NBA 2K10 Online Impressions

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Posted October 12th, 2009 at 10:10 am

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As the popularity of the NBA 2K franchise has risen the online performance has taken a sharp decline in its wake. Last year the Team Up mode was introduced however it was never able to consistently handle the load of multiple users being connected into one online game. With NBA 2K10 it has now been five days and online is still completely unreliable and some modes aren’t even functional.

If there is one thing I’ve always pushed for on the site it is companies living up to their promises and delivering on advertised features. That has been the case in the past with articles on MLB The Show’s terrible online performance, Tiger Woods “Photo Face” not working at launch, and Madden touting “Maddenoliday” only to have unplayable online on that very day.

Not delivering with the online play certainly qualifies as such. I’ve had difficulty building these online impressions because of the inability to get games in. However after providing ample time to fix what could have been early hiccups and knowing last year’s was never completely addressed online is what it is and that is important to discuss.

Over the last 6 days I have been able to complete two ranked games and one Team-Up game. Other attempts have resulted in “refer to the FAQ” or “network conditions too poor” or “network problem prevents continuing”. The servers have been completely down in many instances and there is a decent chance they would be even be as you read this.

2K did change up the way you can get into online games, either through the menu system or right from the game match-up screen. It’s probably more convenient but also has led to some confusion since there is no one central area for all online activities.

There have been some reports of immense lag when actually being able to play in the online games. In my handful of experiences the lag has been slight. Noticeable but not debilitating to gameplay. The Team-Up game was with six online users lag was at least manageable unlike most that I tried with 2K9. With such a limited sample it’s difficult to fully judge performance especially given the inconsistency of the servers.

Specifically on the PS3 the server seems to be freezing the consoles for some when searching for games or when being dropped out of them. Not sure how widespread this is but multiple reports out there of it happening.

The framerate problems seen prominently offline are also felt online. Not only do you have to account for the lag, but any time the action gets cluttered such as in the paint going for a rebound there is noticeable slowdown.

From what I’ve been able to gather, when the servers are actually up and running the Team-Up games seem to be maxed out at six or seven users. Eight or above attempting to play will cause the game to disconnect right at the start. This is a feature that is most enjoyable when every player is user-controlled but that was not possible last year nor does it appear it will be this year.

Team-Up feels a lot like My Player mode because it uses the same grading system, which as everyone knows has its good points and bad. At one point I was randomly hit with like five excessive calling for the ball when I had never even pressed the button once. It also basically prevents your team from playing zone because no one wants to leave their guy for any reason when they could score and that results in the detraction for allowing it.

It seems that in Team-Up/Pick-Up games only the point guard has the ability to make substitutions. This can be a big problem. With turbo affecting stamina so harshly if you don’t have someone at PG on the mic or willing to make smart subs then you’re stuck.

The stamina does appear to run down a little too quickly. I have consciously been very conservative with the turbo yet find my player drained. Subs would have to be done multiple times in a game which may not happen due to only the PG being able to and even if they were it interrupts the flow of the game when people just want to play. It should probably be toned down a little in an upcoming patch.

There is a known glitch, previously reported over on OS, that affects the Team-Up games. I don’t know if this has been seen since as I’ve yet to come across anyone has been able to play a full Team-Up game.

Most disappointing all this is I actually find the gameplay of NBA 2K10 to be ideally suited to the Team-Up experience. The slower pace and turbo limitations lend itself well to that.

So while those modes online have not been working it does seem that regular ranked games are becoming more available for people to compete in. Certainly it isn’t as consistent as it needs to be though.

In NBA 2K10 there have been a few additions to the online feature set. That includes creating “Crews” for Team-Up games and track the records and stats. There is also the ability to take your My Player online and play Pick-Up games using them or NBA players. Sadly no one has yet been able to do these things because of the server issues.

The leagues appear to be similarly structured with the fantastic website which is a shining example of how they should be done. Last year there were some problems with leagues but right now with the server issues they have not been functional so it’s unknown how 2K10′s have shaped up. They aren’t online dynasties which is the natural evolution that really needs to be made soon as leagues are feeling like a thing of the past.

When your opponent pauses you’ll see their menu screen before being blocked from seeing what changes they make. They still haven’t made it possible for both sides to make changes at the same time which is frustrating. Changes must be made for each game, so if you prefer a certain camera angle you can’t set that to be your default and have that carry over.

The NBA Today feature also seems to be affected by the online problems and has not been working at times. Even uploading screenshots and highlight videos have been a crapshoot as they may never actually appear. You’ll see some other oddities from offline that happen online, such as the refs never getting the ball set for play. May have to burn a timeout to get past that or wait it out and maybe they’ll stop passing back and forth with the inbounder or whatever the situation is.

As to the two ranked games I completed, the wins still have not registered and at this point I’m thinking they never will. It seems that many wins are not being recorded for people which again seems to be tied to the servers.

There are no replays or highlights available after the game which is a disappointment. I always enjoy watching them after games and there will always be cool events that you want to see again or save from the online games but won’t be able to.

One has to wonder if the rate that 2K10 contacts the servers is creating some of the problems. When you start up 2K10 it attempts to find updates to the Living Rosters, player progression and NBA Today. After every My Player mode game or drill it contacts the server to update your information. That must be taxing in some regard and adds an annoyance in constant failure messages when the server goes down.

Consumers are showing dissatisfaction over the matter in the 2K forum, on Twitter, and elsewhere. Whether it results in a loss of sales this year or (more likely) next year we won’t know for some time. Unfortunately it just appears that 2K Sports does not have the resources to provide the proper online experience for such a popular game.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    As much as I hate to say it… Pasta is right on! This game could be great… KEY WORD "COULD", but the sad truth is that IT isn't! Disregard ALL the online issues, I can't even play offline!!! I try to play a quick game against the CPU and it don't work, I tried to play Association and it don't WORK!!! I have always been a 2k fan but the sad truth is this game is full of issues, framerate problems, glitches, bugs, lag, ALL OF THE ABOVE!!! I will never support or ever buy a 2k game ever again! This game is full of F*ckin SH*T! I never been so damn mad about a game ever. Its garbage and I will never spend my money on such trash. All you guys saying this game is good and you dont see any problems with it are just straight dumb… 2k go fu*k yourselves! By the way go Dolphins! Just got back from the game and F*ck Rex Ryan… MIA all day!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    Face it this game is RETARDED!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    Face it this game is RETARDED!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    Face it this game is RETARDED!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    DID I MENTION HOW RETARDED 2K10 WAS?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    DID I MENTION HOW RETARDED 2K10 WAS?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TheCarver13 TheCarver13

    DID I MENTION HOW RETARDED 2K10 WAS?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=27601712 Jesse Guido

    Thx for the review but these 2 points are DEAD WRONG:
    1)"From what I’ve been able to gather, when the servers are actually up and running the Team-Up games seem to be maxed out at six or seven users. Eight or above attempting to play will cause the game to disconnect right at the start. This is a feature that is most enjoyable when every player is user-controlled but that was not possible last year nor does it appear it will be this year."

    That is not true, in 2k9 I played hundreds and hundreds of 5v5 matches (mostly private matches with friends, this mode was DEFINITELY playable with all 10 users), and in 2k10 I've already played about twenty 4v4s (8 total users), and maybe eight or ten 5v5s (10 total users)

    2) "It seems that in Team-Up/Pick-Up games only the point guard has the ability to make substitutions."

    Totally false, PREGAME only the team captain can make subs for the entire team. IN THE GAME, everyone can sub their player. So if you're Dwight Howard, you can put in Gortat, or whoever you'd like. BUT, here's a tip to all, if the point guard calls a play (zone d, man d, any offensive play), it will glitch out the subs and show one player's name in all 5 position spots, and become VERY hard to sub (which is something they should be addressing in the patch).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=27601712 Jesse Guido

    Thx for the review but these 2 points are DEAD WRONG:
    1)"From what I’ve been able to gather, when the servers are actually up and running the Team-Up games seem to be maxed out at six or seven users. Eight or above attempting to play will cause the game to disconnect right at the start. This is a feature that is most enjoyable when every player is user-controlled but that was not possible last year nor does it appear it will be this year."

    That is not true, in 2k9 I played hundreds and hundreds of 5v5 matches (mostly private matches with friends, this mode was DEFINITELY playable with all 10 users), and in 2k10 I've already played about twenty 4v4s (8 total users), and maybe eight or ten 5v5s (10 total users)

    2) "It seems that in Team-Up/Pick-Up games only the point guard has the ability to make substitutions."

    Totally false, PREGAME only the team captain can make subs for the entire team. IN THE GAME, everyone can sub their player. So if you're Dwight Howard, you can put in Gortat, or whoever you'd like. BUT, here's a tip to all, if the point guard calls a play (zone d, man d, any offensive play), it will glitch out the subs and show one player's name in all 5 position spots, and become VERY hard to sub (which is something they should be addressing in the patch).

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=27601712 Jesse Guido

    Thx for the review but these 2 points are DEAD WRONG:
    1)"From what I’ve been able to gather, when the servers are actually up and running the Team-Up games seem to be maxed out at six or seven users. Eight or above attempting to play will cause the game to disconnect right at the start. This is a feature that is most enjoyable when every player is user-controlled but that was not possible last year nor does it appear it will be this year."

    That is not true, in 2k9 I played hundreds and hundreds of 5v5 matches (mostly private matches with friends, this mode was DEFINITELY playable with all 10 users), and in 2k10 I've already played about twenty 4v4s (8 total users), and maybe eight or ten 5v5s (10 total users)

    2) "It seems that in Team-Up/Pick-Up games only the point guard has the ability to make substitutions."

    Totally false, PREGAME only the team captain can make subs for the entire team. IN THE GAME, everyone can sub their player. So if you're Dwight Howard, you can put in Gortat, or whoever you'd like. BUT, here's a tip to all, if the point guard calls a play (zone d, man d, any offensive play), it will glitch out the subs and show one player's name in all 5 position spots, and become VERY hard to sub (which is something they should be addressing in the patch).

  • t daley

    Pasta: If i said it once i said it a thousand times. 2kfan boys are lemmings. It doesn't matter what 2k does, or in this case refuses to do. Every year 2k releases a half baked game and every year 2kfanboy makes excuses for 2k and lets them off the hook.

    2kfanboy are a version of Pavlovs dog. You are beat into submission and trained to believe that 2k is the superior product when its clear that they are not.

    • ballin77

      have you played 2k10 moron?

    • ballin77

      have you played 2k10 moron?

    • smokez4dayz

      That's actually the EXACT definition of an EA fan boy. Its amazing how different people see things. You have more than double the responses about 2k10 online than live 10 online. Typiical bs, more people care about bashing 2k10 than giving praise or insight or anything to live 10. Its shows the fakeness in pasta, his trolls, and ea moles who post fake feelings about 2k titles. Nba 2k10 is by far the only sports game you need this year, its so deep. And challenging. Nba 2k10 is the superior project, easy

      • ballin77

        i think they're just small boys…

  • t daley

    Pasta: If i said it once i said it a thousand times. 2kfan boys are lemmings. It doesn't matter what 2k does, or in this case refuses to do. Every year 2k releases a half baked game and every year 2kfanboy makes excuses for 2k and lets them off the hook.

    2kfanboy are a version of Pavlovs dog. You are beat into submission and trained to believe that 2k is the superior product when its clear that they are not.

  • t daley

    Pasta: If i said it once i said it a thousand times. 2kfan boys are lemmings. It doesn't matter what 2k does, or in this case refuses to do. Every year 2k releases a half baked game and every year 2kfanboy makes excuses for 2k and lets them off the hook.

    2kfanboy are a version of Pavlovs dog. You are beat into submission and trained to believe that 2k is the superior product when its clear that they are not.

    • ballin77

      have you played 2k10 moron?

    • smokez4dayz

      That's actually the EXACT definition of an EA fan boy. Its amazing how different people see things. You have more than double the responses about 2k10 online than live 10 online. Typiical bs, more people care about bashing 2k10 than giving praise or insight or anything to live 10. Its shows the fakeness in pasta, his trolls, and ea moles who post fake feelings about 2k titles. Nba 2k10 is by far the only sports game you need this year, its so deep. And challenging. Nba 2k10 is the superior project, easy

      • ballin77

        i think they're just small boys…

  • Ballin77

    i have 2k10 for pc and it's AWESOME man.All new great animations and A.I. Post game is great and the presentation is beautiful.You can never go back to 2k9 now.This is so much better.Don't believe the bad words for 2k10. It's called JEALOUSY…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      The PC version is probably a good deal. Offline with the possibility of mods and less worry over framerate. I wonder how the online play is with that though.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      The PC version is probably a good deal. Offline with the possibility of mods and less worry over framerate. I wonder how the online play is with that though.

  • Ballin77

    i have 2k10 for pc and it's AWESOME man.All new great animations and A.I. Post game is great and the presentation is beautiful.You can never go back to 2k9 now.This is so much better.Don't believe the bad words for 2k10. It's called JEALOUSY…

  • Ballin77

    i have 2k10 for pc and it's AWESOME man.All new great animations and A.I. Post game is great and the presentation is beautiful.You can never go back to 2k9 now.This is so much better.Don't believe the bad words for 2k10. It's called JEALOUSY…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

      The PC version is probably a good deal. Offline with the possibility of mods and less worry over framerate. I wonder how the online play is with that though.

  • iverson1

    all i gotta say 2k got a 6etter reviews than live on every website so dat prove live is ass.

    • Big Hurt

      Except for this site,LOL. Even the renters at gamefly gave 2k and 8.6 and live a 7.1, ouch!

      • http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

        Exactly. At every other site thus far but here.

        Good thing is 2K is making good progress on the server issues (most people seem to be able to play a game once they are in now) and we're getting close to an official patch list release which should ease a lot of fans concerns. NBA 2K 10 with the bugs still gets a better review than EA's Live, once the bugs are fixed, it's going to completely pwn it.

        I'm totally into the My Player mode still. Probably the neatest feature ever added to a video game (along the lines of EA's NCAA Football's Road to Glory, which I like as well, if only it weren't ruined by that horrible NCAA gameplay!). IMHO this feature has ALL kinds of up sides to it. Can't wait to see where they take it over the coming years.

      • http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com/ valdarez

        Exactly, and they even remove pro 2K posts at times on here. Nothing wrong with reading Pasta's views, just recognize them for what they are, an extension of the EA marketing machine.

  • iverson1

    all i gotta say 2k got a 6etter reviews than live on every website so dat prove live is ass.

    • Big Hurt

      Except for this site,LOL. Even the renters at gamefly gave 2k and 8.6 and live a 7.1, ouch!

      • http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com valdarez

        Exactly. At every other site thus far but here.

        Good thing is 2K is making good progress on the server issues (most people seem to be able to play a game once they are in now) and we're getting close to an official patch list release which should ease a lot of fans concerns. NBA 2K 10 with the bugs still gets a better review than EA's Live, once the bugs are fixed, it's going to completely pwn it.

        I'm totally into the My Player mode still. Probably the neatest feature ever added to a video game (along the lines of EA's NCAA Football's Road to Glory, which I like as well, if only it weren't ruined by that horrible NCAA gameplay!). IMHO this feature has ALL kinds of up sides to it. Can't wait to see where they take it over the coming years.

      • http://www.2kfootballstrategy.com valdarez

        Exactly, and they even remove pro 2K posts at times on here. Nothing wrong with reading Pasta's views, just recognize them for what they are, an extension of the EA marketing machine.

  • nba live fan

    nba 2k10 iz the shit but fix the severs

  • nba live fan

    nba 2k10 iz the shit but fix the severs

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=27601712 Jesse Guido

    if live was better we would be playing live, 2k needs to get their act together, we admit that, and hopefully they will. i wish live was great, like the old days, but its not anymore

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=27601712 Jesse Guido

    if live was better we would be playing live, 2k needs to get their act together, we admit that, and hopefully they will. i wish live was great, like the old days, but its not anymore

  • Oliver

    and….days later still no update from 2k. time to face it they dont care.

  • Oliver

    and….days later still no update from 2k. time to face it they dont care.

  • http://twitter.com/KingJuggaNott @KingJuggaNott

    LOL @ 2K fanboys. The are so funny. Hostile…but funny.

  • http://twitter.com/KingJuggaNott @KingJuggaNott

    LOL @ 2K fanboys. The are so funny. Hostile…but funny.

  • http://twitter.com/KingJuggaNott @KingJuggaNott

    Oh…BTW….gamespot.com Live 10 7.5 ………….2K10 7.0. Good luck with the patch, ,but to have a patch for all that's wrong is like going to the emergency room for a broken back only to have the doctor wrap a bandage around your head. LMAO…sad sad sad.

  • http://twitter.com/KingJuggaNott @KingJuggaNott

    Oh…BTW….gamespot.com Live 10 7.5 ………….2K10 7.0. Good luck with the patch, ,but to have a patch for all that's wrong is like going to the emergency room for a broken back only to have the doctor wrap a bandage around your head. LMAO…sad sad sad.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

    You can't even navigate thru their website it's been down for me since the games release. i get to the site but to go in the forums it says server busy, etc. I'm wondering if someone hacked the crap outta them.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

    You can't even navigate thru their website it's been down for me since the games release. i get to the site but to go in the forums it says server busy, etc. I'm wondering if someone hacked the crap outta them. I wonder is pasta padre hacked up 2ksports, lol.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

    You can't even navigate thru their website it's been down for me since the games release. i get to the site but to go in the forums it says server busy, etc. I'm wondering if someone hacked the crap outta them.

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/bullitt_711 bullitt_711

    You can't even navigate thru their website it's been down for me since the games release. i get to the site but to go in the forums it says server busy, etc. I'm wondering if someone hacked the crap outta them. I wonder is pasta padre hacked up 2ksports, lol.

  • Josh

    hello does anyone notice that the online play for nba 2k10 really need work the players are slower and they get fatigued easier is this going to be fixed as well

  • Josh

    hello does anyone notice that the online play for nba 2k10 really need work the players are slower and they get fatigued easier is this going to be fixed as well

  • josh

    whats the deal with the game it needs work but im sure theyll fix it in the patch

  • josh

    whats the deal with the game it needs work but im sure theyll fix it in the patch

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

    It's gonna be an interesting day when the sales are released.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

    It's gonna be an interesting day when the sales are released.

  • nore

    How much will i get if i retun it to Gamespot, much rather spend that money on forza 3

  • nore

    How much will i get if i retun it to Gamespot, much rather spend that money on forza 3

  • brendan bak

    hey on My player how long does it take to move up? It wont lemme do anymore drills and ive completed like 20 games with my overall going up like 1 every 3 games. anyone know?

  • brendan bak

    hey on My player how long does it take to move up? It wont lemme do anymore drills and ive completed like 20 games with my overall going up like 1 every 3 games. anyone know?

  • ryan

    anyone have a problem having ranked games not counting????

  • ryan

    anyone have a problem having ranked games not counting????

  • Devante

    online doesn't work.. .when i go to my player and try to play pick up it always kicks me out… wtf.. lame… whats wrong with this?

  • Devante

    online doesn't work.. .when i go to my player and try to play pick up it always kicks me out… wtf.. lame… whats wrong with this?

  • ile nikolov

    haloo

  • ile nikolov

    haloo

  • Steven

    i have an xbox 360 i have contacted 2ksports about the nba today not working and servors down lets see what they do lol

  • Steven

    i have an xbox 360 i have contacted 2ksports about the nba today not working and servors down lets see what they do lol

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