Early Madden 10 Preview

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Posted April 29th, 2009 at 8:42 am

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On Monday I wrote about NCAA Football 10 coming out of the EA Sports Season Preview Event. While that game showcased features, Madden NFL 10 instead put technical improvements on display.

By now everyone has read about the Pro-Tak technology that allows for up to nine man gang tackles, “fight for the fumble”, pushing the ball carrier, and the formation of a real pocket. Pro-Tak is providing far more than just a small improvement to the tackling animations. It really has a huge affect on everything that will happen on the field and how immersive an experience the game will provide.

In the demonstration lead designer Ian Cummings attempted to show off much of what the technology has allowed for this year. In what could be a good sign it took numerous attempts to see things like a fumble pile-up or large gang tackle. The build was of the Super Bowl rematch and maybe a back like Brandon Jacobs would’ve been more appropriate for some of these animations. Willie Parker dragging defenders isn’t all that realistic or as likely to pull that off in the game. Still it was great to see the players jump on and attempt to affect the play.

It is another benefit of the procedural awareness as well. You’d get offensive players on one side and the defensive players pushing back. Depending on strength and numbers the running back could be sent back (even could result in a whistle to end the play without ever going down) or the pile may push forward gaining crucial yards. You can even go up and hit stick the pile. Interesting factoid: Ben Roethlisberger is the only QB in the game who will attempt to push a pile.

When the ball is loose and multiple players are around it they may jump on the ball which starts the “fight for the fumble” cut scene. This becomes a button mashing game, however instead of just being one button they switch it up throughout the “fight”. After some time the ref comes in, pulls the players off, and signals who has possession. It is an intense cut scene to watch. One thing I tried to make clear is the frustration that would be had if a fumble is obviously recovered but then the “fight for the fumble” happens and the ball changes possession. It was encouraging to hear they are working to make sure that will not occur. The hope is to tune the “fight for the fumble” so that it only happens about once per game. It is an exciting moment, and if it happened more than that not only would it get frustrating but it would lose that appeal.

One of the goals this year was to slim the game down. A new streamlined menu system is one of the first things that will be noticed. They’re attempting to keep the gameplay screen as clean and simplified as possible. The play selection has gone back to a single bar of three plays with no window style presentation. I hope they will have a way to change personnel, view stats, and watch replays without pausing the game though. That wasn’t evident in the build we saw. Also while weapons remain but the icons won’t be visible on field.

Controls wise they have pulled that display off the screen though it is optional and can be put back up. Defensive line moves now use the right stick instead of the bumpers which should make for a much more natural feel. A new addition is the QB Avoidance Stick. In the pocket the controller will rumble when pressure is coming. By hitting the right analog stick the QB will make a quick move. Push up and he’ll step up in the pocket, right to shift right, and left to shift left. From what I saw the QB was usually able to execute the move successfully however it doesn’t mean that there will be another couple comfortable seconds. In many cases the QB bought a little time but then got hit as he was throwing. This is another really nice improvement seeing the QB get the ball off but the throw being affected adversely by the hit.

When I attempted to describe my feeling towards the games coming out of the event it was that NCAA Football 10 was exciting while Madden 10 was impressive. That was just the nature of what they had to show given their different points in the development cycle. Much is still to be revealed for both games. It is only a little over a month until E3 and that is shaping up to be a huge event for the EA Sports titles.

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  • 28uknowit

    Vid here on ign shows the play calling screen…I hate it myself I liked the old one hope u can switch or something.

    http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14270629/madde

  • 28uknowit

    There is some other vids to up on ign.

  • 28uknowit

    Vid here on ign shows the play calling screen…I hate it myself I liked the old one hope u can switch or something.

    http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14270629/madde

  • 28uknowit

    There is some other vids to up on ign.

  • Josh

    Ok Pasta so NCAA "exciting" & Madden "impressive"? Now to me exciting sounds a lot better than impressive. With all the great additions to Madden this year I would've thought it would've been the other way around. Are you just saying that because of NCAA's online dynasty & team builder features? To me Madden looks to be leaps and bounds better than NCAA this year. I wouldn't have said that last year.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Mostly just based on what they showed. Features for NCAA, Teambuilder in particular. And technical improvements to Madden like the Pro-Tak. For me its easier to get wrapped up in Teambuilder than it is to be pumped for tackling animations. Thats all that means.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

        Word…Im all about teambuilder. They already have me slaving over logos and everything.

  • Josh

    Ok Pasta so NCAA "exciting" & Madden "impressive"? Now to me exciting sounds a lot better than impressive. With all the great additions to Madden this year I would've thought it would've been the other way around. Are you just saying that because of NCAA's online dynasty & team builder features? To me Madden looks to be leaps and bounds better than NCAA this year. I wouldn't have said that last year.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Mostly just based on what they showed. Features for NCAA, Teambuilder in particular. And technical improvements to Madden like the Pro-Tak. For me its easier to get wrapped up in Teambuilder than it is to be pumped for tackling animations. Thats all that means.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

        Word…Im all about teambuilder. They already have me slaving over logos and everything.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

    Sounds like this could be the best Madden yet. As long as these changes in gameplay don't break it and add a whole new slew of problems, I think what we are hearing is encouraging. Still very early, though. But at least they have there minds in the right direction.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

    Sounds like this could be the best Madden yet. As long as these changes in gameplay don't break it and add a whole new slew of problems, I think what we are hearing is encouraging. Still very early, though. But at least they have there minds in the right direction.

  • super-fan

    ok so how is it going to look on PS3??? does any1 know?? i never see video for madden on the ps3,why??

    • 28AD u know it

      Well Madden is bigger on xbox that's pretty much y.

  • super-fan

    ok so how is it going to look on PS3??? does any1 know?? i never see video for madden on the ps3,why??

    • 28AD u know it

      Well Madden is bigger on xbox that's pretty much y.

  • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

    no offense to Playstation 3, but the Xbox 360 is the most popular game system other than the wii and lets face it, if it's not a Nintendo exclusive, no company in their right mind would advertise their product on the Wii.

  • Bl4ziNbuLLd0G

    no offense to Playstation 3, but the Xbox 360 is the most popular game system other than the wii and lets face it, if it's not a Nintendo exclusive, no company in their right mind would advertise their product on the Wii.

  • Ty

    This just keeps getting better and better

  • BoV1c3

    i think this is the game announcement on your website pasta that ive seen with no oppositions to the game whatsover..must mean EA really has listened which makes me feel better about it.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Well that is true. But also you have to understand that I didn't actually play the game and we only got a demonstration. With some of this stuff I think you really have to play it and get a feel for it before determining if its a success or not.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

        Do you think that gameplay from late night was real with the QB getting carted off the field. Haven't sen nothing like that since Madden of the Sega Genesis.

  • BoV1c3

    i think this is the game announcement on your website pasta that ive seen with no oppositions to the game whatsover..must mean EA really has listened which makes me feel better about it.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Well that is true. But also you have to understand that I didn't actually play the game and we only got a demonstration. With some of this stuff I think you really have to play it and get a feel for it before determining if its a success or not.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

        Do you think that gameplay from late night was real with the QB getting carted off the field. Haven't sen nothing like that since Madden of the Sega Genesis.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TXlongHORNS91 Ty

    This just keeps getting better and better

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ramboner Ramboner

    NICE!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ramboner Ramboner

    NICE!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Amani Amani

    For many of us it is all about Franchise and Online Franchise. I am waiting for details on this because there is a lot of improvements to be made.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Amani Amani

    For many of us it is all about Franchise and Online Franchise. I am waiting for details on this because there is a lot of improvements to be made.

  • eaglesfan

    with the way the right stick moves the d-line, and the "QB Avoidance" with the right stick is exactly what was in espn nfl 2k5… if only espn could still make games…

  • eaglesfan

    with the way the right stick moves the d-line, and the "QB Avoidance" with the right stick is exactly what was in espn nfl 2k5… if only espn could still make games…

  • Skinsfan

    This sounds awesome. Can't wait for it!!!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

    alright i took a look at the videos on IGN with ian cummings showing off some new features and i like what i see, they change the play selection to back to the 06, 05, etc, with the 3 play call, the presentation definitely looks better i think they are shooting for a NBC type look where the score is at the bottom, referees are back and are interactable which means you can crash into them, everything just looks good, their new Pro-Tak system just gives them more freedom well a little. All in all i like where EA is headed

  • Zack

    what is E3?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

      its basically a Expo to show off future video game, entertainment products, so madden, nba live, ncaa 10 and so forth and any other game you can think of at this expo.

  • Skinsfan

    This sounds awesome. Can't wait for it!!!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

    alright i took a look at the videos on IGN with ian cummings showing off some new features and i like what i see, they change the play selection to back to the 06, 05, etc, with the 3 play call, the presentation definitely looks better i think they are shooting for a NBC type look where the score is at the bottom, referees are back and are interactable which means you can crash into them, everything just looks good, their new Pro-Tak system just gives them more freedom well a little. All in all i like where EA is headed

  • Zack

    what is E3?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

      its basically a Expo to show off future video game, entertainment products, so madden, nba live, ncaa 10 and so forth and any other game you can think of at this expo.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

    not just EA but many other game developers its shown on G4 tv every year.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/packfan123 packfan123

    not just EA but many other game developers its shown on G4 tv every year.

  • Badgerboy 21

    For the love of god does anyone know if we are actually gunna get some atmosphere in this years game or will the crowd sound like a duke football game no matter in the playoffs or reg season?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      They were showing the Super Bowl, and the environment we were in wasn't great to get a feel for the atmosphere of the game. To me without a homefield advantage it won't ever be really good. I didn't get the sense they've upgraded much in game atmosphere from what I saw.

      • Badgerboy 21

        Thats hugely dissapointing to me, i liked last years game but it just felt boring compared to college cuz of the home field advantage.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

        That was one of the things I most looking forward to when playing offline playing the Super Bowl and possibly winning it all. Its just like NCAA in terms of the atmosphere not grabbing you and bringing you in.

        • 28uknowit

          At least NCAA as the homefield advantage tho. Wish Madden would get that

  • Badgerboy 21

    For the love of god does anyone know if we are actually gunna get some atmosphere in this years game or will the crowd sound like a duke football game no matter in the playoffs or reg season?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      They were showing the Super Bowl, and the environment we were in wasn't great to get a feel for the atmosphere of the game. To me without a homefield advantage it won't ever be really good. I didn't get the sense they've upgraded much in game atmosphere from what I saw.

      • Badgerboy 21

        Thats hugely dissapointing to me, i liked last years game but it just felt boring compared to college cuz of the home field advantage.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

        That was one of the things I most looking forward to when playing offline playing the Super Bowl and possibly winning it all. Its just like NCAA in terms of the atmosphere not grabbing you and bringing you in.

        • 28uknowit

          At least NCAA as the homefield advantage tho. Wish Madden would get that

  • http://www.udubsports.com/ tescalumni2000

    Does NCAA have the new group tackling animations? That would really suck if it doesn't, I might actually have to buy Madden this year.

  • http://www.udubsports.com tescalumni2000

    Does NCAA have the new group tackling animations? That would really suck if it doesn't, I might actually have to buy Madden this year.

  • COLTS!!!!!STEELERS

    all u ppl that have been wondering about franchise mode ign posted a preview and they said that EA said there is going to be some new additions. Did not say what they are yet tho.

  • COLTS!!!!!STEELERS

    all u ppl that have been wondering about franchise mode ign posted a preview and they said that EA said there is going to be some new additions. Did not say what they are yet tho.

  • Droopy34

    i will not succumb to the EA sports hype machine anymore.Of course all these things sounds cool,but i'll wait till the game comes out and play it before i get all excited.and wait till the glitchers find all the crazy bugs and make online unplayable……we always "hoping" with Madden……..i want results for a change.

  • Droopy34

    i will not succumb to the EA sports hype machine anymore.Of course all these things sounds cool,but i'll wait till the game comes out and play it before i get all excited.and wait till the glitchers find all the crazy bugs and make online unplayable……we always "hoping" with Madden……..i want results for a change.

  • Zach

    When hes says NCAA football was exciting I hope he dosen't mean just Teambuilder, becaues I'm not very excitied about that.

  • Zach

    When hes says NCAA football was exciting I hope he dosen't mean just Teambuilder, becaues I'm not very excitied about that.

  • Ty

    This just keeps getting better and better

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TXlongHORNS91 Ty

    This just keeps getting better and better

  • Lil Wayne

    i have a feeling some people will be let down once this is released

  • Lil Wayne

    i have a feeling some people will be let down once this is released

  • Some Rapper

    DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE

  • Some Rapper

    DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/badboy49er badboy49er

    Everything i have read so far sounds good. My only gripe would be getting rid of the play call screen as it was. Being able to call plays, change personnel, view stats, and view replays all in one place was the best IMO.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/badboy49er badboy49er

    Everything i have read so far sounds good. My only gripe would be getting rid of the play call screen as it was. Being able to call plays, change personnel, view stats, and view replays all in one place was the best IMO.

  • GJ(Cowboys)

    hey pasta, does the fight for the fumble take away from the experience and make the game feel more arcade like, or is it realistic.

  • GJ(Cowboys)

    hey pasta, does the fight for the fumble take away from the experience and make the game feel more arcade like, or is it realistic.

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