Early Madden 10 Online Franchise Impressions

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Posted August 13th, 2009 at 10:36 am

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Online Franchise was instantly my most anticipated feature as soon as it was announced at E3. Since then there has been some disappointing news on aspects of the mode that would be missing. Despite that it still has potential to be a lot of fun and is certainly much more advanced than an online league. With the servers for Online Franchise having gone live as well as the website having opened up we wanted to test out some of the options and see how it all works.

First lets recap some of the areas of the mode that already were known to be lacking. There is no salary cap so free agency is unregulated and there is no CPU trade logic. There is no preseason and there are no sliders to be adjusted. Unlike regular franchise mode there is no halftime show or Extra Point franchise show. These are all elements that EA was up front about missing, and hopefully because the mode is run server side improvements or additions could end up being made at any time. I don’t expect any of these things to make their way in this year with the exception of maybe the sliders.

So the first thing to do is either create the Online Franchise or join one. Franchises can be set to public but I suspect those will end up being a disaster. Invites can be sent out which makes it easy for people to accept, however it seems that the password for the league is still required to be entered even for those receiving an invite. I’m not sure why that is since now the password will have to be communicated independently when an invite from the Commish should be enough to grant entry.

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There are a lot of options that can be set for the games. The biggest let down of the mode for me so far is that there is no option for game speed. Right now online games are defaulted to “normal” speed which is not the same as the default offline “slow” that I have enjoyed so much. The games run faster online which has resulted in sloppier play. More sacks and more turnovers are the trend out of that. Not only am I disappointed that it is defaulted to that speed but really not pleased that they aren’t offering an option to change it up for Online Franchise. This is something that hopefully EA will take care of an soon since I already know it will be affecting the quality of the franchises.

The max users for a franchise is 32 but there are several other options for this. It is probably worth just setting it to 32 unless it is a public league that is trying to contain itself so it can go at a better pace and maybe even make it through a season. You can either start with the current rosters at the time or do a fantasy draft. Difficulty level is adjustable, quarter length can be changed as well as accelerated clock settings. Injuries, fatigue, and weather can all be turned off if so desired.

The other main setting has to do with trades. There are trades “On” where anyone can trade with any team including the CPU. Trades “off” where no trades can be completed. And trades “On-No CPU” where trading is only allowed between users. Since there is no CPU trade logic, the CPU will accept any offer. So that should be the setting only in cases where all league members can trust each other or work out offers that everyone agrees with.

The main franchise menu looks similar to the online menu and navigates in the same manner. You have the list of owners, team and league schedules, rosters and player management, and stats. The Options area is where the Commish can advance the week, send out invites, or make changes to league settings.

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At first I thought this would be a major issue but there is a simple way around it. Trades can not be completed before Week 1 games. They can be offered but nothing can be processed until Week 2. For franchises where people are negotiating and completing trades prior to starting, the way around this involves free agency. Simply release the players being traded away and then sign the ones being acquired. They are then eligible to play in the Week 1 games.

There is a one hour timer between advancing weeks. If the games are actually being played this won’t be bothersome, but for people who may have been interested in simming ahead this presents a roadblock to that.

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Myself and Jerkfacefave decided to play a week 1 matchup in a Franchise so I went with the Saints and he was the Lions. The game was on 12 minute quarters with 15 second accelerated clock. I like that set up even in the online games though the stats will show the kind of affect that the faster game speed had on our play. I pulled out the win 9-6 but it wasn’t a pretty sight. 7 total INTs and 10 total sacks. Basically that game speed influenced how we had to play. Either pull it down for a sack (and in some cases get sacked before the drop back animation was completed) or throw the ball up for grabs. With the slower game speed there is time to read defenses and go through progressions, and I just don’t get that same opportunity in these online games.

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The website to view Online Franchises is now up and you can check it out here. Enter in your EA Sports World login info to access it. If you search for pastapadre by user you can take a look at the two franchises that I currently have active and browse the stats and rosters. One issue I immediately noticed is that the team logos are swapped on the game info pages. So my players and the game stats are listed below my opponents logo and vice-versa.  For members of the franchises the website also allows for changing depth charts and working trades.

There is still a ways to go before a conclusion can be made on the Online Franchise mode. While I’m excited about getting it up and going just a few small changes could go a long way. Adding an option for game speed or changing the “default” to slow and getting sliders added in would be reasonable requests at this point.

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  • fas carl

    Fas carl here why say 1st when your already the best!! aye attention people im looking to be in a online franchise this year hit my psn vivalamillzz if you want a stable sob

    Far cas for mayor

  • fas carl

    Fas carl here why say 1st when your already the best!! aye attention people im looking to be in a online franchise this year hit my psn vivalamillzz if you want a stable sob

    Far cas for mayor

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

    I'll look you up fas carl

    Mo Diddley has spoken!

    • fas carl

      Look me up and be prepared young child cause when it comes to madden Fas carl dont play

      Fas carl need i say more!

  • redlishus

    Hopefully they add sliders and the game speed. Still looking forward to it.

    • mjf

      yeah the slow game speed is the shit!

  • redlishus

    Hopefully they add sliders and the game speed. Still looking forward to it.

    • mjf

      yeah the slow game speed is the shit!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

    I'll look you up fas carl

    Mo Diddley has spoken!

    • fas carl

      Look me up and be prepared young child cause when it comes to madden Fas carl dont play

      Fas carl need i say more!

  • Matt

    Odds that the default slow game speed makes it into the game, Pasta?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I'd say odds are good. On The Madden Voice Ian talked about game speed and how no matter what some people will prefer a different speed which is true. But he also said they're still experimenting some so I wouldn't be surprised to see it switched and at least get a feel for reaction to it. I'm hopeful for at least the option to change it at this point.

      • Matt

        Exactly. I totally understand why he needs to put his foot down on a game speed for online ranked games, even though you cant please everyone.

        But I guess I just viewed this as something that should have the option to change and shouldn't be relegated to only one setting. You have the option to change game speeds in non-ranked online games, correct?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

          Nope. No option in unranked games either.

          • Matt

            Ouch.

            Thanks for keeping us updated, Pasta. Love the blog, love the tweets…

          • 69939491=unstoppable

            why make slow game speed so good yet not let us choose to use it, i get it for ranked online. but unranked and online franchise?

    • josh mcown

      1st of all that would never happen since they sold the game to you. too bads sach

  • Matt

    Odds that the default slow game speed makes it into the game, Pasta?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I'd say odds are good. On The Madden Voice Ian talked about game speed and how no matter what some people will prefer a different speed which is true. But he also said they're still experimenting some so I wouldn't be surprised to see it switched and at least get a feel for reaction to it. I'm hopeful for at least the option to change it at this point.

      • Matt

        Exactly. I totally understand why he needs to put his foot down on a game speed for online ranked games, even though you cant please everyone.

        But I guess I just viewed this as something that should have the option to change and shouldn't be relegated to only one setting. You have the option to change game speeds in non-ranked online games, correct?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

          Nope. No option in unranked games either.

          • Matt

            Ouch.

            Thanks for keeping us updated, Pasta. Love the blog, love the tweets…

          • 69939491=unstoppable

            why make slow game speed so good yet not let us choose to use it, i get it for ranked online. but unranked and online franchise?

    • josh mcown

      1st of all that would never happen since they sold the game to you. too bads sach

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

    I was really excited for the Online Franchise when I read about it as well, but pretty much everything I've read since has tempered that excitement. To me, this is more of an online league than a franchise. It's great they were able to get it in the game, but it just feels like a halfway effort to be able to say "Hey, we've got an online franchise this year." As Pasta said, the only franchises that will work will be the one's that are just with your friends.
    I'm holding out hope that since changes are made server side, some of this stuff will be fixed, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

    I was really excited for the Online Franchise when I read about it as well, but pretty much everything I've read since has tempered that excitement. To me, this is more of an online league than a franchise. It's great they were able to get it in the game, but it just feels like a halfway effort to be able to say "Hey, we've got an online franchise this year." As Pasta said, the only franchises that will work will be the one's that are just with your friends.
    I'm holding out hope that since changes are made server side, some of this stuff will be fixed, but I don't think there's much of a chance of that.

  • Brandon F

    Great job pasta

  • ThBeNdS

    Wow I am worried about the game speed. Since my guys and I take our online franchise seriously it almost makes me play offline at normal speed so my timing is not off in our league games. UGH.

    Question: Are there preseason games in the online franchise? If so can you turn off injuries for these games and turn injuries back on once the regular season starts?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      There is no preseason at all in online franchise.

      • ThBeNdS

        I was hoping that was the case. Thanks!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

      Injuries are a part of the game. People do get hurt in preseason games. Although there is no preseason in this mode if there was to get the full sim effect you have to have injuries turned on at all times.

      Mo Diddley the voice of reason!

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

      Injuries are a part of the game. People do get hurt in preseason games. Although, there is no preseason in this mode, if there was to get the full sim effect you have to have injuries turned on at all times.

      Mo Diddley the voice of reason!

      • wowzatlife

        you simply could have just read what was in the review, no?

    • C-Pr0mpt

      You say you guys take your online franchise seriously, and then ask a question like that? lol

  • Brandon F

    Great job pasta

  • ThBeNdS

    Wow I am worried about the game speed. Since my guys and I take our online franchise seriously it almost makes me play offline at normal speed so my timing is not off in our league games. UGH.

    Question: Are there preseason games in the online franchise? If so can you turn off injuries for these games and turn injuries back on once the regular season starts?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      There is no preseason at all in online franchise.

      • ThBeNdS

        I was hoping that was the case. Thanks!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

      Injuries are a part of the game. People do get hurt in preseason games. Although there is no preseason in this mode if there was to get the full sim effect you have to have injuries turned on at all times.

      Mo Diddley the voice of reason!

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

      Injuries are a part of the game. People do get hurt in preseason games. Although, there is no preseason in this mode, if there was to get the full sim effect you have to have injuries turned on at all times.

      Mo Diddley the voice of reason!

      • wowzatlife

        you simply could have just read what was in the review, no?

    • C-Pr0mpt

      You say you guys take your online franchise seriously, and then ask a question like that? lol

  • Smoke316

    great job as usual pasta

  • Smoke316

    great job as usual pasta

  • fas carl

    Hey pasta bro whats your gamertag or psn

    Fas carl is in your extended network

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/The_King_Wilmes King

      Idk bout xbl but psn is pastapadre

  • fas carl

    Hey pasta bro whats your gamertag or psn

    Fas carl is in your extended network

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/The_King_Wilmes King

      Idk bout xbl but psn is pastapadre

  • ribbz

    wait…they are making online games run faster than the default speed setting? Or you play on a slower setting than the default, and you can't adjust it to that one? it boggles my mind why they would change the speed to a non default option and not give you an opportunity to change it….weird.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Yeah I mentioned that in my general online impression write-up too. I don't understand why defaults offline would be different than defaults online. Its never been that way before.

  • ribbz

    wait…they are making online games run faster than the default speed setting? Or you play on a slower setting than the default, and you can't adjust it to that one? it boggles my mind why they would change the speed to a non default option and not give you an opportunity to change it….weird.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Yeah I mentioned that in my general online impression write-up too. I don't understand why defaults offline would be different than defaults online. Its never been that way before.

  • fas carl

    shoo fly dont bother me

  • fas carl

    shoo fly dont bother me

  • http://www.onustees.com/ dre' of onustees.com

    As far as game speed… is OF game speed similar to offline NCAA10? faster… slower?

    Just looking for a point of reference…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Hard to say really. Probably not as quick as NCAA. I'd say its a similar feel to the speed of Madden 09.

  • http://www.onustees.com dre' of onustees.com

    As far as game speed… is OF game speed similar to offline NCAA10? faster… slower?

    Just looking for a point of reference…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Hard to say really. Probably not as quick as NCAA. I'd say its a similar feel to the speed of Madden 09.

  • ThBeNdS

    This is the feature I'm most excited about but I have to be honest… I'm a little worried about it. It really seems like a work in progress. I tried to check out the website for it and it said to try again later… the server was down. I hope this is not a telling sign. I SO want this to work out.

  • ThBeNdS

    This is the feature I'm most excited about but I have to be honest… I'm a little worried about it. It really seems like a work in progress. I tried to check out the website for it and it said to try again later… the server was down. I hope this is not a telling sign. I SO want this to work out.

  • http://twitter.com/kerwindavis @kerwindavis

    hey is there any way we can make a petition to set the default speed to slow. I know you've said there listening to community. as a sim player I can deal with out salary cap seeing this is first yr doing this. but the game speed and sliders is a must have for me and my league members

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I think tweeting Ian is probably a good way to do it. If the public is asking for it they'll have to consider it.

      • mjthegreat

        EVERYONE TWEET IAN!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/kerwindavis @kerwindavis

    hey is there any way we can make a petition to set the default speed to slow. I know you've said there listening to community. as a sim player I can deal with out salary cap seeing this is first yr doing this. but the game speed and sliders is a must have for me and my league members

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I think tweeting Ian is probably a good way to do it. If the public is asking for it they'll have to consider it.

      • mjthegreat

        EVERYONE TWEET IAN!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pbates86

    Pasta, are we able to include draft picks in trades or is it limited to player for player trades?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Halosniper52 Halosniper52

      From what I hear can't trade draft picks EA said but, What my OF is doing is just trading the rights of the picks. We just write down all the trades, and once the draft comes a person that made a draft pick trade will just tell the person he trading with who he wants. Than just release the person into FA's, or trade him to the other person picks him up. Sounds like a lot but it's pretty easy.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

        Exactly. Can trade draft picks, but you could make the trade manually and just have that person draft a player for that team. Drop them and have the team pick them up.

  • Pbates86

    Pasta, are we able to include draft picks in trades or is it limited to player for player trades?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Halosniper52 Halosniper52

      From what I hear can't trade draft picks EA said but, What my OF is doing is just trading the rights of the picks. We just write down all the trades, and once the draft comes a person that made a draft pick trade will just tell the person he trading with who he wants. Than just release the person into FA's, or trade him to the other person picks him up. Sounds like a lot but it's pretty easy.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

        Exactly. Can trade draft picks, but you could make the trade manually and just have that person draft a player for that team. Drop them and have the team pick them up.

  • favre135

    When you say there is an hour-block between weeks, does that mean if a friend and I both want to sim through a week, we have to wait an hour before we can sim through it? What if we play a game and it takes half an hour, and we get out. Do we still need to wait another half an hour to advance? That could get very annoying if true.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Halosniper52 Halosniper52

      Once you sim a week from that point the clock starts got to wait 1 hour.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Yes exactly.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Amani Amani

        Do we know the thought process to waiting an hour between weeks? That just seems silly to me.

        • wowzatlife

          silly? seems fucking retarded what the fuck is ea doing..

          • redlishus

            They were worried about spammer flooding the servers. They didn't want 1 user OF simming through weeks/seasons and flooding the servers. This is how they are preventing that.

  • favre135

    When you say there is an hour-block between weeks, does that mean if a friend and I both want to sim through a week, we have to wait an hour before we can sim through it? What if we play a game and it takes half an hour, and we get out. Do we still need to wait another half an hour to advance? That could get very annoying if true.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Halosniper52 Halosniper52

      Once you sim a week from that point the clock starts got to wait 1 hour.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Yes exactly.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Amani Amani

        Do we know the thought process to waiting an hour between weeks? That just seems silly to me.

        • wowzatlife

          silly? seems fucking retarded what the fuck is ea doing..

          • redlishus

            They were worried about spammer flooding the servers. They didn't want 1 user OF simming through weeks/seasons and flooding the servers. This is how they are preventing that.

  • kmart2180

    Man without the slow speed and no ability to set sliders. This is not going to be as good as I once thought. I did not try the default speed but I am totally in love with the slow (demo speed) and can only imagine that the more speed the worst (IMO).

    The lack of slider customizations hurts really bad cause I have guys that cant pass well so they wanna stay on All-Pro but then the CPU's running game will be terrible and cannot be improved upon by sliders. If Im the Browns I dont wanna be shutting down A. Peterson. I want him to light me up.

    I think I might just have to tell everyone to wait on this mode and just run a test one to check it out. But with so much missing it would be dumb for me to start a 10 season one right now. Maybe by holding off for a month some updates could be made to better the mode. (Or so I hope)

  • kmart2180

    Man without the slow speed and no ability to set sliders. This is not going to be as good as I once thought. I did not try the default speed but I am totally in love with the slow (demo speed) and can only imagine that the more speed the worst (IMO).

    The lack of slider customizations hurts really bad cause I have guys that cant pass well so they wanna stay on All-Pro but then the CPU's running game will be terrible and cannot be improved upon by sliders. If Im the Browns I dont wanna be shutting down A. Peterson. I want him to light me up.

    I think I might just have to tell everyone to wait on this mode and just run a test one to check it out. But with so much missing it would be dumb for me to start a 10 season one right now. Maybe by holding off for a month some updates could be made to better the mode. (Or so I hope)

  • Josh

    Pasta I think EA's reasoning for going with normal speed with online games is because if there is any lag whatsoever then the normal speed will balance it out & almost make it feel like the slow default speed. If the online speed was defaulted to slow then if there is any lag it would make the game feel like very slow. So I actually think that it was smart for EA to use normal speed online.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I dont think thats necessarily the case. Depends on the type of lag, but all you'd end up with is oh crap here comes a blitz, cue lag as you press the button to throw but nothing happens, and a sack. I dont think a faster game speed solves lag issues.

      • wowzatlife

        how is that smart on ea's part.. thier whole promo for the game was we slowed down the speed to make the game play more realistic… then you go ahead and change the speed for online play, the mode thats mostly played, and olinedynasty the most anticipated.. what the fuck kind of sense does that make honestly

  • Josh

    Pasta I think EA's reasoning for going with normal speed with online games is because if there is any lag whatsoever then the normal speed will balance it out & almost make it feel like the slow default speed. If the online speed was defaulted to slow then if there is any lag it would make the game feel like very slow. So I actually think that it was smart for EA to use normal speed online.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I dont think thats necessarily the case. Depends on the type of lag, but all you'd end up with is oh crap here comes a blitz, cue lag as you press the button to throw but nothing happens, and a sack. I dont think a faster game speed solves lag issues.

      • wowzatlife

        how is that smart on ea's part.. thier whole promo for the game was we slowed down the speed to make the game play more realistic… then you go ahead and change the speed for online play, the mode thats mostly played, and olinedynasty the most anticipated.. what the fuck kind of sense does that make honestly

  • Josh

    I think it's pretty dumb that Madden & NCAA weren't on the same page with the game speed this year. The game speed is something that definately has to be on the same page with both games going forward.

  • Josh

    I think it's pretty dumb that Madden & NCAA weren't on the same page with the game speed this year. The game speed is something that definately has to be on the same page with both games going forward.

  • TheGreatOne

    uh oh spaghetti-oh's! Madden's isn't as great as everyone thought, surprise…surprise. People are actually finding out the fact's about the game instead going off their hopes and dreams. When NCAA was coming out all those people were saying "i'm not getting this game – too many things wrong, i'm waiting for madden" well it looks like your precious little madden game gotz some serious issues.

    • Bee Rockwell

      Nice of you to take time out of your day to read a review, only to demean people who've also chosen to read the same review.

      You're a great guy.

  • FSU Judge

    hard to believe that as much as they hyped the slower game speed and the online franchise that the two things are not merged together, or at least have a game speed option for the online franchises

    • wowzatlife

      yeah dude seriously.. what a joke

  • jo momma

    hey pasta, i know you were on some radio show last night and i read before hand there was supposed to be some big announcement, what was it?

  • FSU Judge

    hard to believe that as much as they hyped the slower game speed and the online franchise that the two things are not merged together, or at least have a game speed option for the online franchises

    • wowzatlife

      yeah dude seriously.. what a joke

  • TheGreatOne

    uh oh spaghetti-oh's! Madden's isn't as great as everyone thought, surprise…surprise. People are actually finding out the fact's about the game instead going off their hopes and dreams. When NCAA was coming out all those people were saying "i'm not getting this game – too many things wrong, i'm waiting for madden" well it looks like your precious little madden game gotz some serious issues.

    • Bee Rockwell

      Nice of you to take time out of your day to read a review, only to demean people who've also chosen to read the same review.

      You're a great guy.

  • jo momma

    hey pasta, i know you were on some radio show last night and i read before hand there was supposed to be some big announcement, what was it?

  • http://usdasimleague.webs.com/ CTROB from SG

    yeah the game speed is a little bit of a disappointment…but I really want the player contracts and salaries in.

  • http://usdasimleague.webs.com CTROB from SG

    yeah the game speed is a little bit of a disappointment…but I really want the player contracts and salaries in.

  • GT=kc10785

    maybe the speed is set a little faster because online play has always been slower then offline play in all video games. So by the default speed already being slow they didnt want the game online be super slow. I dont have a problem with the online game speed. Its still slower then last year.Pasta have u played someone good offline u probley still get sacked 10 times with a 12 min qtr game no matter what the speed is.

  • Wrizzla

    Tell you what I havent played at the higher speed online and i can already tell you that its wack if the leave it that way the slower speed is the biggest feature and to take it out of online game would be rediculous

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Amani Amani

    No preseason, no slider adjustments, no trades until week #2 and no salary cap. That would be correct right? Do you still feel that slider adjustments has the best chance of getting into this years game?

    • mjthegreat53

      dont forget no cpu logic. these facts have crushed my online fantasy dreams..

  • GT=kc10785

    maybe the speed is set a little faster because online play has always been slower then offline play in all video games. So by the default speed already being slow they didnt want the game online be super slow. I dont have a problem with the online game speed. Its still slower then last year.Pasta have u played someone good offline u probley still get sacked 10 times with a 12 min qtr game no matter what the speed is.

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