Thoughts on the Madden Roster Updates

by pastapadre
Posted January 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Throughout the year there has been much discussion around the weekly Madden roster updates. For the most part everyone has been pleased with the frequency of them and ultimately ratings are going to be overly-scrutinized and will never please everyone. However there has been some aspects that have come into question. Some of my concerns have stemmed from what appears to be heavy leaning towards past performance and not enough towards the present. This has been seen through examples such as LaDainian Tomlinson on one end when compared to rookies on the other. Joe Flacco was the most recent example I pulled for an article the other day and that generated some interesting comments.

With that all in mind I was contacted by Madden 2010 lead producer Phil Frazier for the opportunity to get some questions answered pertaining to the roster updates. After mentioning essentially what I did in the prior paragraph I received a response back which you can find after the break. With the attention roster updates in general have been getting as of late having a discussion in order to completely understand the process as well as improve on it in the future is greatly appreciated.

After reading it feel free to leave any questions or suggestions you might have in the comments and I’ll see about passing those on as well for a follow-up. Also make sure to vote in the poll at the end.

The fun part about ratings is that they are subjective. We have Jon Crankshaw who manages the overall responsibility of the ratings with help from the rest of our design team. Our thoughts about players or teams are really no different than what you see on sports shows. These are our opinions based on what we see on gameday and read about on the net. We of course try our best to rate players accurately and without any bias towards our own favorite teams.

On Flacco…
He’ll be moving up to an 82 in the next update but not because of some of the opinions on the web. We watched him very closely in the playoffs and while better than his current rating, he’s still an average QB with a great arm. In my opinion, the primary reason the Ravens are in the playoffs is because of their defense, not necessarily Joe Flacco. Flacco hasn’t been great in the playoffs and the Ravens are a ‘run first’ kind of team, throwing only when needed. His regular season numbers are 14TD’s with 12 INT’s, getting slightly worse in the playoffs. In the end, we feel 82 is a more accurate number than his previous rating.

On our ratings philosophy…
Up to this point, our general ratings philosophy has been to consider a players body of work (past and present) and consistency when generating the ratings. It’s certainly possible that this philosophy no longer applies given the new frequency of our updates. I guess you could say we understand why some think our ratings should reflect the NFL as it is today (literally) vs. who we feel is good overall. That’s the question of the week for the Madden Team moving forward. What should our ratings philosophy be given the new frequency of our updates? Should each update reflect who’s hot and who’s not in that given week? If a player has a bad game (or two) should he be hammered in ratings or should we continue to consider his career and previous performance? Based on recent community feedback, it feels like most would prefer more significant changes based on game to game performance. Maybe an online poll would help clarify this?

Tags: roster update

Mr. EA Sports

Here is a list of my overrated players
10)Peppers-pass rusher with little else skill. Ask him to run defend & he turns into a gigantic paperweight
9)Suggs-one trick pony plays only for sacks never the run
8)Cutler- how does a guy throw 18 INT's with a 6'4" WR and go 8-8 for the year?
7)Flacco-never throws in passing situations
6)D. Hall-when has he shutdown someone?anyone?
5)K. Warner-strong arm but body is built like a boy scout. Once he gets hit he forgets all of the plays
4)Tomlinson-might be on his last cylinder. his engine is about to give out
3)Merriman-one trick pony. horrible in the run absolutely horrible against the run. just a pass rusher
2)McNabb-bad accuracy especially on short routes. bad sense of the game. stays hurt. can't win when it counts
1)Eli Manning-looked lost without a 6'6" WR. makes you question how lucky he really was last year

Also I would like to mention Ed Reed I know that everyone thinks he's a great player which he is but he's a one trick pony. He lines up 30 yard deep and plays just the pass never the run. Watch the tape fellas he gets about 2 tackles a game because he doesn't play the multifaceted roles that a B. Dawkins or Polamalu. He's overrated in the sense that he doesn't do more but he is great at playing the pass which is all Baltimore requires him to do.

Oh an let me add Asante Samuel CB for Philly not for the overrated list but to give him props because that guy is lights out. Best shutdown corner in the game right next to C. Bailey and T. Newman.

I2bsolucky

McNabb can't win when it counts? Your kidding right?
I2bsolucky

McNabb can't win when it counts? Your kidding right?
sportz

you're an idiot, i'm sorry. i agree with some of your things, such as Merriman, Tomilnson, and McNabb. But Peppers? Did you watch him stuff the screen play several yards in the back field? and i hate Cutler just as much as the next person but he had NO running game ALL year. 6 RBs on IR or something like that? how's that for a one dimensional offense and STILL putting up 4500 passing yards and 25 TDs. Flacco? He's a rookie. You probably watched two games with him, the playoffs. so no shit. rookie QB, rookie coach. You going to let him go against the Titans defense and try to squeeze in a 3rd and long under pressure? No. you punt the ball and let the defense take care of business. you don't try to beat yourself on offense with turnovers when you have the caliber of defense that baltimore has.

but the thing that pissed me off the most, Ed Reed. Yeah, no shit he plays deep, that's the point. It's his job to play deep. The SS for Baltimore plays short for the run. so look at dawkins stats, high tackles and 1 int, then Reed, lower tackles and 9 INTs. different roles for different teams. ed reed is a ball hawk. and he plays special teams, too. funny, i don't ever see dawkins out on special teams. and by the way, Reed has played like this ONLY recently. check out his earlier stats. putting up 86 tackles his rookie season? please do some research before you bash one of the potentially greatest players to ever play the safety position.

Mr. Ea Sports

Okay I now really believe that all everyone just watches SportsCenter and doesn't actually break down film. Let's start with Peppers people seem to think that because you have a lot of sacks that is what makes you a great player. Yes sacks do mean that you can close the deal by getting to the QB but in most situations it also means that you give up playing the run to give yourself the best shot at getting a sack. Some guys can do both such as T. Cole, C. Canty, A. Smith & J. Tuck but many can not. I bring up Peppers because although he has improved this year against the run (contract year) he still is too susceptible to the inside rush or delayed handoff. The tape doesn't lie, the best way to beat a speed rusher is to run where he should have been, that's why the Peppers, Suggs & Merrimans of the world get runs in their direction so much. With Cutler maybe I was a little hard on Cutler because you did bring up a good point his running game was anemic and they required too much from the pass. With that said he has arguably the best young receiving corps along with Arizona, yet he doesn't get the same production as Arizona with practically the same offense. Last, Ed Reed I know is everyone's favorite player because he can pick off passes and take them to the house, but he is not a complete player compared to other safeties. B. Dawkins and T. Polamalu are required to play the run along with the pass. I know that B. Dawkins play has fallen off and he plays closer and Polamalu plays mostly the strong side but they make plays in both the run and the pass. B. Dawkins and Polamalu can stop a run for a loss, get a sack and INT a pass covering a WR. Ed Reed doesn't do tackles for losses or sacks just plays in coverage. Also I though it was kind of funny that someone brought up Ed Reed in his younger days getting more tackles if you want to bring up younger days than the two BEST SAFETIES IN THEIR PRIME are R. Harrison and B. Dawkins they did everything to a high level and never gave up a completed pass against them in their prime. You can't say the same about Ed Reed if a team runs the ball or just throws short routes Ed Reed will have absolutely no factor as to the outcome of the game.

KRIS

how in the hell do u put CANTY any where near the names of trent cole and justin tuck??????? then asante with newman??? u just gotta have a cowboy somewhere huh? and mcnabb is overrated huh? when mcnabb had t.o for 1 YEAR we went to the SB. romo has had t.o. for 3 YEARS and has mustered up two first game playoff loses and a broken pinky. tell me whos overrated. how about u take that "one trick pony" and ride it all the way up romos ass. i kno u would just luv that

Mr. EA Sports

Your right how do you put T. Cole and J. Tuck with the likes of C. Canty? You don't, those tow take a back seat to C. Canty and his dominate play against both the run and the pass. Asante I gave props too because I watched the film and he does play kind of a quasi-man to man zone coverage which he is very good at, but Newman is on a whole other level. He plays both man to man with little zone coverage because he can just shutdown the right side of the field like a young Deion Sanders.The year McNabb went to the Super Bowl they had the best team by far in the league were completely healthy and choked in the Super Bowl. The NFC at that time was extremely weak. Today the NFC is much stronger the NFC East is the strongest it has ever been and injuries have cost the cowboys their true place at the top. When McNabb steps up in big games get back at me otherwise go to the tape because the film don't lie.
KRIS

uh mcnabb is in the nfc championship game and his star rumnnigback is averagin less than 40 yds a game rushing in the playoffs. so i think hes steppin up and carrying that offense. more than i can say for the real choke artist of the nfc
Mr. EA Sports

Your right how do you put T. Cole and J. Tuck with the likes of C. Canty? You don't, those tow take a back seat to C. Canty and his dominate play against both the run and the pass. Asante I gave props too because I watched the film and he does play kind of a quasi-man to man zone coverage which he is very good at, but Newman is on a whole other level. He plays both man to man with little zone coverage because he can just shutdown the right side of the field like a young Deion Sanders.The year McNabb went to the Super Bowl they had the best team by far in the league were completely healthy and choked in the Super Bowl. The NFC at that time was extremely weak. Today the NFC is much stronger the NFC East is the strongest it has ever been and injuries have cost the cowboys their true place at the top. When McNabb steps up in big games get back at me otherwise go to the tape because the film don't lie.

KRIS

how in the hell do u put CANTY any where near the names of trent cole and justin tuck??????? then asante with newman??? u just gotta have a cowboy somewhere huh? and mcnabb is overrated huh? when mcnabb had t.o for 1 YEAR we went to the SB. romo has had t.o. for 3 YEARS and has mustered up two first game playoff loses and a broken pinky. tell me whos overrated. how about u take that "one trick pony" and ride it all the way up romos ass. i kno u would just luv that

Mr. Ea Sports

Okay I now really believe that all everyone just watches SportsCenter and doesn't actually break down film. Let's start with Peppers people seem to think that because you have a lot of sacks that is what makes you a great player. Yes sacks do mean that you can close the deal by getting to the QB but in most situations it also means that you give up playing the run to give yourself the best shot at getting a sack. Some guys can do both such as T. Cole, C. Canty, A. Smith & J. Tuck but many can not. I bring up Peppers because although he has improved this year against the run (contract year) he still is too susceptible to the inside rush or delayed handoff. The tape doesn't lie, the best way to beat a speed rusher is to run where he should have been, that's why the Peppers, Suggs & Merrimans of the world get runs in their direction so much. With Cutler maybe I was a little hard on Cutler because you did bring up a good point his running game was anemic and they required too much from the pass. With that said he has arguably the best young receiving corps along with Arizona, yet he doesn't get the same production as Arizona with practically the same offense. Last, Ed Reed I know is everyone's favorite player because he can pick off passes and take them to the house, but he is not a complete player compared to other safeties. B. Dawkins and T. Polamalu are required to play the run along with the pass. I know that B. Dawkins play has fallen off and he plays closer and Polamalu plays mostly the strong side but they make plays in both the run and the pass. B. Dawkins and Polamalu can stop a run for a loss, get a sack and INT a pass covering a WR. Ed Reed doesn't do tackles for losses or sacks just plays in coverage. Also I though it was kind of funny that someone brought up Ed Reed in his younger days getting more tackles if you want to bring up younger days than the two BEST SAFETIES IN THEIR PRIME are R. Harrison and B. Dawkins they did everything to a high level and never gave up a completed pass against them in their prime. You can't say the same about Ed Reed if a team runs the ball or just throws short routes Ed Reed will have absolutely no factor as to the outcome of the game.

sportz

you're an idiot, i'm sorry. i agree with some of your things, such as Merriman, Tomilnson, and McNabb. But Peppers? Did you watch him stuff the screen play several yards in the back field? and i hate Cutler just as much as the next person but he had NO running game ALL year. 6 RBs on IR or something like that? how's that for a one dimensional offense and STILL putting up 4500 passing yards and 25 TDs. Flacco? He's a rookie. You probably watched two games with him, the playoffs. so no shit. rookie QB, rookie coach. You going to let him go against the Titans defense and try to squeeze in a 3rd and long under pressure? No. you punt the ball and let the defense take care of business. you don't try to beat yourself on offense with turnovers when you have the caliber of defense that baltimore has.

but the thing that pissed me off the most, Ed Reed. Yeah, no shit he plays deep, that's the point. It's his job to play deep. The SS for Baltimore plays short for the run. so look at dawkins stats, high tackles and 1 int, then Reed, lower tackles and 9 INTs. different roles for different teams. ed reed is a ball hawk. and he plays special teams, too. funny, i don't ever see dawkins out on special teams. and by the way, Reed has played like this ONLY recently. check out his earlier stats. putting up 86 tackles his rookie season? please do some research before you bash one of the potentially greatest players to ever play the safety position.
wow

wow your just an ignorant lil bitch who doesnt know about football. peppers had 12.5 sacks this year. suggs had 9 sacks and he deserves his ratings. cutler was voted to probowl and it is not the receiver, he just gotta mature a lil bit. flacco led the team to AFC championship you moron. k.Warner is playing wayy better than anyone else this season and he might even lead the team to the super bowl. i understand about tomlinson. but merriman is INJURED. McNabb led the team to NFL Championship. Eli played better than last year without Plaxico and he was voted to probowl. wow. just wow dude

Mr. EA Sports

I already explained Peppers, Suggs & Cutler in the earlier post^^. Flacco doesn't throw the ball so let me put this in layman's terms so you can understand. Darren Sproles had more big plays than the starting RB and a lot of teams in the NFL. He had a high yards per carry at 5.4 and yards per catch at 11.8 this season. So would you say that he is a great RB? You can not really say because much is not required from him teams do not really game plan for him as is the case for Flacco. He doesn't pass the ball in a ton of situations like 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15 and 3rd and 20. Unless it's 3rd and 5 where there is a chance for the run Flacco may pass the ball. Just because he is in the Conference Championship doesn't mean that he is a great QB. Even if he gets to the Super Bowl & wins doesn't make him a great QB. Just look at past Super Bowl winners T. Dilfer, B. Johnson, & Eli Manning are they great QB's ? Or did they play with great defenses? K. Warner is about as overrated as they come as a QB tat quits when he gets hit or doesn't have optimal weather conditions. Look at his record away from home or playing in the northeast and it's horrible. Look at his record when he plays against a fast defense and it's horrible. These are the facts the tape doesn't lie. When you mention Merriman you speak as if he just dominates games. He does one thing only rush the passer. Merrriman and D. Ware are the best at getting to the QB in fact I would say that Merriman is better. But ask him to stop the run and he's clueless. 6'5" 275lbs and can not stop the run. Many of San Diego's problems stem from those LB's not stopping the run in fact teams ran right at him when he played. Look up the past couple of years he played and the rushing efforts against him. Meriman is still trying to bring A. Peterson down. McNabb is an enigma when the kettle gets hot he folds like a lawn chair. Eli PLAYED WORSE when P. Burress was not playing do you know what Eli 's rating was after his safety vale shot himself? 88.5 vs WAS, 73.5 vs PHI, 43.9 vs DAL, 94.8 vs CAR, 76.4 vs MIN & 40.7 vs Philly. Yeah he sure di light it up when his margin of error was smaller. Oh and he lost 4 of those 6 games.

sportz

Great defenses huh? Cowboys defense must suck ass then because Romo is SOOOOO amazing and he can't even get them a playoff win. how about that…
sportz

and I'll give you Ware. Ware is an amazing player. I wish him and Harrison could have shared the Defensive Player of the Year award. Ware kept the cowboys in a lot of games they should have had no part in. but i still don't understand your bashing of Ed Reed. With the addition of Landry and Leonhard, Reed has dropped back into coverage more because he plays the pass better than either of those other two. And what about the tape you always seem to be watching? Reed is a big hit safety that punishes receivers that dare cross the middle of the field. and what about his huge hit in the backfield of the last Ravens home game that was nullified because of a stupid defensive penalty? Maybe Reed isn't as much of a run stopping force as Dawkins but then Dawkins doesn't defend the pass as well as Reed. Reed often plays with a game changing mentality, picking QBs apart. Look at the first playoff game. Pennington had great numbers with a below par offense all season and fell apart against the Ravens, specifically with Reed (though he had a bit of help.)

Mr. EA Sports

Comparing B. Dawkins to E. Reed is like comparing Plato to Aristotle. One was the teacher the other a student. If not for B. Dawkins their wouldn't be an E. Reed. Dawkins paved the way for cover safeties in the league. and yes B. Dawkins in his heyday was the BEST safety by far unquestioned too much film on that one buddy. Don't make me pullout the archives on you. E. Reed is a great cover safety but that is all he is when he makes plays elsewhere than you can put him up there with the Troy's and Dawk's.
Rod Woodson

Hey don't forget about me. i am the leader in int. by a safety in NFL history.
sportz

Agreed. Rod Woodson did more as a cover safety and came before Dawkins. So if anything, WOODSON paved the way.

Mr. EA Sports

I already explained Peppers, Suggs & Cutler in the earlier post^^. Flacco doesn't throw the ball so let me put this in layman's terms so you can understand. Darren Sproles had more big plays than the starting RB and a lot of teams in the NFL. He had a high yards per carry at 5.4 and yards per catch at 11.8 this season. So would you say that he is a great RB? You can not really say because much is not required from him teams do not really game plan for him as is the case for Flacco. He doesn't pass the ball in a ton of situations like 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15 and 3rd and 20. Unless it's 3rd and 5 where there is a chance for the run Flacco may pass the ball. Just because he is in the Conference Championship doesn't mean that he is a great QB. Even if he gets to the Super Bowl & wins doesn't make him a great QB. Just look at past Super Bowl winners T. Dilfer, B. Johnson, & Eli Manning are they great QB's ? Or did they play with great defenses? K. Warner is about as overrated as they come as a QB tat quits when he gets hit or doesn't have optimal weather conditions. Look at his record away from home or playing in the northeast and it's horrible. Look at his record when he plays against a fast defense and it's horrible. These are the facts the tape doesn't lie. When you mention Merriman you speak as if he just dominates games. He does one thing only rush the passer. Merrriman and D. Ware are the best at getting to the QB in fact I would say that Merriman is better. But ask him to stop the run and he's clueless. 6'5" 275lbs and can not stop the run. Many of San Diego's problems stem from those LB's not stopping the run in fact teams ran right at him when he played. Look up the past couple of years he played and the rushing efforts against him. Meriman is still trying to bring A. Peterson down. McNabb is an enigma when the kettle gets hot he folds like a lawn chair. Eli PLAYED WORSE when P. Burress was not playing do you know what Eli 's rating was after his safety vale shot himself? 88.5 vs WAS, 73.5 vs PHI, 43.9 vs DAL, 94.8 vs CAR, 76.4 vs MIN & 40.7 vs Philly. Yeah he sure di light it up when his margin of error was smaller. Oh and he lost 4 of those 6 games.

wow

wow your just an ignorant lil bitch who doesnt know about football. peppers had 12.5 sacks this year. suggs had 9 sacks and he deserves his ratings. cutler was voted to probowl and it is not the receiver, he just gotta mature a lil bit. flacco led the team to AFC championship you moron. k.Warner is playing wayy better than anyone else this season and he might even lead the team to the super bowl. i understand about tomlinson. but merriman is INJURED. McNabb led the team to NFL Championship. Eli played better than last year without Plaxico and he was voted to probowl. wow. just wow dude
Joker

dat #1 is rite Eli was lucky to win the SB because of one tall ass WR without him he nothing more than a rookie

as for Brady he was winning with average Wr's in Branch and Patten and Givens be fore gettin Moss
Joker

dat #1 is rite Eli was lucky to win the SB because of one tall ass WR without him he nothing more than a rookie

as for Brady he was winning with average Wr's in Branch and Patten and Givens be fore gettin Moss

Mr. EA Sports

Here is a list of my overrated players
10)Peppers-pass rusher with little else skill. Ask him to run defend & he turns into a gigantic paperweight
9)Suggs-one trick pony plays only for sacks never the run
8)Cutler- how does a guy throw 18 INT's with a 6'4" WR and go 8-8 for the year?
7)Flacco-never throws in passing situations
6)D. Hall-when has he shutdown someone?anyone?
5)K. Warner-strong arm but body is built like a boy scout. Once he gets hit he forgets all of the plays
4)Tomlinson-might be on his last cylinder. his engine is about to give out
3)Merriman-one trick pony. horrible in the run absolutely horrible against the run. just a pass rusher
2)McNabb-bad accuracy especially on short routes. bad sense of the game. stays hurt. can't win when it counts
1)Eli Manning-looked lost without a 6'6" WR. makes you question how lucky he really was last year

Also I would like to mention Ed Reed I know that everyone thinks he's a great player which he is but he's a one trick pony. He lines up 30 yard deep and plays just the pass never the run. Watch the tape fellas he gets about 2 tackles a game because he doesn't play the multifaceted roles that a B. Dawkins or Polamalu. He's overrated in the sense that he doesn't do more but he is great at playing the pass which is all Baltimore requires him to do.

Oh an let me add Asante Samuel CB for Philly not for the overrated list but to give him props because that guy is lights out. Best shutdown corner in the game right next to C. Bailey and T. Newman.
Mr. EA Sports

Here is a list of my overrated players
10)Peppers-pass rusher with little else skill. Ask him to run defend & he turns into a gigantic paperweight
9)Suggs-one trick pony plays only for sacks never the run
8)Cutler- how does a guy throw 18 INT's with a 6'4" WR and go 8-8 for the year?
7)Flacco-never throws in passing situations
6)D. Hall-when has he shutdown someone?anyone?
5)K. Warner-strong arm but body is built like a boy scout. Once he gets hit he forgets all of the plays
4)Tomlinson-might be on his last cylinder. his engine is about to give out
3)Merriman-one trick pony. horrible in the run absolutely horrible against the run. just a pass rusher
2)McNabb-bad accuracy especially on short routes. bad sense of the game. stays hurt. can't win when it counts
1)Eli Manning-looked lost without a 6'6" WR. makes you question how lucky he really was last year

Also I would like to mention Ed Reed I know that everyone thinks he's a great player which he is but he's a one trick pony. He lines up 30 yard deep and plays just the pass never the run. Watch the tape fellas he gets about 2 tackles a game because he doesn't play the multifaceted roles that a B. Dawkins or Polamalu. He's overrated in the sense that he doesn't do more but he is great at playing the pass which is all Baltimore requires him to do.

Oh an let me add Asante Samuel CB for Philly not for the overrated list but to give him props because that guy is lights out. Best shutdown corner in the game right next to C. Bailey and T. Newman.

I2bsolucky

McNabb can't win when it counts? Your kidding right?
sportz

you're an idiot, i'm sorry. i agree with some of your things, such as Merriman, Tomilnson, and McNabb. But Peppers? Did you watch him stuff the screen play several yards in the back field? and i hate Cutler just as much as the next person but he had NO running game ALL year. 6 RBs on IR or something like that? how's that for a one dimensional offense and STILL putting up 4500 passing yards and 25 TDs. Flacco? He's a rookie. You probably watched two games with him, the playoffs. so no shit. rookie QB, rookie coach. You going to let him go against the Titans defense and try to squeeze in a 3rd and long under pressure? No. you punt the ball and let the defense take care of business. you don't try to beat yourself on offense with turnovers when you have the caliber of defense that baltimore has.

but the thing that pissed me off the most, Ed Reed. Yeah, no shit he plays deep, that's the point. It's his job to play deep. The SS for Baltimore plays short for the run. so look at dawkins stats, high tackles and 1 int, then Reed, lower tackles and 9 INTs. different roles for different teams. ed reed is a ball hawk. and he plays special teams, too. funny, i don't ever see dawkins out on special teams. and by the way, Reed has played like this ONLY recently. check out his earlier stats. putting up 86 tackles his rookie season? please do some research before you bash one of the potentially greatest players to ever play the safety position.

Mr. Ea Sports

Okay I now really believe that all everyone just watches SportsCenter and doesn't actually break down film. Let's start with Peppers people seem to think that because you have a lot of sacks that is what makes you a great player. Yes sacks do mean that you can close the deal by getting to the QB but in most situations it also means that you give up playing the run to give yourself the best shot at getting a sack. Some guys can do both such as T. Cole, C. Canty, A. Smith & J. Tuck but many can not. I bring up Peppers because although he has improved this year against the run (contract year) he still is too susceptible to the inside rush or delayed handoff. The tape doesn't lie, the best way to beat a speed rusher is to run where he should have been, that's why the Peppers, Suggs & Merrimans of the world get runs in their direction so much. With Cutler maybe I was a little hard on Cutler because you did bring up a good point his running game was anemic and they required too much from the pass. With that said he has arguably the best young receiving corps along with Arizona, yet he doesn't get the same production as Arizona with practically the same offense. Last, Ed Reed I know is everyone's favorite player because he can pick off passes and take them to the house, but he is not a complete player compared to other safeties. B. Dawkins and T. Polamalu are required to play the run along with the pass. I know that B. Dawkins play has fallen off and he plays closer and Polamalu plays mostly the strong side but they make plays in both the run and the pass. B. Dawkins and Polamalu can stop a run for a loss, get a sack and INT a pass covering a WR. Ed Reed doesn't do tackles for losses or sacks just plays in coverage. Also I though it was kind of funny that someone brought up Ed Reed in his younger days getting more tackles if you want to bring up younger days than the two BEST SAFETIES IN THEIR PRIME are R. Harrison and B. Dawkins they did everything to a high level and never gave up a completed pass against them in their prime. You can't say the same about Ed Reed if a team runs the ball or just throws short routes Ed Reed will have absolutely no factor as to the outcome of the game.

KRIS

how in the hell do u put CANTY any where near the names of trent cole and justin tuck??????? then asante with newman??? u just gotta have a cowboy somewhere huh? and mcnabb is overrated huh? when mcnabb had t.o for 1 YEAR we went to the SB. romo has had t.o. for 3 YEARS and has mustered up two first game playoff loses and a broken pinky. tell me whos overrated. how about u take that "one trick pony" and ride it all the way up romos ass. i kno u would just luv that

Mr. EA Sports

Your right how do you put T. Cole and J. Tuck with the likes of C. Canty? You don't, those tow take a back seat to C. Canty and his dominate play against both the run and the pass. Asante I gave props too because I watched the film and he does play kind of a quasi-man to man zone coverage which he is very good at, but Newman is on a whole other level. He plays both man to man with little zone coverage because he can just shutdown the right side of the field like a young Deion Sanders.The year McNabb went to the Super Bowl they had the best team by far in the league were completely healthy and choked in the Super Bowl. The NFC at that time was extremely weak. Today the NFC is much stronger the NFC East is the strongest it has ever been and injuries have cost the cowboys their true place at the top. When McNabb steps up in big games get back at me otherwise go to the tape because the film don't lie.
KRIS

uh mcnabb is in the nfc championship game and his star rumnnigback is averagin less than 40 yds a game rushing in the playoffs. so i think hes steppin up and carrying that offense. more than i can say for the real choke artist of the nfc

wow

wow your just an ignorant lil bitch who doesnt know about football. peppers had 12.5 sacks this year. suggs had 9 sacks and he deserves his ratings. cutler was voted to probowl and it is not the receiver, he just gotta mature a lil bit. flacco led the team to AFC championship you moron. k.Warner is playing wayy better than anyone else this season and he might even lead the team to the super bowl. i understand about tomlinson. but merriman is INJURED. McNabb led the team to NFL Championship. Eli played better than last year without Plaxico and he was voted to probowl. wow. just wow dude

Mr. EA Sports

I already explained Peppers, Suggs & Cutler in the earlier post^^. Flacco doesn't throw the ball so let me put this in layman's terms so you can understand. Darren Sproles had more big plays than the starting RB and a lot of teams in the NFL. He had a high yards per carry at 5.4 and yards per catch at 11.8 this season. So would you say that he is a great RB? You can not really say because much is not required from him teams do not really game plan for him as is the case for Flacco. He doesn't pass the ball in a ton of situations like 3rd and 10, 3rd and 15 and 3rd and 20. Unless it's 3rd and 5 where there is a chance for the run Flacco may pass the ball. Just because he is in the Conference Championship doesn't mean that he is a great QB. Even if he gets to the Super Bowl & wins doesn't make him a great QB. Just look at past Super Bowl winners T. Dilfer, B. Johnson, & Eli Manning are they great QB's ? Or did they play with great defenses? K. Warner is about as overrated as they come as a QB tat quits when he gets hit or doesn't have optimal weather conditions. Look at his record away from home or playing in the northeast and it's horrible. Look at his record when he plays against a fast defense and it's horrible. These are the facts the tape doesn't lie. When you mention Merriman you speak as if he just dominates games. He does one thing only rush the passer. Merrriman and D. Ware are the best at getting to the QB in fact I would say that Merriman is better. But ask him to stop the run and he's clueless. 6'5" 275lbs and can not stop the run. Many of San Diego's problems stem from those LB's not stopping the run in fact teams ran right at him when he played. Look up the past couple of years he played and the rushing efforts against him. Meriman is still trying to bring A. Peterson down. McNabb is an enigma when the kettle gets hot he folds like a lawn chair. Eli PLAYED WORSE when P. Burress was not playing do you know what Eli 's rating was after his safety vale shot himself? 88.5 vs WAS, 73.5 vs PHI, 43.9 vs DAL, 94.8 vs CAR, 76.4 vs MIN & 40.7 vs Philly. Yeah he sure di light it up when his margin of error was smaller. Oh and he lost 4 of those 6 games.

sportz

Great defenses huh? Cowboys defense must suck ass then because Romo is SOOOOO amazing and he can't even get them a playoff win. how about that…
sportz

and I'll give you Ware. Ware is an amazing player. I wish him and Harrison could have shared the Defensive Player of the Year award. Ware kept the cowboys in a lot of games they should have had no part in. but i still don't understand your bashing of Ed Reed. With the addition of Landry and Leonhard, Reed has dropped back into coverage more because he plays the pass better than either of those other two. And what about the tape you always seem to be watching? Reed is a big hit safety that punishes receivers that dare cross the middle of the field. and what about his huge hit in the backfield of the last Ravens home game that was nullified because of a stupid defensive penalty? Maybe Reed isn't as much of a run stopping force as Dawkins but then Dawkins doesn't defend the pass as well as Reed. Reed often plays with a game changing mentality, picking QBs apart. Look at the first playoff game. Pennington had great numbers with a below par offense all season and fell apart against the Ravens, specifically with Reed (though he had a bit of help.)

Mr. EA Sports

Comparing B. Dawkins to E. Reed is like comparing Plato to Aristotle. One was the teacher the other a student. If not for B. Dawkins their wouldn't be an E. Reed. Dawkins paved the way for cover safeties in the league. and yes B. Dawkins in his heyday was the BEST safety by far unquestioned too much film on that one buddy. Don't make me pullout the archives on you. E. Reed is a great cover safety but that is all he is when he makes plays elsewhere than you can put him up there with the Troy's and Dawk's.
Rod Woodson

Hey don't forget about me. i am the leader in int. by a safety in NFL history.
sportz

Agreed. Rod Woodson did more as a cover safety and came before Dawkins. So if anything, WOODSON paved the way.

Joker

dat #1 is rite Eli was lucky to win the SB because of one tall ass WR without him he nothing more than a rookie

as for Brady he was winning with average Wr's in Branch and Patten and Givens be fore gettin Moss

Micheal

Mr. EA Sports, your an idiot !!!!!!!!
Micheal

Mr. EA Sports, your an idiot !!!!!!!!
Micheal

Mr. EA Sports, your an idiot !!!!!!!!
nigger

2 words phillip rivers. he been 90 the whole ficking season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nigger

2 words phillip rivers. he been 90 the whole ficking season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nigger

2 words phillip rivers. he been 90 the whole ficking season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sportz

um?? Mr. EA Sports? I think you're the biggest idiot on this comment page. 5-8 in december and winless in january. and he's the best QB? Where's the consistency? He never fails to completely implode at the end of the year when it REALLY matters.

sportz

And by the way, it's almost always his fault, too. not lack of production by the rest of the team besides T.O. dropping balls. He implodes and ruins the team. It's hardly a collective failure.
sportz

And by the way, it's almost always his fault, too. not lack of production by the rest of the team besides T.O. dropping balls. He implodes and ruins the team. It's hardly a collective failure.

sportz

um?? Mr. EA Sports? I think you're the biggest idiot on this comment page. 5-8 in december and winless in january. and he's the best QB? Where's the consistency? He never fails to completely implode at the end of the year when it REALLY matters.
sportz

um?? Mr. EA Sports? I think you're the biggest idiot on this comment page. 5-8 in december and winless in january. and he's the best QB? Where's the consistency? He never fails to completely implode at the end of the year when it REALLY matters.

sportz

And by the way, it's almost always his fault, too. not lack of production by the rest of the team besides T.O. dropping balls. He implodes and ruins the team. It's hardly a collective failure.

Minnesota Adrians

How bout some love for Visanthe Shiancoe 596 yd, and third in touchdowns for te's with 7. He's rated 79 overall im feeling atleast an 82-85 range. I also feel madden should install something similar to run and pass block with defenders. Vikings are dominate stopping the run, so rate their players bomb at the run, but put their pass defence lower, or just leave that alone with man and zone coverage. i just feel like no running back dominated us this year over 100 so make it were we don't have to put eight in the box to stop simple stuff.
Minnesota Adrians

How bout some love for Visanthe Shiancoe 596 yd, and third in touchdowns for te's with 7. He's rated 79 overall im feeling atleast an 82-85 range. I also feel madden should install something similar to run and pass block with defenders. Vikings are dominate stopping the run, so rate their players bomb at the run, but put their pass defence lower, or just leave that alone with man and zone coverage. i just feel like no running back dominated us this year over 100 so make it were we don't have to put eight in the box to stop simple stuff.
Minnesota Adrians

How bout some love for Visanthe Shiancoe 596 yd, and third in touchdowns for te's with 7. He's rated 79 overall im feeling atleast an 82-85 range. I also feel madden should install something similar to run and pass block with defenders. Vikings are dominate stopping the run, so rate their players bomb at the run, but put their pass defence lower, or just leave that alone with man and zone coverage. i just feel like no running back dominated us this year over 100 so make it were we don't have to put eight in the box to stop simple stuff.
http://ign.com/ Eastsideboy101

Mr. EA sports, you should really watch the games of the players you say are overrated.
For instance, Terrell Suggs does not only play the pass, he is an excellent run, stopper. If he was not he would not be starting on the ravens defense (3rd against the run). Suggs also made the pro bowl this year, and you say he’s overrated at an 89. He also won defensive rookie of the year.
http://ign.com/ Eastsideboy101

Mr. EA sports, you should really watch the games of the players you say are overrated.
For instance, Terrell Suggs does not only play the pass, he is an excellent run, stopper. If he was not he would not be starting on the ravens defense (3rd against the run). Suggs also made the pro bowl this year, and you say he’s overrated at an 89. He also won defensive rookie of the year.
http://ign.com Eastsideboy101

Mr. EA sports, you should really watch the games of the players you say are overrated.
For instance, Terrell Suggs does not only play the pass, he is an excellent run, stopper. If he was not he would not be starting on the ravens defense (3rd against the run). Suggs also made the pro bowl this year, and you say he’s overrated at an 89. He also won defensive rookie of the year.
http://ign.com/ Eastsideboy101

Mr. EA Sports, maybe you should actually WATCH the games of the players you say are overrated. For instance, Terrell Suggs is not only great against the pass he is a also a great run stopper. Otherwise he wouldn’t be starting on the Ravens (3rd in run defense). He made the pro bowl this year and was the defensive rookie of the year a few years ago
http://ign.com/ Eastsideboy101

Mr. EA Sports, maybe you should actually WATCH the games of the players you say are overrated. For instance, Terrell Suggs is not only great against the pass he is a also a great run stopper. Otherwise he wouldn’t be starting on the Ravens (3rd in run defense). He made the pro bowl this year and was the defensive rookie of the year a few years ago
http://ign.com Eastsideboy101

Mr. EA Sports, maybe you should actually WATCH the games of the players you say are overrated. For instance, Terrell Suggs is not only great against the pass he is a also a great run stopper. Otherwise he wouldn’t be starting on the Ravens (3rd in run defense). He made the pro bowl this year and was the defensive rookie of the year a few years ago
Leo

Hes great on extra points too.
Leo

Hes great on extra points too.
Leo

Hes great on extra points too.
Leo

lol my bad i meant to say game winning field goals.
Leo

lol my bad i meant to say game winning field goals.
Leo

lol my bad i meant to say game winning field goals.
wowwwww

Jamarcus Russell had 13 td's 8 and a 54 percent completion percentage if this equals out to a 75 overall quarterback then i apologize for typing this and this was with no oline and no receivers almost all year

Gibril Wilson has 129 tackles 2 inerceptions and 2 sacks this equals out to a 88 for a strong safety

Darren Mcfadden had 500 rushing yards 4.4 average 4td's 29 receptions and 284 yards receiving and was injured the whole season how does he drop he also didnt play in 3 games forgive me if i'm wrong he was the second runningback on the team and is a rookie and those stats for a rookie who didnt start 1 gm arent bad

Rambo

JaMarcus shoul be at least 79.
Rambo

JaMarcus shoul be at least 79.

wowwwww

Jamarcus Russell had 13 td's 8 and a 54 percent completion percentage if this equals out to a 75 overall quarterback then i apologize for typing this and this was with no oline and no receivers almost all year

Gibril Wilson has 129 tackles 2 inerceptions and 2 sacks this equals out to a 88 for a strong safety

Darren Mcfadden had 500 rushing yards 4.4 average 4td's 29 receptions and 284 yards receiving and was injured the whole season how does he drop he also didnt play in 3 games forgive me if i'm wrong he was the second runningback on the team and is a rookie and those stats for a rookie who didnt start 1 gm arent bad
wowwwww

Jamarcus Russell had 13 td's 8 and a 54 percent completion percentage if this equals out to a 75 overall quarterback then i apologize for typing this and this was with no oline and no receivers almost all year

Gibril Wilson has 129 tackles 2 inerceptions and 2 sacks this equals out to a 88 for a strong safety

Darren Mcfadden had 500 rushing yards 4.4 average 4td's 29 receptions and 284 yards receiving and was injured the whole season how does he drop he also didnt play in 3 games forgive me if i'm wrong he was the second runningback on the team and is a rookie and those stats for a rookie who didnt start 1 gm arent bad

Rambo

JaMarcus shoul be at least 79.

Fix the ratings

In the end here is the main problem: underachieving teams are rated way too high, and overachieving teams are rated way too low.

EA you gotta give some love to the teams that are doing well. Theres no way the cowboys should be rated so darn high when they simply arent that great of a team, and inversely teams like the falcons who played great and got into the playoffs are rated below 80?

the teams rating is a reflection of the individuals on the teams, so underachieving teams have a lot of overrated players, and vice versa.. needs to be fixed

PS: current performance DEFINITELY matters more than past performance. If i want to worry about past teams, i'll play last years madden, let me enjoy THIS YEARS madden with THIS YEARS TEAMS RATINGS

Mr. EA Sports

You make a good point
Mr. EA Sports

You make a good point
Joker

well just the be on the safe side the Pats r not overachieving in madden

All they got is a 90 overall QB, 2 WR's, and Off Line

And on Def is about 3 Def Line and a CB you cant say overratted

Look it up People Patriots this year on OFFENSE they r RANK in the TOP 12th in the league

And on DEFENSE they r RANK in the TOP 15th in the league

so u cant CUT on them and they finish 11-5 and not make the playoffs

WE HAVE BETTER RECORDS THAN MOST TEAMS THAT MADE THE PLAYOFFS (both AFC & NFC)

Joker

and they had No BRADY, HARRISON. MARONEY. ADLAIUS THOMAS and other injuries and still we finish 11-5

if anyone would like to Bash the patriots for being wack or overrated or overachieving you must smoking your way to DEATH
Joker

and they had No BRADY, HARRISON. MARONEY. ADLAIUS THOMAS and other injuries and still we finish 11-5

if anyone would like to Bash the patriots for being wack or overrated or overachieving you must smoking your way to DEATH

Joker

well just the be on the safe side the Pats r not overachieving in madden

All they got is a 90 overall QB, 2 WR's, and Off Line

And on Def is about 3 Def Line and a CB you cant say overratted

Look it up People Patriots this year on OFFENSE they r RANK in the TOP 12th in the league

And on DEFENSE they r RANK in the TOP 15th in the league

so u cant CUT on them and they finish 11-5 and not make the playoffs

WE HAVE BETTER RECORDS THAN MOST TEAMS THAT MADE THE PLAYOFFS (both AFC & NFC)

Fix the ratings

In the end here is the main problem: underachieving teams are rated way too high, and overachieving teams are rated way too low.

EA you gotta give some love to the teams that are doing well. Theres no way the cowboys should be rated so darn high when they simply arent that great of a team, and inversely teams like the falcons who played great and got into the playoffs are rated below 80?

the teams rating is a reflection of the individuals on the teams, so underachieving teams have a lot of overrated players, and vice versa.. needs to be fixed

PS: current performance DEFINITELY matters more than past performance. If i want to worry about past teams, i'll play last years madden, let me enjoy THIS YEARS madden with THIS YEARS TEAMS RATINGS
Fix the ratings

In the end here is the main problem: underachieving teams are rated way too high, and overachieving teams are rated way too low.

EA you gotta give some love to the teams that are doing well. Theres no way the cowboys should be rated so darn high when they simply arent that great of a team, and inversely teams like the falcons who played great and got into the playoffs are rated below 80?

the teams rating is a reflection of the individuals on the teams, so underachieving teams have a lot of overrated players, and vice versa.. needs to be fixed

PS: current performance DEFINITELY matters more than past performance. If i want to worry about past teams, i'll play last years madden, let me enjoy THIS YEARS madden with THIS YEARS TEAMS RATINGS

Mr. EA Sports

You make a good point
Joker

well just the be on the safe side the Pats r not overachieving in madden

All they got is a 90 overall QB, 2 WR's, and Off Line

And on Def is about 3 Def Line and a CB you cant say overratted

Look it up People Patriots this year on OFFENSE they r RANK in the TOP 12th in the league

And on DEFENSE they r RANK in the TOP 15th in the league

so u cant CUT on them and they finish 11-5 and not make the playoffs

WE HAVE BETTER RECORDS THAN MOST TEAMS THAT MADE THE PLAYOFFS (both AFC & NFC)

Joker

and they had No BRADY, HARRISON. MARONEY. ADLAIUS THOMAS and other injuries and still we finish 11-5

if anyone would like to Bash the patriots for being wack or overrated or overachieving you must smoking your way to DEATH

Joker

Patriots r the team of the Decade dont no one forget dat
Joker

Patriots r the team of the Decade dont no one forget dat
Joker

Patriots r the team of the Decade dont no one forget dat
Joker

Patriot r this Decade team

broke records win 3 SB's 16-0 regular season and all thats wins thru out the 10 years from 1999-2009

go look it up no one has a better 10 year stats than the new england Patriots

the stats i said there the tip of the iceberg
Joker

Patriot r this Decade team

broke records win 3 SB's 16-0 regular season and all thats wins thru out the 10 years from 1999-2009

go look it up no one has a better 10 year stats than the new england Patriots

the stats i said there the tip of the iceberg
Joker

Patriot r this Decade team

broke records win 3 SB's 16-0 regular season and all thats wins thru out the 10 years from 1999-2009

go look it up no one has a better 10 year stats than the new england Patriots

the stats i said there the tip of the iceberg
BigblackAnvil

If you want madden to be about real footbal( strategy) you need to consider bringing everybodies ratings down. None of these players deserve a 99 rating in any category. It's Super human wich equal arcade football. Thats what Madden is right now. No player can play a game of football and do the things I've seen in this game in real life. When was the last time you saw a DE get 6 sacks a game? Or A QB run back 30 yds and then pass it 70 down field with pin point accuracy EVERYTIME? Doesn't happen too often but way too much on Madden.
BigblackAnvil

If you want madden to be about real footbal( strategy) you need to consider bringing everybodies ratings down. None of these players deserve a 99 rating in any category. It's Super human wich equal arcade football. Thats what Madden is right now. No player can play a game of football and do the things I've seen in this game in real life. When was the last time you saw a DE get 6 sacks a game? Or A QB run back 30 yds and then pass it 70 down field with pin point accuracy EVERYTIME? Doesn't happen too often but way too much on Madden.
BigblackAnvil

If you want madden to be about real footbal( strategy) you need to consider bringing everybodies ratings down. None of these players deserve a 99 rating in any category. It's Super human wich equal arcade football. Thats what Madden is right now. No player can play a game of football and do the things I've seen in this game in real life. When was the last time you saw a DE get 6 sacks a game? Or A QB run back 30 yds and then pass it 70 down field with pin point accuracy EVERYTIME? Doesn't happen too often but way too much on Madden.
HUEJAK

For give me if I didn't know every loss is a smash. The Bucs were 500 hundred in the division and no one in the division beat the Bus more points. If fact the team had lost three games until long time D Coordinator Monte Ciffen anounced his departure to UT. I was just looking at the reasons given for other player rating increases and wondering why the fore mentioned Bucs were not treated the same. If every time D Ware & Abe got sacks a hole lot of OT's should be lossing numbers genious.
HUEJAK

For give me if I didn't know every loss is a smash. The Bucs were 500 hundred in the division and no one in the division beat the Bus more points. If fact the team had lost three games until long time D Coordinator Monte Ciffen anounced his departure to UT. I was just looking at the reasons given for other player rating increases and wondering why the fore mentioned Bucs were not treated the same. If every time D Ware & Abe got sacks a hole lot of OT's should be lossing numbers genious.
HUEJAK

For give me if I didn't know every loss is a smash. The Bucs were 500 hundred in the division and no one in the division beat the Bus more points. If fact the team had lost three games until long time D Coordinator Monte Ciffen anounced his departure to UT. I was just looking at the reasons given for other player rating increases and wondering why the fore mentioned Bucs were not treated the same. If every time D Ware & Abe got sacks a hole lot of OT's should be lossing numbers genious.
AmenRa

I tol you fools Joe Flacco was garbage and the Producer echoed everything I said. Half you people dont even watch sports, just check otu ESPN highlights and news updates, and then come here spouting off at the mouth like you know something.
AmenRa

I tol you fools Joe Flacco was garbage and the Producer echoed everything I said. Half you people dont even watch sports, just check otu ESPN highlights and news updates, and then come here spouting off at the mouth like you know something.
AmenRa

I tol you fools Joe Flacco was garbage and the Producer echoed everything I said. Half you people dont even watch sports, just check otu ESPN highlights and news updates, and then come here spouting off at the mouth like you know something.
HUEJAK

I think the rating system is fine the way it is. It just needs to be more consistent on a team by team basis. The Bucs for example Donald Penn has only given up two sack all year while facing the likes of Abraham & Peppers twice a year and Penn is the only LT stop D Ware of Dallas consecutive game sack streak. Antonio Bryant WR has had one the best second half of the season in NFL history. Clifton Smith made the Pro Bowl dispite only being active for half a seaon, no up grade.

bigblackanvil

I say bring ratings down because it would eliminate the people who abuse the players with the superhuman ratings. If i used The Boys or Pats I'd probably go deep every play as well because Moss and T.O. rarely drop a pass on Madden. And as far as Romo, this guy throws perfect passes with his back turned away. Too unreal. And I'm still trying too understand why the Redskins who have the number 4 defense had players dropped on defense ? Deangelo Hall should have been increased MORE because of his play since the joining Redskins . He played 6 weeks and has started 3 and gave up 0 scores. But T. Choice has 2 good games and BOOM ! Be fair EA !!!

Mr. EA Sports

Moss, TO, & Romo are superhuman when they play. When those 3 are healthy they are unstoppable on the field. The tape doesn't lie. I saw a play week 2 against Philly where TO ran a double move against A. Samuel and S. Considene and got deep on them for about 40 yards. That play took quite a while to develop so the offensive line held up well and Romo accurately read the defense and the line stepped up in the pocket and found a soft spot in the zone for a deep pass to TO simply brilliant. When you watch Sports Center you do not see this but when you actually analyze film you can understand the entire play as it unfolds and why certain players succeed.

bigblackanvil

Didn't play Moss this year but T.O. and Romo looked rather average against the Reddskins when I saw them.And they damn sure looked sub par against the Eagles. So man please. No one relies on Sportscenter for their opinions. We know football. Obviously better than you Mr." I saw A play when T.O. got open once" !

Mr. EA Sports

That was just 1 example on the great play that superstars do. There are only about 15 superstars that bring it each game they are in no particular order; R. Moss, J. Porter, B. Dawkins, T. Polamalu, T. Romo, P. Manning, A. Peterson, D. Ware, A. Johnson, T. Owens, T. Gonzalez, R. Lewis, L. Briggs, J. Witten & L. Fletcher. Trust me fellas these guys are flat out superstars that bring it every game. Too much tape on these guys to disagree.
Mr. EA Sports

That was just 1 example on the great play that superstars do. There are only about 15 superstars that bring it each game they are in no particular order; R. Moss, J. Porter, B. Dawkins, T. Polamalu, T. Romo, P. Manning, A. Peterson, D. Ware, A. Johnson, T. Owens, T. Gonzalez, R. Lewis, L. Briggs, J. Witten & L. Fletcher. Trust me fellas these guys are flat out superstars that bring it every game. Too much tape on these guys to disagree.
sportz

too much tape on T.O. dropping important passes. And what happens when you *bump* T.O. at the line every play? 98% ineffective. talk about a one trick pony as you would say. He has blazing speed and…oh yeah, nothing else. Maybe an argument about his ability to gain yards after the catch but that's assuming he actually catches the ball or even gets open. and how the hell can you still be sucking off Romo? No great quarterback falls apart like that. period. he loses games late in the season with turnovers. I'd like for you to explain the thumping Philadelphia put on Dallas on the last game. Dallas held their own fate and Romo screwed them again. I don't think ANYONE looks for a QB like Romo. I think they look for a QB that WINS in december and january; something Romo simply cannot do.
Mr. EA Sports

Yeah T.O. has had his shared of drops but remember that he had surgery in the off season on his hand and he and Romo didn't share that much playing time together this year. It was hard to build up their championship chemistry. With a full healthy season expect to see a lot of offensive records broken next year. When I watch the film I see a dominate duo that could go down as the greatest. We are all witness, just enjoy it and go for the ride. The Romo's and T.O.'s only come once in a lifetime once they are gone they can not be replaced.
sportz

seriously, you're undoubted and naive love for Romo and T.O. and the rest of the Cowboys makes me want to puke. Yeah, T.O. had surgery this past offseason but that doesn't explain the other years of him dropping pass after pass. You also never said anything in response to T.O. being shitty as hell when he's bumped at the line. Hand surgery doesn't explain his lack of ability to get open if he's bumped. I hope and wish you're around forums next year because there will never be any broken records by T.O. and Romo. Bunch of crybabys. Let it go. If you're cowboys are as good as you say they are, they should be 17-0 and headed to the NFC championship. In reality? 9-7 and didn't even make the playoffs. Yeah, the Cowboys have some top notch talent on their team but not as much you say there is and they also lack depth at just about every position, thus the resulting record when a few players got hurt, which i might add, IS PART OF THE GAME. that's why you have an all-around good team instead of a few big named star players.

bigblackanvil

Didn't play Moss this year but T.O. and Romo looked rather average against the Reddskins when I saw them.And they damn sure looked sub par against the Eagles. So man please. No one relies on Sportscenter for their opinions. We know football. Obviously better than you Mr." I saw A play when T.O. got open once" !
KRIS

I WAS WAITING 4 U TO FUCK UP. this is how i kno u dont really watch film and just r a complete jackass. that wasnt asante samuel it was lito u ass.and that rout only took like 3 seconds cause dumb ass considine jumped it. it was just a mistake by two backups! ur just hyping the playoffless cowboys cause ur bitter…..brilliant

Mr. EA Sports

1st of all you can never question my breakdown on film 2nd that was A. Samuel. I wasn't talking about the TD catch where he went by Lito I'm was talking about another catch on the right hand side of the field. Oh you of short memory you need to study the film a bit more buddy. He did a double move along the right sideline that took quite a bit of time and Romo with his excellent pass protection read the defense perfectly and zip a great timing pass directly to T.O. Kris. I believe you owe me an apology. The offer is always there though in case you need help breaking down film Kris.
KRIS

hey asshole……..t.o. had 3 catches for 89 yds and his longest was that 72 yarder that i was talkin about. do the math. what 40 yarder r u talkin about???????????? ur not breakin down film u aint jaws. stop lyin and tryna sound smart. i think u owe evryone on this site an apology cause u have just about pissed off everyone

Mr. EA Sports

Moss, TO, & Romo are superhuman when they play. When those 3 are healthy they are unstoppable on the field. The tape doesn't lie. I saw a play week 2 against Philly where TO ran a double move against A. Samuel and S. Considene and got deep on them for about 40 yards. That play took quite a while to develop so the offensive line held up well and Romo accurately read the defense and the line stepped up in the pocket and found a soft spot in the zone for a deep pass to TO simply brilliant. When you watch Sports Center you do not see this but when you actually analyze film you can understand the entire play as it unfolds and why certain players succeed.

bigblackanvil

I say bring ratings down because it would eliminate the people who abuse the players with the superhuman ratings. If i used The Boys or Pats I'd probably go deep every play as well because Moss and T.O. rarely drop a pass on Madden. And as far as Romo, this guy throws perfect passes with his back turned away. Too unreal. And I'm still trying too understand why the Redskins who have the number 4 defense had players dropped on defense ? Deangelo Hall should have been increased MORE because of his play since the joining Redskins . He played 6 weeks and has started 3 and gave up 0 scores. But T. Choice has 2 good games and BOOM ! Be fair EA !!!

HUEJAK

I think the rating system is fine the way it is. It just needs to be more consistent on a team by team basis. The Bucs for example Donald Penn has only given up two sack all year while facing the likes of Abraham & Peppers twice a year and Penn is the only LT stop D Ware of Dallas consecutive game sack streak. Antonio Bryant WR has had one the best second half of the season in NFL history. Clifton Smith made the Pro Bowl dispite only being active for half a seaon, no up grade.