#6 of 2009: NBA Live 10

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Posted December 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm

The ranking of games in the best of 2009 list is based primarily on the personal amount of enjoyment had with a particular title. Some other factors include whether advertised features were fully delivered on, post-release support, community interaction and communication, overall gameplay experience, feature set, and online play performance. Again this is a personal take on the games. The analysis is weighted largely towards those which I had the most fun with while considering them as a whole and compared relatively to the others.

This was a critical year for the NBA Live franchise to attempt to establish itself against the competition. In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground.The game excelled in some areas but also had some frustrating flaws that held it back from being one I could feel completely passionate about.

After playing the demo I actually stated in my impressions that I wasn’t sure if I liked Live 10 better than Live 09. That changed with the full version of the game but many of those gripes I had in the demo turned into annoyances that did affect my level of gameplay enjoyment.

Overall gameplay would feel sloppy at times because of a high number of turnovers. Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation. These rarely resulted in fouls and usually ended up being missed, meanwhile the CPU tended to make those same shots. Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game.

The new freestyle passing with the right stick felt great to use at times but I never felt as though I could rely on it. Same with the directional based passing which remains inconsistent. Those mistakes would result in additional turnovers but so would normal passes that felt safe only for the CPU steal or tip them away with my teammates not being aggressive in going for the ball.

I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. It made it difficult to play user defense since that player could just drive right by and as such made the tendency to switch and play off-ball.

Probably the other biggest issue for me outside of the general sloppy feel was the lack of fast breaks. Live 10 is an excellent half-court representation of the NBA but there were so few fast breaks for both the CPU and the user. Basically the reason as far as I saw it was even one player back on defense could just draw the ball handler into a contact animation and the shot would be missed. But even those type of opportunities were rare. Fast breaks were never really improved on with the patches.

Despite those things mentioned above the game also got many things right out of the box. Shot percentages and stat output were realistic. Live 10 rewards playing basketball the right way for the most part with running plays, setting screens, ball movement, and creating space being critical. Hustle plays were implemented well with players acting appropriately in the necessary situations. Basically this was the year it became a completely sim game. Still flawed in some areas sure but it was clear that was the intention going in.

Really there was one thing above all others that had me enjoying the game far more than I would have otherwise. The stadium atmosphere was represented better than any other sports game has been able to offer. The three levels (regular season, playoffs, and NBA Finals) are differentiated well and provide unique feels. I don’t think I realized just how much the atmosphere can mean to the overall experience until Live 10. It totally changed my perspective on what is most important to providing an emotional connection and experience in a sports game.

In addition to the crowd atmosphere was the addition of the player rituals, stadium specific sounds and a wide selection of uniform options. Vince Carter getting booed every time he touches the ball in Toronto is just awesome. Touches like those showed a dedication to replicate the NBA experience more so than Live has done in the past.

Dynamic Season was an interesting concept and a way to meet the desire of many to play along with the events of the current season. This was another way to utilize the excellent Synergy data that is downloaded on a daily basis. Issues at the start though with stats not syncing up and displaying properly and the daunting thought that I’d still be playing in mid-2010 just to complete the one season ultimately led me to drop it. I would be really curious to find out data on how many Dynamic Seasons are active especially into next year. At the very least the mode provides another avenue of longevity.

NBA Live continued to excel in online play with smooth and consistent performance in all the game modes. Adidas Live Run was the new spin-off from Online Team Play which added another unique mode to online.

On paper it made a lot of sense to offer pick-up style games. Everyone gets to control a skilled player and the gameplay was much more free-flowing with the removal of fouls. I did miss some of the atmosphere of the crowd though. The dominance of certain players (Yao Ming) and the flaw that allowed certain types of three point attempts to be nearly automatic were troublesome. It was also difficult to really coordinate to have everyone on for full teams at the same time. Still when playing the games it was largely a fun experience. Full thoughts on Live Run can be found here.

While EA was quick to provide a first patch that corrected some of the initial issues with the game it also caused one that resulted in goaltending scores not counting into the displayed scores. This was fixed by a second patch but was a black eye for the amount of time it was out there. There have also been questions as to the effectiveness of changes that were meant to curb exploits with certain types of three point shots. On the other end of the spectrum the two patches clearly took consumer feedback into consideration which was a positive development.

Despite the active work on the two patches the post-release support and communication has noticeably decreased. The Synergy data for ratings and manual roster updates have been lacking in consistency and made little sense. The sense from this along with the sales data and recent comments by EA regarding profitability of titles has led to Live being viewed as a possible cut down the line.

NBA Live 10 was a game that I enjoyed quite a bit due to the slant towards sim gameplay, solid online play, and especially the unbelievable atmosphere of the games. NBA Live 11 may very well be the make-or-break year for the series. If it doesn’t see a surge in sales its future will be in serious doubt.

#6: NBA Live 10
#7: Madden Arcade
#8: NCAA Football 10
#9: NBA 2K10
#10: Fight Night Round 4
The Worst of 2009

  • swizzy

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  • AAA

    Merry Christmas!
    Dashing through the snow
    In my shitty Ford Escape
    oh look some crime scene tape
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    and they got their heat
    someone's going to get robbed and beat
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    • Franklin

      Whats funny about this is you're are no doubt some scared white boy hiding behind your computer, if you dislike blacks so much then go and tell one of them to the're face like a man. I happen to be hispanic and know most of you guys all to well, if you catch one of you in the streets with that same bullshit, its a whole new ballgame. I expect some of your white buddies to reply to this, but then again its always talk with you guys. PEACE!

      • AAA

        A spic named Franklin that wierd

      • AAA

        A spic named Franklin that wierd

      • AAA

        A spic named Franklin that wierd

    • Franklin

      Whats funny about this is you're are no doubt some scared white boy hiding behind your computer, if you dislike blacks so much then go and tell one of them to the're face like a man. I happen to be hispanic and know most of you guys all to well, if you catch one of you in the streets with that same bullshit, its a whole new ballgame. I expect some of your white buddies to reply to this, but then again its always talk with you guys. PEACE!

    • Sean

      Can't we all just get along….

    • Sean

      Can't we all just get along….

    • Sean

      Can't we all just get along….

  • AAA

    Merry Christmas!
    Dashing through the snow
    In my shitty Ford Escape
    oh look some crime scene tape
    And Neg-A-ros everywhere I go
    trying to sell some blow
    in there dodge neon yo
    Oh, silly Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    There's Neg-A-ro's in the streets
    and they got their heat
    someone's going to get robbed and beat
    Wow I dont feel safe on Wilson St
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    there's Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

  • AAA

    Merry Christmas!
    Dashing through the snow
    In my shitty Ford Escape
    oh look some crime scene tape
    And Neg-A-ros everywhere I go
    trying to sell some blow
    in there dodge neon yo
    Oh, silly Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    There's Neg-A-ro's in the streets
    and they got their heat
    someone's going to get robbed and beat
    Wow I dont feel safe on Wilson St
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    there's Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    • Franklin

      Whats funny about this is you're are no doubt some scared white boy hiding behind your computer, if you dislike blacks so much then go and tell one of them to the're face like a man. I happen to be hispanic and know most of you guys all to well, if you catch one of you in the streets with that same bullshit, its a whole new ballgame. I expect some of your white buddies to reply to this, but then again its always talk with you guys. PEACE!

      • AAA

        A spic named Franklin that wierd

    • Sean

      Can't we all just get along….

  • lonnie

    oh geez ,,here we go again

  • lonnie

    oh geez ,,here we go again

  • lonnie

    oh geez ,,here we go again

  • t. daley

    The only reason why Live 10 would lose ground financially is due to the overwhelming stupidity of the 2kfanboy. They are so brainwashed into thinking that 2k basketball is better even when they haven’t had a decent basketball game in 2 years.

    Lets face it. 2kfanboy is so stupid that they would rather purchase a game that doesn’t even work online than to purchase the much improved Live 10. Like the saying goes, “There is just no accounting for poor taste.”

    When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug.

    • killu4what

      Lol
      If u played live from 04 to 09 what does that make you.
      2k10=best 2k to date
      After the patch of course
      Live is solid though good game

    • killu4what

      Lol
      If u played live from 04 to 09 what does that make you.
      2k10=best 2k to date
      After the patch of course
      Live is solid though good game

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

      lol t daley you kill me..

      • Young Weezy

        Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

      • Young Weezy

        Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

      • Young Weezy

        Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

      lol t daley you kill me..

  • t. daley

    The only reason why Live 10 would lose ground financially is due to the overwhelming stupidity of the 2kfanboy. They are so brainwashed into thinking that 2k basketball is better even when they haven’t had a decent basketball game in 2 years.

    Lets face it. 2kfanboy is so stupid that they would rather purchase a game that doesn’t even work online than to purchase the much improved Live 10. Like the saying goes, “There is just no accounting for poor taste.”

    When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug.

  • t. daley

    The only reason why Live 10 would lose ground financially is due to the overwhelming stupidity of the 2kfanboy. They are so brainwashed into thinking that 2k basketball is better even when they haven’t had a decent basketball game in 2 years.

    Lets face it. 2kfanboy is so stupid that they would rather purchase a game that doesn’t even work online than to purchase the much improved Live 10. Like the saying goes, “There is just no accounting for poor taste.”

    When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug.

    • killu4what

      Lol
      If u played live from 04 to 09 what does that make you.
      2k10=best 2k to date
      After the patch of course
      Live is solid though good game

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

      lol t daley you kill me..

      • Young Weezy

        Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  • Quilly

    Im So High I Can Bite A Star

  • Quilly

    Im So High I Can Bite A Star

  • Keith.

    t. daley, you're an idiot for posting this: "When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug."

    Did you know that EA reported a $1 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS on May 5, 2009?

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46803/EA-Report

    Did you know that EA announced another LOSS of $391 MILLION on November 9, 2009, which was up from the loss of $310 million a year earlier?

    http://gadgetophilia.com/electronic-arts-posts-2n

    Did you know EA laid off close to 20% of its work force the same date?

    I don't think EA is going to be buying 2k anytime soon. EA needs to worry about picking up its own pieces, I'd say.

  • Keith.

    t. daley, you're an idiot for posting this: "When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug."

    Did you know that EA reported a $1 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS on May 5, 2009?

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46803/EA-Report

    Did you know that EA announced another LOSS of $391 MILLION on November 9, 2009, which was up from the loss of $310 million a year earlier?

    http://gadgetophilia.com/electronic-arts-posts-2n

    Did you know EA laid off close to 20% of its work force the same date?

    I don't think EA is going to be buying 2k anytime soon. EA needs to worry about picking up its own pieces, I'd say.

  • Keith.

    t. daley, you're an idiot for posting this: "When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug."

    Did you know that EA reported a $1 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS on May 5, 2009?

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46803/EA-Report

    Did you know that EA announced another LOSS of $391 MILLION on November 9, 2009, which was up from the loss of $310 million a year earlier?

    http://gadgetophilia.com/electronic-arts-posts-2n

    Did you know EA laid off close to 20% of its work force the same date?

    I don't think EA is going to be buying 2k anytime soon. EA needs to worry about picking up its own pieces, I'd say.

  • King206

    Your kidding me right pasta? I owned both games and Live is garbage. Sold it after a week of play. 2K10 isn't great and I even barely play that game too but it is better than Live. WTF are you smoking Pasta? How much is EA paying you?

    • CLEfan

      they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

    • CLEfan

      they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

      • http://www.shorthandedstudio.com/ John Wayne H.

        I would have sold my copy of Live too after a week, but I kept tweaking it and struggling with it and hating on it, then all of a sudden it became the best basketball game I have ever bought. It just took a few weeks for me to "get it" I guess. It does have flaw though, this is true.

        • Wes

          Yeah you have to give both games a chance. I prefer nba live at the moment, but it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it.

        • Wes

          Yeah you have to give both games a chance. I prefer nba live at the moment, but it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it.

      • http://www.shorthandedstudio.com/ John Wayne H.

        I would have sold my copy of Live too after a week, but I kept tweaking it and struggling with it and hating on it, then all of a sudden it became the best basketball game I have ever bought. It just took a few weeks for me to "get it" I guess. It does have flaw though, this is true.

    • CLEfan

      they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

  • King206

    Your kidding me right pasta? I owned both games and Live is garbage. Sold it after a week of play. 2K10 isn't great and I even barely play that game too but it is better than Live. WTF are you smoking Pasta? How much is EA paying you?

  • King206

    Your kidding me right pasta? I owned both games and Live is garbage. Sold it after a week of play. 2K10 isn't great and I even barely play that game too but it is better than Live. WTF are you smoking Pasta? How much is EA paying you?

    • CLEfan

      they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

      • http://www.shorthandedstudio.com John Wayne H.

        I would have sold my copy of Live too after a week, but I kept tweaking it and struggling with it and hating on it, then all of a sudden it became the best basketball game I have ever bought. It just took a few weeks for me to "get it" I guess. It does have flaw though, this is true.

        • Wes

          Yeah you have to give both games a chance. I prefer nba live at the moment, but it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    LIVE IS BULLSHIT

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    LIVE IS BULLSHIT

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    LIVE IS BULLSHIT

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/gantous gantous

    i like how he says its hard to play 1 on 1 defense. When in reality its impossible to play any kind of defense in this bullshit game.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/gantous gantous

    i like how he says its hard to play 1 on 1 defense. When in reality its impossible to play any kind of defense in this bullshit game.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Sean

    I played live for 8 years unitl I played 2k9 and just felt like it played better than live. Especially on the 360. It has its online problems and they DO NEED to be addressed, but the single player game mode plays just fine for my taste. As far as I am concerned, I was done with live when I played 2k9. Bough 2k10 for 25 bucks on Black Friday and am happy with it….despite it flaws.

  • Sean

    I played live for 8 years unitl I played 2k9 and just felt like it played better than live. Especially on the 360. It has its online problems and they DO NEED to be addressed, but the single player game mode plays just fine for my taste. As far as I am concerned, I was done with live when I played 2k9. Bough 2k10 for 25 bucks on Black Friday and am happy with it….despite it flaws.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

    • CLEfan

      The commentary will come in time, new commentary will be added year by year. For the time being they have to have the commentary very stale.

    • CLEfan

      The commentary will come in time, new commentary will be added year by year. For the time being they have to have the commentary very stale.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

    • CLEfan

      The commentary will come in time, new commentary will be added year by year. For the time being they have to have the commentary very stale.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

    • CLEfan

      Agreed. 2k takes a lot more skill and time to master, where as the controls r nice in Live, but there are only a select few animations of crossovers and dribble moves which make it very unrealistic. 2k s controls frustrate people. Honestly they really arent that hard tho. The shot stick in my opinion is fantastic especially when your taking it to the hole. You move it in one direction away from the guys and your player finishes at the cup with a nice looking layup. 2k has all the animations that are represented in the real game which makes it the best sim on the market.

    • CLEfan

      Agreed. 2k takes a lot more skill and time to master, where as the controls r nice in Live, but there are only a select few animations of crossovers and dribble moves which make it very unrealistic. 2k s controls frustrate people. Honestly they really arent that hard tho. The shot stick in my opinion is fantastic especially when your taking it to the hole. You move it in one direction away from the guys and your player finishes at the cup with a nice looking layup. 2k has all the animations that are represented in the real game which makes it the best sim on the market.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

    • CLEfan

      Agreed. 2k takes a lot more skill and time to master, where as the controls r nice in Live, but there are only a select few animations of crossovers and dribble moves which make it very unrealistic. 2k s controls frustrate people. Honestly they really arent that hard tho. The shot stick in my opinion is fantastic especially when your taking it to the hole. You move it in one direction away from the guys and your player finishes at the cup with a nice looking layup. 2k has all the animations that are represented in the real game which makes it the best sim on the market.

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

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