Early Madden 10 Preview

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Posted April 29th, 2009 at 8:42 am

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On Monday I wrote about NCAA Football 10 coming out of the EA Sports Season Preview Event. While that game showcased features, Madden NFL 10 instead put technical improvements on display.

By now everyone has read about the Pro-Tak technology that allows for up to nine man gang tackles, “fight for the fumble”, pushing the ball carrier, and the formation of a real pocket. Pro-Tak is providing far more than just a small improvement to the tackling animations. It really has a huge affect on everything that will happen on the field and how immersive an experience the game will provide.

In the demonstration lead designer Ian Cummings attempted to show off much of what the technology has allowed for this year. In what could be a good sign it took numerous attempts to see things like a fumble pile-up or large gang tackle. The build was of the Super Bowl rematch and maybe a back like Brandon Jacobs would’ve been more appropriate for some of these animations. Willie Parker dragging defenders isn’t all that realistic or as likely to pull that off in the game. Still it was great to see the players jump on and attempt to affect the play.

It is another benefit of the procedural awareness as well. You’d get offensive players on one side and the defensive players pushing back. Depending on strength and numbers the running back could be sent back (even could result in a whistle to end the play without ever going down) or the pile may push forward gaining crucial yards. You can even go up and hit stick the pile. Interesting factoid: Ben Roethlisberger is the only QB in the game who will attempt to push a pile.

When the ball is loose and multiple players are around it they may jump on the ball which starts the “fight for the fumble” cut scene. This becomes a button mashing game, however instead of just being one button they switch it up throughout the “fight”. After some time the ref comes in, pulls the players off, and signals who has possession. It is an intense cut scene to watch. One thing I tried to make clear is the frustration that would be had if a fumble is obviously recovered but then the “fight for the fumble” happens and the ball changes possession. It was encouraging to hear they are working to make sure that will not occur. The hope is to tune the “fight for the fumble” so that it only happens about once per game. It is an exciting moment, and if it happened more than that not only would it get frustrating but it would lose that appeal.

One of the goals this year was to slim the game down. A new streamlined menu system is one of the first things that will be noticed. They’re attempting to keep the gameplay screen as clean and simplified as possible. The play selection has gone back to a single bar of three plays with no window style presentation. I hope they will have a way to change personnel, view stats, and watch replays without pausing the game though. That wasn’t evident in the build we saw. Also while weapons remain but the icons won’t be visible on field.

Controls wise they have pulled that display off the screen though it is optional and can be put back up. Defensive line moves now use the right stick instead of the bumpers which should make for a much more natural feel. A new addition is the QB Avoidance Stick. In the pocket the controller will rumble when pressure is coming. By hitting the right analog stick the QB will make a quick move. Push up and he’ll step up in the pocket, right to shift right, and left to shift left. From what I saw the QB was usually able to execute the move successfully however it doesn’t mean that there will be another couple comfortable seconds. In many cases the QB bought a little time but then got hit as he was throwing. This is another really nice improvement seeing the QB get the ball off but the throw being affected adversely by the hit.

When I attempted to describe my feeling towards the games coming out of the event it was that NCAA Football 10 was exciting while Madden 10 was impressive. That was just the nature of what they had to show given their different points in the development cycle. Much is still to be revealed for both games. It is only a little over a month until E3 and that is shaping up to be a huge event for the EA Sports titles.

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  • MAR

    Delaware BABY

  • MAR

    Delaware BABY

  • Sweet Lou

    I HAVE A CHUBBY

  • Sweet Lou

    I HAVE A CHUBBY

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SigmaAG SigmaAG

    Awesome. Fantastic. Haha.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SigmaAG SigmaAG

    Awesome. Fantastic. Haha.

  • bux

    aviodence stick like Blitz? sounds like it

  • bux

    aviodence stick like Blitz? sounds like it

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

    this sounds great, EA may have done something right this year.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

    this sounds great, EA may have done something right this year.

  • Badluck

    pasta, any news on franchise mode coming up soon?

  • Badluck

    pasta, any news on franchise mode coming up soon?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

    Both sound like buys for me this year. I'm going to be broke with those two games as well as Batman, Uncharted 2, Infamous among a host of other games that I really want.

    • GREG CAMARILLO

      get game fly

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

    Both sound like buys for me this year. I'm going to be broke with those two games as well as Batman, Uncharted 2, Infamous among a host of other games that I really want.

    • GREG CAMARILLO

      get game fly

  • Anonymous

    i think this is finally the year that madden breaks through and EA finally will give us a game that can change nfl video games forever, much like nfl 2k5 did back in 2004.

    now all they need is some halftime and postgame replay shows and more ESPN content, and NFL 2k5 will be back in all of our rearview mirrors for good!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

      I'm wondering that myself also because if I win the Super Bowl I want it seem like I really won with the confedi and streamers and a trophy presentation. P.S EA should implement a presentation option for those who want it on and the ability to turn it off for others.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Sidewinder Sidewinder

        They said they would have some kind of weekly highlight show, but seeing that it's a new feature, I wouldn't get my hopes up for it this year.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

          Not a fan of NFL 2K5 didn't even play it but from what I've seen from the presentation portion of the game from Youtube I hope and want EA to add some of the same things.

          • JimBone

            Damn. You missed out.

          • footballgamer

            a missed opportunity to play a great game in 2k5

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

            Yeah, last year when I still had my PS2, I found a copy for under $5 at gamestop in the bargain bin and I had to get it just for old time's sake. Although the PS2 version didn't have halftime highlights like the Xbox version, which was the one I originally had, the presentation was still top notch, even by today's standards. I couldn't believe how well the game stood up even today.

            Now, let's not forget it had its gameplay problems as well, but as far as presention is concerned, only MLB The Show series compares in overall presentaion of a sport.

            Still hoping Madden gets the picture this year and realizes that presention is a huge part of the experience. Sounds like they are making steps in the right direction.

    • blazzzealott

      they havve those features :) )))

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

    i think this is finally the year that madden breaks through and EA finally will give us a game that can change nfl video games forever, much like nfl 2k5 did back in 2004.

    now all they need is some halftime and postgame replay shows and more ESPN content, and NFL 2k5 will be back in all of our rearview mirrors for good!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

      I'm wondering that myself also because if I win the Super Bowl I want it seem like I really won with the confedi and streamers and a trophy presentation. P.S EA should implement a presentation option for those who want it on and the ability to turn it off for others.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Sidewinder Sidewinder

        They said they would have some kind of weekly highlight show, but seeing that it's a new feature, I wouldn't get my hopes up for it this year.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

          Not a fan of NFL 2K5 didn't even play it but from what I've seen from the presentation portion of the game from Youtube I hope and want EA to add some of the same things.

          • JimBone

            Damn. You missed out.

          • footballgamer

            a missed opportunity to play a great game in 2k5

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

            Yeah, last year when I still had my PS2, I found a copy for under $5 at gamestop in the bargain bin and I had to get it just for old time's sake. Although the PS2 version didn't have halftime highlights like the Xbox version, which was the one I originally had, the presentation was still top notch, even by today's standards. I couldn't believe how well the game stood up even today.

            Now, let's not forget it had its gameplay problems as well, but as far as presention is concerned, only MLB The Show series compares in overall presentaion of a sport.

            Still hoping Madden gets the picture this year and realizes that presention is a huge part of the experience. Sounds like they are making steps in the right direction.

    • blazzzealott

      they havve those features :) )))

  • tommyfusco

    what about the WII version PAsta? :(

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Ill have a short preview of the Wii version either tonight or tomorrow.

  • tommyfusco

    what about the WII version PAsta? :(

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Ill have a short preview of the Wii version either tonight or tomorrow.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cons1 Cons1

    You have to admit the madden developers are doing some great things this year.

    • Lil Wayne

      to bad it seems ncaa developers are sound asleep imo

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cons1 Cons1

        NCAA is like Madden's shy little brother.

      • pat

        yeah cause ncaa has always been better than madden

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cons1 Cons1

    You have to admit the madden developers are doing some great things this year.

    • Lil Wayne

      to bad it seems ncaa developers are sound asleep imo

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cons1 Cons1

        NCAA is like Madden's shy little brother.

      • pat

        yeah cause ncaa has always been better than madden

  • tester

    Why did they get rid of the window style presentation?

    Sounds like typical EA crap of giving us something good, only to take it away the next year. Oh well, back to crappy presentation that we are used to in Madden. Good grief!

    • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

      have some patience, the things they are adding will make up for that, but yes that was a good feature though…..

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Sidewinder Sidewinder

      I think the EA stereotypes are starting to get outdated.

      They seem like they're really putting together something good this time and the presentation does look improved from last year.

      • footballgamer

        I believe they will be outdated when most of the gripes in the game are resolved and improved…….until then, let the stereotypes live on.

  • tester

    Why did they get rid of the window style presentation?

    Sounds like typical EA crap of giving us something good, only to take it away the next year. Oh well, back to crappy presentation that we are used to in Madden. Good grief!

    • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

      have some patience, the things they are adding will make up for that, but yes that was a good feature though…..

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Sidewinder Sidewinder

      I think the EA stereotypes are starting to get outdated.

      They seem like they're really putting together something good this time and the presentation does look improved from last year.

      • footballgamer

        I believe they will be outdated when most of the gripes in the game are resolved and improved…….until then, let the stereotypes live on.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

    looking forward to this game now tight

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

    looking forward to this game now tight

  • 23speed

    I just hope we get a franchise mode that works this year. 06,07,08,09 we got nothing. EA better get this right for 2010.

    • 28uknowit

      Last years worked after they patched it.

      • Scott

        they shouldn't have had to patch it to begin with

  • 23speed

    I just hope we get a franchise mode that works this year. 06,07,08,09 we got nothing. EA better get this right for 2010.

    • 28uknowit

      Last years worked after they patched it.

      • Scott

        they shouldn't have had to patch it to begin with

  • COLTS!!!!!!!STEELERS

    sounds great and all but the QB thing I'm sure some ppl are going to have a problem with since ppl would not shut up about how hard it was for them to get a sack now they made it a little harder. (I myself have no problem getting sacks tho so I love this) Now tell us about the new online modes!!!!!!!!!!!! TEAM PLAY PLZ

  • COLTS!!!!!!!STEELERS

    sounds great and all but the QB thing I'm sure some ppl are going to have a problem with since ppl would not shut up about how hard it was for them to get a sack now they made it a little harder. (I myself have no problem getting sacks tho so I love this) Now tell us about the new online modes!!!!!!!!!!!! TEAM PLAY PLZ

  • umbrellablack

    i just wanna know when there going to release all the player ratings this year, anyone?

  • umbrellablack

    i just wanna know when there going to release all the player ratings this year, anyone?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cons1 Cons1

    probably just before the game comes out

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cons1 Cons1

    probably just before the game comes out

  • Mike

    Hey, does anyone know if the AFL 50th anniversary teams are going to have the patch on their uniform, as seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AFCE-Uniform-NE…

  • Mike

    Hey, does anyone know if the AFL 50th anniversary teams are going to have the patch on their uniform, as seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AFCE-Uniform-NE…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

    Madden 10 is looking and sounding great. I cannot wait to see vids of the different gang tackles and scramble for fumbles.

    With both football titles looking strong, then toss in Tiger Woods 10 FINALLY with PGA Tour presentation, UFC, FIght Night 4, the summer months are starting to look great for sports gamers….

    • Bee Rockwell

      UFC is phenomenal, and anyone hating on this Madden is completely uninformed about how deep they've gone to get the game back in the hardcore good graces. Can't. Wait.

      You know, as long as Franchise mode gets fixed.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

        I agree. I have played Madden since its inception and I think a lot of the negative feedback is unwarranted. Yes, the games have had flaws but I believe the real issues in terms of "hating" started when EA obtained the exclusive license. For EA in terms of business they made the right play however it definitely caused expectations to skyrocket.

        I do applaud Madden fans of offering feedback and I absolutely love the approach EA has taken the past year in regards to involving the community.

        I enjoyed Madden 09 and cannot wait til August….

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

        I agree. I have played Madden since its inception and I think a lot of the negative feedback is unwarranted. Yes, the games have had flaws but I believe the real issues in terms of "hating" started when EA obtained the exclusive license. For EA in terms of business they made the right play however it definitely caused expectations to skyrocket.

        I do applaud Madden fans for giving some critical feedback and I absolutely love the approach EA has taken the past year in regards to involving the community.

        I enjoyed Madden 09 and cannot wait til August….

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

          Do you think that video Jimmy Fallon played with his QB being carted off hte field was real. I haven't seen that in a Madden game since the Sega Genesis days.

        • Bee Rockwell

          They had me at "network-inspired highlight show."

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

    Madden 10 is looking and sounding great. I cannot wait to see vids of the different gang tackles and scramble for fumbles.

    With both football titles looking strong, then toss in Tiger Woods 10 FINALLY with PGA Tour presentation, UFC, FIght Night 4, the summer months are starting to look great for sports gamers….

    • Bee Rockwell

      UFC is phenomenal, and anyone hating on this Madden is completely uninformed about how deep they've gone to get the game back in the hardcore good graces. Can't. Wait.

      You know, as long as Franchise mode gets fixed.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

        I agree. I have played Madden since its inception and I think a lot of the negative feedback is unwarranted. Yes, the games have had flaws but I believe the real issues in terms of "hating" started when EA obtained the exclusive license. For EA in terms of business they made the right play however it definitely caused expectations to skyrocket.

        I do applaud Madden fans of offering feedback and I absolutely love the approach EA has taken the past year in regards to involving the community.

        I enjoyed Madden 09 and cannot wait til August….

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

        I agree. I have played Madden since its inception and I think a lot of the negative feedback is unwarranted. Yes, the games have had flaws but I believe the real issues in terms of "hating" started when EA obtained the exclusive license. For EA in terms of business they made the right play however it definitely caused expectations to skyrocket.

        I do applaud Madden fans for giving some critical feedback and I absolutely love the approach EA has taken the past year in regards to involving the community.

        I enjoyed Madden 09 and cannot wait til August….

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

          Do you think that video Jimmy Fallon played with his QB being carted off hte field was real. I haven't seen that in a Madden game since the Sega Genesis days.

        • Bee Rockwell

          They had me at "network-inspired highlight show."

  • BLACKFLAGZ10

    SO PASAT JUS SNITCHED MADDEN 2010 OUT! MADDEN IMPRESSIVE NCAA 2010 EXCITING THATS ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR! NCAA 2010 THE BEST FOOTBALL SIM GAME AGAIN THIS YEAR MADDEN 2010= RENTAL! THNX PASAT!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

      Lay off the redbull there buddy tone down with all the caps. ;)

    • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

      yea and use spell checker as well……

  • BLACKFLAGZ10

    SO PASAT JUS SNITCHED MADDEN 2010 OUT! MADDEN IMPRESSIVE NCAA 2010 EXCITING THATS ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR! NCAA 2010 THE BEST FOOTBALL SIM GAME AGAIN THIS YEAR MADDEN 2010= RENTAL! THNX PASAT!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

      Lay off the redbull there buddy tone down with all the caps. ;)

    • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

      yea and use spell checker as well……

  • buddy lee

    they have to work on which I am sure they have not. Defensive Linebackers..shooting gaps and having lateral quicks to stop running back..Dbs..catch up speed..and slow recievers not burning corners on every slant. Also the offensive line when beat never recovers which is also unrealistic…

    YO

    • footballgamer

      yeah, that might just happen…..again. we shall find out once we play it.

    • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

      hey they said in one of their first posts tha man coverage is improved so that slants will not be the best passing play in the game. i don't know everyone's problem wih it, it is easy to stop.

  • buddy lee

    they have to work on which I am sure they have not. Defensive Linebackers..shooting gaps and having lateral quicks to stop running back..Dbs..catch up speed..and slow recievers not burning corners on every slant. Also the offensive line when beat never recovers which is also unrealistic…

    YO

    • footballgamer

      yeah, that might just happen…..again. we shall find out once we play it.

    • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

      hey they said in one of their first posts tha man coverage is improved so that slants will not be the best passing play in the game. i don't know everyone's problem wih it, it is easy to stop.

  • peter

    when is E3?

  • peter

    when is E3?

  • Mike

    June 2nd-3rd IIRC

  • Mike

    June 2nd-3rd IIRC

  • Quan

    If you got a Wii, just stick with Madden NFL 09 or 08 buddy. Trust me…. Unless you want a fake NFL Blitz game. EA has a kiddy Madden 10 Wii.

  • Quan

    If you got a Wii, just stick with Madden NFL 09 or 08 buddy. Trust me…. Unless you want a fake NFL Blitz game. EA has a kiddy Madden 10 Wii.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/The_King_Wilmes The_King_Wilmes

    Anyone know when Madden 10 Demo is? Or the NCAA 10 Demo?

    Thanks for all your help

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Both will probably be about two weeks before release of the games.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/The_King_Wilmes The_King_Wilmes

    Anyone know when Madden 10 Demo is? Or the NCAA 10 Demo?

    Thanks for all your help

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Both will probably be about two weeks before release of the games.

  • The MADman

    Even with your further explanation I still hate the idea of button mashing for a fumble even if it only happens once a game. I usually win such battles but understand that this is completely unfair and this likely gives some players and instant advantage for something that is not really a skill.

    Why turn a chess match into a thumb war?

    Besides that though I have been very impressed by the information released on this year's Madden and it otherwise looks wonderful.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Definitely understand that feeling. Im not a huge fan of it either. But I'm not sure if there is a better way to represent the scrum.

  • The MADman

    Even with your further explanation I still hate the idea of button mashing for a fumble even if it only happens once a game. I usually win such battles but understand that this is completely unfair and this likely gives some players and instant advantage for something that is not really a skill.

    Why turn a chess match into a thumb war?

    Besides that though I have been very impressed by the information released on this year's Madden and it otherwise looks wonderful.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Definitely understand that feeling. Im not a huge fan of it either. But I'm not sure if there is a better way to represent the scrum.

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