NBA Live 10 To Have Custom Shot Arcs

by pastapadre
Posted March 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pm

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It is still somewhat startling to have the first info on games start to make their way out 6+ months out from release. Such is the case today when I came across the NBA Live 10 development team seeking out feedback for a new element to signature shots that will be included in the game. The goal being worked towards is to provide each player with their own custom shot arc based on how they shoot the ball in real life. You can read all about it on the Inside EA Blog here.

We’ve heard in the past from the community that our shots all look the same in NBA LIVE. Well, we’re changing that. As previously announced by NBA LIVE Designer Mike Wang we’ll have signature shot arcs in NBA LIVE 10. Our goal this year is to have every single player in the NBA with their signature shot arc type. The best example I can give you is Kobe’s low, flat shot arc. With signature shot arcs, we believe that it’ll show some real variety between different players and their jump shots.

This will be interesting cause I’m sure there are a lot of people who have grown to identify arcs that are “off” as a sign a shot is going to be missed. Now an awkward arc won’t necessarily be that indicator. I remember playing Online Team Play against the devs a while back and one discussion on our side during the game was how we could tell if the shot was going to be good or not just based on the arc. So it’s a relief to hear they have identified that as an area for improvement, taking it even a step further than we had imagined by providing players with their own custom arcs.

The Live team has stated they’ll be checking comments and postings in various places for feedback and suggestions on the shot arcs of specific players. So go ahead and leave your thoughts and examples in the comments.

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T.Raps

First! NBA 2K is still the king of Basketball. 2K Sports > EA Sports
T.Raps

First! NBA 2K is still the king of Basketball. 2K Sports > EA Sports
Alkex

Sigh….when are they gonna realize that it's not in the features…it's in the gameplay. Take a year off and study NBA2k9, because that is what REAL basketball looks like. EA needs to rebuild the engine for the game and make it a truly unique and authentic experience.
Alkex\

Sigh….when are they gonna realize that it's not in the features…it's in the gameplay. Take a year off and study NBA2k9, because that is what REAL basketball looks like. EA needs to rebuild the engine for the game and make it a truly unique and authentic experience.
T-Raps

First! 2K is still king of Basketball Games. 2K Sports >> EA Sports
T-Raps

First! 2K is still king of Basketball Games. 2K Sports >> EA Sports
http://intensedebate.com/people/MSUFan MSUFan

Pretty sick, I wonder why they haven't had this in the past.
http://intensedebate.com/people/MSUFan MSUFan

Pretty sick, I wonder why they haven't had this in the past.
http://intensedebate.com/people/r00tabaga r00tabaga

Dirk's shot is prolly the closest to a rainbow arc that I know of……..
http://intensedebate.com/people/r00tabaga r00tabaga

Dirk's shot is prolly the closest to a rainbow arc that I know of……..
http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

The wierdest shot arc I've ever seen in the 2k games is Shaun Marrion's shot. It's absolutely flat. I have no idea how it ever goes in.
http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

The wierdest shot arc I've ever seen in the 2k games is Shaun Marrion's shot. It's absolutely flat. I have no idea how it ever goes in.
http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

well when you have a suck game you have to do something to start to create some buzz about the next one EA will put out! Arch shots dont impress me! Better player models and better game play will do the trick for me. Put Nba live 10's features with 2k gameplay and graphics and you have the greatest basketball game of all time
http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

well when you have a suck game you have to do something to start to create some buzz about the next one EA will put out! Arch shots dont impress me! Better player models and better game play will do the trick for me. Put Nba live 10's features with 2k gameplay and graphics and you have the greatest basketball game of all time
http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

I love when games that don't do the basics right try and overshoot and add these kinds of features before getting the core mechanics of the game right. Get the core game of basketball right FIRST, then you can add something like this. All this will be with the current gameplay if fluff, cause it won't matter since the gameplay sucks. Anyway, nice try, EA.
http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

I love when games that don't do the basics right try and overshoot and add these kinds of features before getting the core mechanics of the game right. Get the core game of basketball right FIRST, then you can add something like this. All this will be with the current gameplay if fluff, cause it won't matter since the gameplay sucks. Anyway, nice try, EA.
CTROB

Yeah it's nice they are adding those details. But 2K has done that for a while, and it's nothing that needed to be announced. It's just something that should be done. Live also needs to improve their ball physics. Compared to 2k the ball hits the rim and travels un-naturally. But i've always liked in 2K how Dirk and Ben Gordon's shot sail in the air. Now Live fans can enjoy that. But once again, it won't mean anything without realistic ball physics. Hope they get that right.
CTROB

Yeah it's nice they are adding those details. But 2K has done that for a while, and it's nothing that needed to be announced. It's just something that should be done. Live also needs to improve their ball physics. Compared to 2k the ball hits the rim and travels un-naturally. But i've always liked in 2K how Dirk and Ben Gordon's shot sail in the air. Now Live fans can enjoy that. But once again, it won't mean anything without realistic ball physics. Hope they get that right.
http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

By the way, Pasta. Love your site. Been an anonymous visitor and poster for sometime now. Signed up with IntenseDebate today. Didn't post a comment for the free dowload because I'm too busy playing The Show's RTTS to have any time for any other sports game. Kudos on a great website, though. Love the constant updates. I get all my gaming info from this site, Gamespot and IGN and that's it.

Thanks again!
http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

By the way, Pasta. Love your site. Been an anonymous visitor and poster for sometime now. Signed up with IntenseDebate today. Didn't post a comment for the free dowload because I'm too busy playing The Show's RTTS to have any time for any other sports game. Kudos on a great website, though. Love the constant updates. I get all my gaming info from this site, Gamespot and IGN and that's it.

Thanks again!
Dee

lol, a feature that comes to nba live now?? 2k has had this since the signature styles were introduced in 2k7. now Mike Wang, the former gameplay designer from 2k is helping EA sports add features that are nothing new to basketball video games! what a disgrace. NBA LIVE IS A JOKE. they have had nba live 06,07, 08 and 09 on next-gen and they are nothing close to the greatness of nba 2k. live has a long way to go before it comes even close to 2k.
Dee

lol, a feature that comes to nba live now?? 2k has had this since the signature styles were introduced in 2k7. now Mike Wang, the former gameplay designer from 2k is helping EA sports add features that are nothing new to basketball video games! what a disgrace. NBA LIVE IS A JOKE. they have had nba live 06,07, 08 and 09 on next-gen and they are nothing close to the greatness of nba 2k. live has a long way to go before it comes even close to 2k.
http://www.nbalive09.com/ Marcus Stephenson

Totally valid point and I agree. Which is why in the article I said that other things of course need fixed and that we are working on those, I just thought it'd be a cool piece of info for everyone and would love to give you guys the opportunity to weigh in on specific shot arc types. We understand that 2K does a lot of things right, and if we're putting something in that 2K already has, I still think we should talk about it because we want to show all of you that we're doing what NBA LIVE needs even if it's in 2K already.
http://www.nbalive09.com Marcus Stephenson

Totally valid point and I agree. Which is why in the article I said that other things of course need fixed and that we are working on those, I just thought it'd be a cool piece of info for everyone and would love to give you guys the opportunity to weigh in on specific shot arc types. We understand that 2K does a lot of things right, and if we're putting something in that 2K already has, I still think we should talk about it because we want to show all of you that we're doing what NBA LIVE needs even if it's in 2K already.
http://intensedebate.com/people/GoBobcats GoBobcats

although it seems small this will improve the quality of the game. it was so frustrating to be able to tell if my shots would go in or not. the normal arcs would clank off. the ridiculous arcs where you couldn't see the ball on the screen would go in.
http://intensedebate.com/people/GoBobcats GoBobcats

although it seems small this will improve the quality of the game. it was so frustrating to be able to tell if my shots would go in or not. the normal arcs would clank off. the ridiculous arcs where you couldn't see the ball on the screen would go in.
http://intensedebate.com/people/FreebirdJones FreebirdJones

thats one area that live needs to really catch up in. regardless of the game playing sound, the feel is still so far behind 2k. signature arcs (and hopefully used with sig animations too) makes live a more viable choice for some 2k fans now

Dee

wow, "a more viable choice" my assss. i will never buy an nba live game for as long as i play videogames! never!!!

http://intensedebate.com/people/FreebirdJones FreebirdJones

thats one area that live needs to really catch up in. regardless of the game playing sound, the feel is still so far behind 2k. signature arcs (and hopefully used with sig animations too) makes live a more viable choice for some 2k fans now

Dee

wow, "a more viable choice" my assss. i will never buy an nba live game for as long as i play videogames! never!!!

Josh

Wow Live didn't have sig shot arcs yet? Man I knew that they were behind 2K but I didn't know they were this far behind! While it's good they EA is adding this, it shouldn't be something that is advertised. Something as basic as shot arcs should've been in the game a long time ago. That's the problem with EA, they try to promote things as "new features" when it's a given that it should be in the game already. Like someone already said, EA should just get their foundation solid before adding anymore features. They should spend the whole year just improving gameplay & nothing else. Well while they're at it, they need to add signature dribbling styles too! Don't just stop with sig arc shots. If you're going for signature play then go all the way with it. I really want to buy Live this year but they're so far behind 2K's gameplay & detail that it'll take EA a fews years to catch up.
http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

damn i just noticed that kobe has a flat shot in 2k and they have siganture shots! way to go mike wang! try to bash 2k in an interview then steal the features! you are off to a great start!
http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

damn i just noticed that kobe has a flat shot in 2k and they have siganture shots! way to go mike wang! try to bash 2k in an interview then steal the features! you are off to a great start!
Josh

Wow Live didn't have sig shot arcs yet? Man I knew that they were behind 2K but I didn't know they were this far behind! While it's good they EA is adding this, it shouldn't be something that is advertised. Something as basic as shot arcs should've been in the game a long time ago. That's the problem with EA, they try to promote things as "new features" when it's a given that it should be in the game already. Like someone already said, EA should just get their foundation solid before adding anymore features. They should spend the whole year just improving gameplay & nothing else. Well while they're at it, they need to add signature dribbling styles too! Don't just stop with sig arc shots. If you're going for signature play then go all the way with it. I really want to buy Live this year but they're so far behind 2K's gameplay & detail that it'll take EA a fews years to catch up.
http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

Well, I applaud the effort and must say as a sports video game nut, a good NBA Live game next year is good for all of us, so I wish you the best of luck in improving the game. Just don't forget to get the basics right before jumping into other things, that's all. The game looks great, it just needs to play better. Having decent ball physics is a basic need of any sports game. But get the basics of the physics right before worrying about jumping to "signature" shots, that's all I'm saying. If you can make the jump and do it well, while presenting a strong game of basketball, then more power to you. Here's hoping you succeed! I give Live a try with the demo every year, hoping it's better. Getting there, but not quite yet.
http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

Well, I applaud the effort and must say as a sports video game nut, a good NBA Live game next year is good for all of us, so I wish you the best of luck in improving the game. Just don't forget to get the basics right before jumping into other things, that's all. The game looks great, it just needs to play better. Having decent ball physics is a basic need of any sports game. But get the basics of the physics right before worrying about jumping to "signature" shots, that's all I'm saying. If you can make the jump and do it well, while presenting a strong game of basketball, then more power to you. Here's hoping you succeed! I give Live a try with the demo every year, hoping it's better. Getting there, but not quite yet.
IIII 47 IIII

EA just needs to scrap the Live series, its just incredibly subpar. The only good thing they have going is their online play, but when the gameplay itsself is terrible that doesnt matter. EA just doesnt know basketball. Period.

Dee

yea at the rate they are going, sony's nba series has better potential than nba live!! lol easports is a disgrace!!

EASPORTS!! ITS IN THE SHAME!!

IIII 47 IIII

EA just needs to scrap the Live series, its just incredibly subpar. The only good thing they have going is their online play, but when the gameplay itsself is terrible that doesnt matter. EA just doesnt know basketball. Period.

Dee

yea at the rate they are going, sony's nba series has better potential than nba live!! lol easports is a disgrace!!

EASPORTS!! ITS IN THE SHAME!!

floridagatorfan

to add to this I think they should add better net physics so swishes for different shot arcs causes the net to different things. If they could get a realistic net in the game or at least more realistic net than 2k it would at least get me looking at the game.

Dee

just buy 2k10 and forget this waste of a game and a waste of 60 bucks, or 240 bucks if you have bought every nextgen live game so far.

2k has the realism, gameplay, graphics(finally in 2k9, the players look incredible), and presentation thats needed for any basketball game on next-gen.
Josh

Exactly! I won't even consider this game until they get the basics down starting with net physics! The overall game needs to be more fluid. It's still too robotic.

http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

Yeah Wang made mention of the robotic feel, he said they are getting rid of that and addressing it. They also are changing the net physics as well. Marcus Stephenson is on the EA forums releasing more information than what's listed on the blog. Such as manual bank shots (ala Tim Duncan) and fixing annoyances such as: layups with no use of backboards (George Gervin flash backs).

floridagatorfan

to add to this I think they should add better net physics so swishes for different shot arcs causes the net to different things. If they could get a realistic net in the game or at least more realistic net than 2k it would at least get me looking at the game.

Dee

just buy 2k10 and forget this waste of a game and a waste of 60 bucks, or 240 bucks if you have bought every nextgen live game so far.

2k has the realism, gameplay, graphics(finally in 2k9, the players look incredible), and presentation thats needed for any basketball game on next-gen.
Josh

Exactly! I won't even consider this game until they get the basics down starting with net physics! The overall game needs to be more fluid. It's still too robotic.

http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

Yeah Wang made mention of the robotic feel, he said they are getting rid of that and addressing it. They also are changing the net physics as well. Marcus Stephenson is on the EA forums releasing more information than what's listed on the blog. Such as manual bank shots (ala Tim Duncan) and fixing annoyances such as: layups with no use of backboards (George Gervin flash backs).

Marcus Stephenson

Yessir, we're planning on that.
Marcus Stephenson

Yessir, we're planning on that.
Dee

exactly!! thank you for knowing what i mean!!
Dee

exactly!! thank you for knowing what i mean!!
Dee

the last live game i owned was live 06, which i only had because it was included in my 360 bundle that i bought on launch. before that i bought nba 2k2 played it for 2 years, then got nba live 2005, then 06, and now its been 2k since 2k7 and i will never go back! never!!!
Dee

the last live game i owned was live 06, which i only had because it was included in my 360 bundle that i bought on launch. before that i bought nba 2k2 played it for 2 years, then got nba live 2005, then 06, and now its been 2k since 2k7 and i will never go back! never!!!
Dee

im not saying that to back up 2k or go against EA, but its the truth, based on the reviews 2k has received for the last 8 years!

any true die hard NBA fan like myself knows a great nba video game when he sees one.

http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

There hasn't been a GREAT NBA game since last gen. NBA 2K2 and NBA Live 2005 IMO were the last "great" basketball games for the series. I'll admit though, last year both series did improve.

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

Jr Stop defending this wreck that is a basketball game and realize people want to play the game not waste time flipping through wasteless dna crap if the gameplay sucks!! There hasnt been a great game cause 2k has its faults also but it is the better of the two. I would love to know what 2k is also planning to do next year. Pasta any info on that??

http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

okafor, as I stated before, you don't have an end all be all opinion. There are some that prefer one over the other. I have both games. The gameplay is decent, and with the addition of custom slider modifications its been rather enjoyable. Okafor, I purchase both games every year. In the past I've prefered 2K over Live, but have been quick to criticize both and stated that both have been average games or worse in the past. I love how you just come on here and start blasting. Go to previous blogs on NBA Live and 2K, especially within the past 2 years and you can see how I've voiced my opinion.

Okafor, obviously you don't follow much on gaming development, as 2K never really releases any information 2K basketball until late late summer or near launch. Newbs, gotta love em.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

I'll be at E3. If the game is there I'll be writing about it. But I don't expect much info until probably August for 2K10. That's just 2K's M.O.

Dee

yea, 2k is great with keeping advertising behind wraps. and then come october, we get an almost perfect basketball simulation game every single year!! 2k2-2k10!! and beyond!! keep up the good work 2ksports!!
http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

2k should change its M.O. They are about to be at a crossroads with its suck baseball game and its basketball game that i feel is at a stall. and i dont even want to mention what else they have in there lineup

Dee

im not saying that to back up 2k or go against EA, but its the truth, based on the reviews 2k has received for the last 8 years!

any true die hard NBA fan like myself knows a great nba video game when he sees one.

http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

There hasn't been a GREAT NBA game since last gen. NBA 2K2 and NBA Live 2005 IMO were the last "great" basketball games for the series. I'll admit though, last year both series did improve.

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

Jr Stop defending this wreck that is a basketball game and realize people want to play the game not waste time flipping through wasteless dna crap if the gameplay sucks!! There hasnt been a great game cause 2k has its faults also but it is the better of the two. I would love to know what 2k is also planning to do next year. Pasta any info on that??

http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

okafor, as I stated before, you don't have an end all be all opinion. There are some that prefer one over the other. I have both games. The gameplay is decent, and with the addition of custom slider modifications its been rather enjoyable. Okafor, I purchase both games every year. In the past I've prefered 2K over Live, but have been quick to criticize both and stated that both have been average games or worse in the past. I love how you just come on here and start blasting. Go to previous blogs on NBA Live and 2K, especially within the past 2 years and you can see how I've voiced my opinion.

Okafor, obviously you don't follow much on gaming development, as 2K never really releases any information 2K basketball until late late summer or near launch. Newbs, gotta love em.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

I'll be at E3. If the game is there I'll be writing about it. But I don't expect much info until probably August for 2K10. That's just 2K's M.O.

Dee

yea, 2k is great with keeping advertising behind wraps. and then come october, we get an almost perfect basketball simulation game every single year!! 2k2-2k10!! and beyond!! keep up the good work 2ksports!!
http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

2k should change its M.O. They are about to be at a crossroads with its suck baseball game and its basketball game that i feel is at a stall. and i dont even want to mention what else they have in there lineup

Dee

how something like shot arcs is considered a feature in an nba game boggles my mind. thats just common sense in basketball. this whole thing is a joke.
Dee

how something like shot arcs is considered a feature in an nba game boggles my mind. thats just common sense in basketball. this whole thing is a joke.
http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

id have to disagree just like a stance in baseball back a few years ago they all stood the same it makes a big difference you will see
http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

id have to disagree just like a stance in baseball back a few years ago they all stood the same it makes a big difference you will see