Thoughts on the Madden Roster Updates

by pastapadre
Posted January 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Throughout the year there has been much discussion around the weekly Madden roster updates. For the most part everyone has been pleased with the frequency of them and ultimately ratings are going to be overly-scrutinized and will never please everyone. However there has been some aspects that have come into question. Some of my concerns have stemmed from what appears to be heavy leaning towards past performance and not enough towards the present. This has been seen through examples such as LaDainian Tomlinson on one end when compared to rookies on the other. Joe Flacco was the most recent example I pulled for an article the other day and that generated some interesting comments.

With that all in mind I was contacted by Madden 2010 lead producer Phil Frazier for the opportunity to get some questions answered pertaining to the roster updates. After mentioning essentially what I did in the prior paragraph I received a response back which you can find after the break. With the attention roster updates in general have been getting as of late having a discussion in order to completely understand the process as well as improve on it in the future is greatly appreciated.

After reading it feel free to leave any questions or suggestions you might have in the comments and I’ll see about passing those on as well for a follow-up. Also make sure to vote in the poll at the end.

The fun part about ratings is that they are subjective. We have Jon Crankshaw who manages the overall responsibility of the ratings with help from the rest of our design team. Our thoughts about players or teams are really no different than what you see on sports shows. These are our opinions based on what we see on gameday and read about on the net. We of course try our best to rate players accurately and without any bias towards our own favorite teams.

On Flacco…
He’ll be moving up to an 82 in the next update but not because of some of the opinions on the web. We watched him very closely in the playoffs and while better than his current rating, he’s still an average QB with a great arm. In my opinion, the primary reason the Ravens are in the playoffs is because of their defense, not necessarily Joe Flacco. Flacco hasn’t been great in the playoffs and the Ravens are a ‘run first’ kind of team, throwing only when needed. His regular season numbers are 14TD’s with 12 INT’s, getting slightly worse in the playoffs. In the end, we feel 82 is a more accurate number than his previous rating.

On our ratings philosophy…
Up to this point, our general ratings philosophy has been to consider a players body of work (past and present) and consistency when generating the ratings. It’s certainly possible that this philosophy no longer applies given the new frequency of our updates. I guess you could say we understand why some think our ratings should reflect the NFL as it is today (literally) vs. who we feel is good overall. That’s the question of the week for the Madden Team moving forward. What should our ratings philosophy be given the new frequency of our updates? Should each update reflect who’s hot and who’s not in that given week? If a player has a bad game (or two) should he be hammered in ratings or should we continue to consider his career and previous performance? Based on recent community feedback, it feels like most would prefer more significant changes based on game to game performance. Maybe an online poll would help clarify this?

Tags: roster update

roster update

Oh you should also let us update the roster in franchise too based on the weekly performance. then it would be very fun to play franchise cuz i dont want to wait till the end of the season and the superbowl to play franchise
roster update

Oh you should also let us update the roster in franchise too based on the weekly performance. then it would be very fun to play franchise cuz i dont want to wait till the end of the season and the superbowl to play franchise
Steelers-6 Ravens-21

suck a dick
Steelers-6 Ravens-21

suck a dick
Tony

"If consistant play is how they're basing ratings, then how was the QB that consistantly was in the Top 5 in TD's and QB rating all year not given a ratings boost (Philip Rivers)? He finished T-1st in TD passes, 1st in QB rating, had over 4000 Pass Yards and never went up at all."

WHAT HE SAID..
Tony

"If consistant play is how they're basing ratings, then how was the QB that consistantly was in the Top 5 in TD's and QB rating all year not given a ratings boost (Philip Rivers)? He finished T-1st in TD passes, 1st in QB rating, had over 4000 Pass Yards and never went up at all."

WHAT HE SAID..
Julian

Why do people care what the OVR is.. people should be focused more on specific stats that need an increase. Im sure LT could still be a 99 HB and have speed in the 80s. He would suck in that case.

aaron

but if he had 80s speed i doubt hed be 99

Julian

Why do people care what the OVR is.. people should be focused more on specific stats that need an increase. Im sure LT could still be a 99 HB and have speed in the 80s. He would suck in that case.

aaron

but if he had 80s speed i doubt hed be 99

DevotedBronco

I think the ratings updates were great. some get missed, others don't, that's the nature of the business. This totally beats the updates from years past. Some people on here get overly passionate about week to week stats, but you could use maybe a three game spread at the most… some folks also need to realize that when a QB has great stats (or bad games), it may not be because he is the best/worst passer in the game, but also that his receivers run good routes, matchups worked well, etc. Keep up the good work.
DevotedBronco

I think the ratings updates were great. some get missed, others don't, that's the nature of the business. This totally beats the updates from years past. Some people on here get overly passionate about week to week stats, but you could use maybe a three game spread at the most… some folks also need to realize that when a QB has great stats (or bad games), it may not be because he is the best/worst passer in the game, but also that his receivers run good routes, matchups worked well, etc. Keep up the good work.
Jueno

Madden sucks this year but I still play it everyday.
Jueno

Madden sucks this year but I still play it everyday.
KRIS

ive noticed that the eagles are the best defense in the nfc. they r third behind blitsburg and sackumore(both in afc). these two teams have amazing front sevens. y dont the eagles???????? each one of them has at least 4 weapons in there front seven. we have ONE!. thats rediculious. hell even the two teams behind us have more than one weapon in there front seven(deadskins an the GI-antz). i think at least thes ppl deserve consideration for weapons

stewart bradley-brick wall or smart- had 108 tks the regular season was shuttin down that eagles middle
bunkley-bull rush-single handedly stopped two 4th down attemps by the GI-antz. 2scks 47 tckls fron dt spot
patterson-bull rush-42tkls 1sk 1 ff from the dt spot
darren howard-finese move-10 scks a ff and 1 pic and hes a freakin backup nuff said

im really pushing for the dts because we have the 4th ranked run d behind minnesota, pittsburgh and bmore all of them have power move d linemen aka bull rushers on that line. even the teams behind us do(chi. tenn. and n.y) its only fair
KRIS

ive noticed that the eagles are the best defense in the nfc. they r third behind blitsburg and sackumore(both in afc). these two teams have amazing front sevens. y dont the eagles???????? each one of them has at least 4 weapons in there front seven. we have ONE!. thats rediculious. hell even the two teams behind us have more than one weapon in there front seven(deadskins an the GI-antz). i think at least thes ppl deserve consideration for weapons

stewart bradley-brick wall or smart- had 108 tks the regular season was shuttin down that eagles middle
bunkley-bull rush-single handedly stopped two 4th down attemps by the GI-antz. 2scks 47 tckls fron dt spot
patterson-bull rush-42tkls 1sk 1 ff from the dt spot
darren howard-finese move-10 scks a ff and 1 pic and hes a freakin backup nuff said

im really pushing for the dts because we have the 4th ranked run d behind minnesota, pittsburgh and bmore all of them have power move d linemen aka bull rushers on that line. even the teams behind us do(chi. tenn. and n.y) its only fair
Mr. EA Sports

If anyone wants a piece of me in Madden so that I can actually show you that ratings doesn't matter as much as skill my PS3 account is (Mr_E-A_Sports). you got it. Now for the guys who will have trouble with this it's Mr underscore E hyphen A underscore Sports. You know where to reach me so prepare for the Lions backups to beat your Philly & Bal starters. COME ONE COME ALL!
Mr. EA Sports

If anyone wants a piece of me in Madden so that I can actually show you that ratings doesn't matter as much as skill my PS3 account is (Mr_E-A_Sports). you got it. Now for the guys who will have trouble with this it's Mr underscore E hyphen A underscore Sports. You know where to reach me so prepare for the Lions backups to beat your Philly & Bal starters. COME ONE COME ALL!
CON

I think the updates have been relatively accurate overall. However, it seems some players are just ignored for weeks before any recognition is given. For instance Sam Koch of the ravens leads the NFL in pinning teams within the 10 yd line, has a hell of a kick, and had a fake punt for a first down couple weeks back… Yet he is only an 80 or so. He is one of the best punters in the league… top 10 at least. So I just wonder if people updating the rosters just watch a couple of games and then see what commentators say on NFL network and go by that? or do they actually watch all the games? I don;t believe they watch all of the games because punters never really get highlight reels on tv and hence never get updated on madden. I'm Curious what others think…

Lake Allen

interesting point about punters and i guess kickers would be the same. there were lots of players this year ignored and also positions like offensive line which are harder to judge i guess week to week
Ray

Punters and kickers don't get respect from anybody even though they probably have the most stressfull job in the NFL, one bad move and their replaced. I definetly would be one that pushes for a boost for a guy like Koch. Also, what about Mike Scifers of San Diego? I dont know his rating off the top of my head but he has to be the best punter in football.

CON

Yea he's def another great punter. As far as Flacco and the whole current rating system goes…Frazier justifies the 82 rating by saying they watched flacco closely in the playoffs and his regular season stats are 14 td's and 12 int's. This seems like more evidence that they do not watch all of the regular season games. Most of Flacco's pics came at the beginning of the season and he was basically mirroring Matt Ryans stats for a 6 or 7 week stretch until Ryan picked up pace even further. Flacco should have been steadily updated to reflect his progression as a QB. Especially considering the Ravens schedule only got harder and harder throughout the season. There is no gameplay from previous years to look back on to rate him (I say this in reference to how they kept Tomlinson at 99 ovr based on previous abilities shown) so why keep him at a 79 for so long? This is my main problem with the updates. On a side note, I agree that Flacco would be rated an 82 based on his recent playoff performances. However, I do not agree with Fraziers explanation for why the rating is given.
biggiesmalls

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CON

I think the updates have been relatively accurate overall. However, it seems some players are just ignored for weeks before any recognition is given. For instance Sam Koch of the ravens leads the NFL in pinning teams within the 10 yd line, has a hell of a kick, and had a fake punt for a first down couple weeks back… Yet he is only an 80 or so. He is one of the best punters in the league… top 10 at least. So I just wonder if people updating the rosters just watch a couple of games and then see what commentators say on NFL network and go by that? or do they actually watch all the games? I don;t believe they watch all of the games because punters never really get highlight reels on tv and hence never get updated on madden. I'm Curious what others think…

Lake Allen

interesting point about punters and i guess kickers would be the same. there were lots of players this year ignored and also positions like offensive line which are harder to judge i guess week to week
Ray

Punters and kickers don't get respect from anybody even though they probably have the most stressfull job in the NFL, one bad move and their replaced. I definetly would be one that pushes for a boost for a guy like Koch. Also, what about Mike Scifers of San Diego? I dont know his rating off the top of my head but he has to be the best punter in football.

CON

Yea he's def another great punter. As far as Flacco and the whole current rating system goes…Frazier justifies the 82 rating by saying they watched flacco closely in the playoffs and his regular season stats are 14 td's and 12 int's. This seems like more evidence that they do not watch all of the regular season games. Most of Flacco's pics came at the beginning of the season and he was basically mirroring Matt Ryans stats for a 6 or 7 week stretch until Ryan picked up pace even further. Flacco should have been steadily updated to reflect his progression as a QB. Especially considering the Ravens schedule only got harder and harder throughout the season. There is no gameplay from previous years to look back on to rate him (I say this in reference to how they kept Tomlinson at 99 ovr based on previous abilities shown) so why keep him at a 79 for so long? This is my main problem with the updates. On a side note, I agree that Flacco would be rated an 82 based on his recent playoff performances. However, I do not agree with Fraziers explanation for why the rating is given.
biggiesmalls

Jeff Feagles is look at the carrer inside 20 yard line Mike Scifers had one good game
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Regy

someone mentioned a team chemistry thing here a while back giving players a +5/-5 ratings "range" based on a team's performance. Basically, it would mean that the Jaguar's/Brown's poor season would drop each player -4 pts across the board and the Dolphins/Falcon's surprise season woulda given all their guys a boost of +5…….so on. If a team like the Bills finished poorly, like everyone expected, they wouldn't lose anything…….ratings would be somewhat accurate. Individual players of course would still get some love on roster updates.
Regy

someone mentioned a team chemistry thing here a while back giving players a +5/-5 ratings "range" based on a team's performance. Basically, it would mean that the Jaguar's/Brown's poor season would drop each player -4 pts across the board and the Dolphins/Falcon's surprise season woulda given all their guys a boost of +5…….so on. If a team like the Bills finished poorly, like everyone expected, they wouldn't lose anything…….ratings would be somewhat accurate. Individual players of course would still get some love on roster updates.
Patrick oak

I like the current way the ratings are now i think most are fair and as far as LT he hs been nicked up all year he should have dropped but at the end of the day he is still a great running back and you have to give him the benefit of the doubt based on past performances. I wrote that flacco should have been some where around 80-85. he is a rookie and playing the quarterback position in the nfl is not the easiest of jobs even for some veteran hmmm hmm( orton, grossman, even derek anderson this year.

Chef91

Grossman played in one game due to Orton's injury. Orton played at a extremely high level before he was hurt. DA is trash but don't pull Orton into it who has way better numbers than Flacco. You know if you actually too the time to back your statements up instead of making shit up.

Patrick oak

I like the current way the ratings are now i think most are fair and as far as LT he hs been nicked up all year he should have dropped but at the end of the day he is still a great running back and you have to give him the benefit of the doubt based on past performances. I wrote that flacco should have been some where around 80-85. he is a rookie and playing the quarterback position in the nfl is not the easiest of jobs even for some veteran hmmm hmm( orton, grossman, even derek anderson this year.

Chef91

Grossman played in one game due to Orton's injury. Orton played at a extremely high level before he was hurt. DA is trash but don't pull Orton into it who has way better numbers than Flacco. You know if you actually too the time to back your statements up instead of making shit up.

AC IS ART

There needs to be more than just number ratings with these weekly updates to fully simulate the current state of the NFL. I thought the whole point of weekly-bi weekly updates was to simulate the 2009 SEASON of the NFL, yet far too many players get lifetime achievement awards when it comes to these updates. If not in Madden 10' then definetly 2011, the tendecies and stats of players throughout the week should show in the updates…(Example: Jason Campbell averages a sack every 6 passes, the roster updates should reflect that via Jason Campbell/WR Core/ & O-Line) sort of like NBA LIVE 365 Rosters but expanding from that. They have the ESPN license to fully pull this off with the statistics and with an expansion of rating catagories, future Madden titles could truly simulate the state of the NFL and provide a realistic depicition of football.
AC IS ART

There needs to be more than just number ratings with these weekly updates to fully simulate the current state of the NFL. I thought the whole point of weekly-bi weekly updates was to simulate the 2009 SEASON of the NFL, yet far too many players get lifetime achievement awards when it comes to these updates. If not in Madden 10' then definetly 2011, the tendecies and stats of players throughout the week should show in the updates…(Example: Jason Campbell averages a sack every 6 passes, the roster updates should reflect that via Jason Campbell/WR Core/ & O-Line) sort of like NBA LIVE 365 Rosters but expanding from that. They have the ESPN license to fully pull this off with the statistics and with an expansion of rating catagories, future Madden titles could truly simulate the state of the NFL and provide a realistic depicition of football.
TJdaSportsGuy

I voted but not really expecting much to come of it. Look at your poll for what they should call next year's Madden. Madden 2010 won by a HUGE margin….yet we're getting Madden 10 anyway. Good times.
TJdaSportsGuy

I voted but not really expecting much to come of it. Look at your poll for what they should call next year's Madden. Madden 2010 won by a HUGE margin….yet we're getting Madden 10 anyway. Good times.
Nfl Fan

I think madden has done a nice job this season but at the end i was not very happy about the updates the week 17 update took about 3 weeks or more and i believe and i thought to my self if there taking a long time im guessing there going to make this update the last one and LEGIT!!! joe flacco needs to go up so does Jamarcus Russell it took him about 3 games to put down his rating all the way to a 79 when i should be a 82 and he did a amazing job in the last 4 games of the season including that he has found some reciving corp from johnny lee Higgins and Chaz Schillins…. robert gallerry got update it but i think mario henderson had a good performence after taking quame harris job Jamarucs russell didnt get sack once after henderson took over left tackle…

Rambo

I have been saying the same about Henderson, he started 5 games at LT while plying in some others, and he gave up one sack with no penalties, he should be about 76 at least, not 70 overall.

Schilens and JL Higgins need upgrades too, they are the best Oakland WR's but are rated 67 and 74.
Rambo

I have been saying the same about Henderson, he started 5 games at LT while plying in some others, and he gave up one sack with no penalties, he should be about 76 at least, not 70 overall.

Schilens and JL Higgins need upgrades too, they are the best Oakland WR's but are rated 67 and 74.

Nfl Fan

I think madden has done a nice job this season but at the end i was not very happy about the updates the week 17 update took about 3 weeks or more and i believe and i thought to my self if there taking a long time im guessing there going to make this update the last one and LEGIT!!! joe flacco needs to go up so does Jamarcus Russell it took him about 3 games to put down his rating all the way to a 79 when i should be a 82 and he did a amazing job in the last 4 games of the season including that he has found some reciving corp from johnny lee Higgins and Chaz Schillins…. robert gallerry got update it but i think mario henderson had a good performence after taking quame harris job Jamarucs russell didnt get sack once after henderson took over left tackle…

Rambo

I have been saying the same about Henderson, he started 5 games at LT while plying in some others, and he gave up one sack with no penalties, he should be about 76 at least, not 70 overall.

Schilens and JL Higgins need upgrades too, they are the best Oakland WR's but are rated 67 and 74.

warriors 52 20

great post and ravens fans know flacco is not close to matty ice but he is not a 79 . im very happy with the 82. no more rants from me til next year love the site pasta. thanks for putting in the call.
warriors 52 20

great post and ravens fans know flacco is not close to matty ice but he is not a 79 . im very happy with the 82. no more rants from me til next year love the site pasta. thanks for putting in the call.
Mitch

My question is HOW can a team that is rated 78 Overall be in the NFC Championship. I mean if the Cardinals don't get some credit in the team ratings this next update I would have to question Mr. Frazier about watching the playoffs. They D shutdown two of the best run games in the NFL, forced 7 turnovers in two playoff games, and limited the teams to 37 total points. Their D def. needs a boost and Fitzy needs to be a 99 overall idc what anyones says about moss, johnson, or smith. I'm not a fan of the Cardinals I just feel they are not represented fair in madden. I'm a huge Panthers fan and was hard to watch the game on saturday.
Mitch

Also Edge and Hightower need to have better ratings as well. I mean 84 and 79 are just crazy right now. These are backs that are rated the same as Hightower who only had 400 yards but 10 TD's (Mike Bell 3rd string, Kenny Watson 3rd String, Carnell Williams 3 games in two years gets you an 85, Kolby Smith 3rd string, Tashard Choice 2nd string, DeShaun Foster 3rd sting and 81 what!!!!!!!, Rudi Johnson he is stealing your hearts if you think he's worth an 80 haha, I could name more but i know ratings will never make everyone happy but these simple things are over looked every ratings. You see people who dont play stay the same and if you understand the NFL the best players play.

KRIS

EDGE AND HIGHTOWER SUCK. lets wait and see what they do to my eagles. remeber what happened last time?

koolaid251

u suck

Mitch

My question is HOW can a team that is rated 78 Overall be in the NFC Championship. I mean if the Cardinals don't get some credit in the team ratings this next update I would have to question Mr. Frazier about watching the playoffs. They D shutdown two of the best run games in the NFL, forced 7 turnovers in two playoff games, and limited the teams to 37 total points. Their D def. needs a boost and Fitzy needs to be a 99 overall idc what anyones says about moss, johnson, or smith. I'm not a fan of the Cardinals I just feel they are not represented fair in madden. I'm a huge Panthers fan and was hard to watch the game on saturday.
Mitch

Also Edge and Hightower need to have better ratings as well. I mean 84 and 79 are just crazy right now. These are backs that are rated the same as Hightower who only had 400 yards but 10 TD's (Mike Bell 3rd string, Kenny Watson 3rd String, Carnell Williams 3 games in two years gets you an 85, Kolby Smith 3rd string, Tashard Choice 2nd string, DeShaun Foster 3rd sting and 81 what!!!!!!!, Rudi Johnson he is stealing your hearts if you think he's worth an 80 haha, I could name more but i know ratings will never make everyone happy but these simple things are over looked every ratings. You see people who dont play stay the same and if you understand the NFL the best players play.

KRIS

EDGE AND HIGHTOWER SUCK. lets wait and see what they do to my eagles. remeber what happened last time?

koolaid251

u suck

Dude

These guys who do the ratings, I would argue, do nothing close to 'watching games', or researching. There is no way they can know about every single team, with every 52 man roster, every single little detail. There are so many mistakes made its a joke. Madden 09 is an absolute farce, and an embarrassment of a football game. Reading what that EA Sports guy said, you could clearly see that he could give two shits about our opinion.

The Madden guys are only concerned about marketing, money making, merchandising…that sort of thing. what a joke
Dude

These guys who do the ratings, I would argue, do nothing close to 'watching games', or researching. There is no way they can know about every single team, with every 52 man roster, every single little detail. There are so many mistakes made its a joke. Madden 09 is an absolute farce, and an embarrassment of a football game. Reading what that EA Sports guy said, you could clearly see that he could give two shits about our opinion.

The Madden guys are only concerned about marketing, money making, merchandising…that sort of thing. what a joke
Bears all day

I dont know why everybody is concerned with Joe flacco. yea hes a decent qb and he will get better in the future. hes not as good as matt ryan. A few years ago Rex grossman took his team to the superbowl and he was only like a 80 or sumthing IMO if anything needs to be changed its the cowboys and patriots overall stats. IMO i think the pats are as good as the dolphins this year (without brady and maroney of course)and i hate the dolphins but look at the overall stats 78 vs 97 lol the dolphins made playoffs pats didnt. so are those rating accurate for who the better overall team is. cowboys no playoffs has talent but OVERALL AS A TEAM THEY SUCK. teamwork is the key and if teams rated 97 arent even making playofss wtf. why are they the best (and in my opinion the cheapest …overrated and mismatched compared to teams that are better.) i think chad pennington is better then tony romo i also think matt ryan is ….just my opinion

KRIS

UR RIGHT. take t.o and witten away from romo…..then insert greg camarillo and anthony fasano. what do u really honestly think romos stats would look like

Mr. EA Sports

Probably about 30 TD's 12 INT's 4500 yards passing and a 98-105 passer rating if he's completely healthy.

KRIS

lol ur blinded by romos cock if u think that would happen
KRIS

lol ur blinded by romos cock if u think that would happen

Mr. EA Sports

Probably about 30 TD's 12 INT's 4500 yards passing and a 98-105 passer rating if he's completely healthy.

Bears all day

I dont know why everybody is concerned with Joe flacco. yea hes a decent qb and he will get better in the future. hes not as good as matt ryan. A few years ago Rex grossman took his team to the superbowl and he was only like a 80 or sumthing IMO if anything needs to be changed its the cowboys and patriots overall stats. IMO i think the pats are as good as the dolphins this year (without brady and maroney of course)and i hate the dolphins but look at the overall stats 78 vs 97 lol the dolphins made playoffs pats didnt. so are those rating accurate for who the better overall team is. cowboys no playoffs has talent but OVERALL AS A TEAM THEY SUCK. teamwork is the key and if teams rated 97 arent even making playofss wtf. why are they the best (and in my opinion the cheapest …overrated and mismatched compared to teams that are better.) i think chad pennington is better then tony romo i also think matt ryan is ….just my opinion

KRIS

UR RIGHT. take t.o and witten away from romo…..then insert greg camarillo and anthony fasano. what do u really honestly think romos stats would look like

Mr. EA Sports

Probably about 30 TD's 12 INT's 4500 yards passing and a 98-105 passer rating if he's completely healthy.

KRIS

lol ur blinded by romos cock if u think that would happen

bj from ur mommy

steelers 96
ravens 93
titans 93
cards 89
giants 92
panthers 91
cowboys 88 (just like chargers who arte a better TEAM)
Patriots 91

http://intensedebate.com/people/Coming_of_Tan Coming_of_Tan

The EA podcast stated team ratings are based on talent. The Cowboys are rated so high due to all of the great players on their team. I hate the 'boys but they are stacked so they deserve their rating. Wade Phillips can be blamed for not getting the most out of them…

Mr. EA Sports

Finally someone with sense. Everybody listen to this man you have to recognize talent and the cowboys have the most talent.
Mr. EA Sports

Finally someone with sense. Everybody listen to this man you have to recognize talent and the cowboys have the most talent.

KRIS

I LUV HOW U DONT HAVE THE EAGLES UP THERE

bj from ur mommy

steelers 96
ravens 93
titans 93
cards 89
giants 92
panthers 91
cowboys 88 (just like chargers who arte a better TEAM)
Patriots 91

http://intensedebate.com/people/Coming_of_Tan Coming_of_Tan

The EA podcast stated team ratings are based on talent. The Cowboys are rated so high due to all of the great players on their team. I hate the 'boys but they are stacked so they deserve their rating. Wade Phillips can be blamed for not getting the most out of them…

Mr. EA Sports

Finally someone with sense. Everybody listen to this man you have to recognize talent and the cowboys have the most talent.

KRIS

I LUV HOW U DONT HAVE THE EAGLES UP THERE

champ

the cardinals are one game away from the superbowl ……but they are rated 79 if u make it that far to me your the fourth best team ….
champ

the cardinals are one game away from the superbowl ……but they are rated 79 if u make it that far to me your the fourth best team ….
David Backes

I think all that backups who play like starters should get 85-88

examples-Chester Taylor, Buckhalter, Sproles etc. Did you all know Larry Johnson was an 85 before he bacame the starter over Holmes?
David Backes

I think all that backups who play like starters should get 85-88

examples-Chester Taylor, Buckhalter, Sproles etc. Did you all know Larry Johnson was an 85 before he bacame the starter over Holmes?
PackDude425

Hey Mr. Ea Sports I have madden 09 and a ps3 as well. Maybe I could play you sometime.

Gamer tag: PackDude425

aka acount is:PackDude425

I will for sure be thee Packers
PackDude425

Hey Mr. Ea Sports I have madden 09 and a ps3 as well. Maybe I could play you sometime.

Gamer tag: PackDude425

aka acount is:PackDude425

I will for sure be thee Packers
Coming_of_Tan

As a Ravens fan, I think an 82 is fair.
Coming_of_Tan

As a Ravens fan, I think an 82 is fair.
PackDude425

ok I just go my ps3 and I have a question:

Can you have headphones to talk while playing online? I had a lot of fun with that on the 360 but I got the ps3 for 09 the sow
PackDude425

ok I just go my ps3 and I have a question:

Can you have headphones to talk while playing online? I had a lot of fun with that on the 360 but I got the ps3 for 09 the sow