How Good Are Favre and Vick in Madden 10?

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Posted August 20th, 2009 at 9:19 am

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Yesterday brought about the much heralded additions of Michael Vick and Brett Favre to Madden 10. The ratings are out there (VickFavre) but how effective they are in the game can not always be determined by looking at ratings. Continue on for analysis of the two players while user controlled and CPU simmed.

m10vick1Michael Vick

Having run my franchise with Pat White I knew that would be a good basis to judge Vick from. He definitely has a quicker release and a little more zip on his passes while his accuracy is slightly better. Mobility wise Vick is quicker but they are comparable in that regard in threat to the defense. Where I came into problems with Vick is when I tried to lead receivers or fit the passes into tight spaces. The ball tends to sail and accuracy is certainly inconsistent. I do feel much more confident with Vick however as a passer than White while both are somewhat prone to fumbling when on the run. I definitely can see people preferring to use Vick as a starter, though utilized more sparingly he would be a dangerous weapon to keep the defense on its toes.

I simmed three different seasons as the starter taking all the snaps to find out how Vick would fare. The player ratings should produce realistic results.

QB Rating: 77.4, 76.8, 59
TDs: 24, 29, 22
INTs: 11, 18, 27
Yards: 3682, 4057, 3409
Avg Yards: 230.1, 253.5, 213
Comp/Incompletions: 305/586, 346/641, 283/595
Comp %: 52, 54, 48
Rush Att: 94, 88, 106
Rush Yards: 341, 309, 397

So in the simmed seasons the CPU doesn’t have Vick running very much while coming in way high on passing yards and TDs. Vick has never averaged over 200 yards a game passing and never had a season with over 20 TDs. However QB rating and completion percentages come in almost dead on to career averages.

For comparisons sake in one sim I moved Seneca Wallace and Pat White to become starters. Wallace had a strong season with a 82.8 QBR, 34TD-19INT, and 3639 yards. White struggled though with a 61.7 QBR, 12TD-15INT, 2519 yards and only 50% completions.

m10favre1Brett Favre

It was immediately evident that Favre’s arm strength and quick release remain great traits in Madden. I was able to hit some passes that I would’ve had no chance with had it been Pat White. Favre’s accuracy is also decent and a huge upgrade over Tavaris Jackson though comparable to Sage Rosenfels. Biggest difference there is throwing deep downfield Favre is the guy you want back there. His mobility is also good enough to occasionally scramble or buy time in the pocket.

I simmed three different seasons as the starter taking all the snaps to find out how Favre would fare. The player ratings should produce realistic results.

QB Rating: 86.2, 80.1, 82.4
TDs: 27, 21, 23
INTs: 9, 10, 11
Yards: 3237, 3061, 3076
Avg Yards: 202, 191.3, 192.2
Comp/Incompletions:  287/507, 287/506, 294/503
Comp %: 57, 57, 58

Favre’s passing yards being down would make sense given the run oriented team, but you’d also think he’d be hitting some big passes to the speedy receivers at times. What stands out most is the lack of INTs even with fewer pass attempts. Favre hasn’t thrown less than 15 INTs in a season since 1996. So maybe his accuracy ratings, especially the deep accuracy, really are too high and we’re seeing the product of that in the simmed results.

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  • BRian

    Great article! Thank you for the time you put in so soon after the roster update!

  • BRian

    Great article! Thank you for the time you put in so soon after the roster update!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SpEaR_tACLe RvG_SPEAR

    Pasta i liked the way u put the update on each player everytime the roster update comes out! thanks mann!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SpEaR_tACLe RvG_SPEAR

    Pasta i liked the way u put the update on each player everytime the roster update comes out! thanks mann!

  • Alex shery

    Am I the only person in the Madden world who ONLY plays offense in franchise, cause the computer can not be trusted to make a smart decision… From years past , I just got sick of bad AI, so I started only playing offense, still very fun. And it shows what kind of person you are, cause you will be tempted to cheat! Vick and Favre are both great !!!!

  • Alex shery

    Am I the only person in the Madden world who ONLY plays offense in franchise, cause the computer can not be trusted to make a smart decision… From years past , I just got sick of bad AI, so I started only playing offense, still very fun. And it shows what kind of person you are, cause you will be tempted to cheat! Vick and Favre are both great !!!!

  • Kyle

    PASTA, try switching the Eagles coaching scheme so that their QB default it not midway between Scramble and Pocket Passer and just slide it all the way to scrambler then try the simming.

  • Kyle

    PASTA, try switching the Eagles coaching scheme so that their QB default it not midway between Scramble and Pocket Passer and just slide it all the way to scrambler then try the simming.

  • vatoeloco

    pasta, have you seen the psp roster update? favre and vick are in it, but many players pictures have been switched to other players. the free agents are jacked, i see 4 james thrash in a row.

    • Justin

      HELPPPPP!! How did you get the PSP roster update?? i've been looking everywhere.. Can you post it so I can download it please?

  • vatoeloco

    pasta, have you seen the psp roster update? favre and vick are in it, but many players pictures have been switched to other players. the free agents are jacked, i see 4 james thrash in a row.

    • Justin

      HELPPPPP!! How did you get the PSP roster update?? i've been looking everywhere.. Can you post it so I can download it please?

  • PHM

    wow they actually gave Favre a face this year

  • PHM

    wow they actually gave Favre a face this year

  • Bisett

    Dear Pasta Padre,

    What Settings are you using?
    I use 5 Minutes/25s for Franchise

    What Coach Settings are you using? (Found these to affect the Franchise Sim Stats)
    Have you tried increasing Eagles Run % to 60 or even 70% with Vick as Starter?
    Have you tried changing Run % of HB1 to 90%?

    In my opinion Favre should have more INT like 22/20 even 20/20.

    I noticed the QB yrds are quite high this year. Running results are normally quite low.

  • Bisett

    Dear Pasta Padre,

    What Settings are you using?
    I use 5 Minutes/25s for Franchise

    What Coach Settings are you using? (Found these to affect the Franchise Sim Stats)
    Have you tried increasing Eagles Run % to 60 or even 70% with Vick as Starter?
    Have you tried changing Run % of HB1 to 90%?

    In my opinion Favre should have more INT like 22/20 even 20/20.

    I noticed the QB yrds are quite high this year. Running results are normally quite low.

  • mat

    yeah favre's ratings are accurate. Hall of Fame quarterbacks only loose arm strength/become more injury prone. Accuracy should not be the problem. What factors into his interceptions clearly isnt accuracy but I believe decision making. He takes lots of risks, especially when he throws it deep. The computer doesnt account for decision making, just awareness. Brett is clearly aware of where he wants to go with the ball due to his exhorbitant amount of experience, he just makes some bad decisions because he likes to take chances. considering this, his ratings are quite accurate.

  • mat

    yeah favre's ratings are accurate. Hall of Fame quarterbacks only loose arm strength/become more injury prone. Accuracy should not be the problem. What factors into his interceptions clearly isnt accuracy but I believe decision making. He takes lots of risks, especially when he throws it deep. The computer doesnt account for decision making, just awareness. Brett is clearly aware of where he wants to go with the ball due to his exhorbitant amount of experience, he just makes some bad decisions because he likes to take chances. considering this, his ratings are quite accurate.

  • Mike

    Finally got Madden and when I put it in i got the infamous "error 80010514" and my PS3 shit the bed. Talk about bad luck. And i'm out of the warranty.

  • Mike

    Finally got Madden and when I put it in i got the infamous "error 80010514" and my PS3 shit the bed. Talk about bad luck. And i'm out of the warranty.

  • c69

    do anybody know how u can hide your plays when playing someone,an how to load your profiles so u can see your stats.

  • c69

    do anybody know how u can hide your plays when playing someone,an how to load your profiles so u can see your stats.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Borquette Borquette

    I sure hope in the next update Chad Ocho Cinco has a better kick rating.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Borquette Borquette

    I sure hope in the next update Chad Ocho Cinco has a better kick rating.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

    Off the subject here…but Pasta I could have sworn they was suppose to fix the Wr's this year that they would actually fight for catches instead of the db just stepping infront of them and picking off passes all the time?? Or is that gonna be the feature of next year's madden "fight for every catch"? And the pass rush for the cpu is way too effective everytime.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

    Off the subject here…but Pasta I could have sworn they was suppose to fix the Wr's this year that they would actually fight for catches instead of the db just stepping infront of them and picking off passes all the time?? Or is that gonna be the feature of next year's madden "fight for every catch"? And the pass rush for the cpu is way too effective everytime.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

    And also too many drops and passes off the facemask's or wide outs but the leaping linebacker with a 50 inch verticle is catching everything again.

    • Matt

      yeah, they got rid of that in 08 and 09, but I've noticed that linebackers are back to picking off any passes that go near the middle. It's gotten to the point where I won't pass to the middle in any occasion for fear of an interception. I hope EA fixes this soon.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

    And also too many drops and passes off the facemask's or wide outs but the leaping linebacker with a 50 inch verticle is catching everything again.

    • Matt

      yeah, they got rid of that in 08 and 09, but I've noticed that linebackers are back to picking off any passes that go near the middle. It's gotten to the point where I won't pass to the middle in any occasion for fear of an interception. I hope EA fixes this soon.

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