NBA 2K10 Online Impressions

by pastapadre
Posted October 12th, 2009 at 10:10 am

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As the popularity of the NBA 2K franchise has risen the online performance has taken a sharp decline in its wake. Last year the Team Up mode was introduced however it was never able to consistently handle the load of multiple users being connected into one online game. With NBA 2K10 it has now been five days and online is still completely unreliable and some modes aren’t even functional.

If there is one thing I’ve always pushed for on the site it is companies living up to their promises and delivering on advertised features. That has been the case in the past with articles on MLB The Show’s terrible online performance, Tiger Woods “Photo Face” not working at launch, and Madden touting “Maddenoliday” only to have unplayable online on that very day.

Not delivering with the online play certainly qualifies as such. I’ve had difficulty building these online impressions because of the inability to get games in. However after providing ample time to fix what could have been early hiccups and knowing last year’s was never completely addressed online is what it is and that is important to discuss.

Over the last 6 days I have been able to complete two ranked games and one Team-Up game. Other attempts have resulted in “refer to the FAQ” or “network conditions too poor” or “network problem prevents continuing”. The servers have been completely down in many instances and there is a decent chance they would be even be as you read this.

2K did change up the way you can get into online games, either through the menu system or right from the game match-up screen. It’s probably more convenient but also has led to some confusion since there is no one central area for all online activities.

There have been some reports of immense lag when actually being able to play in the online games. In my handful of experiences the lag has been slight. Noticeable but not debilitating to gameplay. The Team-Up game was with six online users lag was at least manageable unlike most that I tried with 2K9. With such a limited sample it’s difficult to fully judge performance especially given the inconsistency of the servers.

Specifically on the PS3 the server seems to be freezing the consoles for some when searching for games or when being dropped out of them. Not sure how widespread this is but multiple reports out there of it happening.

The framerate problems seen prominently offline are also felt online. Not only do you have to account for the lag, but any time the action gets cluttered such as in the paint going for a rebound there is noticeable slowdown.

From what I’ve been able to gather, when the servers are actually up and running the Team-Up games seem to be maxed out at six or seven users. Eight or above attempting to play will cause the game to disconnect right at the start. This is a feature that is most enjoyable when every player is user-controlled but that was not possible last year nor does it appear it will be this year.

Team-Up feels a lot like My Player mode because it uses the same grading system, which as everyone knows has its good points and bad. At one point I was randomly hit with like five excessive calling for the ball when I had never even pressed the button once. It also basically prevents your team from playing zone because no one wants to leave their guy for any reason when they could score and that results in the detraction for allowing it.

It seems that in Team-Up/Pick-Up games only the point guard has the ability to make substitutions. This can be a big problem. With turbo affecting stamina so harshly if you don’t have someone at PG on the mic or willing to make smart subs then you’re stuck.

The stamina does appear to run down a little too quickly. I have consciously been very conservative with the turbo yet find my player drained. Subs would have to be done multiple times in a game which may not happen due to only the PG being able to and even if they were it interrupts the flow of the game when people just want to play. It should probably be toned down a little in an upcoming patch.

There is a known glitch, previously reported over on OS, that affects the Team-Up games. I don’t know if this has been seen since as I’ve yet to come across anyone has been able to play a full Team-Up game.

Most disappointing all this is I actually find the gameplay of NBA 2K10 to be ideally suited to the Team-Up experience. The slower pace and turbo limitations lend itself well to that.

So while those modes online have not been working it does seem that regular ranked games are becoming more available for people to compete in. Certainly it isn’t as consistent as it needs to be though.

In NBA 2K10 there have been a few additions to the online feature set. That includes creating “Crews” for Team-Up games and track the records and stats. There is also the ability to take your My Player online and play Pick-Up games using them or NBA players. Sadly no one has yet been able to do these things because of the server issues.

The leagues appear to be similarly structured with the fantastic website which is a shining example of how they should be done. Last year there were some problems with leagues but right now with the server issues they have not been functional so it’s unknown how 2K10′s have shaped up. They aren’t online dynasties which is the natural evolution that really needs to be made soon as leagues are feeling like a thing of the past.

When your opponent pauses you’ll see their menu screen before being blocked from seeing what changes they make. They still haven’t made it possible for both sides to make changes at the same time which is frustrating. Changes must be made for each game, so if you prefer a certain camera angle you can’t set that to be your default and have that carry over.

The NBA Today feature also seems to be affected by the online problems and has not been working at times. Even uploading screenshots and highlight videos have been a crapshoot as they may never actually appear. You’ll see some other oddities from offline that happen online, such as the refs never getting the ball set for play. May have to burn a timeout to get past that or wait it out and maybe they’ll stop passing back and forth with the inbounder or whatever the situation is.

As to the two ranked games I completed, the wins still have not registered and at this point I’m thinking they never will. It seems that many wins are not being recorded for people which again seems to be tied to the servers.

There are no replays or highlights available after the game which is a disappointment. I always enjoy watching them after games and there will always be cool events that you want to see again or save from the online games but won’t be able to.

One has to wonder if the rate that 2K10 contacts the servers is creating some of the problems. When you start up 2K10 it attempts to find updates to the Living Rosters, player progression and NBA Today. After every My Player mode game or drill it contacts the server to update your information. That must be taxing in some regard and adds an annoyance in constant failure messages when the server goes down.

Consumers are showing dissatisfaction over the matter in the 2K forum, on Twitter, and elsewhere. Whether it results in a loss of sales this year or (more likely) next year we won’t know for some time. Unfortunately it just appears that 2K Sports does not have the resources to provide the proper online experience for such a popular game.

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Tanner

I already returned 2k10 couldnt take the framerate gave me a headache not to mention that online didnt work.
Tanner

I already returned 2k10 couldnt take the framerate gave me a headache not to mention that online didnt work.

John

Before careful not to say anything too bad about live, you just might get a negative thumbs down. LMAO

*You've Been Warned*

http://twitter.com/keem513 @keem513

lol and you got threee thumbs down for it lol

Macarthur

hehehe and you get one thumbs down for it hehehe
Macarthur

hehehe and you get one thumbs down for it hehehe

http://twitter.com/keem513 @keem513

lol and you got threee thumbs down for it lol

John

Before careful not to say anything too bad about live, you just might get a negative thumbs down. LMAO

*You've Been Warned*

Tanner

I already returned 2k10 couldnt take the framerate gave me a headache not to mention that online didnt work.
Tanner

I already returned 2k10 couldnt take the framerate gave me a headache not to mention that online didnt work.

John

Before careful not to say anything too bad about live, you just might get a negative thumbs down. LMAO

*You've Been Warned*

http://twitter.com/keem513 @keem513

lol and you got threee thumbs down for it lol

Macarthur

hehehe and you get one thumbs down for it hehehe

1-1-4

I can't say enough how much we appreciate your writing about topics like this Pasta. No other websites will stand up for gamers because they're too worried that the companies will take away their access it seems. And we can't even complain on the 2K forum without getting banned.

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Wow you get banned for complaining on the 2K site, thats shitty.
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Wow you get banned for complaining on the 2K site, thats shitty.

1-1-4

I can't say enough how much we appreciate your writing about topics like this Pasta. No other websites will stand up for gamers because they're too worried that the companies will take away their access it seems. And we can't even complain on the 2K forum without getting banned.
1-1-4

I can't say enough how much we appreciate your writing about topics like this Pasta. No other websites will stand up for gamers because they're too worried that the companies will take away their access it seems. And we can't even complain on the 2K forum without getting banned.
1-1-4

I can't say enough how much we appreciate your writing about topics like this Pasta. No other websites will stand up for gamers because they're too worried that the companies will take away their access it seems. And we can't even complain on the 2K forum without getting banned.

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Wow you get banned for complaining on the 2K site, thats shitty.

mark-nis

just shut the hell up and play the game. all i ever hear is people bashing 2k. these ea fanboys are annoying as hell, including you pasta. i am not a fanboy of either so don't try to reply with that. i own both live 10 and 2k10 and i think 2k is better. just play the game and stop picking it apart the way other losers pick apart madden. if anyone wants to sit around and pick apart a game all day it should be madden if any, because people already do. by the way i own that game as well.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

Having functional online play is not "picking it apart". Either the mode works as advertised or it doesn't. Games are purchased with the expectation that the advertised features will work.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

Having functional online play is not "picking it apart". Either the mode works as advertised or it doesn't. Games are purchased with the expectation that the advertised features will work.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

Having functional online play is not "picking it apart". Either the mode works as advertised or it doesn't. Games are purchased with the expectation that the advertised features will work.
http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

lol u mad?

sergio

at ya iq results
sergio

at ya iq results

http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

lol u mad?
http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

lol u mad?
Bee Rockwell

You are on a video game blog commenting about someone picking a game apart.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. You are both black.
Bee Rockwell

You are on a video game blog commenting about someone picking a game apart.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. You are both black.
Bee Rockwell

You are on a video game blog commenting about someone picking a game apart.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. You are both black.
swag

wow are you retarted? Imagine if you bought a game called Michael Jordan dunk off and then when you go to play it you find out M.J isnt even in the game?

when someone advertises something they should at the very least have what they say it does in a working manner. 2k's online works 1 out of 50 times literally
swag

wow are you retarted? Imagine if you bought a game called Michael Jordan dunk off and then when you go to play it you find out M.J isnt even in the game?

when someone advertises something they should at the very least have what they say it does in a working manner. 2k's online works 1 out of 50 times literally
Troy

you sound like the loser. talking about how people sit around all day when you're doing the same thing by just looking for people to bash. pasta has a legit reason to be pissed as do i when gaming companies say it's the "best" nba game on the market and consumers spend $60 on it just to find out the online doesn't work and the game itself doesn't deliver on what it says it will. what are you tryin to sound cool cuz you own nba live and madden as well???? F off prick

mark-nis

troy you are the little prick. i'm not trying to sound cool or nothing like that. my point is that it is just a game, and when i try to play the game, no matter what mode, it works for me. i have played online many times in many different modes. i just get annoyed how all i hear is that nothing works in 2k or madden. there are many games that are much worse and many aspects of all games that don't work from time to time, especially with something as unreliable as the internet. if you don't like the way the game plays or responds, don't play it. it has worked for me. and by the way troy if i wanted to to sound cool, i wouldn't posting any of this crap on a damn video game site. sounds like you are the one who is truly upset. the only thing i care about is sports and i hate everyone always bashing all the sports games.

reemo

U say u played in many diffrent modes well go to my player mode then play now then pick up games I bet the game won last more than 6 seconds if that we spent 60 bucks no I got the gold edition so 100 bucks and the mode that is the biggest selling point dosent work MARK-NIS WAKE UP people are going to sale u (or your mom) crap and ur just gonna say this isn't what I paid for but I will deal with it any way urrrrrrrrr slowwwwwww dudeeeeeeee

mark-nis

just shut the hell up and play the game. all i ever hear is people bashing 2k. these ea fanboys are annoying as hell, including you pasta. i am not a fanboy of either so don't try to reply with that. i own both live 10 and 2k10 and i think 2k is better. just play the game and stop picking it apart the way other losers pick apart madden. if anyone wants to sit around and pick apart a game all day it should be madden if any, because people already do. by the way i own that game as well.
mark-nis

just shut the hell up and play the game. all i ever hear is people bashing 2k. these ea fanboys are annoying as hell, including you pasta. i am not a fanboy of either so don't try to reply with that. i own both live 10 and 2k10 and i think 2k is better. just play the game and stop picking it apart the way other losers pick apart madden. if anyone wants to sit around and pick apart a game all day it should be madden if any, because people already do. by the way i own that game as well.
mark-nis

just shut the hell up and play the game. all i ever hear is people bashing 2k. these ea fanboys are annoying as hell, including you pasta. i am not a fanboy of either so don't try to reply with that. i own both live 10 and 2k10 and i think 2k is better. just play the game and stop picking it apart the way other losers pick apart madden. if anyone wants to sit around and pick apart a game all day it should be madden if any, because people already do. by the way i own that game as well.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

Having functional online play is not "picking it apart". Either the mode works as advertised or it doesn't. Games are purchased with the expectation that the advertised features will work.
http://twitter.com/Pharrell1 @Pharrell1

lol u mad?

sergio

at ya iq results

Bee Rockwell

You are on a video game blog commenting about someone picking a game apart.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. You are both black.
swag

wow are you retarted? Imagine if you bought a game called Michael Jordan dunk off and then when you go to play it you find out M.J isnt even in the game?

when someone advertises something they should at the very least have what they say it does in a working manner. 2k's online works 1 out of 50 times literally
Troy

you sound like the loser. talking about how people sit around all day when you're doing the same thing by just looking for people to bash. pasta has a legit reason to be pissed as do i when gaming companies say it's the "best" nba game on the market and consumers spend $60 on it just to find out the online doesn't work and the game itself doesn't deliver on what it says it will. what are you tryin to sound cool cuz you own nba live and madden as well???? F off prick

mark-nis

troy you are the little prick. i'm not trying to sound cool or nothing like that. my point is that it is just a game, and when i try to play the game, no matter what mode, it works for me. i have played online many times in many different modes. i just get annoyed how all i hear is that nothing works in 2k or madden. there are many games that are much worse and many aspects of all games that don't work from time to time, especially with something as unreliable as the internet. if you don't like the way the game plays or responds, don't play it. it has worked for me. and by the way troy if i wanted to to sound cool, i wouldn't posting any of this crap on a damn video game site. sounds like you are the one who is truly upset. the only thing i care about is sports and i hate everyone always bashing all the sports games.

reemo

U say u played in many diffrent modes well go to my player mode then play now then pick up games I bet the game won last more than 6 seconds if that we spent 60 bucks no I got the gold edition so 100 bucks and the mode that is the biggest selling point dosent work MARK-NIS WAKE UP people are going to sale u (or your mom) crap and ur just gonna say this isn't what I paid for but I will deal with it any way urrrrrrrrr slowwwwwww dudeeeeeeee

http://twitter.com/ediddy999 @ediddy999

I am not a EA fanboy I think that NBA Live has been 2nd best for years, but I have to agree with this article. I have tried to play online games and to no avail. It is pretty dissapointing that 2K which I love just can't get the online right. We have every right to complain if we don't like it, just like you did on this article. I have been having a great time with the sigle player modes, but if this is what I will continue to get with the online, it may be time to give Live another chance.
http://twitter.com/ediddy999 @ediddy999

I am not a EA fanboy I think that NBA Live has been 2nd best for years, but I have to agree with this article. I have tried to play online games and to no avail. It is pretty dissapointing that 2K which I love just can't get the online right. We have every right to complain if we don't like it, just like you did on this article. I have been having a great time with the sigle player modes, but if this is what I will continue to get with the online, it may be time to give Live another chance.
http://twitter.com/ediddy999 @ediddy999

I am not a EA fanboy I think that NBA Live has been 2nd best for years, but I have to agree with this article. I have tried to play online games and to no avail. It is pretty dissapointing that 2K which I love just can't get the online right. We have every right to complain if we don't like it, just like you did on this article. I have been having a great time with the sigle player modes, but if this is what I will continue to get with the online, it may be time to give Live another chance.
http://twitter.com/ediddy999 @ediddy999

I am not a EA fanboy I think that NBA Live has been 2nd best for years, but I have to agree with this article. I have tried to play online games and to no avail. It is pretty dissapointing that 2K which I love just can't get the online right. We have every right to complain if we don't like it, just like you did on this article. I have been having a great time with the sigle player modes, but if this is what I will continue to get with the online, it may be time to give Live another chance.
http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

What's happened to 2K Sports? I mean, first we had the debacle that was MLB 2K9…and now NBA 2K10 has terrible framerate issues and is essentially unplayable online? They used to push EA to be great. Now, it seems they are falling off big time.
http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

What's happened to 2K Sports? I mean, first we had the debacle that was MLB 2K9…and now NBA 2K10 has terrible framerate issues and is essentially unplayable online? They used to push EA to be great. Now, it seems they are falling off big time.
http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

What's happened to 2K Sports? I mean, first we had the debacle that was MLB 2K9…and now NBA 2K10 has terrible framerate issues and is essentially unplayable online? They used to push EA to be great. Now, it seems they are falling off big time.
http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

What's happened to 2K Sports? I mean, first we had the debacle that was MLB 2K9…and now NBA 2K10 has terrible framerate issues and is essentially unplayable online? They used to push EA to be great. Now, it seems they are falling off big time.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

What's happened to 2K Sports? I mean, first we had the debacle that was MLB 2K9…and now NBA 2K10 has terrible framerate issues and is essentially unplayable online? They used to push EA to be great. Now, it seems they are falling off big time.

The only game 2K could bank on year after year is its NBA game… looks like Live is closing that gap as well.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

What's happened to 2K Sports? I mean, first we had the debacle that was MLB 2K9…and now NBA 2K10 has terrible framerate issues and is essentially unplayable online? They used to push EA to be great. Now, it seems they are falling off big time.

The only game 2K could bank on year after year is its NBA game… looks like Live is closing that gap as well.
http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's association (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

BTW I wouldn't put the Tiburon online performance on the same level as EA Canada's. Tiburon's (NCAA and Madden) have gotten a lot better but aren't perfect. EAC's (NHL, FIFA, Live) are practically perfect the majority of the time.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

BTW I wouldn't put the Tiburon online performance on the same level as EA Canada's. Tiburon's (NCAA and Madden) have gotten a lot better but aren't perfect. EAC's (NHL, FIFA, Live) are practically perfect the majority of the time.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

BTW I wouldn't put the Tiburon online performance on the same level as EA Canada's. Tiburon's (NCAA and Madden) have gotten a lot better but aren't perfect. EAC's (NHL, FIFA, Live) are practically perfect the majority of the time.

http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's association (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's association (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's association (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

BTW I wouldn't put the Tiburon online performance on the same level as EA Canada's. Tiburon's (NCAA and Madden) have gotten a lot better but aren't perfect. EAC's (NHL, FIFA, Live) are practically perfect the majority of the time.

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame.

Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame.

Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame.

Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame. Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/DrLogic DrLogic

2k really needs to step up their server game. If they had legit servers on par with EA, which are barely better (i've had enough NCAA 10 OD games dropped to say that,) their would absolutely be no question as to which is the better basketball videogame.

Having said that, NBA 2K10's Association mode (offline) and My Player mode (offline) are gonna keep me busy for quite a while anyway. With so much meat on the bone, I honestly have no problem waiting for the fix's & patches to roll out.
OutaLine

really good post on 2k's forum i thought summed it up nice

http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=276…

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

yeah but when the majority of their fan base has barely any standards they don't have to improve, they just slap a #1 sticker on the box and it's a done deal for most.
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

yeah but when the majority of their fan base has barely any standards they don't have to improve, they just slap a #1 sticker on the box and it's a done deal for most.

OutaLine

really good post on 2k's forum i thought summed it up nice

http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showpost.php?p=276…

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

yeah but when the majority of their fan base has barely any standards they don't have to improve, they just slap a #1 sticker on the box and it's a done deal for most.

smokez4dayz

Ps3 2k10 has had some lag, but we have played games with little or no lag, I'm in nyc with a cable modem. 2k10 360 is fine, a sweet connection. it isn't as bad as pasta says. Nba live online is smoother, but not the better feel, guys are turbo cheesing in live 10, and every minute its the Cavs or Orlando. I think lag depends on where you at in the u.s. how many more of these 2k bashing rants pasta? Live online impression reads like a love fest…there is nothing you wouldn't change in live 10? Really? So no need for live 11, I assume live 10.5 is next right? Read twitter, guys and girls tweet about 2k10 not live 10. Stop pasta, you can't change sales and popularity by yourself. EA commends you but its fake, go play facebreaker….
smokez4dayz

Ps3 2k10 has had some lag, but we have played games with little or no lag, I'm in nyc with a cable modem. 2k10 360 is fine, a sweet connection. it isn't as bad as pasta says. Nba live online is smoother, but not the better feel, guys are turbo cheesing in live 10, and every minute its the Cavs or Orlando. I think lag depends on where you at in the u.s. how many more of these 2k bashing rants pasta? Live online impression reads like a love fest…there is nothing you wouldn't change in live 10? Really? So no need for live 11, I assume live 10.5 is next right? Read twitter, guys and girls tweet about 2k10 not live 10. Stop pasta, you can't change sales and popularity by yourself. EA commends you but its fake, go play facebreaker….
smokez4dayz

Ps3 2k10 has had some lag, but we have played games with little or no lag, I'm in nyc with a cable modem. 2k10 360 is fine, a sweet connection. it isn't as bad as pasta says. Nba live online is smoother, but not the better feel, guys are turbo cheesing in live 10, and every minute its the Cavs or Orlando. I think lag depends on where you at in the u.s. how many more of these 2k bashing rants pasta? Live online impression reads like a love fest…there is nothing you wouldn't change in live 10? Really? So no need for live 11, I assume live 10.5 is next right? Read twitter, guys and girls tweet about 2k10 not live 10. Stop pasta, you can't change sales and popularity by yourself. EA commends you but its fake, go play facebreaker….
smokez4dayz

Ps3 2k10 has had some lag, but we have played games with little or no lag, I'm in nyc with a cable modem. 2k10 360 is fine, a sweet connection. it isn't as bad as pasta says. Nba live online is smoother, but not the better feel, guys are turbo cheesing in live 10, and every minute its the Cavs or Orlando. I think lag depends on where you at in the u.s. how many more of these 2k bashing rants pasta? Live online impression reads like a love fest…there is nothing you wouldn't change in live 10? Really? So no need for live 11, I assume live 10.5 is next right? Read twitter, guys and girls tweet about 2k10 not live 10. Stop pasta, you can't change sales and popularity by yourself. EA commends you but its fake, go play facebreaker….
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

A couple of days ago, Pasta you posted about issues with 2K and then posted about Lives patch, even though 2K has indicated they have a patch in the works as well with a list of items on their forums (miss this did you?). An unbiased approach would have been to say both companies have patches in the works to address various issues with both games.

Having worked for 'MaddenNation.com', it's hard for any reader to think Pasta is truly unbiased. The fact that Pasta always lead with negativity towards 2K and throws in token props, where as he leads with positiveness towards EA while glossing over issues with their game. This is especially true in head to head game when there's $$$ on the line between the two companies. It will be interesting to see where Pasta's main source of income comes if the law gets passed that all bloggers of products / services are required to publish any money / incentives they receive from the company's whose products they are 'reviewing'. Odds are there's a nice little revenue stream coming from EA direct.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will be addressed. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will be addressed. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will be addressed. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not (such a patch would take months). At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not (such a patch would take months). At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not (such a patch would take months). At this point a potential patch is still a month or more away and does nothing to change the current situation.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

Of course a patch is in the works, yet you never stated that in your previous posts which focused on 2K issues and EAs patch. You don't have a clue about how long away a patch is Pasta. Not a clue.
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

Of course a patch is in the works, yet you never stated that in your previous posts which focused on 2K issues and EAs patch. You don't have a clue about how long away a patch is Pasta. Not a clue.

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not (such a patch would take months). At this point a potential patch is still a month or more away and does nothing to change the current situation.
http://intensedebate.com/people/kbomb1upc kbomb1upc

Why do people want to hate on Pasta for telling to truth? Everyone who plays 2K online will tell you the same thing… The online modes are broken and lag is very bad. 2K servers have been bad for the last 3 years and they have done nothing to fix it. Pasta has flamed EA many of times for not stepping up to the plate about lagging issues. Servers should have been their top priority with a game that plays so well offline instead of the My Player crap and trying to milk an extra 5 dollars out of people.

You can also ask anyone that has played Live and they will tell you that online is fun. The gameplay still has its share of issues but at least EA has stepped up to the plate and fixed some nagging issues. If you don't like Live cool, but don't try to call someone out for giving you the facts.
http://intensedebate.com/people/kbomb1upc kbomb1upc

Why do people want to hate on Pasta for telling to truth? Everyone who plays 2K online will tell you the same thing… The online modes are broken and lag is very bad. 2K servers have been bad for the last 3 years and they have done nothing to fix it. Pasta has flamed EA many of times for not stepping up to the plate about lagging issues. Servers should have been their top priority with a game that plays so well offline instead of the My Player crap and trying to milk an extra 5 dollars out of people.

You can also ask anyone that has played Live and they will tell you that online is fun. The gameplay still has its share of issues but at least EA has stepped up to the plate and fixed some nagging issues. If you don't like Live cool, but don't try to call someone out for giving you the facts.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

Absolutely nothing wrong with telling the truth. Only issue I have is that Pasta is not unbiased. He worked for MaddenNation.com, has extremely close ties with EA, and constantly writes write negative stories with buried positives about 2K and Positive stories with buried negatives about EA. As I said before, several days ago he had a post about issues with 2K's game, and posts about the patch for EAs. He could have lead with a story about issues with both games and a patch being available soon for both. That would have been the unbiased way to write the story.
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

Absolutely nothing wrong with telling the truth. Only issue I have is that Pasta is not unbiased. He worked for MaddenNation.com, has extremely close ties with EA, and constantly writes write negative stories with buried positives about 2K and Positive stories with buried negatives about EA. As I said before, several days ago he had a post about issues with 2K's game, and posts about the patch for EAs. He could have lead with a story about issues with both games and a patch being available soon for both. That would have been the unbiased way to write the story.

t daley

Delusional 2k fanboy yet again playing the Pasta/EA bias card. Oh! how original. PP is about as unbiased as they come and he will substantiate any claim that he makes towards a game and is reviews are easily distiguishable between Fact and Personal Preference.

When will 2k fanboys come to your senses and realize what 2k is doing. Wake up people and realize you have aligned yourselves with a sinking ship. One by one 2k has destroyed franchises that were once dominant. Both the NHL and MLB franchises were arguably the best of the best, now they are a broken down mess not even worth playing.

NBA 2k series is relying on reputation to peddle its broken software and you drones lap it up readily. It is funny how you minimalize small things like "frame rate" and a "functional online" game play. These are major flaws in this game and the mere suggestion that these will be fixed in an imaginary patch is rediculous. All 2k has to say is there is a patch in the works and you all drink the Koolaid again. 2kfanboy=SUCKERS.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

You're right. The MaddenNation.com and close ties with EA mean nothing. The fact that articles regarding EA titles lead with positives and bury the negatives mean nothing. The fact that articles on 2K titles lead with negatives and bury the positives mean nothing. If you're looking for a delusional card, I suggest you check yours at the door.

I would continue focusing on logical, factual points, but your sentiment in general and your closing paragraph based on pure conjecture and true fan boyism clearly display that logic has no place with you.
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

You're right. The MaddenNation.com and close ties with EA mean nothing. The fact that articles regarding EA titles lead with positives and bury the negatives mean nothing. The fact that articles on 2K titles lead with negatives and bury the positives mean nothing. If you're looking for a delusional card, I suggest you check yours at the door.

I would continue focusing on logical, factual points, but your sentiment in general and your closing paragraph based on pure conjecture and true fan boyism clearly display that logic has no place with you.

t daley

Delusional 2k fanboy yet again playing the Pasta/EA bias card. Oh! how original. PP is about as unbiased as they come and he will substantiate any claim that he makes towards a game and is reviews are easily distiguishable between Fact and Personal Preference.

When will 2k fanboys come to your senses and realize what 2k is doing. Wake up people and realize you have aligned yourselves with a sinking ship. One by one 2k has destroyed franchises that were once dominant. Both the NHL and MLB franchises were arguably the best of the best, now they are a broken down mess not even worth playing.

NBA 2k series is relying on reputation to peddle its broken software and you drones lap it up readily. It is funny how you minimalize small things like "frame rate" and a "functional online" game play. These are major flaws in this game and the mere suggestion that these will be fixed in an imaginary patch is rediculous. All 2k has to say is there is a patch in the works and you all drink the Koolaid again. 2kfanboy=SUCKERS.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

A couple of days ago, Pasta you posted about issues with 2K and then posted about Lives patch, even though 2K has indicated they have a patch in the works as well with a list of items on their forums (miss this did you?). An unbiased approach would have been to say both companies have patches in the works to address various issues with both games.

Having worked for 'MaddenNation.com', it's hard for any reader to think Pasta is truly unbiased. The fact that Pasta always lead with negativity towards 2K and throws in token props, where as he leads with positiveness towards EA while glossing over issues with their game. This is especially true in head to head game when there's $$$ on the line between the two companies. It will be interesting to see where Pasta's main source of income comes if the law gets passed that all bloggers of products / services are required to publish any money / incentives they receive from the company's whose products they are 'reviewing'. Odds are there's a nice little revenue stream coming from EA direct.
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

A couple of days ago, Pasta you posted about issues with 2K and then posted about Lives patch, even though 2K has indicated they have a patch in the works as well with a list of items on their forums (miss this did you?). An unbiased approach would have been to say both companies have patches in the works to address various issues with both games.

Having worked for 'MaddenNation.com', it's hard for any reader to think Pasta is truly unbiased. The fact that Pasta always lead with negativity towards 2K and throws in token props, where as he leads with positiveness towards EA while glossing over issues with their game. This is especially true in head to head game when there's $$$ on the line between the two companies. It will be interesting to see where Pasta's main source of income comes if the law gets passed that all bloggers of products / services are required to publish any money / incentives they receive from the company's whose products they are 'reviewing'. Odds are there's a nice little revenue stream coming from EA direct.
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com valdarez

A couple of days ago, Pasta you posted about issues with 2K and then posted about Lives patch, even though 2K has indicated they have a patch in the works as well with a list of items on their forums (miss this did you?). An unbiased approach would have been to say both companies have patches in the works to address various issues with both games.

Having worked for 'MaddenNation.com', it's hard for any reader to think Pasta is truly unbiased. The fact that Pasta always lead with negativity towards 2K and throws in token props, where as he leads with positiveness towards EA while glossing over issues with their game. This is especially true in head to head game when there's $$$ on the line between the two companies. It will be interesting to see where Pasta's main source of income comes if the law gets passed that all bloggers of products / services are required to publish any money / incentives they receive from the company's whose products they are 'reviewing'. Odds are there's a nice little revenue stream coming from EA direct.

http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will be addressed. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not. At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not (such a patch would take months). At this point a potential patch is still a a month or more away.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

There is no patch list. Of course a patch is in the works, it would be news if there wasn't. But what you're referring to is a list of complaints people have made with the game. There is no guarantee that anything on that list will actually be addressed and the majority will likely not (such a patch would take months). At this point a potential patch is still a month or more away and does nothing to change the current situation.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com valdarez

Of course a patch is in the works, yet you never stated that in your previous posts which focused on 2K issues and EAs patch. You don't have a clue about how long away a patch is Pasta. Not a clue.

http://intensedebate.com/people/kbomb1upc kbomb1upc

Why do people want to hate on Pasta for telling to truth? Everyone who plays 2K online will tell you the same thing… The online modes are broken and lag is very bad. 2K servers have been bad for the last 3 years and they have done nothing to fix it. Pasta has flamed EA many of times for not stepping up to the plate about lagging issues. Servers should have been their top priority with a game that plays so well offline instead of the My Player crap and trying to milk an extra 5 dollars out of people.

You can also ask anyone that has played Live and they will tell you that online is fun. The gameplay still has its share of issues but at least EA has stepped up to the plate and fixed some nagging issues. If you don't like Live cool, but don't try to call someone out for giving you the facts.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com valdarez

Absolutely nothing wrong with telling the truth. Only issue I have is that Pasta is not unbiased. He worked for MaddenNation.com, has extremely close ties with EA, and constantly writes write negative stories with buried positives about 2K and Positive stories with buried negatives about EA. As I said before, several days ago he had a post about issues with 2K's game, and posts about the patch for EAs. He could have lead with a story about issues with both games and a patch being available soon for both. That would have been the unbiased way to write the story.

t daley

Delusional 2k fanboy yet again playing the Pasta/EA bias card. Oh! how original. PP is about as unbiased as they come and he will substantiate any claim that he makes towards a game and is reviews are easily distiguishable between Fact and Personal Preference.

When will 2k fanboys come to your senses and realize what 2k is doing. Wake up people and realize you have aligned yourselves with a sinking ship. One by one 2k has destroyed franchises that were once dominant. Both the NHL and MLB franchises were arguably the best of the best, now they are a broken down mess not even worth playing.

NBA 2k series is relying on reputation to peddle its broken software and you drones lap it up readily. It is funny how you minimalize small things like "frame rate" and a "functional online" game play. These are major flaws in this game and the mere suggestion that these will be fixed in an imaginary patch is rediculous. All 2k has to say is there is a patch in the works and you all drink the Koolaid again. 2kfanboy=SUCKERS.

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com valdarez

You're right. The MaddenNation.com and close ties with EA mean nothing. The fact that articles regarding EA titles lead with positives and bury the negatives mean nothing. The fact that articles on 2K titles lead with negatives and bury the positives mean nothing. If you're looking for a delusional card, I suggest you check yours at the door.

I would continue focusing on logical, factual points, but your sentiment in general and your closing paragraph based on pure conjecture and true fan boyism clearly display that logic has no place with you.

NELL86

The online for 2k is wack hopefully its fixable with a patch or 2k10 will be returned
NELL86

The online for 2k is wack hopefully its fixable with a patch or 2k10 will be returned
NELL86

The online for 2k is wack hopefully its fixable with a patch or 2k10 will be returned
NELL86

The online for 2k is wack hopefully its fixable with a patch or 2k10 will be returned
http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

By the way guys, there are problems connecting with the game, but once you're in, the games typically run fine with only an occasional hiccup (maybe once per game on average per my experience) in frame rate. 2K Sports has indicated that online and frame rate issues are their top priorities for the patch. Now there's something you won't hear from Pasta.

Lake Allen

What youre talking about is regular ranked games which do work SOMETIMES. But all the other modes crews, team up, pickup, leagues. Dont work at ALL
Lake Allen

What youre talking about is regular ranked games which do work SOMETIMES. But all the other modes crews, team up, pickup, leagues. Dont work at ALL

http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

By the way guys, there are problems connecting with the game, but once you're in, the games typically run fine with only an occasional hiccup (maybe once per game on average per my experience) in frame rate. 2K Sports has indicated that online and frame rate issues are their top priorities for the patch. Now there's something you won't hear from Pasta.