
It is still somewhat startling to have the first info on games start to make their way out 6+ months out from release. Such is the case today when I came across the NBA Live 10 development team seeking out feedback for a new element to signature shots that will be included in the game. The goal being worked towards is to provide each player with their own custom shot arc based on how they shoot the ball in real life. You can read all about it on the Inside EA Blog here.
We’ve heard in the past from the community that our shots all look the same in NBA LIVE. Well, we’re changing that. As previously announced by NBA LIVE Designer Mike Wang we’ll have signature shot arcs in NBA LIVE 10. Our goal this year is to have every single player in the NBA with their signature shot arc type. The best example I can give you is Kobe’s low, flat shot arc. With signature shot arcs, we believe that it’ll show some real variety between different players and their jump shots.
This will be interesting cause I’m sure there are a lot of people who have grown to identify arcs that are “off” as a sign a shot is going to be missed. Now an awkward arc won’t necessarily be that indicator. I remember playing Online Team Play against the devs a while back and one discussion on our side during the game was how we could tell if the shot was going to be good or not just based on the arc. So it’s a relief to hear they have identified that as an area for improvement, taking it even a step further than we had imagined by providing players with their own custom arcs.
The Live team has stated they’ll be checking comments and postings in various places for feedback and suggestions on the shot arcs of specific players. So go ahead and leave your thoughts and examples in the comments.
March 24, 2009 at 8:12 pm
First! NBA 2K is still the king of Basketball. 2K Sports > EA Sports
March 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Sigh….when are they gonna realize that it's not in the features…it's in the gameplay. Take a year off and study NBA2k9, because that is what REAL basketball looks like. EA needs to rebuild the engine for the game and make it a truly unique and authentic experience.
March 24, 2009 at 8:16 pm
First! 2K is still king of Basketball Games. 2K Sports >> EA Sports
March 24, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Pretty sick, I wonder why they haven't had this in the past.
March 24, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Dirk's shot is prolly the closest to a rainbow arc that I know of……..
March 24, 2009 at 8:48 pm
The wierdest shot arc I've ever seen in the 2k games is Shaun Marrion's shot. It's absolutely flat. I have no idea how it ever goes in.
March 24, 2009 at 9:03 pm
well when you have a suck game you have to do something to start to create some buzz about the next one EA will put out! Arch shots dont impress me! Better player models and better game play will do the trick for me. Put Nba live 10's features with 2k gameplay and graphics and you have the greatest basketball game of all time
March 24, 2009 at 9:12 pm
I love when games that don't do the basics right try and overshoot and add these kinds of features before getting the core mechanics of the game right. Get the core game of basketball right FIRST, then you can add something like this. All this will be with the current gameplay if fluff, cause it won't matter since the gameplay sucks. Anyway, nice try, EA.
March 24, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Yeah it's nice they are adding those details. But 2K has done that for a while, and it's nothing that needed to be announced. It's just something that should be done. Live also needs to improve their ball physics. Compared to 2k the ball hits the rim and travels un-naturally. But i've always liked in 2K how Dirk and Ben Gordon's shot sail in the air. Now Live fans can enjoy that. But once again, it won't mean anything without realistic ball physics. Hope they get that right.
March 24, 2009 at 9:16 pm
By the way, Pasta. Love your site. Been an anonymous visitor and poster for sometime now. Signed up with IntenseDebate today. Didn't post a comment for the free dowload because I'm too busy playing The Show's RTTS to have any time for any other sports game. Kudos on a great website, though. Love the constant updates. I get all my gaming info from this site, Gamespot and IGN and that's it.
Thanks again!
March 24, 2009 at 9:47 pm
lol, a feature that comes to nba live now?? 2k has had this since the signature styles were introduced in 2k7. now Mike Wang, the former gameplay designer from 2k is helping EA sports add features that are nothing new to basketball video games! what a disgrace. NBA LIVE IS A JOKE. they have had nba live 06,07, 08 and 09 on next-gen and they are nothing close to the greatness of nba 2k. live has a long way to go before it comes even close to 2k.
March 24, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Totally valid point and I agree. Which is why in the article I said that other things of course need fixed and that we are working on those, I just thought it'd be a cool piece of info for everyone and would love to give you guys the opportunity to weigh in on specific shot arc types. We understand that 2K does a lot of things right, and if we're putting something in that 2K already has, I still think we should talk about it because we want to show all of you that we're doing what NBA LIVE needs even if it's in 2K already.
March 24, 2009 at 10:26 pm
although it seems small this will improve the quality of the game. it was so frustrating to be able to tell if my shots would go in or not. the normal arcs would clank off. the ridiculous arcs where you couldn't see the ball on the screen would go in.
March 24, 2009 at 10:38 pm
thats one area that live needs to really catch up in. regardless of the game playing sound, the feel is still so far behind 2k. signature arcs (and hopefully used with sig animations too) makes live a more viable choice for some 2k fans now
March 25, 2009 at 2:33 am
wow, "a more viable choice" my assss. i will never buy an nba live game for as long as i play videogames! never!!!
March 24, 2009 at 10:42 pm
damn i just noticed that kobe has a flat shot in 2k and they have siganture shots! way to go mike wang! try to bash 2k in an interview then steal the features! you are off to a great start!
March 24, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Wow Live didn't have sig shot arcs yet? Man I knew that they were behind 2K but I didn't know they were this far behind! While it's good they EA is adding this, it shouldn't be something that is advertised. Something as basic as shot arcs should've been in the game a long time ago. That's the problem with EA, they try to promote things as "new features" when it's a given that it should be in the game already. Like someone already said, EA should just get their foundation solid before adding anymore features. They should spend the whole year just improving gameplay & nothing else. Well while they're at it, they need to add signature dribbling styles too! Don't just stop with sig arc shots. If you're going for signature play then go all the way with it. I really want to buy Live this year but they're so far behind 2K's gameplay & detail that it'll take EA a fews years to catch up.
March 24, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Well, I applaud the effort and must say as a sports video game nut, a good NBA Live game next year is good for all of us, so I wish you the best of luck in improving the game. Just don't forget to get the basics right before jumping into other things, that's all. The game looks great, it just needs to play better. Having decent ball physics is a basic need of any sports game. But get the basics of the physics right before worrying about jumping to "signature" shots, that's all I'm saying. If you can make the jump and do it well, while presenting a strong game of basketball, then more power to you. Here's hoping you succeed! I give Live a try with the demo every year, hoping it's better. Getting there, but not quite yet.
March 24, 2009 at 11:42 pm
EA just needs to scrap the Live series, its just incredibly subpar. The only good thing they have going is their online play, but when the gameplay itsself is terrible that doesnt matter. EA just doesnt know basketball. Period.
March 25, 2009 at 2:34 am
yea at the rate they are going, sony's nba series has better potential than nba live!! lol easports is a disgrace!!
EASPORTS!! ITS IN THE SHAME!!
March 24, 2009 at 11:49 pm
to add to this I think they should add better net physics so swishes for different shot arcs causes the net to different things. If they could get a realistic net in the game or at least more realistic net than 2k it would at least get me looking at the game.
March 25, 2009 at 2:36 am
just buy 2k10 and forget this waste of a game and a waste of 60 bucks, or 240 bucks if you have bought every nextgen live game so far.
2k has the realism, gameplay, graphics(finally in 2k9, the players look incredible), and presentation thats needed for any basketball game on next-gen.
March 25, 2009 at 4:01 am
Exactly! I won't even consider this game until they get the basics down starting with net physics! The overall game needs to be more fluid. It's still too robotic.
March 25, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Yeah Wang made mention of the robotic feel, he said they are getting rid of that and addressing it. They also are changing the net physics as well. Marcus Stephenson is on the EA forums releasing more information than what's listed on the blog. Such as manual bank shots (ala Tim Duncan) and fixing annoyances such as: layups with no use of backboards (George Gervin flash backs).
March 25, 2009 at 12:42 am
Yessir, we're planning on that.
March 25, 2009 at 2:33 am
exactly!! thank you for knowing what i mean!!
March 25, 2009 at 2:37 am
the last live game i owned was live 06, which i only had because it was included in my 360 bundle that i bought on launch. before that i bought nba 2k2 played it for 2 years, then got nba live 2005, then 06, and now its been 2k since 2k7 and i will never go back! never!!!
March 25, 2009 at 2:39 am
im not saying that to back up 2k or go against EA, but its the truth, based on the reviews 2k has received for the last 8 years!
any true die hard NBA fan like myself knows a great nba video game when he sees one.
March 25, 2009 at 11:17 am
There hasn't been a GREAT NBA game since last gen. NBA 2K2 and NBA Live 2005 IMO were the last "great" basketball games for the series. I'll admit though, last year both series did improve.
March 25, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Jr Stop defending this wreck that is a basketball game and realize people want to play the game not waste time flipping through wasteless dna crap if the gameplay sucks!! There hasnt been a great game cause 2k has its faults also but it is the better of the two. I would love to know what 2k is also planning to do next year. Pasta any info on that??
March 25, 2009 at 1:53 pm
okafor, as I stated before, you don't have an end all be all opinion. There are some that prefer one over the other. I have both games. The gameplay is decent, and with the addition of custom slider modifications its been rather enjoyable. Okafor, I purchase both games every year. In the past I've prefered 2K over Live, but have been quick to criticize both and stated that both have been average games or worse in the past. I love how you just come on here and start blasting. Go to previous blogs on NBA Live and 2K, especially within the past 2 years and you can see how I've voiced my opinion.
Okafor, obviously you don't follow much on gaming development, as 2K never really releases any information 2K basketball until late late summer or near launch. Newbs, gotta love em.
March 25, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I'll be at E3. If the game is there I'll be writing about it. But I don't expect much info until probably August for 2K10. That's just 2K's M.O.
March 25, 2009 at 7:27 pm
yea, 2k is great with keeping advertising behind wraps. and then come october, we get an almost perfect basketball simulation game every single year!! 2k2-2k10!! and beyond!! keep up the good work 2ksports!!
March 26, 2009 at 1:14 pm
2k should change its M.O. They are about to be at a crossroads with its suck baseball game and its basketball game that i feel is at a stall. and i dont even want to mention what else they have in there lineup
March 25, 2009 at 2:41 am
how something like shot arcs is considered a feature in an nba game boggles my mind. thats just common sense in basketball. this whole thing is a joke.
March 25, 2009 at 4:18 am
id have to disagree just like a stance in baseball back a few years ago they all stood the same it makes a big difference you will see
March 25, 2009 at 5:04 am
This was never intended to be a "big announcement." I just happened to post the comment about bank shots and shot arcs on operationsports because we were discussing ball physics a while back. Then Marcus put the blog on EA's site to solicit feedback. Obviously we know we have to focus on 5-on-5 oncourt play before working on "the little things." But we're not ready to announce the major gameplay improvements and additions just yet… after all, it's only March. Later this summer when we start to talk about what we've been doing this year, you guys will see that we're addressing the right things.
March 25, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Mike you suck! I hope you can do for live what you helped do for 2k but if this is the type of stuff you are annoucing that will be fixed you are already in some trouble!
March 25, 2009 at 10:09 am
Well this has been in 2k already for years….i could care less about this…SHOT ARCS AMAZING NEW FEATURES OMG….no..i will be waiting for new gameplay mechanics… i really hope they do announce new gameplay stuff…otherwise 2k10 gets my 60$
Also i never even notice shot arcs when im really into a game.
March 25, 2009 at 1:58 pm
When did they announce this being a "new feature" I'm trying to figure out how they are advertising it as such. I see it more as them giving updates as to what they've been working on.
March 25, 2009 at 11:01 am
Haha. Yeah, I totally know how you feel on this one. To me that was the most distracting flaw of the game.
March 25, 2009 at 11:04 am
Josh, I don't think this is going to be pushed as a "feature" but rather improving on gameplay foundation, since shooting is apart of basketball. Based of Wang's interview earlier they are working on all the core foundations as well, to include addressing the robotic feel of the AI, boxing out, lose balls etc.
March 25, 2009 at 1:32 pm
You make a game with out a feature that should have been it since day one! Thank Mike Wang for giving people more ammo to talk about why live sucks soo bad!
March 25, 2009 at 2:12 pm
See there is your problem okafor, the discussion is about what's going to be implemented. It's easy to go back in hind sight and say "coulda would shoulda" We can do the same thing about 2K and their online issues with 2K9, but lets just discuss the topic on hand instead of past strategies which could not have changed. Obviously Mike Wang is focused on what needs to be fixed, and soliciting feedback on how to improve the game, whereas fanboys are just saying "well 2K had it". Who freaking cares? If it can make a game better, it can make it better. Live came out with 365, and then 2K immediately pushed out the insider feature to keep their rosters updated. This isn't a who comes out with what first, if its an element that should be in the game (notice how I said element and not feature, yet you keep on saying it's being touted as a feature yet you've offered no evidence on it being touted as a feature), then it should be in the game.
March 25, 2009 at 11:14 am
Mike Wang,
I think that NBA LIVE will need a little more transparency earlier on. We would like to provide community feedback early on. There are those who see the series gradually improving; however, the discontent on here comes from NBA Live not realizing it's full potential. Any avid video game basketball player remembers playing NBA Live when it was the best game in town, and would like to see them return to their glory days and see the product improve. You want to win NBA Live fans? Make them feel that they've actually contributed to the game and have them feel like they've been heard. The 2K series hasn't had to do that, 1) Because they implement some of the countermeasures towards Live complains and 2) Live's shortcomings.
Utilize your blog, provide consistent updates, solicit user feedback year round. Explain why certain things can't be implemented early on, poll users on what they would like to see.
I prefered NBA Live over 2K this year, mostly because of FIBA, DNA and 365. Had those features not been included then I would have been with 2K all the way.
Based off your ESPN article I know you guys are working on many other things also to include the revamping of player models, player movement, 5 on 5, and bringing in some of the NBA street/life type feel into the game.
Transparency and inclusion is key Mr. Wang to winning Live fans. It's bananas.
March 25, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I agree on many of your points. Though I do think it is important to note that it was Live that was really the first to start this early feedback/earlier community event trend. Now the other titles have taken off on that and hopefully Live expands in that regard as well.
March 25, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Definitely. I wish there was more transparency with the community and feedback is solicited from day one on a project, but realistically I know that won't happen due to intellectual integrity and competition, but would be nice.
March 25, 2009 at 11:20 am
Marcus what about bringing back the right analog stick to shot free throws? Just feels so unnatural using the shoot button after all these years to shoot free throws.
March 25, 2009 at 3:36 am
This has been in 2k since 2k7. live is lightyears behind. This should come standard in a basketball game. Wow what a joke!
March 25, 2009 at 1:25 pm
fiba? and dna 365 are the reasons you liked live over 2k?? Intresting. This is why Live keeps putting this crap out! Guys Like you will buy it for gimmick features!
March 25, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Wow, Pasta is stepping up having developers post on his blog. Although it happens to be for a terrible game that pales in comparison to 2K on every level. Live used to be about gimmicks, but now they have fallen off so bad that they have to resort to worn out ideas already implemnted by the other game. If you thought it neccessary to implement shot arcs that 2K has perfected, atleast add something new to the shot arc mechanic. Such as contested shots having a different trajectory than non contested ones which would mimic the players' sig style shots. The only hope that this franchise has is Beluba a.k.a. Mike Wang, but then again he cannot be the panacea for all the things wrong with this sorry franchise. 2K10 all the way!
March 25, 2009 at 1:30 pm
live has been a joke for a while now!!! tHE ONLY REASON I HAD A DREAM CAST BACK IN THE DAYS WAS CAUSE OF 2K!
March 25, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I believe each game has their pros and cons to both games. I own both games, and play both games. I felt 2K took a step back in terms of fluidness this year and too much sliding. I'm not saying Live is without faults (God knows they have many of them) but that's one thing I always appreciated about 2K. The online for 2K was a killer for me at launch. Live 365 and DNA aren't gimmicks, they are part of a long term strategy.
Understand I follow both series, I purchase both series, I pay attention to the progression of each series and that's where I place most of my critique in. With appropriate sliders NBA Live has been enjoyable. Does it need improvement? Hell yes it does. Gameplay wise, it's not on par with 2K, but in terms of longetivity, Live has been the better purchase for me personally.
As I stated, I own both games, I purchase both. There are many things I like about both games, and many things I dislike. When sliders are put into play, I'm very satisfied with the way NBA Live plays. 2K out of the box has tons of animations which makes the game very appealing and adds little touches that makes you feel you're in the game. Just a matter of preference bro, but don't come on here with an end all be all type of opinion, because it really just makes you look like a troll. Before you rebute use some other line than the following:
"You're on EA's pay role"
"Mrs. Pasta Padre"
"EA Fanboy"
"Not a true gamer"
"Never played basketball in your life"
Etc.
Please use something original. Thanks
Josh care to crack something new? Anyone see sdot lately?
March 26, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Ok… JR testy arent we. lol…..At the end of the day Live is a dissapointment. And at the end of the day you dont see 2k having to hire any developers off of EA sports team to help revamp the game. My gripes with live is always with the gameplay. I'm not into things like dna 365 (and i add its a very good feature) or online play(other than downloads for immediate roster updates) I want better gameplay from either one of them!
March 25, 2009 at 2:11 pm
No need to knock any game before it's released. I have to admit, I haven't bought a game in the NBA Live series in a few years, because it has just paled in comparison to the 2K series. But I'm not going to start knocking the game in March for God's sake! It's nice to see the developers actually listening to gamers, and the fact that they are doing so so early in the development cycle means that what the gamers are looking for might actually be implemented in the game.
I'm always skeptical, but there's no need to knock the game. I remember a time when I wouldn't touch Sony's MLB series and now it's one of the best sports games of all-time. Just goes to "Show", pardon the pun, that anything is possible.
And, by the way, when you knock a game eight months before it comes out, you just sound like a fanboy. True gamers play the best games no matter who makes them. Here's to hoping BOTH 2K and NBA Live are great games next year!
March 25, 2009 at 2:13 pm
When was it touted as a feature? I thought this was an update to an element they are putting into the game mechanics. Maybe its just me and the basic ability to grasp text. I dunno.
March 26, 2009 at 1:18 pm
You also didn't know that this is one of the many things EA didnt figure out thatwas suppose to be in a BASKETBALL GAME!!
March 25, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Developers have been posting on his blogs for at least a year now, maybe even longer.
March 25, 2009 at 3:53 pm
So basically you spent last year bashing Live 09 without even playing it? Wow bro, I thought you had played it. I actually respected your opinion.
March 25, 2009 at 4:25 pm
While this is all fine and dandy. I will never purchase NBA Live again, no matter how many improvements they make. They burned the last bridge they had with me with 07. I will try the game out thru demo and friends, but as far as me buying it…that will NEVER happen again.
I personally emailed the staff at EA, and well as David Garder when he was there and got a response from Jon Long, maybe Ill give him a call, it was 650.628.xxxx ill have to find that card. I still have the email he sent as the one I sent Matt, Brent,Jon and Loren in Tech and Warrenty. Maybe I'll post it one of these days for you all to read. Ive been to EA Canada, and have most of the staffs business cards.
But Like I said the bridge is burnt. NBA 2k gets my money. Anyways..Between this site and OS you can find my on the OS forums(dif name), they seem to have more info. Pasta you need to stop by DigiPen one day, we're not too far from one another.
March 25, 2009 at 7:29 pm
same here. the improvements they make are nothing close to "IMPROVEMENTS". they include features that should be in an nba game, or a basketball game for that matter, by default!! no advertising should be required for something as simple as shot arcs.
NBA 2K forever as long as i play games!
March 25, 2009 at 9:41 pm
live seems to be on its way to competing again. even if live was a 10 gameplay this year, i wouldnt have been able to get into it with the generic shots after playing 2k basketball. but now, the field is open
March 26, 2009 at 2:51 am
WTF!!!! 2K FANS ALWAYS THINK IS SOOOO GUD BUT THEIR GAME PLAY IS NOOOOOO BETTER THEN LIVES. COME ON I CAN SPIN N CIRCLES WITH A PLAYER WITHOUT HIS FEET TOUCHING THE GROUND. THEY ONLY HAVE GOOD GRAPHICS. SO STOP HATIN ON LIVE SO MUCH.
March 26, 2009 at 2:54 am
I AGREE WITH MCULBERSON 1000%. HE KNOWS WAT HE'S TLKIN ABOUT. CANT COUNT LIVE OUT 8 MONTHS B4 IT COMES OUT.
March 26, 2009 at 11:57 am
I must admit i played live again this year untill i got 2k9 and then i didn;t play live anymore. 2k9 is just much deeper and looks a lot better. Live has some advantages like the 365 feature, but when i started to see the same jumpers over and over again it started to piss me off a little. I will still buy live 10 caus eit comes out a moth earlier than 2k9 here where i live, but i probably will be playing 2k10 again next year over live.
I really don;t care about the arcs on the shots just the shots themselves. I think live has 10 to 20 different shottypes, while 2k9 has 200 or 300. creating a player is more fun and playing games seem more real even more real than the 365 feature. I love live still , but they need to step it up with more detailed moves and signature stuff in the game.
March 26, 2009 at 12:37 pm
I'm hoping one game implements a "demand the ball/clutch" type of feature. Where players like Lebron/Kobe/Wade tend to be passive aggressive in the first 3 quarters (depending on the flow of the game) and in the 4th see the ball a lot. I've really been looking at what I'd like to see new out of both franchises. I've never seen a pull up 3 by the CPU at the top of the key on a fast break. Granted our coaches back in high school and college would probably make us run lines for doing it, it happens a lot in the NBA. More contested jumpers by the CPU would be nice, and pumping faking and drawing more fouls. NBA video game basketball talk 6 months out…uggg, makes me too anxious.
March 26, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Same here Jr. Better players should start to be more aggresive when its clutch time. too many times i play and someone else is scoring points. I also want the cpu to actually try to shoot fast when the game is close and little time remaining. not dribble the time out and loose by 2 points! and hold up jr i have never seen a pull up 3 on a fast break! what games are you watching???? nba jamz???
March 26, 2009 at 8:11 pm
You've never seen Wade, Kobe, Fisher, or Billups (to name a few) pull up for a spot up 3 on the break if they are open? Scottie Pippen was famous starting that trend.
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Jimmie Rutledge
Sent from Chesapeake, Virginia, United States
March 26, 2009 at 9:16 pm
first off d wade has never been a 3pt shooter, kobe, dfisch and billups can cause they have the respect from a coach to do so but how often would they really pull up to shoot a three on a break?? are you sure you wasnt on the nba jamz development team???? lol
March 26, 2009 at 1:12 pm
No i dont follow development and dont really care to do so. I only play games mostly sports and call em as i see them.
March 26, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Never "testy" I've heard it all, but based off your rants, you sounds like the "testy" one.
Live has progressed since 2008, and granted the game play isn't better than 2K's out the box, 2K's gameplay is the lesser of two evils. That's the way I see it. Whereas Live has progressed the last couple editions, in some respects 2K9 was a half step back. You have been quick to criticize Live, but yet you've not one pointed out one flaw of 2K, which shows your biase.
Live was received decent reviews, and provided a patch fixing a lot of flaws upon release. As Mr. Wang said, that 2K isn't scalable enough to address it's issues, and covers up their flaws by adding more animations. For example, they a couple years back they were talking about their own footplanting technology, but couldn't fix it, and instead just continue to add on more pre-set animations which takes away from user control. I'm glad EA is bringing in the right people to address some of the other issues, it shows that they are progressive and want to put out a better product.
Have you followed anything on Live 2010? If you go to the forums, gameplay is their biggest focus this year. From ball physics, shooting (to include shooting styles and archs), rebounding/boxing out, movement, player models/physics and movement, net physics, layups, even bringing in manual bank shot shooting mechanics in the game.
As I've stated, I'm looking for the best quality basketball game so I can play throughout the year because pro basketball is my favorite sport. For the first time in years I've played a game and made it to the all-star game (I haven't done this since 2005 w/ 2K or Live).
I'll be just as critical with Live as I'll be with 2K. They both have their flaws. This year though, made me feel as if there were finally two decent basketball titles on the market. Live won some fans back this year and satisfied it's base. 2K appealed to it's base, but it terms of it's gameplay, I feel it took half a step back, whereas the previous 4 years it had been about progression. Hopefully Wang was wrong about the 2K ceiling in terms of it's engine, because there are many things that 2K does right and as long as their is competition it means nothing but good things for consumers.
March 26, 2009 at 8:00 pm
That is your problem right there Jr. See unlike you I have actually played basketball at a high level not just a fan. So when I play a basketball game i know what is basketball period. And when i play 2k its as real as basketball as i can get with out having to go out into the street and dribble around and shoot hoops. Both games have its flaws and 2k have some issues that i wish would be corrected. I'm not a FANBOY cause i dont really care about either one cause both of them have issues but ill take the lesser of the 2 and that is 2k right now. I dont think 2k has reached its ceiling cause it has some gameplay issues that need to be resolved and can add some more features like live has. Like I have said time and time again if you want to continue this just go and check out the sales number and you will get a better indication of what other people think about live.
March 26, 2009 at 8:10 pm
You can't assume anything about anyone on here. Played basketball at a high level, lol, the same can be said about me, but it doesn't qualify me as a basketball video gaming programming expert. You just made yourself sound like a clown.
You're doing a nice job of back peddling now and admitting to 2K's fault, but lets stick to the discussion at hand instead of your fanboyism. Your rhetoric is predictable, and in fact nothing different than what a lot have said on here.
Thanks for proving my valid points.
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Jimmie Rutledge
Sent from Chesapeake, Virginia, United States
March 26, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Lets focus on the right now. This just makes you sound like a fanboy. I'm looking at progression. Both games lack a lot of things that should be in the game. My POINT was that Live didn't tout this as a feature, merely an update on what they've been up to on their blog.
March 26, 2009 at 8:02 pm
what the hell are you serious! this is basic part of basketball that should have been in the game already! they are finally putting it in 2010 and you think this is ok??
March 26, 2009 at 8:08 pm
I'm not looking at the past, as this team of programs heading the charge have only been on for a year or 2 and in that time frame NBA Live has improved by leaps and bounds. Thing is, going tit for tat does nothing.
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Jimmie Rutledge