NBA Live 10 Initial Impressions

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Posted October 4th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

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The NBA Live series comes into this year with increased expectations after primarily concentrating efforts on improving the gameplay experience rather than adding in new modes. While EA has built out a good feature set the last few years, the primary focus of gameplay was necessary and appears to have paid off if gamer response and early reviews are to be believed.

Continue on for my observations from playing NBA Live 10 over the last few days. Feel free to leave your thoughts in the comments.

It quickly became apparent that the way to be successful in Live 10 is to play the game in a sim manner. 12 minute quarters are probably going to be necessary to consistently get realistic scores and stats. The game rewards playing basketball the right way. Certainly there will be some things found that aren’t balanced properly, but I’ve yet to come across anything that is overly effective on offense. Running plays, using dribble moves to break down the defense, and creating space to get open shots is a very satisfying feeling.

I had a lot of issues with the demo as I detailed in my impressions of it. In general the game felt sloppy despite the obvious improvements that had been made. The full game is a lot cleaner, but not just in some adjustments that were made following the demo build but also from the personal side of getting acclimated to the controls and comfortable with the way the game plays as to what works and what doesn’t.

Still there can be quite a lot of turnovers. Some passes that I sense are safe get stolen or tipped away. When backing down or trying to make a move down low the ball is often knocked away. You really have to concentrate while playing the game or the defense will make you pay for that. Something I really appreciate is being able to affect passes while playing defense. I like putting my hands up manually with the right stick, and I’ve had a couple times where I’ve been able to deflect passes that way.

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The contact that is felt especially when driving into traffic is great, it prevents too many easy layups or dunks from happening. At the same time it can also be frustrating. I now hesitate to drive to the hoop because while I may believe I’m in a position to have a high percentage attempt I end up in a contact animation. Most of the time that results in a missed shot. Fouls are rarely called, if ever, on these animations which is somewhat odd. For some reason the CPU can make more of these than I can which has bothered me also.

Last year I didn’t find the Synergy effect on gameplay to be all that significant. In Live 10 though it is very apparent. Players act like themselves on the court. As many people pointed out in the full game video I posted, Dwayne Wade was relentless attacking the rim and took charge offensively. It isn’t perfect, though certainly the best a game has represented tendency of players and teams. Going against the Cavs there were times where Lebron James seemed to disappear, but then he’d come back and dominate a stretch of a few minutes. It was during that period where he wasn’t having a big affect on the games that Shaq seemed to take over.

I really like the hustle plays that are seen. They make sense in the context of the situations and don’t happen too often. There are occasions where a lack of aggressiveness towards the ball are seen, sometimes after a rebound or even after a hustle play as the ball is loose. While it may not look right as long as the result feels right it doesn’t bother me too much.

Rebounding is much improved and for the most part proper positioning and timing will see the correct player come down with the board. It is just those occasions, which don’t happen all that often, where the ball will hit the ground or maybe the player won’t even jump but still pulls it in that look awkward.

The CPU also seems more likely to get offensive rebounds than I am. I’ve found that the best idea is to switch over and control someone under the hoop so you can manually position him to box out. Otherwise the CPU has a good chance at getting the board. The stats don’t necessarily show a huge discrepancy between the two sides but it definitely feels like they’re more apt to get the offensive boards. Not only that but when I do get an offensive rebound I usually end up getting stripped or my put back blocked or missed.

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Fast breaks are rare and I think it’s because the defenses all get back so quickly. I think I’ve only had a few successful fast breaks and those came from steals on the perimeter and it has just been the one guy going all the way. I don’t believe I’ve seen any 2-1, 3-2 type fast breaks from either myself or the CPU let alone successful ones.

I’m looking forward to the patching in of the manual back down mechanic. I just don’t feel completely comfortable with the contextual take on it so I haven’t spent much time attempting moves in the low post. Since the ball gets knocked away often when making a move I’ve been avoiding the potential turnovers.

While the player control and momentum are represented well, I find that I’m getting pulled into some types of shots I didn’t intend. I have to stop a player completely before pulling up for a three, otherwise they’ll take a couple steps over the line and go for a long distance leaner. The game should be able to recognize a little better the situation and what someone would likely be wanting to do. I’m starting to adjust to this some more, but I still have a bunch of shots in every game that were not what I was anticipating when I started to take them.

The CPU players seem to force shots randomly, almost like they have determined they have to take a shot and must find a way to get it off. It doesn’t make sense in the context of the situations either. It could be early in the shot clock and a player, which could be anyone not just a superstar, will have the ball and do something like a turnaround fadeaway or shoot through a double team.

Shooting percentages are excellent right out of the box for both the user and CPU. I feel like the 3pt % may be a little on the low side though. Most games I’m seeing about 10-30% combined between the two sides.

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The CPU can be a little slow to start the offense and actually at times it feels like they’re just standing there with the ball waiting for you to move in on them before they do anything. This was an issue in the demo also. It may not be as blatant as the demo but I still get a little antsy when the CPU is standing out there and not running the offense.

Blocks often look really awkward. I know they worked on making the blocks realistic but they still don’t look right. Sometimes I’ll go up for a jumpshot and have it blocked, not really understanding how it happened and the ball just getting knocked away instantly.

I would like to run plays more often in the game but it’s another thing I don’t fully trust or understand. The A icon comes up and even if its lit up there will be times where I hit A and it passes to someone else completely. I just can’t afford to risk turnovers like that.

The atmosphere of the games is absolutely the best I’ve ever experienced in a sports title.  The crowd goes nuts in playoff games and it feels so intense because of it. I’ve never felt pressure playing a road game in any sports title no matter how “loud” they have presented them. That is until now, where the crowd legitimately unnerves and intimidates me. Great job by EA here and it really accents how the other sports games aren’t living up to fully representing the atmosphere found in their respective sports.

It isn’t just the atmosphere but also the unique authentic touches that are seen. Whether it is the personal pre-game rituals, arena specific sounds or the wide array of jerseys to choose from, the overall experience is completely immersive. In the videos I’ve posted you can hear things like Vince Carter getting booed every time he touches the ball in Toronto or the Ric Flair “Woo” in New Orleans after Chris Paul scores. There are different things like these seen across the league. The attention to detail is great and hopefully they just continue to expand on this going forward to offer unique authentic feels for every team and arena.

I was glad to see that not every game has that awkward starting lineup introduction that has been seen in the videos and in the demo. That is only for playoff games and it doesn’t feel completely out of place there. I prefer the other intros with players warming up but they’ll need more variety in the future.

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The overall presentation is not great but it’s decent. I like that the replays and featured highlights don’t affect the flow of the games since they only play at dead ball situations. I don’t particularly care for the post score reaction cut-ins though. There also needs to be something better than just game stats and the top player’s stats displayed during halftime in the future.

I really like the feel of the freestyle passing method but I don’t feel like I can trust it. By holding down the LT instead of just having the icons to pass to you can now use the right stick to send it to a player in a general direction. There have been times where I’ve been able to use it for a quick pass on a fast breaks or to open players nearby. However there have also been instances where I’ve thought it would go to one player and it went somewhere completely else. In one situation I recall it was a fast break and I tried to flick it over to a trailing player off to the side and instead the pass went all the way to someone in the back court for a turnover.

One of the problems I seem to have is playing one-on-one defense. There is no mechanic to stay with your check, and when you make movements they can be sharp and take you out of position. Because of that lots of times I have guys drive right by me as I’m just standing there not sure how to react. That has probably been evident in the videos that except for the times where it contextually brings my player into a bumping animation with the ball handler I feel like I’m out on an island and more comfortable playing off-ball defense.

After simming through Dynasty mode and playing several games throughout the season there doesn’t seem to be much that differentiates the games in dynasty compared to the standard ones. There is supposedly dynamic commentary based on the events of your dynasty but I didn’t hear anything that stood out. About the only difference seen is with some on-screen displays that show up at different times. I noticed ones for the upcoming schedule, conference standings, and up-to-date seasons stats or stats from the last game for specific players.

Dynamic Season can’t begin until the regular season actually starts but it is an intriguing concept that a lot of people will probably enjoy. I had initial reservations considering whether or not people would be playing on regular basis and keeping up with the real season, but there is enough flexibility that you can play “rewind games” or play only the games you want to. It’ll be interesting to see how this develops over the course of the season. Last year the DNA updates kept interest in the game alive longer and Dynamic Season should strengthen the replayability to an even greater extent.

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While I like the flow of the commentary and the pairing of Marv Albert and Steve Kerr it is definitely getting stale for people who have played the game the last few years. The supposed addition of dynamic commentary in Dynasty mode was not apparent in the games I played which was disappointing in that regard.

I really like the graphical style, the vibrancy of the colors and environments. Players faces are generally good, though the players do have a bit too much of a shine to them that give them a slightly manufactured rather than natural look.

The push for refining and increasing the impact of the Synergy data will pay dividends, though I wish it also took into account defensive tendencies. While the daily roster updates and rewind games are great benefits of the service, it does appear to have also really affected how the players act on the court and how well the team styles are represented.

I was a little disappointed that the NBA Academy had been removed, but it is actually there in Dynasty mode for training. However they are all the same drills from last year. Unfortunately no new ones have been added.

As detailed in my analysis of the performance installing to the 360 hard drive, loading time into different parts of the game are quite long. This is probably due to “The Hangar” loading up in some instances but it also takes a while to get into areas such as Dynasty. Loading times are significantly improved by installing but they are still on the long side of things.

In-game saves should be a necessary addition for next year. Having to play what is extended games for most people at 12 minute quarters, that can be a time commitment that will create problems for some.

Following the end of the game you can access what has been determined as the top plays from the game. They can be sorted and browsed through a few different categories such as dunks, layups, or emotion. The problem is the replays are cropped early and at the end. So if you were looking to save the replay there is little you can do in the editing stage because the replays begin right before the event and end right after it. So my suggestion is to take care of that immediately during the games which isn’t ideal since it breaks up the flow and pace of playing naturally.

Online play impressions will come this week once the wave of people hit following release. Online performance and options have been a strength of Live the past couple years. If you missed it check out the Live Run online impressions posted earlier.

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Overall while I still have a number of issues with NBA Live 10 I’m taken aback by the sim nature and the unbelievable atmosphere. I came out of the demo with very mixed feelings but many of those concerns have been put to rest with the full game. The most important thing to me with any game will always the fun factor and the elements contributing to that have been more prevalent than any frustration stemming from the flaws.

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  • http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

    RIP 2k.

  • http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

    RIP 2k.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    I'm not going to say one is "better" than the other. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and would say to anyone just to consider what matters to them in each game. If there are particular aspects of the games you'd like my thoughts on which I like more for I'm okay to give that opinion though.

    • http://twitter.com/Bgamer90 @Bgamer90

      That would be nice :)

    • LC7

      which game do you consider more fun, or in other words, which game do you have more fun playing?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

        For me its Live, but I can't say that would be the case for everyone.

    • Jacob

      Ya I have a question… I really like the franchise mode from NBA 2K9. I want to know if this is sort of similar. Are the season stats realistic if you sim? Can you sim through maybe a series of 30 games quickly? Are scouting and drafting prospects a pain or are they fun, realistic, and do they make sense? Are new salaries fare– because in NBA 2k9 i would have a guy who's rated a 97 but averaged only like 5 ppg, 4 rpg, and 4 apg, and he wanted a max contract. Can you hire a lot of staff? And how do players improve throughout the season/years. Thanks and sorry if I asked too much!

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    I'm not going to say one is "better" than the other. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and would say to anyone just to consider what matters to them in each game. If there are particular aspects of the games you'd like my thoughts on which I like more for I'm okay to give that opinion though.

    • http://twitter.com/Bgamer90 @Bgamer90

      That would be nice :)

    • LC7

      which game do you consider more fun, or in other words, which game do you have more fun playing?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

        For me its Live, but I can't say that would be the case for everyone.

    • Jacob

      Ya I have a question… I really like the franchise mode from NBA 2K9. I want to know if this is sort of similar. Are the season stats realistic if you sim? Can you sim through maybe a series of 30 games quickly? Are scouting and drafting prospects a pain or are they fun, realistic, and do they make sense? Are new salaries fare– because in NBA 2k9 i would have a guy who's rated a 97 but averaged only like 5 ppg, 4 rpg, and 4 apg, and he wanted a max contract. Can you hire a lot of staff? And how do players improve throughout the season/years. Thanks and sorry if I asked too much!

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    Aww F**k It I'll Just Get Both & Decide That Way!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MVsLEjwS-I

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      Haha, Beasley, it's been fun watching you go back and forth.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

        hey beasley30 that video was hilarious my dude.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    Aww F**k It I'll Just Get Both & Decide That Way!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MVsLEjwS-I

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      Haha, Beasley, it's been fun watching you go back and forth.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

        hey beasley30 that video was hilarious my dude.

  • Live convert

    Hey Pasta I noticed you mentioned there is no mechanic to keep your defender in front of your man but infact the Right Bumper (360) is supposed to do that. It wont lock you in like 2K9 or anything but it does help you stay in front of your guy.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      I'm going to have to try that, but in all honesty, I like the defensive mechanics, makes me react quicker, feels like playing defense. I keep on making the mistake of pressing up on Nelson with Fisher (on the demo) and Nelson blowing past him, but if I create some space, then I have a better chance of reacting to his movements. Defensive basics if you ask me.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I haven't found that to be effective.

  • Live convert

    Hey Pasta I noticed you mentioned there is no mechanic to keep your defender in front of your man but infact the Right Bumper (360) is supposed to do that. It wont lock you in like 2K9 or anything but it does help you stay in front of your guy.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      I'm going to have to try that, but in all honesty, I like the defensive mechanics, makes me react quicker, feels like playing defense. I keep on making the mistake of pressing up on Nelson with Fisher (on the demo) and Nelson blowing past him, but if I create some space, then I have a better chance of reacting to his movements. Defensive basics if you ask me.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      I haven't found that to be effective.

  • 2K or Live

    Pasta,

    Question: Which game (2k or Live) does the CPU play better situational basketball? What I mean by that is… does the AI take into consideration score and time when it comes to how they play? Neither one of these games had good situational play by the AI in past iterations. This was none more apparent than when it was the 4th quarter and the CPU would call time outs down the stretch or go for 3 pts when they needed to, or even play fast pace when it was a minute left and they needed a few scores. They would just walk the ball up court and pass 100 times before they shot. Obviously, this is an aspect of the game that only matters when playing offline, but I honestly couldn't play a season which such terrible AI situational play. I'm interested in buying the game that gives the better sim experience, but not just from how I play the game, but also by how the CPU plays so that playing offline will be enjoyable.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      This is a very good question, hoping to see it answered. I think you're the first person to ask this question and now I'm curious as well.

    • the king

      Live does a lot better of a job. I was the Cavs playing the Lakers on 2K and the Lakers had 1.7 seconds left. They inbounded the ball to bynum on the perimeter and he took a little bit to turn around and ended up shooting a contested three. In live the both times ive had this situation the cpu gave it to there best perimeter player and let him shoot.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

        we was talking about this same thing on the os forums and mike wang said that the late game ai is ok but it can be tuned better and they are gonna tune it and have it in the first patch. Some people were saying that they were in a close game and the cpu didn't play the situation right and the user won the game, but they also said that it don't happen often but mike told us that they were gonna tune it so that's always good to know. Hope that answers your question.

        • http://twitter.com/Sickn3s19o @Sickn3s19o

          yea the a.i. in live works really good at times i was in a intense game with the spurs that went to double overtime and i was the nuggets and took the lead with like 32 seconds to go and then when the spurs noticed they were loosing they imidiatley stoped playing a halfcourt game and u saw the a.i. give the ball to ginobli and richard jefferson alot down the stretch the wholw game was basically a half court game for the spurs with the nuggets i jus played as they play in reality at a fast pace they couldnt seem to keep up also tony parker kept trying to drive to the lane off of pick n rolls and i kept cutting him off so that was messing his game up alot that game was tons of fun jr smith is a beast man 38 pts 4-6 from 3pt range i forgot the final score though lol

  • 2K or Live

    Pasta,

    Question: Which game (2k or Live) does the CPU play better situational basketball? What I mean by that is… does the AI take into consideration score and time when it comes to how they play? Neither one of these games had good situational play by the AI in past iterations. This was none more apparent than when it was the 4th quarter and the CPU would call time outs down the stretch or go for 3 pts when they needed to, or even play fast pace when it was a minute left and they needed a few scores. They would just walk the ball up court and pass 100 times before they shot. Obviously, this is an aspect of the game that only matters when playing offline, but I honestly couldn't play a season which such terrible AI situational play. I'm interested in buying the game that gives the better sim experience, but not just from how I play the game, but also by how the CPU plays so that playing offline will be enjoyable.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      This is a very good question, hoping to see it answered. I think you're the first person to ask this question and now I'm curious as well.

    • the king

      Live does a lot better of a job. I was the Cavs playing the Lakers on 2K and the Lakers had 1.7 seconds left. They inbounded the ball to bynum on the perimeter and he took a little bit to turn around and ended up shooting a contested three. In live the both times ive had this situation the cpu gave it to there best perimeter player and let him shoot.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/navyboy09 navyboy09

        we was talking about this same thing on the os forums and mike wang said that the late game ai is ok but it can be tuned better and they are gonna tune it and have it in the first patch. Some people were saying that they were in a close game and the cpu didn't play the situation right and the user won the game, but they also said that it don't happen often but mike told us that they were gonna tune it so that's always good to know. Hope that answers your question.

        • http://twitter.com/Sickn3s19o @Sickn3s19o

          yea the a.i. in live works really good at times i was in a intense game with the spurs that went to double overtime and i was the nuggets and took the lead with like 32 seconds to go and then when the spurs noticed they were loosing they imidiatley stoped playing a halfcourt game and u saw the a.i. give the ball to ginobli and richard jefferson alot down the stretch the wholw game was basically a half court game for the spurs with the nuggets i jus played as they play in reality at a fast pace they couldnt seem to keep up also tony parker kept trying to drive to the lane off of pick n rolls and i kept cutting him off so that was messing his game up alot that game was tons of fun jr smith is a beast man 38 pts 4-6 from 3pt range i forgot the final score though lol

  • 2K or Live

    My bad…I meant to write would "not" call time outs or go for 3 ptrs when it made obvious sense to do so.

  • 2K or Live

    My bad…I meant to write would "not" call time outs or go for 3 ptrs when it made obvious sense to do so.

  • Julian Mendoza

    My Friends, LIVE IS OFFICIALLY BACK!

  • Julian Mendoza

    My Friends, LIVE IS OFFICIALLY BACK!

  • pdandy1994

    thats a nice picture of Gerald Wallace. Bobcats new uni's are sick.

  • pdandy1994

    thats a nice picture of Gerald Wallace. Bobcats new uni's are sick.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JasonSGN JasonSGN

    Has EA officially announced a patch to add in the back down mechanic that you mentioned?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      Mike Wang states that it will be part of the patch, they already have a fix in for it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JasonSGN JasonSGN

    Has EA officially announced a patch to add in the back down mechanic that you mentioned?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      Mike Wang states that it will be part of the patch, they already have a fix in for it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Some of Mike Wangs Tweets with regards to the final build of NBA Live and future patch and fixes (he is officially on Twitter) twitter.com/beluba

    @MethoSauRuS live run is the new "clubs". You can play unranked otp with NBA teams if u want
    about 16 hours ago from Twitterrific in reply to MethoSauRuS

    @Real_Nima did u try bumping up the diff? Default is intended to be a dunkfest for the kids.
    about 16 hours ago from Twitterrific in reply to Real_Nima

    @MethoSauRuS yeah more dunks in final, but the demo's hangar is a good representation
    11:16 PM Oct 3rd from Twitterrific in reply to MethoSauRuS

    @Sickn3s19o glad you're diggin Live. The patch will be later. want to cram as many fixes as we can. wanna give more peeps time to feedback
    11:15 PM Oct 3rd from Twitterrific in reply to Sickn3s19o

    @Ronimous mr. santos is looking into the shiny player thing. I've got the postup button fix in and working, lots of other stuff too
    11:50 AM Oct 3rd from Twitterrific in reply to Ronimous

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Some of Mike Wangs Tweets with regards to the final build of NBA Live and future patch and fixes (he is officially on Twitter) twitter.com/beluba

    @MethoSauRuS live run is the new "clubs". You can play unranked otp with NBA teams if u want
    about 16 hours ago from Twitterrific in reply to MethoSauRuS

    @Real_Nima did u try bumping up the diff? Default is intended to be a dunkfest for the kids.
    about 16 hours ago from Twitterrific in reply to Real_Nima

    @MethoSauRuS yeah more dunks in final, but the demo's hangar is a good representation
    11:16 PM Oct 3rd from Twitterrific in reply to MethoSauRuS

    @Sickn3s19o glad you're diggin Live. The patch will be later. want to cram as many fixes as we can. wanna give more peeps time to feedback
    11:15 PM Oct 3rd from Twitterrific in reply to Sickn3s19o

    @Ronimous mr. santos is looking into the shiny player thing. I've got the postup button fix in and working, lots of other stuff too
    11:50 AM Oct 3rd from Twitterrific in reply to Ronimous

  • JDAY

    I sold NBA 2K last year and got Live 09 after playing NBA 2k Since these next gen consoles came out though I played Live on last gen consoles. But I also playe 2k during the dramcast days.

    Anyway Live wasnt better then 2k last year but I wanted a diffrent feel and I wanted a mid range game and not 75 points being scored in the paint. I knew playing Live last year it would be as good as 2k this year.

    I just returned my ps3 last nite to get a wii for my wife. I got fed up with Madden spending hours everyday trying to get a broken game to play less broken. I would of liked to play NBA Live but a few things bother me.

    I dont like theres no back down move on defense. Also dont like no back down post up botton on offense. Makes Big man useless and you cant even dribble in the paint for more then 3 secs without fumbling the ball which is a bandaid fix for scoring in the paint.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      They will have a back down button fix. As for posting up (i know this sucks, but will be fixed) just lightly move your left analog and you'll move into a post up position.

    • Bootzilla

      If u wait the offensive player will post up. If u dribbled in the paint for more than 3 seconds u should be called for a violation. There's also a backdown move on defense where u can move to to the right or left to over play and the right stick to put your hands up defends the post very well. Learn the game and it plays very well.

  • JDAY

    I sold NBA 2K last year and got Live 09 after playing NBA 2k Since these next gen consoles came out though I played Live on last gen consoles. But I also playe 2k during the dramcast days.

    Anyway Live wasnt better then 2k last year but I wanted a diffrent feel and I wanted a mid range game and not 75 points being scored in the paint. I knew playing Live last year it would be as good as 2k this year.

    I just returned my ps3 last nite to get a wii for my wife. I got fed up with Madden spending hours everyday trying to get a broken game to play less broken. I would of liked to play NBA Live but a few things bother me.

    I dont like theres no back down move on defense. Also dont like no back down post up botton on offense. Makes Big man useless and you cant even dribble in the paint for more then 3 secs without fumbling the ball which is a bandaid fix for scoring in the paint.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      They will have a back down button fix. As for posting up (i know this sucks, but will be fixed) just lightly move your left analog and you'll move into a post up position.

    • Bootzilla

      If u wait the offensive player will post up. If u dribbled in the paint for more than 3 seconds u should be called for a violation. There's also a backdown move on defense where u can move to to the right or left to over play and the right stick to put your hands up defends the post very well. Learn the game and it plays very well.

  • bo1508

    2k fans are goin 2 b happy about 2k10 i heard alot of people say if its not broke dont fix it guess what they didnt its da same crap as last year with da same glitches and everything and some new ones 2kfans ya are goin 2 love this game there is some things new updated rosters and trades that 60 and some change is goin 2 b well spent and on that note i will like 2 say have fun on 2k9 part 2 im goin with live 10 its a brand new game from da dirt up

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      The thing is, 2K was broken, but Live was always more broken than 2K. 2K has taken the conservative approach over the last 3 titles, because there was no need to put extra resources in which effect their bottom line. It's almost as if "As long as we are better than Live, then we are good no need to go above and beyond".

      I believe we'll see a huge step up for 2K11 next year.

      • bo1508

        i believe live will step up as well

  • bo1508

    2k fans are goin 2 b happy about 2k10 i heard alot of people say if its not broke dont fix it guess what they didnt its da same crap as last year with da same glitches and everything and some new ones 2kfans ya are goin 2 love this game there is some things new updated rosters and trades that 60 and some change is goin 2 b well spent and on that note i will like 2 say have fun on 2k9 part 2 im goin with live 10 its a brand new game from da dirt up

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

      The thing is, 2K was broken, but Live was always more broken than 2K. 2K has taken the conservative approach over the last 3 titles, because there was no need to put extra resources in which effect their bottom line. It's almost as if "As long as we are better than Live, then we are good no need to go above and beyond".

      I believe we'll see a huge step up for 2K11 next year.

      • bo1508

        i believe live will step up as well

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

    Regarding the high percentages that are being reported in 2K10, has anyone had a chance to experiment with sliders to see if that changes the effectiveness of the made shots? Just interested to see if/how that works.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

    Regarding the high percentages that are being reported in 2K10, has anyone had a chance to experiment with sliders to see if that changes the effectiveness of the made shots? Just interested to see if/how that works.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

    Regarding the high percentages that are being reported in 2K10, has anyone had a chance to experiment with sliders to see if that changes the effectiveness of the made shots? Same for the 'lack' of made shots for 3s in Live? Just interested to see if/how they work in each respective game.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

    Regarding the high percentages that are being reported in 2K10, has anyone had a chance to experiment with sliders to see if that changes the effectiveness of the made shots? Same for the 'lack' of made shots for 3s in Live? Just interested to see if/how they work in each respective game.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

    Regarding the high percentages that are being reported in 2K10, has anyone had a chance to experiment with sliders to see if that changes the effectiveness of the made shots? Same for the 'lack' of made shots for 3s in Live? Just interested to see if/how sliders work in each respective game.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

      Sliders are the worse thing to come to sports video gaming EVER! I used to think it was cool to be able to adjust as needed, but now it just gives the developers a chance to be lazy. Why should we have to waste time tweaking gameplay sliders to make the game play realistically? It should come that way out of the box.

      I've been a 2K guy for a long time, but after looking at the videos it just looks like NBA Live has the sim aspect of baseketball down pat this year. And that's not to mentiont the great atmosphere! I don't feel like having to mess with sliders for hours on end to get the FG percentages down so I'm skipping 2K this year for something new. Hope I don't end up regretting it.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but I like sliders only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play since usually I'm not a candidate to how it comes out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. I'm not a slider developer or 'tweeker,' I'm far from it, LOL. I usually hit the forums and message boards and mooch off of the great ideas others have found that work. :-) To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but the main reason I like sliders is only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play. Especially since I'm usually not a candidate for who it was designed for coming out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. I'm not a slider developer or 'tweeker,' I'm far from it. I usually hit the forums and message boards and mooch off of the great ideas others have found that work. :-) To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but the main reason I like sliders is only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play. Especially since I'm usually not a candidate for who it was designed for coming out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. I'm not a slider developer or 'tweeker,' I'm far from it, LOL. I usually hit the forums and message boards and mooch off of the great ideas others have found that work. :-) To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but the main reason I like sliders is only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play — especially since I'm usually not a candidate for who it was designed for coming out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

          I see your point. But Sliders should be there to adjust the gameplay the way you like it, only if you don't like realistic results. Some like arcade play, some like to run and gun in sports games, some hate to play realistically, and they should have every right to adjust the sliders the way they like.

          But for the gamer who likes a realistic, simlike performance from a game, if the game is going to advertise that it plays realistically, it should be that way out of the box. One thing about Madden that I liked was the "adjust to your ability" skill level, which for me worked quite well this year. I didn't feel like I had to make a bunch of adjustments after every game with sliders and such.

          Anyway, I see your point. But all I have to do is point to MLB: The Show 09 to show a game that got it right out of the box, with no need for sliders, and that's the way it should be. And with your example of NHL 10, it just shows it's possible and games that don't get it right and require slider adjustments to make it realistic (i.e. high FG Pct in NBA 2K10) are inferior to those that don't.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

    Regarding the high percentages that are being reported in 2K10, has anyone had a chance to experiment with sliders to see if that changes the effectiveness of the made shots? Same for the 'lack' of made shots for 3s in Live? Just interested to see if/how sliders work in each respective game.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

      Sliders are the worse thing to come to sports video gaming EVER! I used to think it was cool to be able to adjust as needed, but now it just gives the developers a chance to be lazy. Why should we have to waste time tweaking gameplay sliders to make the game play realistically? It should come that way out of the box.

      I've been a 2K guy for a long time, but after looking at the videos it just looks like NBA Live has the sim aspect of baseketball down pat this year. And that's not to mentiont the great atmosphere! I don't feel like having to mess with sliders for hours on end to get the FG percentages down so I'm skipping 2K this year for something new. Hope I don't end up regretting it.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but I like sliders only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play since usually I'm not a candidate to how it comes out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. I'm not a slider developer or 'tweeker,' I'm far from it. I usually hit the forums and message boards and mooch off of the great ideas others have found that work. :-) To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but the main reason I like sliders is only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play. Especially since I'm usually not a candidate for who it was designed for coming out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. I'm not a slider developer or 'tweeker,' I'm far from it, LOL. I usually hit the forums and message boards and mooch off of the great ideas others have found that work. :-) To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but the main reason I like sliders is only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play. Especially since I'm usually not a candidate for who it was designed for coming out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

      • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

        Mculberson I agree heavily with the sliders portion of your post, but not completely. I'm not a slider developer or 'tweeker,' I'm far from it, LOL. I usually hit the forums and message boards and mooch off of the great ideas others have found that work. :-) To me sliders can seem as much a curse or crutch as they are a gift, but the main reason I like sliders is only because they at least give me an option to play the game the way I like to play — especially since I'm usually not a candidate for who it was designed for coming out of the box.

        I agree that things should just 'work' out of the box, but for the majority of today's options sadly I just can't expect that. For example, Madden 10, if it weren't for sliders in that game I feel that it would have been a total waste of my money because it was just terrible out of the box. Not saying that sliders make the game a game of the year candidate because there are many other issues — but this isn't the place or time for that — but it gave me the ability to make it more enjoyable for ME to play. Now, on the other hand, NHL10 is a prime example of a game that just works out of the box!

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

          I see your point. But Sliders should be there to adjust the gameplay the way you like it, only if you don't like realistic results. Some like arcade play, some like to run and gun in sports games, some hate to play realistically, and they should have every right to adjust the sliders the way they like.

          But for the gamer who likes a realistic, simlike performance from a game, if the game is going to advertise that it plays realistically, it should be that way out of the box. One thing about Madden that I liked was the "adjust to your ability" skill level, which for me worked quite well this year. I didn't feel like I had to make a bunch of adjustments after every game with sliders and such.

          Anyway, I see your point. But all I have to do is point to MLB: The Show 09 to show a game that got it right out of the box, with no need for sliders, and that's the way it should be. And with your example of NHL 10, it just shows it's possible and games that don't get it right and require slider adjustments to make it realistic (i.e. high FG Pct in NBA 2K10) are inferior to those that don't.

  • sdot

    Live atmosphere is NICE!!! but

    AT DA END OF DA DAY 2K GPLAY is jus SO FAR AHEAD of wut Live is TRYIN I MEAN Live TRYIN but

    a wise man once sed

    "NOT YET…..NOT YET

    if ur NOT 1ST ur LAST

    • Josh

      Cosigned! 2K has way more animations than Live. Even when playin the Live demo I noticed some of the same animations over & over. I'm still seeing new animations in 2K9 til this day! So I think Live, eventhough it's a good game this year, will start to feel stale after a few weeks. 2K will keep me playin all year & thats the difference.

      • P-Dawg

        It won't feel stale to me…I can say this because I've played with the same two teams (demo) for a few weeks and I STILL play it 4-5 times a day…and that's the demo…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

      75% shooting in an entire game for both teams is great gameplay? I think not! I've loved 2k basketball for years, and this year is a great game as always, but I think NBA Live got them this year as far as gameplay. At least for those that want to play a realistic game of basketball anyway.

  • sdot

    Live atmosphere is NICE!!! but

    AT DA END OF DA DAY 2K GPLAY is jus SO FAR AHEAD of wut Live is TRYIN I MEAN Live TRYIN but

    a wise man once sed

    "NOT YET…..NOT YET

    if ur NOT 1ST ur LAST

    • Josh

      Cosigned! 2K has way more animations than Live. Even when playin the Live demo I noticed some of the same animations over & over. I'm still seeing new animations in 2K9 til this day! So I think Live, eventhough it's a good game this year, will start to feel stale after a few weeks. 2K will keep me playin all year & thats the difference.

      • P-Dawg

        It won't feel stale to me…I can say this because I've played with the same two teams (demo) for a few weeks and I STILL play it 4-5 times a day…and that's the demo…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

      75% shooting in an entire game for both teams is great gameplay? I think not! I've loved 2k basketball for years, and this year is a great game as always, but I think NBA Live got them this year as far as gameplay. At least for those that want to play a realistic game of basketball anyway.

  • treyyy

    im still suprised noones got on pasta’s case about how in depth he went in on the Live impressions but blew off the 2k ones LMAO guess u live fans scared off all the 2k’anights

    • http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

      look around salewise and word of mouth wise. Live is back Live will probably outsell 2k this year and by looking at it when the dust settle live is the better game this year face it 2k fanboys.

  • treyyy

    im still suprised noones got on pasta’s case about how in depth he went in on the Live impressions but blew off the 2k ones LMAO guess u live fans scared off all the 2k’anights

    • http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

      look around salewise and word of mouth wise. Live is back Live will probably outsell 2k this year and by looking at it when the dust settle live is the better game this year face it 2k fanboys.

  • sdot

    quik note Y?? is da BENCH SOOO OVERLY ANIMATED in Live

    dat vid Pasta put up wit NO vs GS WTF BOTH BENCHES JUS STANDIN UP & CELEBRATIN EVERY BASKET

    like itz da 4TH QT & KOBE is on 1 of THOSE RUNS where he CAN'T MISS

    Live Bench = 2K9 crowd in da Beginin MAD HYPED 4 NO DAMN REASON

    • Bootzilla

      Umm they have different settings for regular season, playoff. and finals with the crowds and benches acting accordingly.

  • sdot

    quik note Y?? is da BENCH SOOO OVERLY ANIMATED in Live

    dat vid Pasta put up wit NO vs GS WTF BOTH BENCHES JUS STANDIN UP & CELEBRATIN EVERY BASKET

    like itz da 4TH QT & KOBE is on 1 of THOSE RUNS where he CAN'T MISS

    Live Bench = 2K9 crowd in da Beginin MAD HYPED 4 NO DAMN REASON

    • Bootzilla

      Umm they have different settings for regular season, playoff. and finals with the crowds and benches acting accordingly.

  • treyyy

    @Pharrell1 idk killa ive heard mixed reviews and considering Live10 made a hell of a jump n the ratings (8.2) but still 2k10 got (9.1) so….ur theory isnt quiet right. Still time left though LOL

    • Tuna

      where did u get this review score? i have yet to see a 2k10 review. I'm looking but can't find any so back up your source.

  • treyyy

    @Pharrell1 idk killa ive heard mixed reviews and considering Live10 made a hell of a jump n the ratings (8.2) but still 2k10 got (9.1) so….ur theory isnt quiet right. Still time left though LOL

    • Tuna

      where did u get this review score? i have yet to see a 2k10 review. I'm looking but can't find any so back up your source.

  • BLACKFLAGZ10

    this must have been love at first site for you uh pasta? lol FANBOT!

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take of the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As a prior 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the spelling. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take of the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As a prior 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take off the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As a prior 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take off the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As an exclusive 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take off the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As an exclusive 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other.

    • Flanny

      the only fanboy here is you. sad

  • BLACKFLAGZ10

    this must have been love at first site for you uh pasta? lol FANBOT!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the spelling. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take of the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As a prior 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take of the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As a prior 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take off the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As a prior 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take off the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As an exclusive 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other to help

    • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/65South 65South

      What an idiot…and I'm not even referring to the grammar. I just don't get the ppl who continue to call Pasta a fanboy? It's not like he's telling anyone to pick one over the other. Maybe it's the readers and not the writer that needs to take off the 2K or Live tinted glasses.

      As an exclusive 2K owner, I've come to the site to read both of his impressions on Live and NBA2k with an open mind and I think he's been objective in his reporting of both. If you don't like his writing or analysis then you don't have to visit 'his' site or read 'his' work. There are plenty of other options available out on the internet. Just find the one that tells you what you want to hear and stick to that one. In the meantime I'll continue to read his impressions that offer the good and bad views of both games and has no allegiance to one or the other.

    • Flanny

      the only fanboy here is you. sad

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jcoo9 Jermaine E. Cooper

    I grew up a big NBA Live fan but I switched over to 2k at 2k7. I have been very disappointed in live the last 4 years, but it looks like they have finally produced a dilemma for everybody. The lack of demo and lack of change in the 2k series is hurting. One thing I can tell from playing the Live demo and 2k combine, Live seems to have the edge in fun. I do enjoy the realistic sim style of 2k, but the fun factor and control freedom needs to be changed. Live is definitely on the right track. When is the last time we had a "real" dilemma about what game to buy?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jste Jste

      Its definately a welcome change. This is what happens when you have two companies pushing eachother and you give people choice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Jcoo9 Jermaine E. Cooper

    I grew up a big NBA Live fan but I switched over to 2k at 2k7. I have been very disappointed in live the last 4 years, but it looks like they have finally produced a dilemma for everybody. The lack of demo and lack of change in the 2k series is hurting. One thing I can tell from playing the Live demo and 2k combine, Live seems to have the edge in fun. I do enjoy the realistic sim style of 2k, but the fun factor and control freedom needs to be changed. Live is definitely on the right track. When is the last time we had a "real" dilemma about what game to buy?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jste Jste

      Its definately a welcome change. This is what happens when you have two companies pushing eachother and you give people choice.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    I gave him a thumb down for the poor grammar.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jste Jste

      Lmao

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    I gave him a thumb down for the poor grammar.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jste Jste

      Lmao

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

    It's NBA Live 10 for me this year. First time EVER! Hope I don't end up regretting it. So far all the videos have been great for both. I just like the way Live plays this year. And the atmophere is out of this world. I'm bored with 2k basketball. Same ol same ol every year. It's not a bad thing, just lazy. They let Live catch up and now Live actually plays more like a sim than 2K. Who would have thunk it?

    And for all you out there that knock Live (which I've done for years cause they've deserved it) it's time to stop making statements about past Live games because this one is off the hook! And this is coming from longtime 2K basketball fan. Can't wait until tomorrow!

    Peace

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

    It's NBA Live 10 for me this year. First time EVER! Hope I don't end up regretting it. So far all the videos have been great for both. I just like the way Live plays this year. And the atmosphere is out of this world. I'm bored with 2k basketball. Same ol same ol every year. It's not a bad thing, just lazy. They let Live catch up and now Live actually plays more like a sim than 2K. Who would have thunk it?

    And for all you out there that knock Live (which I've done for years cause they've deserved it) it's time to stop making statements about past Live games because this one is off the hook! And this is coming from longtime 2K basketball fan. Can't wait until tomorrow!

    Peace

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

      #1 you didn't play the final 2k build yet, and #2 you used to slam live now knowone else can, ever heard of a hypocrite?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

        If you actually read my post, you would see I was knocking people for saying things about Live based on past games, not this year's version. So hypocrite doesn't make sense there, buddy. I never said there was anything wrong with bashing the game, just bashing NBA Live 10 based on NBA Live 09 is ridiculous. I think both games look great, so get over it dude. Read before replying and what your point of calling me a hypocrite is I will never know. Perhaps you might provide something to the board that is constructive someday.

        Thanks for playing.

        Peace

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

          Go fish.— On Mon, 10/5/09, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

    It's NBA Live 10 for me this year. First time EVER! Hope I don't end up regretting it. So far all the videos have been great for both. I just like the way Live plays this year. And the atmophere is out of this world. I'm bored with 2k basketball. Same ol same ol every year. It's not a bad thing, just lazy. They let Live catch up and now Live actually plays more like a sim than 2K. Who would have thunk it?

    And for all you out there that knock Live (which I've done for years cause they've deserved it) it's time to stop making statements about past Live games because this one is off the hook! And this is coming from longtime 2K basketball fan. Can't wait until tomorrow!

    Peace

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

    It's NBA Live 10 for me this year. First time EVER! Hope I don't end up regretting it. So far all the videos have been great for both. I just like the way Live plays this year. And the atmosphere is out of this world. I'm bored with 2k basketball. Same ol same ol every year. It's not a bad thing, just lazy. They let Live catch up and now Live actually plays more like a sim than 2K. Who would have thunk it?

    And for all you out there that knock Live (which I've done for years cause they've deserved it) it's time to stop making statements about past Live games because this one is off the hook! And this is coming from longtime 2K basketball fan. Can't wait until tomorrow!

    Peace

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

      #1 you didn't play the final 2k build yet, and #2 you used to slam live now knowone else can, ever heard of a hypocrite?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/mculberson mculberson

        If you actually read my post, you would see I was knocking people for saying things about Live based on past games, not this year's version. So hypocrite doesn't make sense there, buddy. I never said there was anything wrong with bashing the game, just bashing NBA Live 10 based on NBA Live 09 is ridiculous. I think both games look great, so get over it dude. Read before replying and what your point of calling me a hypocrite is I will never know. Perhaps you might provide something to the board that is constructive someday.

        Thanks for playing.

        Peace

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

          Go fish.

          — On Mon, 10/5/09, IntenseDebate Notifications <notifications@intensedebatemail.com> wrote:

  • http://twitter.com/shogunoflive @shogunoflive

    So far im digging Live 10, though I have seen a couple of the issues pasta mentioned such as a loose ball with nobody reacting to it …Though I must thru 4-5 games i only seen that once. I also agree with Pasta about playing one on one defense, it was actually easier to stick with your man in last years game.. However I learned that one that could help is using the defense assist button to keep your man in position

  • http://twitter.com/shogunoflive @shogunoflive

    So far im digging Live 10, though I have seen a couple of the issues pasta mentioned such as a loose ball with nobody reacting to it …Though I must thru 4-5 games i only seen that once. I also agree with Pasta about playing one on one defense, it was actually easier to stick with your man in last years game.. However I learned that one that could help is using the defense assist button to keep your man in position

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