Madden 10: WR/DB Improvements

by pastapadre
Posted March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 am

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Keeping with the weekly trend of Madden 2010 info being posted on the Inside EA Blog, today lead designer Ian Cummings has detailed some of the improvements made to the Wide Receiver and Defensive Backs positions. This includes the return of the much needed defensive assignments, route running and man coverage, and various WR/DB interactions. You can check out the full blog posting which includes some demonstration videos here.

Second, we took a page from the FIFA team and added in the concept of ‘jostling’. Personally I am extremely stoked to have this in the game because I’ve written a design for it for 5+ years in a row…unfortunately we just never had the technology to accomplish it. The ‘jostling’ concept is a set of looping 2-man animations that can play for the WR and DB as they run downfield. The main reason that I am so big on these animations is that it really helps alleviate a balance problem that has existed in Madden for years. I’m talking about the fact that traditionally you can send a player with a 99 speed rating (regardless of his other ratings like route running, catching, etc) on a streak and easily get behind a defender in man coverage. In real life, regardless of the difference in speed, a good defensive back can use his body to keep the receiver in check… a fly route is rarely an untouched foot-race sprint to the endzone.

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mike

one improvement i wish they would make would be for all the defensive players to have a seperate catching rating. that way there wouldnt be so many dropped interceptions. so a defensive player could have say a 99 catch rating on defense but if someone wanted to sub them in on offense as a reciever he could have his old catching of like a 60-70 like in previous maddens. this would solve the problems of the very frustrating droped easy ints.

Guru

Smart idea really, if you think about it

James

with this new addition they better eliminate the animation that sends the db 10ft in the air to swat down a pass…
mike

one improvement i wish they would make would be for all the defensive players to have a seperate catching rating. that way there wouldnt be so many dropped interceptions. so a defensive player could have say a 99 catch rating on defense but if someone wanted to sub them in on offense as a reciever he could have his old catching of like a 60-70 like in previous maddens. this would solve the problems of the very frustrating droped easy ints.

Guru

Smart idea really, if you think about it

James

with this new addition they better eliminate the animation that sends the db 10ft in the air to swat down a pass…
rondoman

Madden is so broken it's sad.

I mean, we have to think back to 3-6 years ago to remember how great Madden was.

I used to play nonstop against my buddies and we were so into football it was intense. Every game was a chess match just like in real life. Now, Madden is more about luck and cheesing that actual skill.

I used to rule at Madden when it was about actual skill and football IQ. Man, I miss those days. . .

Josh

Yea I'm starting to think that this whole "Next Gen" thing is a waist. I mean yea the graphics are better & online gaming is cool but sports games as a whole (especially Madden) just don't seem to be as fun as they used to. I consider myself to be a hardcore gamer & I don't usderstand why it's so hard for EA to put everything we had from Last Gen into this Gen & go from there as a foundation. It's like each year they're trying to come up with new stuff but they always take one step forward & two steps back. You would think that with all this technology we have that this wouldn't be the case. Don't get me wrong there are some great sports games out there (NBA 2K, Fight Night, NHL) but football is America's #1 sport so it's only right that it should be the best sports video game & it's not. Is Madden terrible? No not at all but it's far from great like it used to be.

James

I completely agree… football is my absolute favorite sport yet the only games in my ps3 are NBA 2k9 and MLB 09 The Show (didn't even buy Madden this year). The trend thats happening in alot of sports games is presentation and "signature" style animations like 2k9 jumpshots. I'm just praying that EA gets with this trend because it's what makes the game feel authentic and has replay value. They said no more gimmicks so I'm hoping its no more gimmicks… I would be happy with their main feature being progressive lighting and signature throwing and running styles.

rondoman

Madden is so broken it's sad.

I mean, we have to think back to 3-6 years ago to remember how great Madden was.

I used to play nonstop against my buddies and we were so into football it was intense. Every game was a chess match just like in real life. Now, Madden is more about luck and cheesing that actual skill.

I used to rule at Madden when it was about actual skill and football IQ. Man, I miss those days. . .

Josh

Yea I'm starting to think that this whole "Next Gen" thing is a waist. I mean yea the graphics are better & online gaming is cool but sports games as a whole (especially Madden) just don't seem to be as fun as they used to. I consider myself to be a hardcore gamer & I don't usderstand why it's so hard for EA to put everything we had from Last Gen into this Gen & go from there as a foundation. It's like each year they're trying to come up with new stuff but they always take one step forward & two steps back. You would think that with all this technology we have that this wouldn't be the case. Don't get me wrong there are some great sports games out there (NBA 2K, Fight Night, NHL) but football is America's #1 sport so it's only right that it should be the best sports video game & it's not. Is Madden terrible? No not at all but it's far from great like it used to be.

James

I completely agree… football is my absolute favorite sport yet the only games in my ps3 are NBA 2k9 and MLB 09 The Show (didn't even buy Madden this year). The trend thats happening in alot of sports games is presentation and "signature" style animations like 2k9 jumpshots. I'm just praying that EA gets with this trend because it's what makes the game feel authentic and has replay value. They said no more gimmicks so I'm hoping its no more gimmicks… I would be happy with their main feature being progressive lighting and signature throwing and running styles.

floridagatorfan

Sounds positive. A lot of these features are things that All pro football 2k8 did very well so hopefully they make it at least up to that level. I would love to see some wrs knocked to the ground by elite physical bump corners like in All pro football when you have a player who is a bump master.
floridagatorfan

Sounds positive. A lot of these features are things that All pro football 2k8 did very well so hopefully they make it at least up to that level. I would love to see some wrs knocked to the ground by elite physical bump corners like in All pro football when you have a player who is a bump master.
t. daley

No disrespect MR EA but you don't want to go down that road of "skill" based controls. That is what brought down 2ksports game.

You shouldn't have to fight the control scheme in order to be sucessful. First off you are playing a skilled quarter back in the game so the "easiness" of the passing should be based on how good a quarterback is in the game and not how good YOU are. That being said there should be some things that DO rely on your skill and that would be TIMING. Like in baseball games or free throw shooting in basketball games there is usually a meter used to determing proper speed and accuracy of the ball being thrown.

Now I would incorporate a similar feature in Madden. I would have a mini meter of some sort to determine how hard the player throws the ball that way there would be more skill involved in the QB position.
KRIS

they r getting in actual effective features!!! thank god. cmon ea stay with the gameplay its lookin good
t. daley

No disrespect MR EA but you don't want to go down that road of "skill" based controls. That is what brought down 2ksports game.

You shouldn't have to fight the control scheme in order to be sucessful. First off you are playing a skilled quarter back in the game so the "easiness" of the passing should be based on how good a quarterback is in the game and not how good YOU are. That being said there should be some things that DO rely on your skill and that would be TIMING. Like in baseball games or free throw shooting in basketball games there is usually a meter used to determing proper speed and accuracy of the ball being thrown.

Now I would incorporate a similar feature in Madden. I would have a mini meter of some sort to determine how hard the player throws the ball that way there would be more skill involved in the QB position.
KRIS

they r getting in actual effective features!!! thank god. cmon ea stay with the gameplay its lookin good
DC123

Is there any talk of coach mode for Madden 2010?
DC123

Is there any talk of coach mode for Madden 2010?
t. daley

When it comes to Madden, no one will every be happy with this game. Expectations have grown to the level of unrealistic and anything EA attempts to do with this game will be met with disdain.
My thinking is that EA incorporates alot of things into the game that arent readily seen or recognized by the gamers. If it weren't for threads like this one and EA bragging about this feature US THE GAMER, would never have known it was in there.
Madden is at the stage now where the game is just tweaked every year. There isn't going to be those wholesale changes to the game like back in the Genesis days when the franchise was new. The ideas are more complicated now and take greater time to implement into the game.
People are unrealistic with what they want in the game also. You cant program real human itellect into a video game character. They do what they can and we all should appreciate that. Also with a yearly release scheddule it is impossible to get everything people want into the game.
All in all this title has grown too big for itself and Tiburon. Unless they had some Mammoth team working on this game they will never have the resources to truly overhaul this game.

David

No, people just want a good game thjat isnt full of holes, exploits, and broken gameplay.

T. Daley

Good game is very subjective. I think madden is a very good game. I think peoples views on madden is directly proportional to the number of games you have played. If you are the type of player that plays 10 games of madden a day or more then you will never be happy with the game b/c you will always be noticing small details missing from the game.

If you play the game more casually like myself then you wont have all those complaints. The hardcore madden player expects too much from the game and that is really YOUR PROBLEM.

Your not going to stop buying MADDEN over it otherwise you would have done so a long time ago. So your only recourse is to complain on the fourms. I get it, but it doesn't change that fact that your expectations and what can reasonably be accomplished in this game are miles apart.

Pehaps you should dwell more on the positives that are being adressed than the negatives. Just because they didnt fix something YOU perceived as a problem doesn't mean the game hasn't improved overall.

Guru

While I agree with you in a way Daley…is it really our(the consumer's) fault? Madden ITSELF has touted its own horn as the best football game on the market, it has BOUGHT the NFL license, leaving us football starved consumers to settle for ONE NFL football game a year. Methinks that because of all this, we SHOULD expect more from this team, especially since the product has been on a steady decline the past 3 or so years. So while we may expect a little too much, remember that we do not have ANY other option but to buy madden, and as consumers WE always reserve the right to expect EXCELLENCE from our producers.

Mr. Professional

Hey David, that's an amazing idea! Why don't you go pitch it to EA. "A game without holes and exploits"…yeah…why hasn't anybody thought of that? They should've removed the "broken gameplay" feature a while ago too, right? -_-

If they ever delivered the game David is talking about, or what I like to call "Madden 2078," they could never make another one without it being compared to the previous. If you ever got that "perfect Madden", you would just complain that the following year's one is just a roster update. Anyway aren't the holes and exploits what makes the game memorable XD

http://intensedebate.com/people/EPICgabe Gabe G.

you can bet money that i will still be playing madden in 2078

t. daley

When it comes to Madden, no one will every be happy with this game. Expectations have grown to the level of unrealistic and anything EA attempts to do with this game will be met with disdain.
My thinking is that EA incorporates alot of things into the game that arent readily seen or recognized by the gamers. If it weren't for threads like this one and EA bragging about this feature US THE GAMER, would never have known it was in there.
Madden is at the stage now where the game is just tweaked every year. There isn't going to be those wholesale changes to the game like back in the Genesis days when the franchise was new. The ideas are more complicated now and take greater time to implement into the game.
People are unrealistic with what they want in the game also. You cant program real human itellect into a video game character. They do what they can and we all should appreciate that. Also with a yearly release scheddule it is impossible to get everything people want into the game.
All in all this title has grown too big for itself and Tiburon. Unless they had some Mammoth team working on this game they will never have the resources to truly overhaul this game.

David

No, people just want a good game thjat isnt full of holes, exploits, and broken gameplay.

T. Daley

Good game is very subjective. I think madden is a very good game. I think peoples views on madden is directly proportional to the number of games you have played. If you are the type of player that plays 10 games of madden a day or more then you will never be happy with the game b/c you will always be noticing small details missing from the game.

If you play the game more casually like myself then you wont have all those complaints. The hardcore madden player expects too much from the game and that is really YOUR PROBLEM.

Your not going to stop buying MADDEN over it otherwise you would have done so a long time ago. So your only recourse is to complain on the fourms. I get it, but it doesn't change that fact that your expectations and what can reasonably be accomplished in this game are miles apart.

Pehaps you should dwell more on the positives that are being adressed than the negatives. Just because they didnt fix something YOU perceived as a problem doesn't mean the game hasn't improved overall.

Guru

While I agree with you in a way Daley…is it really our(the consumer's) fault? Madden ITSELF has touted its own horn as the best football game on the market, it has BOUGHT the NFL license, leaving us football starved consumers to settle for ONE NFL football game a year. Methinks that because of all this, we SHOULD expect more from this team, especially since the product has been on a steady decline the past 3 or so years. So while we may expect a little too much, remember that we do not have ANY other option but to buy madden, and as consumers WE always reserve the right to expect EXCELLENCE from our producers.

Mr. Professional

Hey David, that's an amazing idea! Why don't you go pitch it to EA. "A game without holes and exploits"…yeah…why hasn't anybody thought of that? They should've removed the "broken gameplay" feature a while ago too, right? -_-

If they ever delivered the game David is talking about, or what I like to call "Madden 2078," they could never make another one without it being compared to the previous. If you ever got that "perfect Madden", you would just complain that the following year's one is just a roster update. Anyway aren't the holes and exploits what makes the game memorable XD

http://intensedebate.com/people/EPICgabe Gabe G.

you can bet money that i will still be playing madden in 2078

yggdrasil

I love how on point the ratings look so far. No more of this cushion boosted up ratings so we dont hurt any of these overpaid monkeys feelings. Just make the NFL.
yggdrasil

I love how on point the ratings look so far. No more of this cushion boosted up ratings so we dont hurt any of these overpaid monkeys feelings. Just make the NFL.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Mr_EA_Sports Mr_EA_Sports

Madden 2078 LMAO! Man that's a classic line
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Madden 2078 LMAO! Man that's a classic line
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T. Daley mentioned another huge flaw with Madden. The blocking, how many times have you rushed to the outside with 2 blockers ahead of you only to have them turn around and block a guy you already passed? The blocking is so bad and unpredictable that you are actually surprised when they engage a defender in front of you. If they tighten up the blocking A.I. and give them a major overhual it would raised the game greatly. Tell the truth O-Line attributes are about as meaningless as a punter's arm strenght.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Mr_EA_Sports Mr_EA_Sports

T. Daley mentioned another huge flaw with Madden. The blocking, how many times have you rushed to the outside with 2 blockers ahead of you only to have them turn around and block a guy you already passed? The blocking is so bad and unpredictable that you are actually surprised when they engage a defender in front of you. If they tighten up the blocking A.I. and give them a major overhual it would raised the game greatly. Tell the truth the O-Line attributes are about as meaningless as a punter's arm strenght.

footballgamer

that was and still is my biggest complaint with Madden……i hope they have a blog about the running game in the coming weeks/months.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Mr_EA_Sports Mr_EA_Sports

T. Daley mentioned another huge flaw with Madden. The blocking, how many times have you rushed to the outside with 2 blockers ahead of you only to have them turn around and block a guy you already passed? The blocking is so bad and unpredictable that you are actually surprised when they engage a defender in front of you. If they tighten up the blocking A.I. and give them a major overhual it would raised the game greatly. Tell the truth O-Line attributes are about as meaningless as a punter's arm strenght.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Mr_EA_Sports Mr_EA_Sports

T. Daley mentioned another huge flaw with Madden. The blocking, how many times have you rushed to the outside with 2 blockers ahead of you only to have them turn around and block a guy you already passed? The blocking is so bad and unpredictable that you are actually surprised when they engage a defender in front of you. If they tighten up the blocking A.I. and give them a major overhual it would raised the game greatly. Tell the truth the O-Line attributes are about as meaningless as a punter's arm strenght.

footballgamer

that was and still is my biggest complaint with Madden……i hope they have a blog about the running game in the coming weeks/months.

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Josh

Refs & Chaingangs are part of an NFL GAME like them or not. Yes they can get in the way but that adds to the realism because it's part of the game. Progressive lighting was in Last Gen also in Madden 07 & NCAA 07 but not in 08 or 09. You're missing the point, there's no excuse why these things are not in the game. It's 2009 & we should expect more than what we're getting. Are the expectations high? Yes & they should be. There's no excuse for Madden not to have everything that we had in Last Gen & more!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Mr_EA_Sports Mr_EA_Sports

Would you like water boys, commercials, cheerleaders, and pee wee football they play sometimes at halftime? Please The most important factor is game play making the game play tight. Shore up the blocking eliminate the constant scrambling. stop the Go-Route where Moss/Hester can beat everybody by 20 yards. eliminate the defensive linemen being engaged by the O-line and then suddenly tackle you without the O-Line doing anything to stop him any further. Penalize a team for constant no huddles with the same play just altering the run or pass. upgrade the kicking game. Stop the ability to use any quarterback like Joe Montana, the only difference between QB's is the speed that's ridiculous. Sorry for the rant just a couple things they could improve on what your take?

ACREYMAN

Well maybe its just me. But the crowds add a completely different atmosphere to games for ME, maybe not you. I have been playing College hoops 2K8 for a while now and I noticed some great presentation elements in the game that make up for the glitches/mistakes in the game.

When I go to the line at home the crowd is quiet and the shots are easy. I added the "cut scene" option on which gives you an different camera angle during your shots, about 6 different angles, and I start to miss a few more than normal just because of the angle. Its more of a TV style presentation. THEN I go to a big visiting school and the crowd is loud when I go to the line and my free throw shooting % goes down and I actually get a little nervous. I had a critical free throw for the win recently and the damn screen was shaking and my Surround Sound was f-in loud as shit and because of that I got kinda nervous and my timing was off…..stupid but it was very effective. I played ball in HS so I know the feeling, Jesuit used to bang these annoying ass wooden blocks together. I didnt get as nervous as real life but still the atmosphere is so fun that it is hard to put the game down.

T. Daley

There are lots of "things" that are IN the game josh, but with a limited amount of production time, limited resources, and a finite production schedule somethings just aren't feasible to put in the game despite the realism as you put it. Its easy for you and I to nit pick madden every year for what it doesn't contain but in no way do either us or anybody else here knows what goes into making this game every year. To criicize these omissions is really a bit selfish on our part. I am confident that EA is well aware that chaingangs and refs are missing and I am equally as confident that there is a reason for it.

IMHO chain gangs is one time "cool factor" addition. After the first time you see the graphic you wont' care anymore or you will just hit "X" to bypass it all together so why should EA waste the programming time to add it. Refs are a similar deal and no doubt that players will complain once the refs start getting in the way of a pass or run/tackle.

Josh

Refs & Chaingangs are part of an NFL GAME like them or not. Yes they can get in the way but that adds to the realism because it's part of the game. Progressive lighting was in Last Gen also in Madden 07 & NCAA 07 but not in 08 or 09. You're missing the point, there's no excuse why these things are not in the game. It's 2009 & we should expect more than what we're getting. Are the expectations high? Yes & they should be. There's no excuse for Madden not to have everything that we had in Last Gen & more!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Mr_EA_Sports Mr_EA_Sports

Would you like water boys, commercials, cheerleaders, and pee wee football they play sometimes at halftime? Please The most important factor is game play making the game play tight. Shore up the blocking eliminate the constant scrambling. stop the Go-Route where Moss/Hester can beat everybody by 20 yards. eliminate the defensive linemen being engaged by the O-line and then suddenly tackle you without the O-Line doing anything to stop him any further. Penalize a team for constant no huddles with the same play just altering the run or pass. upgrade the kicking game. Stop the ability to use any quarterback like Joe Montana, the only difference between QB's is the speed that's ridiculous. Sorry for the rant just a couple things they could improve on what your take?

ACREYMAN

Well maybe its just me. But the crowds add a completely different atmosphere to games for ME, maybe not you. I have been playing College hoops 2K8 for a while now and I noticed some great presentation elements in the game that make up for the glitches/mistakes in the game.

When I go to the line at home the crowd is quiet and the shots are easy. I added the "cut scene" option on which gives you an different camera angle during your shots, about 6 different angles, and I start to miss a few more than normal just because of the angle. Its more of a TV style presentation. THEN I go to a big visiting school and the crowd is loud when I go to the line and my free throw shooting % goes down and I actually get a little nervous. I had a critical free throw for the win recently and the damn screen was shaking and my Surround Sound was f-in loud as shit and because of that I got kinda nervous and my timing was off…..stupid but it was very effective. I played ball in HS so I know the feeling, Jesuit used to bang these annoying ass wooden blocks together. I didnt get as nervous as real life but still the atmosphere is so fun that it is hard to put the game down.

T. Daley

There are lots of "things" that are IN the game josh, but with a limited amount of production time, limited resources, and a finite production schedule somethings just aren't feasible to put in the game despite the realism as you put it. Its easy for you and I to nit pick madden every year for what it doesn't contain but in no way do either us or anybody else here knows what goes into making this game every year. To criicize these omissions is really a bit selfish on our part. I am confident that EA is well aware that chaingangs and refs are missing and I am equally as confident that there is a reason for it.

IMHO chain gangs is one time "cool factor" addition. After the first time you see the graphic you wont' care anymore or you will just hit "X" to bypass it all together so why should EA waste the programming time to add it. Refs are a similar deal and no doubt that players will complain once the refs start getting in the way of a pass or run/tackle.

ACREYMAN

Uhh, it all sounds great but lets see it in action. But it looks like the new producer, well its his second year, but the new dude got a fire under the asses of these guys becuase they are making some huge advancements in the game.
ACREYMAN

Uhh, it all sounds great but lets see it in action. But it looks like the new producer, well its his second year, but the new dude got a fire under the asses of these guys becuase they are making some huge advancements in the game.
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footballgamer

once again, this area of the game sounds good and most of all, promising……would love to actually see more videos of this and how it would affect the amount of catches, dropped catches as well as interceptions. One of my biggest wishes for Madden (and i will continue to post this until they've address this issue) is if the incorporation of Team DNA that was featured on this years Live series. I'm still waiting to play against teams that behave similar to their actual counterparts.
footballgamer

once again, this area of the game sounds good and most of all, promising……would love to actually see more videos of this and how it would affect the amount of catches, dropped catches as well as interceptions. One of my biggest wishes for Madden (and i will continue to post this until they've address this issue) is if the incorporation of Team DNA that was featured on this years Live series. I'm still waiting to play against teams that behave similar to their actual counterparts.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Sidewinder Sidewinder

I like this idea because it makes it sound more realistic. Let's just hope it doesn't take away the deep ball completely and receivers don't automatically get shutdown every time.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Sidewinder Sidewinder

I like this idea because it makes it sound more realistic. Let's just hope it doesn't take away the deep ball completely and receivers don't automatically get shutdown every time.
bob

u should be able to pick off near the sidelines
bob

u should be able to pick off near the sidelines
Guru

These improvements are good honestly, but really they need to give franchise mode a complete and utter overhaul…..After about year 10, ALL your players, mostly draft picks at thhis point, average AWR rating is like a 65……..
I do not know what AWR impacts in the game, but if there isnt any sort of progressive AWR increase for good yearly performance, what the hell is the point of playing a franchise anyway? And when I hire a new coach , IMPLEMENT his playbook in the game preview screen…..I hate hiring Jon Gruden, who runs a cover 2, to the Dolphins, who run a 3-4
Guru

These improvements are good honestly, but really they need to give franchise mode a complete and utter overhaul…..After about year 10, ALL your players, mostly draft picks at thhis point, average AWR rating is like a 65……..
I do not know what AWR impacts in the game, but if there isnt any sort of progressive AWR increase for good yearly performance, what the hell is the point of playing a franchise anyway? And when I hire a new coach , IMPLEMENT his playbook in the game preview screen…..I hate hiring Jon Gruden, who runs a cover 2, to the Dolphins, who run a 3-4
IIII 47 IIII

Its great to see these additions, but EA is REALLY, REALLY late. These features(wr/db interactions) were in NFL 2K5. Great to see EA finally catching up tho, coming in just half of a decade late.
IIII 47 IIII

Its great to see these additions, but EA is REALLY, REALLY late. These features(wr/db interactions) were in NFL 2K5. Great to see EA finally catching up tho, coming in just half of a decade late.
Mason

I think EA is forgetting one major thing i used to enjoy on good ol' PS2 Madden and thats when hit sticking somebody their helmet would occasionally pop off?… what happened to this I mean it added so much to a hit and by no means should happen every game but at least once in awhile?
Mason

I think EA is forgetting one major thing i used to enjoy on good ol' PS2 Madden and thats when hit sticking somebody their helmet would occasionally pop off?… what happened to this I mean it added so much to a hit and by no means should happen every game but at least once in awhile?
http://intensedebate.com/people/EPICgabe Gabe G.

yeah
got a feeling theyre going to over do it
http://intensedebate.com/people/EPICgabe Gabe G.

yeah
got a feeling theyre going to over do it
JAMI3N

WHAT TH3Y SHOULD DO IS LIK3 MAK3 TH3 WR OR DB B3TT3R IF TH3Y AR3 MATCHING UP AGAINST A W3AK3R OPPOSITION LIK3 IT IMPROV3S FOR TH3 GAM3 AND IF TH3Y CAN PR3VIAL IT SHOULD B3 P3RMANANT
JAMI3N

WHAT TH3Y SHOULD DO IS LIK3 MAK3 TH3 WR OR DB B3TT3R IF TH3Y AR3 MATCHING UP AGAINST A W3AK3R OPPOSITION LIK3 IT IMPROV3S FOR TH3 GAM3 AND IF TH3Y CAN PR3VIAL IT SHOULD B3 P3RMANANT