NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path

by pastapadre
Posted June 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am

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Player names and how they are dealt with in EA Sports NCAA Football series has always been a sensitive subject. While there has been discussion over the years to reach agreement with the NCAA to allow names in that has not come to fruition. The last couple versions of NCAA Football have brought about some new community based features such as the EA Locker for roster sharing and Teambuilder. The Sam Keller lawsuit may or may not directly affect what happens with NCAA Football but it does seem to coincide with a move towards a more generic-rostered game. This especially considering the rosters found on Teambuilder that apparently are the final rosters shipping with the game.

While at E3 I asked whether the rosters from Teambuilder were final and was told that they were. Not realizing what a disaster they were at the time that was the answer I expected to get. So when I got back and tweeted about them being final I was surprised at the community reaction which was of frustration and disbelief. These rosters are hugely flawed with instances of teams that have no freshman or have players still on the team that graduated within the last few years. While I attempted to get double-verification that the rosters were final there has been no update on that which further solidifies the likelihood that they are.

It may be purely coincidental that this comes shortly after the Keller lawsuit was filed. However regardless of what happens with that it looks as though less effort is being put into making rosters accurate and more is being placed on the community to do it on their own.

The NCAA license however is still a few years away from expiring. Come that time though could EA be planning on letting the exclusive go and then pick up the license for less money? If they have to go more generic with the players that would surely affect sales and the value of that license. They may be thinking that no one else will be able to compete in this market by introducing another college game anyway. That is what happened with NCAA Basketball where 2K dropped out because they couldn’t afford the license leaving EA in a position to have the only college basketball game without having to pay the cost of tying it up exclusively. It would be a huge undertaking to create a new college football game from scratch. The question around how closely rosters can replicate real life will continue to have a big affect on these college games and it is something to continue monitoring.

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Bumble14

I miss NCAA 04 more and more every day.
Bumble14

I miss NCAA 04 more and more every day.
Scott

Well, generic rosters wouldn't be that big of a deal. For example, want Tim Tebow? EA can have a player at QB for Florida with similar attributes, but a different number. Done.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

You think that's all they would do though? It might be seen as too close to reality to have a scrambling, white, senior QB who is top rated in the nation.

Hawkeye4077

Changing the number is enough to drive the die hard roster nuts crazy, but why stop there? Make the UF QB a scrambling, black guy with similar attributes to Tebow. Is it attributes or resemblance that's the issue here?
http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

exactly they would have to make everyone "equal" in attributes cause of sam kellers ignorant ass

Scott

Well, generic rosters wouldn't be that big of a deal. For example, want Tim Tebow? EA can have a player at QB for Florida with similar attributes, but a different number. Done.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

You think that's all they would do though? It might be seen as too close to reality to have a scrambling, white, senior QB who is top rated in the nation.

Hawkeye4077

Changing the number is enough to drive the die hard roster nuts crazy, but why stop there? Make the UF QB a scrambling, black guy with similar attributes to Tebow. Is it attributes or resemblance that's the issue here?
http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

exactly they would have to make everyone "equal" in attributes cause of sam kellers ignorant ass

JohnZapp

Pasta have you checked out custom conferences at E3? Because that's wat im hyped up for now so can do stuff to my teambuilder teams.
JohnZapp

Pasta have you checked out custom conferences at E3? Because that's wat im hyped up for now so can do stuff to my teambuilder teams.
http://intensedebate.com/people/SigmaAG SigmaAG

Whoa, that's a game changer for me. I wasn't planning on buying NCAA 10 for various reasons but that might be enough to avoid it altogether. I hope they realize that a large percentage of their users play because of the accurate representation of their schools..

Oh well. Hopefully the community can rectify the situation with the EA Locker Room =[

http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

Interestingly enough…I think NCAA 10 is trying to get not only die-hard fans of big college programs to buy the game, but also the small school college football fan.

Being able to create close representations of any school you want – with their actual logo via Team Builder – makes it more appealing to me, a college football fan who went to a Div. III school. While I do cheer for a big program, I didn't go to that school and would rather play with my alma mater, using their real logo…exactly what Team Builder allows.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

The Team Builder was actually addicting. I created my high school team from back in the day except I designed the uniforms the way I think they should have looked. I felt the initial reaction to Team Builder was a tad negative but it is damn fun.

I will create several more teams before the game releases. I also agree that it will allow people to create Appalachian State, Delaware, etc. and put those schools in the game. Bring on Mt. Union…..I think people who try this will find it fun.

I do have a request……Does anyone have a GIF of the Minnesota Vikings horn logo without the white background? I found one but when I tried to paint the background it wouldn't allow any other color other than yellow….

Thanks in advance….

http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

I agree…I hopped on Team Builder the first day it went live and created my alma mater, the Univ. of Wisconsin – Stevens Point. It was great to be able to see their actual logos used, not some generic one that EA supplies.
http://intensedebate.com/people/EmJaySena EmJaySena

http://tinyurl.com/mhjb3q

There ya go. Just save that and upload it to teambuilder. That should work for ya.

http://intensedebate.com/people/SigmaAG SigmaAG

Whoa, that's a game changer for me. I wasn't planning on buying NCAA 10 for various reasons but that might be enough to avoid it altogether. I hope they realize that a large percentage of their users play because of the accurate representation of their schools..

Oh well. Hopefully the community can rectify the situation with the EA Locker Room =[

http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

Interestingly enough…I think NCAA 10 is trying to get not only die-hard fans of big college programs to buy the game, but also the small school college football fan.

Being able to create close representations of any school you want – with their actual logo via Team Builder – makes it more appealing to me, a college football fan who went to a Div. III school. While I do cheer for a big program, I didn't go to that school and would rather play with my alma mater, using their real logo…exactly what Team Builder allows.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

The Team Builder was actually addicting. I created my high school team from back in the day except I designed the uniforms the way I think they should have looked. I felt the initial reaction to Team Builder was a tad negative but it is damn fun.

I will create several more teams before the game releases. I also agree that it will allow people to create Appalachian State, Delaware, etc. and put those schools in the game. Bring on Mt. Union…..I think people who try this will find it fun.

I do have a request……Does anyone have a GIF of the Minnesota Vikings horn logo without the white background? I found one but when I tried to paint the background it wouldn't allow any other color other than yellow….

Thanks in advance….

http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

I agree…I hopped on Team Builder the first day it went live and created my alma mater, the Univ. of Wisconsin – Stevens Point. It was great to be able to see their actual logos used, not some generic one that EA supplies.
http://intensedebate.com/people/EmJaySena EmJaySena

http://tinyurl.com/mhjb3q

There ya go. Just save that and upload it to teambuilder. That should work for ya.

http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

While I understand the frustration that the lack of current default rosters may create, it doesn't bother me as much as I would have thought.

Since in-game players stay on my team for 4 years (5 years, if redshirted), the default rosters provided with the game are essentially obsolete after the first year in Dynasty mode. New recurits come in, seniors graduate and underclassmen enter the draft.

And if you want real rosters, there is always the option of editing teams for yourself, using EA Locker and creating players and teams with Team Builder.

It's not like MLB 2K9, where 2K capped the number of players you could edit and prevented you from editing players' batting stances and pitching motions. If EA removes the ability to edit certain things like 2K did, that's when I will be upset.
http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

While I understand the frustration that the lack of current default rosters may create, it doesn't bother me as much as I would have thought.

Since in-game players stay on my team for 4 years (5 years, if redshirted), the default rosters provided with the game are essentially obsolete after the first year in Dynasty mode. New recurits come in, seniors graduate and underclassmen enter the draft.

And if you want real rosters, there is always the option of editing teams for yourself, using EA Locker and creating players and teams with Team Builder.

It's not like MLB 2K9, where 2K capped the number of players you could edit and prevented you from editing players' batting stances and pitching motions. If EA removes the ability to edit certain things like 2K did, that's when I will be upset.
Badgerboy 21

If everything is unnaccurate and no ea locker to fix it, then mark my words, i will not buy this game! And ive had every title since 2000. If it has something to do with sam keller, then he needs to be punched. Not totally harmed or anything, just punched for being a doushbag.
Badgerboy 21

If everything is unnaccurate and no ea locker to fix it, then mark my words, i will not buy this game! And ive had every title since 2000. If it has something to do with sam keller, then he needs to be punched. Not totally harmed or anything, just punched for being a doushbag.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

While I understand the frustration that the lack of current default rosters may create, it doesn't bother me as much as I would have thought.

Since in-game players stay on my team for 4 years (5 years, if redshirted), the default rosters provided with the game are essentially obsolete after the first year in Dynasty mode. New recurits come in, seniors graduate and underclassmen enter the draft.

And if you want real rosters, there is always the option of editing teams for yourself, using EA Locker and creating players and teams with Team Builder.

It's not like MLB 2K9, where 2K capped the number of players you could edit and prevented you from editing players' skin color, batting stances and pitching motions. If EA removes the ability to edit certain things like 2K did, that's when I will be upset.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Agreed…..I just Pasta has a roster file again this year. I am not paying for rosters….
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Agreed…..I just hope Pasta has a roster file again this year. I am not paying for rosters….

http://www.twitter.com/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

Why would you ever pay for rosters? I've been getting them since people were doing them on PS2, maybe even PS1 (first DT Lidner, now others) and I've never paid. Anyone asking you to pay for rosters is a scammer. They usually just steal someone else's rosters, and charge you for them. If you're paying for rosters, you're getting screwed.

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

While I understand the frustration that the lack of current default rosters may create, it doesn't bother me as much as I would have thought.

Since in-game players stay on my team for 4 years (5 years, if redshirted), the default rosters provided with the game are essentially obsolete after the first year in Dynasty mode. New recurits come in, seniors graduate and underclassmen enter the draft.

And if you want real rosters, there is always the option of editing teams for yourself, using EA Locker and creating players and teams with Team Builder.

It's not like MLB 2K9, where 2K capped the number of players you could edit and prevented you from editing players' skin color, batting stances and pitching motions. If EA removes the ability to edit certain things like 2K did, that's when I will be upset.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Agreed…..I just Pasta has a roster file again this year. I am not paying for rosters….
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Agreed…..I just hope Pasta has a roster file again this year. I am not paying for rosters….

http://www.twitter.com/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

Why would you ever pay for rosters? I've been getting them since people were doing them on PS2, maybe even PS1 (first DT Lidner, now others) and I've never paid. Anyone asking you to pay for rosters is a scammer. They usually just steal someone else's rosters, and charge you for them. If you're paying for rosters, you're getting screwed.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

Wow, a big blow to the gaming community as a whole because of people wanting more and more money. The path some people take to get money is one reason why society and humanity as a whole is going to hell.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

Wow, a big blow to the gaming community as a whole because of people wanting more and more money. The path some people take to get money is one reason why society and humanity as a whole is going to hell.
http://www.gamerosters.com/ Brian Kaldenberg

No way those are the final rosters "shipping with the game". They are the final rosters associated with TeamBuilder.

Pasta your really think EA Sports is scared by Sam Keller? Some people need to understand how the real world and business works, yes even if you run a video game site.

If EA Sports were to alter anything they have always previously done because of Sam Keller's suit, that is like them admitting fault. Big companies with internal counsel aren't as stupid as some video game bloggers make them out to be. wow…..

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

I dont think its Sam Keller necessarily, but I think they've been planning for something like this to happen for a while. Or at least so that they would be prepared. Which is why we've seen EA Locker and Teambuilder come in.

http://www.gamerosters.com/ Brian Kaldenberg

I disagree, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I think EA Locker was created just to make it even easier for gamers to share rosters (make it easier to share real names rosters because EA knows that is something that 25%+ of their customer base must have). EA locker is something that I think pushes the envelope more than correct player attributes. EA Locker facilitates the sharing of names that EA can't put in the game themselves, and that could easily be proven as EA's motive by Sam Keller's attorney.

I think if anything gets axed in the future it will be EA Locker. No way do I think EA starts shipping games with incorrect player ratings, positions, numbers, etc.

I'd bet less than 25% off all NCAA Football gamers even play with rosters. 75% of NCAA Football gamers rely on just numbers, but they also rely on accurate players and player ratings associated with those numbers.

If EA Sports starts shipping and then forcing 75% of their customer base to start getting online and downloading files the future sales of the NCAA Football series will take a grotesque hit.

I think everyone is getting their panties in a bunch. Sam Keller is going to lose. If the NCAA and EA lose this case, the buck won't just stop with video games. We are talking billions of dollars. Too much money on the line. I don't think court cases are always "fair". And even is Keller makes a great case, eventually people in power will get their way. And I hope they do. I love NCAA Football!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

How can adding the ability to edit rosters be something that would be taken out? All EA Locker provides is the ability to share rosters. EA isn't providing the rosters so they haven't violated anything.

If EA Locker is removed due to a court's ruling, then we better prepare ourselves for sharing roster files through the PC via memory stick, etc.

I don't see EA Locker going anywhere.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

How can adding the ability to edit rosters be something that would be taken out? All EA Locker provides is the ability to share rosters. EA isn't providing the rosters so they haven't violated anything.

If EA Locker is removed due to a court's ruling, then we better prepare ourselves for sharing roster files through the PC via memory stick, etc.

I agree with the jersey numbers but ratings are subjective. Hell, most players think their ratings are too low any way….If Sam Keller were to go to court and say, "Yes, my arm strength is a 74", I will poop myself…

I don't see EA Locker going anywhere.
Anon

Everyone knows your just talking about EA Locker because you want it gone to boost your business. You want to continue to con people into buying your ripped roster file. Without EA locker, you'd probably get more sales than the other half wits that already buy your file when they could get it for free.

Nice try, douchebag. And oh yeah, if anyone should be intimidated by Keller it should be you. YOU'RE the one profiting off of the names of college athletes, EA isn't doing anything near what you're doing.

Hey, anyone know Keller? Alert him of this douche's "business".
Anon

Deleted my comment already? Well, let me post it again.

Everyone knows your just talking about EA Locker because you want it gone to boost your business. You want to continue to con people into buying your ripped roster file. Without EA locker, you'd probably get more sales than the other half wits that already buy your file when they could get it for free.

And besides, if anyone should be afraid of this lawsuit it's you, Doucheberg. You're the one making money off of the players' names. I invite anyone who knows an athlete that Doucheberg has made money off of, to take a Keller'esque approach to his 'business'.
Fluff E Bunny

I simply can't imagine why a guy who makes money off selling roster files would think that EA would get rid of the EA Locker feature that effectively neuters his money making scheme. Truly, it is a mystery.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Lydeck Lydeck

It's because he's a fucking douchebag.

I'd love to see someone go after him. Someone SHOULD alert a player or two to the stuff he's doing. Maybe even the NCAA, too. It'd be hilarious.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Lydeck Lydeck

Dude, you're a piece of work.

Everyone knows your just talking about EA Locker because you want it gone to boost your so-called "business". You want to continue to con people into buying your ripped roster file, and make money off of it. Without EA locker, you'd probably get more sales than just the half wits that already buy your file when they could get it for free.

And besides, if anyone should be afraid of this lawsuit it's you, Doucheberg. You're the one making money off of the players' names. What you're doing is much worse than anything EA is doing.

I have half the mind to go and try to get some players to go after your shitty gamerosters site for making money DIRECTLY off of their names.
http://www.twitter.com/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

Sam Keller is and has always been a big, whiny baby who cries when he doesn't get his way. It was like that at ASU (and he transferred), and he was the same way at Nebraska. This whole lawsuit is basically him trying to recover the money he thinks he should be making in the NFL.

Amen Ra

They might be switching rosters just to change it up dude. Maybe it ain't Sam Keller but something else homey

http://www.twitter.com/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

Anon and Lydeck – As far as I know, PP doesn't sell rosters, and never has. I've gotten his rosters for free. If you paid for them, you guys are the idiots.

Headstomper

Pretty sure they were talking about Brian Kaldenberg , not Pasta there big guy…glad you pay attention so well

http://intensedebate.com/people/Koach_Vonner Koach_Vonner

Pasta's rosters are always free. But Damn KALDENBERG you're getting ripped up on here man!! LOL!!! Oh well you deserve it. You shouldn't be charging for rosters man!!

MAKE ROSTERS FREE!!!

Kaldenberg Sucks

Jackasses like Brian Kaldenberg will ruin the roster setup more than Sam Keller.

http://www.gamerosters.com Brian Kaldenberg

No way those are the final rosters "shipping with the game". They are the final rosters associated with TeamBuilder.

Pasta your really think EA Sports is scared by Sam Keller? Some people need to understand how the real world and business works, yes even if you run a video game site.

If EA Sports were to alter anything they have always previously done because of Sam Keller's suit, that is like them admitting fault. Big companies with internal counsel aren't as stupid as some video game bloggers make them out to be. wow…..

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

I dont think its Sam Keller necessarily, but I think they've been planning for something like this to happen for a while. Or at least so that they would be prepared. Which is why we've seen EA Locker and Teambuilder come in.

http://www.gamerosters.com Brian Kaldenberg

I disagree, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

I think EA Locker was created just to make it even easier for gamers to share rosters (make it easier to share real names rosters because EA knows that is something that 25%+ of their customer base must have). EA locker is something that I think pushes the envelope more than correct player attributes. EA Locker facilitates the sharing of names that EA can't put in the game themselves, and that could easily be proven as EA's motive by Sam Keller's attorney.

I think if anything gets axed in the future it will be EA Locker. No way do I think EA starts shipping games with incorrect player ratings, positions, numbers, etc.

I'd bet less than 25% off all NCAA Football gamers even play with rosters. 75% of NCAA Football gamers rely on just numbers, but they also rely on accurate players and player ratings associated with those numbers.

If EA Sports starts shipping and then forcing 75% of their customer base to start getting online and downloading files the future sales of the NCAA Football series will take a grotesque hit.

I think everyone is getting their panties in a bunch. Sam Keller is going to lose. If the NCAA and EA lose this case, the buck won't just stop with video games. We are talking billions of dollars. Too much money on the line. I don't think court cases are always "fair". And even is Keller makes a great case, eventually people in power will get their way. And I hope they do. I love NCAA Football!

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

How can adding the ability to edit rosters be something that would be taken out? All EA Locker provides is the ability to share rosters. EA isn't providing the rosters so they haven't violated anything.

If EA Locker is removed due to a court's ruling, then we better prepare ourselves for sharing roster files through the PC via memory stick, etc.

I don't see EA Locker going anywhere.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

How can adding the ability to edit rosters be something that would be taken out? All EA Locker provides is the ability to share rosters. EA isn't providing the rosters so they haven't violated anything.

If EA Locker is removed due to a court's ruling, then we better prepare ourselves for sharing roster files through the PC via memory stick, etc.

I agree with the jersey numbers but ratings are subjective. Hell, most players think their ratings are too low any way….If Sam Keller were to go to court and say, "Yes, my arm strength is a 74", I will poop myself…

I don't see EA Locker going anywhere.
Anon

Everyone knows your just talking about EA Locker because you want it gone to boost your business. You want to continue to con people into buying your ripped roster file. Without EA locker, you'd probably get more sales than the other half wits that already buy your file when they could get it for free.

Nice try, douchebag. And oh yeah, if anyone should be intimidated by Keller it should be you. YOU'RE the one profiting off of the names of college athletes, EA isn't doing anything near what you're doing.

Hey, anyone know Keller? Alert him of this douche's "business".
Anon

Deleted my comment already? Well, let me post it again.

Everyone knows your just talking about EA Locker because you want it gone to boost your business. You want to continue to con people into buying your ripped roster file. Without EA locker, you'd probably get more sales than the other half wits that already buy your file when they could get it for free.

And besides, if anyone should be afraid of this lawsuit it's you, Doucheberg. You're the one making money off of the players' names. I invite anyone who knows an athlete that Doucheberg has made money off of, to take a Keller'esque approach to his 'business'.
Fluff E Bunny

I simply can't imagine why a guy who makes money off selling roster files would think that EA would get rid of the EA Locker feature that effectively neuters his money making scheme. Truly, it is a mystery.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Lydeck Lydeck

It's because he's a fucking douchebag.

I'd love to see someone go after him. Someone SHOULD alert a player or two to the stuff he's doing. Maybe even the NCAA, too. It'd be hilarious.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Lydeck Lydeck

Dude, you're a piece of work.

Everyone knows your just talking about EA Locker because you want it gone to boost your so-called "business". You want to continue to con people into buying your ripped roster file, and make money off of it. Without EA locker, you'd probably get more sales than just the half wits that already buy your file when they could get it for free.

And besides, if anyone should be afraid of this lawsuit it's you, Doucheberg. You're the one making money off of the players' names. What you're doing is much worse than anything EA is doing.

I have half the mind to go and try to get some players to go after your shitty gamerosters site for making money DIRECTLY off of their names.
http://www.twitter.com/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

Sam Keller is and has always been a big, whiny baby who cries when he doesn't get his way. It was like that at ASU (and he transferred), and he was the same way at Nebraska. This whole lawsuit is basically him trying to recover the money he thinks he should be making in the NFL.

Amen Ra

They might be switching rosters just to change it up dude. Maybe it ain't Sam Keller but something else homey

http://www.twitter.com/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

Anon and Lydeck – As far as I know, PP doesn't sell rosters, and never has. I've gotten his rosters for free. If you paid for them, you guys are the idiots.

Headstomper

Pretty sure they were talking about Brian Kaldenberg , not Pasta there big guy…glad you pay attention so well

http://intensedebate.com/people/Koach_Vonner Koach_Vonner

Pasta's rosters are always free. But Damn KALDENBERG you're getting ripped up on here man!! LOL!!! Oh well you deserve it. You shouldn't be charging for rosters man!!

MAKE ROSTERS FREE!!!

Kaldenberg Sucks

Jackasses like Brian Kaldenberg will ruin the roster setup more than Sam Keller.

JohnZapp

Guys if you have xbox live or playstation online you can get rosters from the free rosters website but this definitely upsets me. hopefully next year ea will fix this if they get the license. But im totally still buying this with teambuilder so i can play them on dynasty.
JohnZapp

Guys if you have xbox live or playstation online you can get rosters from the free rosters website but this definitely upsets me. hopefully next year ea will fix this if they get the license. But im totally still buying this with teambuilder so i can play them on dynasty.
baumy300

Not a big deal as long as we can edit and share rosters. If they take away the edit and share features though, i am done with this series.

JohnZapp

I know rite!

baumy300

Not a big deal as long as we can edit and share rosters. If they take away the edit and share features though, i am done with this series.

JohnZapp

I know rite!

Raider Nation

It wouldn't be such a big deal if the NCAA crew wasn't bragging about their new roster guy and how excited they were about him only to get awful rosters.
Raider Nation

It wouldn't be such a big deal if the NCAA crew wasn't bragging about their new roster guy and how excited they were about him only to get awful rosters.
goober

where does team builder even have the rosters of the actually teams shipping with the game? I have looked and all I see are teams that people have created.
goober

where does team builder even have the rosters of the actually teams shipping with the game? I have looked and all I see are teams that people have created.
sdot

@ PASTA so far from wut u sed it seems like dis game is goin 2 be PRETTY WEAK

also @ n e 1 dat kno's I heard dat u can mix & match jersey combo's in madden my ? is

can u pic ur uniform in SStar mode cuz i couldn't last yr

Headstomper

hey, english MFer can you speak it? Thats the worst typing I've ever seen..your kids are going to be retarded….lol

sdot

@ PASTA so far from wut u sed it seems like dis game is goin 2 be PRETTY WEAK

also @ n e 1 dat kno's I heard dat u can mix & match jersey combo's in madden my ? is

can u pic ur uniform in SStar mode cuz i couldn't last yr

Headstomper

hey, english MFer can you speak it? Thats the worst typing I've ever seen..your kids are going to be retarded….lol

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Whether there are "generic" rosters or not, I will still buy NCAA Football. I am sure that there will be the ability to edit rosters. I agree with a previous post that if they change the number then there you go.

Rosters are not a game killer for me. EA has done a tremendous job with this franchise and hopefully they continue to progress.

Sam Keller is a joke. The guy couldn't cut it playing DI football at ASU or Nebraska so now he has to try and get money through other means….JOKE!!!!

Hawkeye4077

I don't see where he's benefiting financially from this. Seems to me he's just cock blocking.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Right. All he did was piss off a bunch of gamers. We all know what happened to Jack Kemp when he did the same.

http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

A++++++

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Whether there are "generic" rosters or not, I will still buy NCAA Football. I am sure that there will be the ability to edit rosters. I agree with a previous post that if they change the number then there you go.

Rosters are not a game killer for me. EA has done a tremendous job with this franchise and hopefully they continue to progress.

Sam Keller is a joke. The guy couldn't cut it playing DI football at ASU or Nebraska so now he has to try and get money through other means….JOKE!!!!

Hawkeye4077

I don't see where he's benefiting financially from this. Seems to me he's just cock blocking.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

Right. All he did was piss off a bunch of gamers. We all know what happened to Jack Kemp when he did the same.

http://intensedebate.com/people/rezluk Rezluk

A++++++

http://jheb1973.webs.com/ JHeb

I prefer NCAA over Madden due to the editing of rosters…If NCAA ever limits us or we're not able to edit rosters, this game would all but be dead to me. Madden would become #1 for me rather than #2.

Hawkeye4077

So let me get this straight…you prioritize a football game solely on the fact that you could edit rosters? I would think there would be other factors more important like, I don't know, the actual game?

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I agree. I remember playing games when I had to pretend what team I was using and what players were on the field. However, EA would not be forced to remove editing from the game.

I am going to make my third string QB Sam Keller, take a photo and send it to his ass….Sue me…

http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

LOL xD

http://jheb1973.webs.com JHeb

I prefer NCAA over Madden due to the editing of rosters…If NCAA ever limits us or we're not able to edit rosters, this game would all but be dead to me. Madden would become #1 for me rather than #2.

Hawkeye4077

So let me get this straight…you prioritize a football game solely on the fact that you could edit rosters? I would think there would be other factors more important like, I don't know, the actual game?

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I agree. I remember playing games when I had to pretend what team I was using and what players were on the field. However, EA would not be forced to remove editing from the game.

I am going to make my third string QB Sam Keller, take a photo and send it to his ass….Sue me…

http://intensedebate.com/people/Dre2778 Dre2778

LOL xD

Mike

I have bought NCAA ever since 2000 and I am not going to buy it for the first time this year. Madden seems like a much better game and the only thing they added to NCAA is Teambuilder which doesn't interest me much. I haven't bought madden since 2005 but I think I am going to this year because it seems like that has a lot more effort put in. And not being able to have authentic rosters really kills NCAA.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

The game has never had authentic rosters. Even if they don't have a player's number or hometown, they can be edited and rosters can be shared.

Oh, and you are missing the boat with Team Builder…It is sweet….You can try it on EASportsworld.com….

Boiler Up!

yeah creating your fake team called the Thunderbirds is really cool………NOT! Some of us actually would like to play with real teams and real players.

Mike

I have bought NCAA ever since 2000 and I am not going to buy it for the first time this year. Madden seems like a much better game and the only thing they added to NCAA is Teambuilder which doesn't interest me much. I haven't bought madden since 2005 but I think I am going to this year because it seems like that has a lot more effort put in. And not being able to have authentic rosters really kills NCAA.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

The game has never had authentic rosters. Even if they don't have a player's number or hometown, they can be edited and rosters can be shared.

Oh, and you are missing the boat with Team Builder…It is sweet….You can try it on EASportsworld.com….

Boiler Up!

yeah creating your fake team called the Thunderbirds is really cool………NOT! Some of us actually would like to play with real teams and real players.

Hawkeye4077

I honestly don't think that not having the actual college players represented in the game will make much of a difference. I can see some of the roster junkies having a problem with it, but outside of a few super star players and their respective team's best players, most people have no idea who these guys are anyway. I couldn't name you a single guy on Clemson or Wake Forest….I could go on and on.

Maybe I'm alone on this, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me if they go generic with the rosters. It could be fun to be able to build a team from scratch. If you go deep enough into dynasty, you're going to lose all the "real" players anyway once they graduate and then you'll be playing with a bunch of made up guys. Provided they put out a quality product, I'd still buy the game.

Boiler Up!

Well some of us actually do watch alot of college football and know alot of players. You are totally missing the point. EA is taking steps BACKWARDS!

Hawkeye4077

I honestly don't think that not having the actual college players represented in the game will make much of a difference. I can see some of the roster junkies having a problem with it, but outside of a few super star players and their respective team's best players, most people have no idea who these guys are anyway. I couldn't name you a single guy on Clemson or Wake Forest….I could go on and on.

Maybe I'm alone on this, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me if they go generic with the rosters. It could be fun to be able to build a team from scratch. If you go deep enough into dynasty, you're going to lose all the "real" players anyway once they graduate and then you'll be playing with a bunch of made up guys. Provided they put out a quality product, I'd still buy the game.

Boiler Up!

Well some of us actually do watch alot of college football and know alot of players. You are totally missing the point. EA is taking steps BACKWARDS!

Sam

so will the EA Locker be out too?
Sam

so will the EA Locker be out too?
Gmen world champs

Pasta are you getting a name roster this year- and Notre Dame's best defensive player Harrison Smith is completely missing Kerry Neal is gone and Offense is too high they have randon fullback who is a senior pastor is a SO thats stupid so it may be Shwaap but its a wrong number. Thats terrible. I thought they were going to do spread ratings like in madden

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I have no clue what your post reads. What?

Gmen world champs

ND is really messed up and i a sked pasta if he was uploading a named roster this year

bob

i think college football players should pay ea to have their likelyness in the game and not the other way around. …Yes I am Serious!
bob

i think college football players should pay ea to have their likelyness in the game and not the other way around. …Yes I am Serious!
Gmen world champs

Pasta are you getting a name roster this year- and Notre Dame's best defensive player Harrison Smith is completely missing Kerry Neal is gone and Offense is too high they have randon fullback who is a senior pastor is a SO thats stupid so it may be Shwaap but its a wrong number. Thats terrible. I thought they were going to do spread ratings like in madden

http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I have no clue what your post reads. What?

Gmen world champs

ND is really messed up and i a sked pasta if he was uploading a named roster this year

http://intensedebate.com/people/Jerkfacefave Jerkfacefave

I just started to like this game last year! Why must you always shatter my dreams Pasta!?!
http://intensedebate.com/people/Jerkfacefave Jerkfacefave

I just started to like this game last year! Why must you always shatter my dreams Pasta!?!
Thomas A. Anderson

As long as users will have the ability to edit players however they want, this isn't that big of a deal. I suspect that people will be more willing to pay other people or sites to edit the rosters for them, but as long as EA doesn't alter the editing functionality of the game, this won't matter.

If they DO, then this game is as good as dead.
Thomas A. Anderson

As long as users will have the ability to edit players however they want, this isn't that big of a deal. I suspect that people will be more willing to pay other people or sites to edit the rosters for them, but as long as EA doesn't alter the editing functionality of the game, this won't matter.

If they DO, then this game is as good as dead.
Hawkeye4077

There's currently a class action lawsuit in the works against EA regarding exclusive rights. Now the sudden interest in improving Madden at unprecedented levels is starting to make sense. I had a feeling that they weren't pouring in so much effort and most importantly money into revamping the game out of the kindness of their heart. It appears to be a preemptive move on EA's part in the event that their exclusivity rights with the NFL are ruled to be an illegal form of monopoly.

This would be great for football gamers. I've always been a Madden guy, but it's obvious how diminished the game has become ever since they took out the competition.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6211734.html?tag=lat…
Hawkeye4077

There's currently a class action lawsuit in the works against EA regarding exclusive rights. Now the sudden interest in improving Madden at unprecedented levels is starting to make sense. I had a feeling that they weren't pouring in so much effort and most importantly money into revamping the game out of the kindness of their heart. It appears to be a preemptive move on EA's part in the event that their exclusivity rights with the NFL are ruled to be an illegal form of monopoly.

This would be great for football gamers. I've always been a Madden guy, but it's obvious how diminished the game has become ever since they took out the competition.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6211734.html?tag=lat…
Josh

Wow this sucks. If this is the case then this will really be the last year I buy NCAA football. Thank God Madden finally has their act together. This sucks because I really love college football & not being able to have a game that represents acurate rosters is really going to ruin the experience for me.
Josh

Wow this sucks. If this is the case then this will really be the last year I buy NCAA football. Thank God Madden finally has their act together. This sucks because I really love college football & not being able to have a game that represents acurate rosters is really going to ruin the experience for me.