NBA 2K10 Initial Impressions

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Posted September 28th, 2009 at 4:19 pm

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Having spent a significant amount of time with NBA 2K10 over the last few days it felt like a good time to post some of my general impressions of the game thus far. Of course make sure to watch the videos I’ve posted to make your own judgments on some of the strengths and weaknesses. The demo will be out tomorrow for the 360 exclusively with the Magic @ Lakers in a single four minute quarter. From the way things have been explained it sounds like the PS3 won’t see it until next Thursday. At least some of you will get a chance to form your own first hand opinions and see how that compares to what I’ve experienced.

Continue on for my observations from playing NBA 2K10 and feel free to leave your thoughts in the comments.

Overall the game isn’t going to really surprise anyone, and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing considering the series has been highly regarded. There are certainly improvements that have been made over 2K9 however for most people who just pick up and play the game it will have a very familiar feel. What you liked from last year will almost certainly still be there so I’m not going to reiterate those in this write-up, just the things that stood out to me while playing. The biggest addition comes with My Player mode which adds depth to a feature set that had been lacking and provides some real variety to how to play a basketball game.

While I’ll be saving a full article to cover My Player mode I have stumbled across one issue that has really detracted from the enjoyment. After being cut from the Summer Circuit I was picked up by an NBDL team. The games in the NBDL are played in a sold out arena with additions such as cheerleaders which may be the culprit for a drop in the framerate. While it is not unplayable it is quite annoying (jumpy, sluggish) almost to the point where I don’t want to play the mode anymore. The framerate does drop slightly in normal games when using camera angles closer to the court (2K, Action) but isn’t nearly as pronounced as seen in My Player. I’ll continue on to see if the framerate problem occurs in NBA games as well given that is where people will spend most of their time.

There is a completely new menu system which is a welcome change from the old one which was terrible. Unfortunately I don’t like this one much either. I’ve always navigated menus with the D-Pad but it is difficult to do that with this menu system because you have to hold the direction and then press A at the same time. So options in the corners require pushing to the side and the top or bottom at the same time. I’ve found myself slipping off what I wanted pretty frequently. If you played the Draft Combine it is the same format for the full game.

With the gameplay one positive is the off-ball movement. You don’t necessarily need to run a play to make something happen. Court spacing is a little better than last year but I’ve still found it relatively difficult to get open mid-range shots.

I really like the effect that the limit on turbo provides. Unlike in Draft Combine where you started to adjust and play unrealistically to conserve turbo (why trail on a fast break when it would cost you?) here the real players have much more stamina. So you don’t want to misuse turbo, but you don’t feel discouraged from using it in the right situations. It makes for a nice balance.

Shot percentages are very high all around on the default settings. I’ll have up videos of a full game (GM 7 of the NBA Finals) on All-Star tomorrow and I’m sure the shot percentages will be a big topic of discussion coming out of it. This is something that can be adjusted with sliders although when venturing online you’ll be stuck with the defaults. Open shots are so rarely missed, while obviously understanding that they should be more likely to go in, you know the shot is going to be good before it’s even released.

For whatever reason I’ve found All Star to be easier than Pro. Shot percentages remain high, CPU seems a little sloppier with the ball, Pick and Roll is maybe not quite as effective but general player movement allows for more scoring opportunities. I didn’t start winning games until I moved the difficulty up from Pro to All Star which is bizarre.

The AI makes some questionable decisions. I’ve found this to be especially the case defensively. Zone defense seems to be useless because your teammates play their areas in such lackadaisical fashion allowing for wide open shots. The AI also has difficulty defending the Pick and Roll which is the most effective offensive tactic I’ve come across. Help defense in general is not very good. It appears that once a player makes a move for the basket it has almost been scripted that they’ll be getting the shot off and rarely is it properly contested.

I have seen some cool instances of hustle plays. You don’t have control over them (similar to how you don’t control put back dunks) but they haven’t occurred an inordinate amount of times and have made sense in the context of the situations.

One of the things that bothers me the most is I can’t seem to take any leaners or momentum based shots. I can be running using turbo and holding the stick a direction and the player will stop immediately as soon as I go for the shot and go straight up with a jump shot. I’d probably feel better about creating your own shots if they didn’t allow for the defender to be right there and contest it because you can’t be more creative with the shots. It also doesn’t seem possible to take quick shots since you either get a pump fake or they go through their entire shot motion.

I’m not a big fan of the post-score replays, reaction scenes, and “G Moments”. It just interrupts the flow and pace of the game. What bothers me most is that the replays seemingly allow the defense to get down the court while you’re stuck waiting to inbound the ball. If it was stopping the action completely I’d be okay with it. Despite that the overall presentation is nicely done with the highlights in between the quarters and the post game setup that provides numerous options to view highlights even down to reels for each specific player.

The atmosphere of the games is better but still doesn’t quite live up to what I would hope for. Crowd reactions are inconsistent. You’ll get a roar from the home crowd for hitting a three, but then the next time you hit three there may be no cheering at all for it. You’ll see in the Finals game seven videos the crowd doesn’t really even get into the game until the 4th quarter. I was especially hoping there would be playoff crowds wearing the team colors but that has not been included. I didn’t really get a special feel from the playoffs or Finals which was disappointing.

Graphically the game looks a lot like last year with improved lighting but the player faces are all over the board. Take a look at my earlier posting of screenshots for good examples. Some players look decent and others look horrendous. This can’t be all due to the emotion that has been added in because they look odd even when not making an expression. It is also a little distracting in the post-score reaction scenes how the players look bug-eyed running back down the court.

One thing that really annoys me is the slowness of the refs. This is something that was seen in Draft Combine as well. They take their time to get into position and hold onto the ball for a while before handing it over. If you are unlucky enough to throw the ball down the court on an inbounds and it goes out, it’ll be well over 30 seconds before the ref collects the ball, runs it cross court, gives it to the other ref, gets in position, and the ball is handed over to start play.

Also be careful when inbounding at the start of a quarter. In many cases I’m finding that my point guard is down at the other end of the court for some reason. This has led to hitting A, expecting a normal inbound to the PG, only to see the ball get launched and result in a turnover.

Just a couple random things I have noted was a case where the mascot was break dancing on the court during play and how frustrating it is that you get sent back to the original start screen if you are inactive for about 20 seconds in the menus/team select screens and when you return everything has been reset.

I have yet to do do anything with online play as there are still only a handful of people out there with copies, but it’ll be something I jump into when the opportunity presents itself. Coming off 2K9 which had a poor online experience, including a mode in Team Up that never properly worked, this is an important area to see improvement. Unfortunately a few serious problems have already been discovered that need to be addressed.

To wrap up my feelings on the game so far it has been fun for the most part but some issues are present that will need to be accommodated to or adjusted. My Player mode has been much more compelling than the bore that was the Draft Combine but the framerate drop when reaching the NBDL is a concern. You pretty much have a good idea of what you’re going to get out of NBA 2K10. That is a good thing if you’ve enjoyed the series in the past but may not be enough if you’re looking for a fresher experience.

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  • PS3

    No PS3 demo huh..Thats f….ed up…No info or nothing….

    • Xbox>ps3

      ps3 is always a week behind xbox tobad 2k choose to put out a demo this late

  • PS3

    No PS3 demo huh..Thats f….ed up…No info or nothing….

    • Xbox>ps3

      ps3 is always a week behind xbox tobad 2k choose to put out a demo this late

  • PastaLiveLover

    Nothing positive to say Padre…about 2k just all negatives..Your killing me dude

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Take what you liked about 2K9 and consider it'll be there for 2K10. I don't need to reiterate those things. This is just like the impressions I post for every game, I take note of what stands out.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

        Pasta don't take offense to some of these "anonymous" posters. Some of us really do appreciate your work and look forward to your impressions about upcoming games. You keep us informed about problems with games that might arise and keep us with a good forum to go back and forth with. Keep doing what your doing Pasta.

        Mo Diddley the give credit when it's due-er!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      BTW great example, look at my Live 10 demo impressions article.

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      BTW for a great example, look at my Live 10 demo impressions article.

      • Tim

        I sure hope it was garbage. That game has been terrible for years. Seems that way again unfortunately.

      • PS3

        Have u played the retail of Live10…Which do you think will get better reviews this year..2k or Live??

    • nittanylion14

      Wow Stfu you troll….like i said before 2k10=2k9.5 same shit dude just face it

    • Ramen Padre

      Where have u been? Everyone knows Pasta is an EA fanboy.

    • Ramen Padre

      Where have u been? Everyone knows Pasta is an EA fanboy.

  • PastaLiveLover

    Nothing positive to say Padre…about 2k just all negatives..Your killing me dude

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Take what you liked about 2K9 and consider it'll be there for 2K10. I don't need to reiterate those things. This is just like the impressions I post for every game, I take note of what stands out.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Mo_Diddley Mo_Diddley

        Pasta don't take offense to some of these "anonymous" posters. Some of us really do appreciate your work and look forward to your impressions about upcoming games. You keep us informed about problems with games that might arise and keep us with a good forum to go back and forth with. Keep doing what your doing Pasta.

        Mo Diddley the give credit when it's due-er!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      BTW great example, look at my Live 10 demo impressions article.

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      BTW for a great example, look at my Live 10 demo impressions article.

      • Tim

        I sure hope it was garbage. That game has been terrible for years. Seems that way again unfortunately.

      • PS3

        Have u played the retail of Live10…Which do you think will get better reviews this year..2k or Live??

    • nittanylion14

      Wow Stfu you troll….like i said before 2k10=2k9.5 same shit dude just face it

    • Ramen Padre

      Where have u been? Everyone knows Pasta is an EA fanboy.

  • purp2009

    good review ill c wit da demo

  • purp2009

    good review ill c wit da demo

  • joel0078

    I'm confused…You say it's better than 2K9, but you don't have much of anything good to say about 2k10.

  • joel0078

    I'm confused…You say it's better than 2K9, but you don't have much of anything good to say about 2k10.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Take what you liked about 2K9 and consider it'll be there for 2K10. I don't need to reiterate those things.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Take what you liked about 2K9 and consider it'll be there for 2K10. I don't need to reiterate those things.

  • gsny

    yess 2k10 demo out tomorrow. ohh im lovin this.

  • gsny

    yess 2k10 demo out tomorrow. ohh im lovin this.

  • kramer

    IM JUMPIN SHIP AND GOING WITH LIVE10 THIS YR…OPERATIONSPORTS.COM HAS STARTING 5 FACES…THEY ARE UNREAL+ THEY HAVE MIKE WANG. 2K IS STABLE, BUT STALE.

    • gbrown4

      faces don't make a game good

  • kramer

    IM JUMPIN SHIP AND GOING WITH LIVE10 THIS YR…OPERATIONSPORTS.COM HAS STARTING 5 FACES…THEY ARE UNREAL+ THEY HAVE MIKE WANG. 2K IS STABLE, BUT STALE.

    • gbrown4

      faces don't make a game good

  • niners4life

    THANKS PASTA, ALWAYS GOOD TO GET INFO ON A NEW GAME.

  • niners4life

    THANKS PASTA, ALWAYS GOOD TO GET INFO ON A NEW GAME.

  • LayZ

    sounds like what everybodies been saying from watching the videos that this is just nba 2k9.5

    • Chris

      Which is still better than Live 10 :)

      • Habatchi

        lol typical answer just typical lol u guys are too funny

  • LayZ

    sounds like what everybodies been saying from watching the videos that this is just nba 2k9.5

    • Chris

      Which is still better than Live 10 :)

      • Habatchi

        lol typical answer just typical lol u guys are too funny

  • Joe prehn

    Thanks fir the honest preview. About what I expected after watching all the videos that have been released. Minor upgrade over 2k9, which isn’t going to do it for me. Good thing live stepped it up this year!

  • mr.lopez

    I Dont know if you had enough time but do you know what shoe brands are in the game? i know last year no reebok. thanks

  • Joe prehn

    Thanks fir the honest preview. About what I expected after watching all the videos that have been released. Minor upgrade over 2k9, which isn’t going to do it for me. Good thing live stepped it up this year!

  • mr.lopez

    I Dont know if you had enough time but do you know what shoe brands are in the game? i know last year no reebok. thanks

  • Daskcrew1

    some people just cant accept that live is the better game this year, i know people fear what they dont understand but accept it 2k fan boys!!!!

    • James Bell

      Fuck u hater!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

        Nice contribution there buddy.

    • GSNY

      Dude your fuckin retarted everyone knows that live once again sucks ass

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1775621332 Theron Lewis Jr.

      Live is gonna flop once again like always.

      gameplay sucks player models are garbage
      looks like a bunch of oily stick figures playing basketball

    • roy

      I have been a fan of the 2k series since it was just 2k, i am one who looks for the most realistic experience when playing sports games, physics, and how it looks in motion, and the feel of how big the force field is around the player, 2k quit being played by me altogether in 2k9, it seems what made them good they are content with, nba live still doesn't look fully real in motion but after playing this years demo, i might do the unthinkable and move back to live, 2k just don't seem like they try to make a NEW GAME EVERY YEAR, so gamefly will help me give both a shot, but from what i read, and see with videos, 2k seems the same or 2k9.5ish

  • Daskcrew1

    some people just cant accept that live is the better game this year, i know people fear what they dont understand but accept it 2k fan boys!!!!

    • James Bell

      Fuck u hater!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

        Nice contribution there buddy.

    • GSNY

      Dude your fuckin retarted everyone knows that live once again sucks ass

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1775621332 Theron Lewis Jr.

      Live is gonna flop once again like always.

      gameplay sucks player models are garbage
      looks like a bunch of oily stick figures playing basketball

    • roy

      I have been a fan of the 2k series since it was just 2k, i am one who looks for the most realistic experience when playing sports games, physics, and how it looks in motion, and the feel of how big the force field is around the player, 2k quit being played by me altogether in 2k9, it seems what made them good they are content with, nba live still doesn't look fully real in motion but after playing this years demo, i might do the unthinkable and move back to live, 2k just don't seem like they try to make a NEW GAME EVERY YEAR, so gamefly will help me give both a shot, but from what i read, and see with videos, 2k seems the same or 2k9.5ish

  • BoriQ88

    Man 2k aint the only game with the f'ed up faces check this shit out

    http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=36

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

      90% of the live faces are spot on while 90% of 2k's faces are terrible…so what are you saying?

      • BoriQ88

        90% are spot on???!!! Wow WTF water you drinking!!?? Hey I love 2k but I admit I can't deny they dropped the ball with a big amount of there faces, but live isn't that much better. First of all I don't get the bobble headed look they have in each shot maybe its just the perspective but it looks as funny as hell. Also your fucking lying you ass off if you think Brandon Hayward, caron butler, ray allen(same ass alien head 2k has), tim duncan, derek rose, just to name a few , look any better then 2k's.

    • spursfan

      dude man, i think u need glasses bro, pretty much everyone looks dead on, they even got amare wit tha shades this yr

    • MARK-NIS

      i don't know what everyone else sees but i see cartoonish type faces on even more cartoonish type bodies. Some of the faces are ok but most of the faces look awkward. Don't get me wrong I think 2K has some horrible faces too but Live isn't much better

      • Habatchi

        lol ill take lives graphics over 2k's photoshoped grapics anyday granted some of the faces look awkward but they still have more players that look spot on than 2k does plain and simple

        • BoriQ88

          Both companies use photoshop man, same as the mods who fuck with it on the PC. Its called using skin textures from photos how do you think they can do a 100+ players in a couple months it would take much longer to actually mesh the faces out in polys

    • NELL86

      Yea live faces are spot onsome of yall need contacts 2k faces from what I seen are horrible I think the fanboyism is blinding yall lol

  • BoriQ88

    Man 2k aint the only game with the f'ed up faces check this shit out

    http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=36

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

      90% of the live faces are spot on while 90% of 2k's faces are terrible…so what are you saying?

      • BoriQ88

        90% are spot on???!!! Wow WTF water you drinking!!?? Hey I love 2k but I admit I can't deny they dropped the ball with a big amount of there faces, but live isn't that much better. First of all I don't get the bobble headed look they have in each shot maybe its just the perspective but it looks as funny as hell. Also your fucking lying you ass off if you think Brandon Hayward, caron butler, ray allen(same ass alien head 2k has), tim duncan, derek rose, just to name a few , look any better then 2k's.

    • spursfan

      dude man, i think u need glasses bro, pretty much everyone looks dead on, they even got amare wit tha shades this yr

    • MARK-NIS

      i don't know what everyone else sees but i see cartoonish type faces on even more cartoonish type bodies. Some of the faces are ok but most of the faces look awkward. Don't get me wrong I think 2K has some horrible faces too but Live isn't much better

      • Habatchi

        lol ill take lives graphics over 2k's photoshoped grapics anyday granted some of the faces look awkward but they still have more players that look spot on than 2k does plain and simple

        • BoriQ88

          Both companies use photoshop man, same as the mods who fuck with it on the PC. Its called using skin textures from photos how do you think they can do a 100+ players in a couple months it would take much longer to actually mesh the faces out in polys

    • NELL86

      Yea live faces are spot onsome of yall need contacts 2k faces from what I seen are horrible I think the fanboyism is blinding yall lol

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    Good Review Pasta

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    Good Review Pasta

  • Lamar

    NBA 2k9.5….Im about to upgrade my rosters….

    • Joe

      Still better than NBA Live 10. I'm downloading my rosters.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

        Have you played the full version of Live 10? If not you sound like an idiot.

  • Lamar

    NBA 2k9.5….Im about to upgrade my rosters….

    • Joe

      Still better than NBA Live 10. I'm downloading my rosters.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/WWOFTBBNR WWOFTBBNR

        Have you played the full version of Live 10? If not you sound like an idiot.

  • joel0078

    ok, I'm as much of a pastapadre fan as anyone else is, and I know that pasta prefers Live…But for those of you saying "good review….good job"…..are you serious??? Let me digress for a minute…It's not a review…it's his initial impressions. The problem that I am seeing is that his initial impressions seem to be limited on the good aspects of the game, but dominate the negative aspects. You shouldn't say it's better than 2k9, and then flame the new version. I'm wondering how someone who admits to preferring Live over 2K, gets the opportunity to get the game he dislikes early? I know you're a facet in the basketball gaming community, but man, they give you the game early and you come back with 2 things you like and the rest is negative…Send me the game early next year.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Read any of my initial impressions articles for other games. Including the one for Live 10's demo. Same structure. Its what jumps out at me. There aren't a whole lot of "new" things that jumped out at me in 2K10.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

        Honest question.

        Do you think your impressions we're impacted by the fact that you personally prefer Live?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

      Wait what does this have to do with NBA LIVE? This is what kills me about some of you guys it's all good when someone is glowing about the game YOU prefer. But when those impressions don't fit with your own opinion that person is flaming the game.

      So because he got ahold of the game he's supposed to give ALL positive points of the game instead of an HONEST impression. I see, i wonder if this is how game reviews and scores work. Whats worse is you telling him he shouldn't say it's better than 2k9 then flame the new version. So basically when his impression isn't what you wanted to hear he needs to lie in order to please you. Seriously, WTF!

      Send you the game early next year for what? So we can get a dishonest ass kissing review/impression of a game you WANT to love no matter what. Sorry you've already established yourself not worth gathering any informative information from. Which I don't think would do anything to help 2K make a better product.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

        i agree…people are getting mad b/c he is not praising the game…lmfao

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          yup, he's not bashing it ether but because he isn't foaming at the mouth he's a hater or flaming the game. Complete joke.

          • Chris

            @jonathanglapion Don't forget to wipe Pasta's jizz off when you're done!

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

            thats nasty but hey i'll where gloves when he's done shooting on your chin. that is what you meant right? I'm not into that but if you need somebody to wipe your face off is all i'm saying.

        • James Bell

          eat a dick! LIve Boy!

          • joel0078

            My post has nothing to with nba Live. I'm just saying don't say this years version is better than last years, and then post nothing but your negative comments about the game. If it's better than last years game, post the positives too. Not just negatives. Damn some of you guys have no life and no purpose but to bash everyone who has an opinion.

      • WhatIsee

        It has a lot to do with Live, what makes you think it don't, people are generally
        (biased):
        {preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.} OR
        (prejudice):
        an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge.

        When it goes to the things that the love. How can a fan boy of Live really give 2K the credit it deserves or vise versa? It's his right to flame 2K I'll support your comment rather if it was a real point of view or a biased one. But I disagree with the statement saying it's better than 2K9 but goes into the negative about the game. WTF! I guess you can do a better job at making an unbiased review than (joel0078).. I doubt it cause I heard you got a LIVE 4 LIFE tattoo on your @$$!

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          WTF is your retarded ass talking about. Do yourself a favor and stop posting definitions of words you've never even used. I'm reading what you wrote it just makes no fucking sense, who are you talking to?I never said anything about any right to flame anything, the guy I responded to accuses Pasta of flaming because he did get to hear what he wanted to hear. What you're talking about I have no fucking clue and I don't think you know ether.

      • joel0078

        get over yourself homer. I have just as much a right to post my impressions on his impression as anyone else here does. And for the record, you've never seen me post here, and I've been around here for 3 years. I don't post at topics that don't get me restled. I play both games and I like both games, I buy them both every year. Don't even think about making what I said about Live. Check yourself before jumping all over my back.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          i think you need to read the shit you write.homer.

      • joel0078

        I don't know who you think I am, but I am not anyone that expects anyone to praise 2k. I'm a fan of both games boy. I buy both games, I play both games and I have no allegiance to either one…You on the other hand are the one who got bent out of shape because I disagreed with the WAY HE WROTE HIS IMPRESSION. You can't say this game is better than the previous, than post only negatives about why you don't like it… It's lacking substance….I said "send the game to me early next time" in a sarcastic sense, meaning if he doesn't like it, I'll be happy to take it off his hands…..If anyone here comes off as a fanboy, it's you.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          Dude the post is titled INTIAL IMPRESSIONS you do realize this, right?you were to quick to jump on his ass when you should have read through what he wrote again. thats all i'm saying basically.

          • joel0078

            you should take your own advice and read what I initally wrote…What part of "IN MY OPINION" he shows to many negative impressions and very few positives? I am allowed to have an opinion, right? Ton's of guys who are on the fence about buying this game, come anywhere to read a glimpse into how somone who has the game feels about it. Pasta is trying to be fair in his opinions, but how is his impression to be taken as a "fair" impression when he only cites his negative experiences? Maybe you and I have two very different expectations. And by the way, please show some respect to me…I wasn't coming after anyone in my writing..I expressed my opinion in a civil manner and then you want to tear my head off for not agreeing with him..It has nothing to do with being a live fan boy, because that I am certainly not.

    • mrmarcus

      my thoughts exactly joel and to add to what you said this guy prefers live over 2k and i played that live demo and in my opinion it sucks; the only thing i like was the intro part when they come out the lockeroom. the controls are horrible and honestly the live series hasnt been good since sega genesis.

  • joel0078

    ok, I'm as much of a pastapadre fan as anyone else is, and I know that pasta prefers Live…But for those of you saying "good review….good job"…..are you serious??? Let me digress for a minute…It's not a review…it's his initial impressions. The problem that I am seeing is that his initial impressions seem to be limited on the good aspects of the game, but dominate the negative aspects. You shouldn't say it's better than 2k9, and then flame the new version. I'm wondering how someone who admits to preferring Live over 2K, gets the opportunity to get the game he dislikes early? I know you're a facet in the basketball gaming community, but man, they give you the game early and you come back with 2 things you like and the rest is negative…Send me the game early next year.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      Read any of my initial impressions articles for other games. Including the one for Live 10's demo. Same structure. Its what jumps out at me. There aren't a whole lot of "new" things that jumped out at me in 2K10.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

        Honest question.

        Do you think your impressions we're impacted by the fact that you personally prefer Live?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

      Wait what does this have to do with NBA LIVE? This is what kills me about some of you guys it's all good when someone is glowing about the game YOU prefer. But when those impressions don't fit with your own opinion that person is flaming the game.

      So because he got ahold of the game he's supposed to give ALL positive points of the game instead of an HONEST impression. I see, i wonder if this is how game reviews and scores work. Whats worse is you telling him he shouldn't say it's better than 2k9 then flame the new version. So basically when his impression isn't what you wanted to hear he needs to lie in order to please you. Seriously, WTF!

      Send you the game early next year for what? So we can get a dishonest ass kissing review/impression of a game you WANT to love no matter what. Sorry you've already established yourself not worth gathering any informative information from. Which I don't think would do anything to help 2K make a better product.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

        i agree…people are getting mad b/c he is not praising the game…lmfao

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          yup, he's not bashing it ether but because he isn't foaming at the mouth he's a hater or flaming the game. Complete joke.

          • Chris

            @jonathanglapion Don't forget to wipe Pasta's jizz off when you're done!

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

            thats nasty but hey i'll where gloves when he's done shooting on your chin. that is what you meant right? I'm not into that but if you need somebody to wipe your face off is all i'm saying.

        • James Bell

          eat a dick! LIve Boy!

          • joel0078

            My post has nothing to with nba Live. I'm just saying don't say this years version is better than last years, and then post nothing but your negative comments about the game. If it's better than last years game, post the positives too. Not just negatives. Damn some of you guys have no life and no purpose but to bash everyone who has an opinion.

      • WhatIsee

        It has a lot to do with Live, what makes you think it don't, people are generally
        (biased):
        {preference or an inclination, especially one that inhibits impartial judgment.} OR
        (prejudice):
        an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge.

        When it goes to the things that the love. How can a fan boy of Live really give 2K the credit it deserves or vise versa? It's his right to flame 2K I'll support your comment rather if it was a real point of view or a biased one. But I disagree with the statement saying it's better than 2K9 but goes into the negative about the game. WTF! I guess you can do a better job at making an unbiased review than (joel0078).. I doubt it cause I heard you got a LIVE 4 LIFE tattoo on your @$$!

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          WTF is your retarded ass talking about. Do yourself a favor and stop posting definitions of words you've never even used. I'm reading what you wrote it just makes no fucking sense, who are you talking to?I never said anything about any right to flame anything, the guy I responded to accuses Pasta of flaming because he did get to hear what he wanted to hear. What you're talking about I have no fucking clue and I don't think you know ether.

      • joel0078

        get over yourself homer. I have just as much a right to post my impressions on his impression as anyone else here does. And for the record, you've never seen me post here, and I've been around here for 3 years. I don't post at topics that don't get me restled. I play both games and I like both games, I buy them both every year. Don't even think about making what I said about Live. Check yourself before jumping all over my back.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          i think you need to read the shit you write.

          homer.

      • joel0078

        I don't know who you think I am, but I am not anyone that expects anyone to praise 2k. I'm a fan of both games boy. I buy both games, I play both games and I have no allegiance to either one…You on the other hand are the one who got bent out of shape because I disagreed with the WAY HE WROTE HIS IMPRESSION. You can't say this game is better than the previous, than post only negatives about why you don't like it… It's lacking substance….I said "send the game to me early next time" in a sarcastic sense, meaning if he doesn't like it, I'll be happy to take it off his hands…..If anyone here comes off as a fanboy, it's you.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

          Dude the post is titled INTIAL IMPRESSIONS you do realize this, right?

          you were to quick to jump on his ass when you should have read through what he wrote again. thats all i'm saying basically.

          • joel0078

            you should take your own advice and read what I initally wrote…What part of "IN MY OPINION" he shows to many negative impressions and very few positives? I am allowed to have an opinion, right? Ton's of guys who are on the fence about buying this game, come anywhere to read a glimpse into how somone who has the game feels about it. Pasta is trying to be fair in his opinions, but how is his impression to be taken as a "fair" impression when he only cites his negative experiences? Maybe you and I have two very different expectations. And by the way, please show some respect to me…I wasn't coming after anyone in my writing..I expressed my opinion in a civil manner and then you want to tear my head off for not agreeing with him..It has nothing to do with being a live fan boy, because that I am certainly not.

    • mrmarcus

      my thoughts exactly joel and to add to what you said this guy prefers live over 2k and i played that live demo and in my opinion it sucks; the only thing i like was the intro part when they come out the lockeroom. the controls are horrible and honestly the live series hasnt been good since sega genesis.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    What about the Association? Did that get upgraded?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    What about the Association? Did that get upgraded?

  • James

    Here comes LIVE!!! 2K's game looks just like 2K9… and this impression blog says a lot. I've always been a 2K guy but I'm thinking that LIVE might have finally done it. We shall see tomorrow when the 2k demo drops.

  • James

    Here comes LIVE!!! 2K's game looks just like 2K9… and this impression blog says a lot. I've always been a 2K guy but I'm thinking that LIVE might have finally done it. We shall see tomorrow when the 2k demo drops.

  • flysociety757

    sounds like a 2k bash post

  • PS3

    Live's time is next year..Much improved but not ready..2k is pissing me off with the PS3 demo..Makes me just wanna buy Live and give 2k no dollars..

  • PS3

    Live's time is next year..Much improved but not ready..2k is pissing me off with the PS3 demo..Makes me just wanna buy Live and give 2k no dollars..

  • flysociety757

    sounds like a 2k bash post

  • nikeman4 sho

    man pasta i appreciate your opion but u gotta learn how to play the game first before u criticize it.fofr instance in your videos with the bulls and nets u tried running a play and took diagram with dot,dot ,dot(- – - – - -) udint pass u follow the line,and several u tried to cheese with no avail ,but u didnt mention that,u tried to laujnch full court passes that were intercepted,help defense that work,andplayers playing passing lane.but no u dont mention that…face it dude u a 2k hater and u use this forum 4 your views…do us a favor on oct 6th go and purchase live and have fun,and let the real basketball players play a a real game…bottom line we dont need u..holla

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

      this dude is really upset…this may be the first year i don't buy two games and just stick with live b/c i like his honest opinion. From the videos it does look like 2k9 w/ better presentation but overall he said if you are looking for something fresh this won't be the game. Dude don't get mad b/c pasta not brown nosing 2k and saying it's the best game he ever played. He's just telling you the truth and it hurts.

      • nikeman4 sho

        all im sayin is learn the game first before u tried to comment on it…just played the demo and it is sic…sim ballers unite this is bball…if u guys want to play arcade ball go to live.im not mad at you 4 it ,that just the how limited your skillz r…but when u ready to step up to sim give 2k a try all im sayin…holla

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

      why the fuck you on his site.LMAO…… holla.

    • optimusp76

      yo nike man 2k is the same dam game dude plus 2k has no control the controls are horrible and always have live has way better controls man

    • lockdown db

      thank u live is so fake i play ball n 2k is a whole lot better u cant play defense on live

    • lockdown db

      thank u live is so fake i play ball n 2k is a whole lot better u cant play defense on live

  • nikeman4 sho

    man pasta i appreciate your opion but u gotta learn how to play the game first before u criticize it.fofr instance in your videos with the bulls and nets u tried running a play and took diagram with dot,dot ,dot(- – - – - -) udint pass u follow the line,and several u tried to cheese with no avail ,but u didnt mention that,u tried to laujnch full court passes that were intercepted,help defense that work,andplayers playing passing lane.but no u dont mention that…face it dude u a 2k hater and u use this forum 4 your views…do us a favor on oct 6th go and purchase live and have fun,and let the real basketball players play a a real game…bottom line we dont need u..holla

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

      this dude is really upset…this may be the first year i don't buy two games and just stick with live b/c i like his honest opinion. From the videos it does look like 2k9 w/ better presentation but overall he said if you are looking for something fresh this won't be the game. Dude don't get mad b/c pasta not brown nosing 2k and saying it's the best game he ever played. He's just telling you the truth and it hurts.

      • nikeman4 sho

        all im sayin is learn the game first before u tried to comment on it…just played the demo and it is sic…sim ballers unite this is bball…if u guys want to play arcade ball go to live.im not mad at you 4 it ,that just the how limited your skillz r…but when u ready to step up to sim give 2k a try all im sayin…holla

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

      why the fuck you on his site.LMAO…… holla.

    • optimusp76

      yo nike man 2k is the same dam game dude plus 2k has no control the controls are horrible and always have live has way better controls man

    • lockdown db

      thank u live is so fake i play ball n 2k is a whole lot better u cant play defense on live

  • Joe

    As always, thank you pasta for your impressions. Since I liked 2K9 I think I will like 2K10 (or 2K9.5 as every person on this site likes to call it…you are all so witty). I am looking forward to the demo because I read the post up system is different this year but maybe it's not because you didn't say anything about it. Maybe I read that it's different in Live 10???? Who knows. I never play modes like "My Player" so I can care less about that. Thanks again Pasta.

  • Joe

    As always, thank you pasta for your impressions. Since I liked 2K9 I think I will like 2K10 (or 2K9.5 as every person on this site likes to call it…you are all so witty). I am looking forward to the demo because I read the post up system is different this year but maybe it's not because you didn't say anything about it. Maybe I read that it's different in Live 10???? Who knows. I never play modes like "My Player" so I can care less about that. Thanks again Pasta.

  • Cause and Effect

    I saw your videos Pasta and you should not review any basketball game. You don't know how to do moves or how to momentum shots so you blame the game instead of you not knowing how to do it. I've watched plenty of Pared/momentous videos to know those things can be done, you just don't know how. You talk about spacing and you're running all over the place. You have no basketball knowledge at all. Stick to playing not reviewing. Please

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

      SERIOUSLY…

    • Chris

      Exactly! I've been sayin that! Pasta sucks at basketball & that's why he prefers Live!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1775621332 Theron Lewis Jr.

      yea hes right u can do momentum shots and a ton of moves
      i think someone should have started up the tutorial before starting an actual game

      • Guest

        This game is horrible, thank god for EA.

      • Guest

        This game is horrible, thank god for EA.

  • theron

    Nothing a patch cant fix

    • LayZ

      2k has never fixed much that people wanted with a patch

  • Cause and Effect

    I saw your videos Pasta and you should not review any basketball game. You don't know how to do moves or how to momentum shots so you blame the game instead of you not knowing how to do it. I've watched plenty of Pared/momentous videos to know those things can be done, you just don't know how. You talk about spacing and you're running all over the place. You have no basketball knowledge at all. Stick to playing not reviewing. Please

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

      SERIOUSLY…

    • Chris

      Exactly! I've been sayin that! Pasta sucks at basketball & that's why he prefers Live!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1775621332 Theron Lewis Jr.

      yea hes right u can do momentum shots and a ton of moves
      i think someone should have started up the tutorial before starting an actual game

      • Guest

        This game is horrible, thank god for EA.

  • theron

    Nothing a patch cant fix

    • LayZ

      2k has never fixed much that people wanted with a patch

  • LayZ

    2k has never fixed any of the things people wanted in patches

  • LayZ

    2k has never fixed any of the things people wanted in patches

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