatever this is ur site and ea probably wants u to advertise for them or something
November 16, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Wow, Pasta this is so apparent it’s not even funny. You will post one of these until EA gets it right so you can fufill your duties. Whatever happened to your 2K impressions? You went back to review Live but you never went back to 2K. Either EA told you they have Morrow updated or you are just going to keep pushing Live. Congrats on upgrading the server recently to allow for the edit of comments…one question though, Did Peter Moore sign the check this time or was it computer generated?
November 16, 2008 at 10:21 pm
lol not pastas fault that 2k doesnt have an important player in the living rosters
November 16, 2008 at 10:23 pm
he already said that the new update with all missing players would come this week, Didn’t know you were a EASPORTS fanboy
November 16, 2008 at 10:25 pm
@ Ross:
I’m not sure if you’ll feel that way when I put up my story about how 365 obviously didn’t sell games this year and no one really cares that much about it. The compelling aspect, to me at least, is on the side of analyzing the actual NBA through DNA data. I talk some about this in the upcoming Operation Sports podcast.
Still though it is worth evaluating these features for what they were advertised on vs what they actually delivered. I don’t run a media site that writes a vanilla review and then moves on to the next year.
November 16, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Where is your 2K review?
November 16, 2008 at 11:14 pm
@ pasta
i dont think you are in the pocket of EA, but it is a joke how u do continue to try and find the pluses of Live and the negatives of 2k.
besides the sales figures post, you havent posted anything positive about 2k, despite the fact it is the superior game. and even in that post, you took a dig about the online problems. and that problem has been fixed to an extent, and to many (as proven by the comments on your own website) isnt that big of a deal.
you never reviewed 2k. at all. despite telling us that you were going to give 2k its coverage once you had the game. i dont care if you ‘rate’ the game or whatever, thats your preference, and i understand why. but to not even cover the game in total is insulting to your readers who value your opinion and doubt that you’re biased.
yes, EA is much better supplying you with their product pre-ship date, allowing you to analyze it, play it more, etc. so all those early posts about live are deserved. it had your attention, it was pre-release date, and you didnt have 2k, so all the information was relevant to us. but 2k has been out for over a month now. you should have plenty of time to give it ample play and provide us with your feedback and opinions.
basically the coverage since release has been extremely lopsided. plain and simple. and any positive 2k post seems to have negative spin or a dig, subliminally or not.
i just feel that considering the game is by almost all accounts the superior product, and factually, the much higher selling game, that there should be more coverage on it. more people have the game, more people like the game, it would be helpful to us if you actually talked about the game.
im not trying to come hard at you pasta. this is still an excellent site, i have it bookmarked, and im still an avid fan. but realisitically speaking, the nba coverage has truly seemed biased, and the shear number of posts has been completely lopsided. and as i said, based on the sales numbers, that shouldnt be the case.
November 16, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Sales=better game
rightttttttttt
EA live is the best game this year I dont care about sales numbers its all about my enjoyment of the game and live delivers that this year.
November 16, 2008 at 11:29 pm
@tuck
i agree, it doesnt always equal the better game. in fact, many times it doesnt equal the better game. but when a game is selling more, it should be covered more because it is relevant to more people. thats just logic.
you are entitled to feeling live is the better game, but to more people, 2k is the superior product. and im not talking sales figures. im talking about website reviews, comparative reviews, etc. just straight up ask nba gamers which they think is the better game, and a lot more people will say its 2k. thats not saying your opinion is wrong. im just saying that when more people like one product more, it should AT LEAST be covered as much as the perceived lesser game.
but all you ea fanboys are so quick to react and take every favorable 2k comment as a shot at your game. relax. you like live more, wonderful. but it doesnt change the fact that the coverage here is lopsided
November 17, 2008 at 12:52 am
2K is officially in the big leagues and accountability comes with that prestige of owning live critiically and economically. a Last year 2k’s roster updates were minimal and infrequent. We need pasta to hold them accountable for the online experience that they promise. I am a 2k fanboy, and yet am not blind to the shortcomings of the masterpiece basketball simulation, especially when it comes to the 5v5 online games.
November 17, 2008 at 1:04 am
When is NBA Live getting a game play update?
November 17, 2008 at 6:15 am
hey pasta, any word on the 2k9 patch to fix the inbound glitch/freezing?? thanks
November 17, 2008 at 6:22 am
Wow give Pasta a break. If you keep noticing him making flaws about 2k then it’s the games fault not his. A lot of you 2k fanboys are moaning because he is slating 2k9. He also does it for Live, hence why he stated that 2k updated the Iverson/Billups trade. Get your heads out of your own biased asses before you slate others.
Live is better in certain aspects, 2k is better in others. Just can’t please everyone.
So stop moaning.
November 17, 2008 at 8:51 am
pasta i have a question 4 u, which console do u think is better 360 or ps3?, i have a ps3 and i must say im a lil disappointed with graphic of nba 2k9 on the ps3.
November 17, 2008 at 9:03 am
While 2K9 is the better game as far as gameplay. It does have alot of shortcomings. Onlinewise its trash. Sure once you are in a game its great. But I try to get a ranked game and I have to try like 8 times in a row before it will even let me connect to a game. Live greatly improved their product, and delivered a stable online experience. I would rather play a game that is decent and I am able to play instantly than fuck around for 10 minutes struggling to play a game that seems hellbent on giving me a “Unable to start game. Refer to 2ksports FAQ”. Pasta probably can give a better insight on Live because you can actually get more games in. Hopefully 2k can fix this game soon. Its an awesome game, too bad it so hard to actually get games online.
November 17, 2008 at 12:29 pm
paully pringles wrote:
Well said.
November 17, 2008 at 12:44 pm
curt wrote:
I said it once & I’ll say it again, if you play games only for online play then 9 times out of 10 you will be disappointed. Just look at online play as an added bonus. I’m tired of people acting like a game is complete trash just because of online issues. What about when games didn’t even have online play? Did you still enjoy games then? My point is that yea online play is cool but it shouldn’t be the primary focus.
November 17, 2008 at 1:24 pm
@ Josh:
if they are going to sell their game on big online features like they did this year with the 5 on 5, team 2k, and the other season then they need to provide those features. online is a big part of gaming now and is only getting bigger and more important every single year
November 17, 2008 at 1:49 pm
freeze wrote:
I disagree. I think online is majorly overrated.
November 17, 2008 at 4:49 pm
nba 2k9. best sports game i have played since tecmo super bowl on nes.
online is overrated. all-star vs the cpu with portlandblazers rosters are better. online is okay for a change of pace.
all these kids do online is isomotion with lebron or kobe until they get in the lane for a dunk. when theyre not doing that, theyre jacking up 3’s with 22 seconds left on the shot clock. on defense hey just select amare stoudamire and sit underneah the basket and try to block shots. they let the computer always guard the ball.
these are only my opinions
i know i’m bitching but its true
November 17, 2008 at 5:57 pm
This is Curt again. In response to Josh. I have never had a problem with 2k’s previous iterations online offerings. They have always delivered what they have advertised online wise. I do buy my sports games for the online experience. Offline is fun but I like the unknown element a live opponent gives you. 2k hyped up this years online feature and didnt deliver. Point Blank. I bought a next gen console and game for the added feature including online. Your argument is like saying car didnt used to have A/C back in the 1920, why should you care if it doesnt have in 2008. Forget that man. . Thats a lame argument man. Like I said before….I’m a 2k fanboy and been campaigning for these dudes on a grassroots level since the first NBA2k dropped. I just want them to do what they have always done get the online component correct and deliver the full package. I mean if Live can do it why cant the King of Hoops do it. Tell me that Josh.
November 17, 2008 at 7:39 pm
@ pasta
i dont think you are in the pocket of EA, but it is a joke how u do continue to try and find the pluses of Live and the negatives of 2k.
besides the sales figures post, you havent posted anything positive about 2k, despite the fact it is the superior game. and even in that post, you took a dig about the online problems. and that problem has been fixed to an extent, and to many (as proven by the comments on your own website) isnt that big of a deal.
you never reviewed 2k. at all. despite telling us that you were going to give 2k its coverage once you had the game. i dont care if you ‘rate’ the game or whatever, thats your preference, and i understand why. but to not even cover the game in total is insulting to your readers who value your opinion and doubt that you’re biased.
yes, EA is much better supplying you with their product pre-ship date, allowing you to analyze it, play it more, etc. so all those early posts about live are deserved. it had your attention, it was pre-release date, and you didnt have 2k, so all the information was relevant to us. but 2k has been out for over a month now. you should have plenty of time to give it ample play and provide us with your feedback and opinions.
basically the coverage since release has been extremely lopsided. plain and simple. and any positive 2k post seems to have negative spin or a dig, subliminally or not.
i just feel that considering the game is by almost all accounts the superior product, and factually, the much higher selling game, that there should be more coverage on it. more people have the game, more people like the game, it would be helpful to us if you actually talked about the game.
im not trying to come hard at you pasta. this is still an excellent site, i have it bookmarked, and im still an avid fan. but realisitically speaking, the nba coverage has truly seemed biased, and the shear number of posts has been completely lopsided. and as i said, based on the sales numbers, that shouldnt be the case.
Very well said. Thats exactly how i feel.
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November 17, 2008 at 8:23 pm
Dr Logic wrote:
Excellent post.
Still waiting for those 2K9 Impressions, but Pasta keeps dodging the question. . . . oh well, his lack of a response speaks volumes.
November 17, 2008 at 8:25 pm
I thought all you guys saying Pasta was biased toward Live were wrong…but now I’m not so sure.
November 17, 2008 at 8:47 pm
BC wrote:
Pasta promised fair and EQUAL coverage when the games came out.
I even asked a month ago where his 2K9 impression were, he replied and said he didn’t get an advance copy, but after he plays it a while, he will get his impression thread going.
Well, still waiting. . . .
Pasta, I really like this site, I come here every day looking for news and such. I always thought you were kinda EA biased, but now it seems like you are WAY EA biased. Maybe I am off base, but maybe you are biased and aren’t even fully aware of it.
At least give us a response!!!!!
November 17, 2008 at 10:33 pm
ok…so when 2k9 did the iverson billup trades first….and pasta reported it…none of u assholes were hear calling him a 2k9 fanboy…. if u don’t like pasta’s coverage why are u hereeeee
November 18, 2008 at 4:16 am
Pasta never did stated, that Live is better over 2k, he do not really have personal opinions, most people have the feeling about PASTAPADRE.COM=LIVE HOMEPAGE, coz Pasta is filtering the news, more posivite EA news, more negative 2k news.
This time, Insider vs 365, if You are asking me, what is more important, adding an undrafted rookie benchplayer, who had an outstanding game or a blockbuster trade, the blockbuster trade has more significance.
Paste is an enigma for me. He seems like a serious sport-gamer, how the hell can he prefer live over 2k? Live is for children until the age of 12, live to 2k is like Facebreaker to Fight Night Round 3.
November 20, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Hmmmmm…Still no Anthony Morrow on the Warriors yet….maybe they will add when the season ends!!!!
November 20, 2008 at 1:47 pm
And the Bobcats cut Andre Brown and Linton Johnson… but good thing for nba 2k9 Brown was never on the roster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 20, 2008 at 1:49 pm
you must no be much of a basketball player or an athlete to say that a benchplayer who happens to score 37 points in one game and is averaging around 7 points a game is insignificant!!!@ ReignMan:
November 21, 2008 at 10:03 am
why do people complain about the online…it is now fixed since the new xbox update is in..