Madden Ultimate Team First Impressions

by pastapadre
Posted January 7th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

EA Sports introduced the Ultimate Team idea with FIFA 09 and will be doing so again coming up for FIFA 10. However for Madden 10 the Ultimate Team mode is provided for free. This was a good move in that it allows everyone to try it out while on EA’s end it increases the number of potential users who will be completing microtransactions to improve their teams.

While the concept is great and the mode has some fun ideas it does end up feeling like the way to go is to pay money for the card packs or individual cards. You definitely don’t have to as with the proper patience coins can be gained just from playing games with the team. However comparing time cost vs money cost it clearly slants towards paying as being the most effective route to take.

The first thing after getting the patch and downloading Madden Ultimate Team from the Madden 10 menu is to get your starter pack. This will be a group of players that range from terrible to mediocre. I thought I came away with a decent offensive tandem of Josh McCown, Lamont Jordan, and Limus Sweed.

You can take your team and play the CPU or take them online to play other Ultimate Teams. Going up against the CPU means playing the real teams. The frustrating thing about using such a poor team isn’t the struggle to compete as I actually held up well in the games I played outside of so many dropped passes. Instead it is knowing the coins depend on it. It is going to be difficult to beat the CPU, or especially other users, with these base teams.

I’ve played three games and used Supersim (to test) on the other and now have a 1-3 record. The first two I went with eight minute quarters which meant they lasted about 45 minutes. I lost both and despite them being close I only had earned 280 coins (27-21) and 260 coins (20-13). I then played a game with one minute quarters and won 6-0 and got 310 coins. So there is some imbalance there.

Bronze – 500 coins
Silver – 1500 coins or 40 MS points (50 cents)
Gold – 3000 coins or 80 MS points ($1)
Platinum – 9000 coins or 240 MS points ($3)

Basically if I were to play legit and challenging games I’d be looking at about four hours to earn a Silver pack, eight hours to earn a Gold pack, and 24 hours invested to earn a Platinum pack. Despite wanting to avoid paying for these it almost feels necessary to get off the ground at the very least. Clearly the packs were priced low enough so that many people will see them as the better value and I actually would agree based on my experience so far. It’s tempting to say that it’s just 50 cents for a Silver pack so why not?

Apparently you get higher defaults from playing online games meaning you could potentially earn 400 or 500 coins in those. But there is no way I feel comfortable taking my team that drops so many passes and can’t tackle online since you can’t play friends. I understand why they did that, so people wouldn’t lay down to boost the other team, but it’s a bummer to know you can only play randoms. There are already Pro Bowl caliber teams online which is scary. Getting disconnected from the MUT server during any game online or offline means getting no coins and losing a game of eligibility which is definitely frustrating for anyone that goes through such an event.

EA has done a good job designing MUT so there aren’t any clear exploits in gaining coins. The number of coins earned varies based on difficultly level so taking advantage of the Rookie or Pro will see a penalty factored in and playing on All-Madden will offer a bonus. Also if Supersim is used there is a huge penalty enforced. I Supersimmed one game to see what would happen and ended up with just 22 coins. This was partially because my team is terrible and got blown out but also because of the heavy Supersim penalty.

Despite avoiding those type of exploits it was suggested to me on Twitter by patriotscpfc that playing multiple one minute quarter games is the quickest way to earn coins rather than devoting time to longer games. Instead of spending an hour in a challenging game I could play for about five minutes this way and progress much faster. Xoque has since added in that he lost a one minute quarters game 10-0 and got 265 coins. Playing the short games may not be as beneficial once a team has stacked good players but early on with the terrible talent it seems the best way to go. Get enough coins in the first 10 games to purchase a good pack or two and then build from there.

I really dig the auction setup as well as the limited edition cards. Those are great ideas that add to the strategy involved in putting teams together. For example up now (but already sold out) was a 98 rated Jerome Harrison built off the game where he put up 286 yards. Once they’re gone they’re gone and the only way to obtain them would be from the auction block if someone were to put them up.

I’ve already heard from a few people who played one game and haven’t found any motivation to continue, as well as people who are locked in and really enjoying it. I think it depends on how much patience people have, how good they are at Madden, and whether they’re open to paying for cards. After that it is how much that individual enjoys playing online against random people.

This will be a good test run for Madden Ultimate Team. There should be a great deal learned from it that will hopefully improve the mode in future years. This would be a perfect application for Teambuilder to be utilized also. MUT does have a lot of potential but it doesn’t feel as though it completely delivered on it in its first attempt but that could change the deeper I get into it. Then again the mode is free so as long as people are getting some enjoyment out of it as it extends the value of Madden 10 then it was worth it.

  • Keith.

    Money Grab!!!!

    Gotta get that exclusive license paid for, somehow!

  • Keith.

    Money Grab!!!!

    Gotta get that exclusive license paid for, somehow!

  • http://40nickel.com/ DocZulu

    Madden cards from the PS2 with a 21st century twist. I'm sorry but this is why some gamers view Madden as a "cheap" product. They should not insult their fanbase like this.

  • http://40nickel.com DocZulu

    Madden cards from the PS2 with a 21st century twist. I'm sorry but this is why some gamers view Madden as a "cheap" product. They should not insult their fanbase like this.

  • lolwat

    I seriously cannot play this online without friends.

    People are always quitting and pausing to irritate you enough to quit yourself.

    EA should reward you coins when your opponent quits like a coward.

  • lolwat

    I seriously cannot play this online without friends.

    People are always quitting and pausing to irritate you enough to quit yourself.

    EA should reward you coins when your opponent quits like a coward.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Yeah there needs to be some sort of incentive to play. I can't imagine being happy if I spent 40 minutes online in a game and got nothing out of it because my opponent quit.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Yeah there needs to be some sort of incentive to play. I can't imagine being happy if I spent 40 minutes online in a game and got nothing out of it because my opponent quit.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SpEaR_tACLe RvG_SPEAR

    looks good..

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SpEaR_tACLe RvG_SPEAR

    looks good..

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

    Is kinda fun, but your start out with nada for talent…my starting QB is John Parker Wilson, starting WR is Ruvell Martin…

    Plus, I dislike having to use the Lions home jersey, Jets away jersey and Giants Stadium (Jets version). You should be able to customize more than just the team name.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

    Is kinda fun, but your start out with nada for talent…my starting QB is John Parker Wilson, starting WR is Ruvell Martin…

    Plus, I dislike having to use the Lions home jersey, Jets away jersey and Giants Stadium (Jets version). You should be able to customize more than just the team name.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Sounds like maybe thats the problem. Getting disconnected from the MUT server screws you over.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Sounds like maybe thats the problem. Getting disconnected from the MUT server screws you over.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/DarthObvious DarthObvious

    My opponent disconnected on me and I was allowed to finish the game vs. the CPU, all my coins added up as though the game completed normally.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/DarthObvious DarthObvious

    My opponent disconnected on me and I was allowed to finish the game vs. the CPU, all my coins added up as though the game completed normally.

  • jay

    you should be given an option in your starter pack such as picking a deck with a RB75 or above or a qb like vick to start offf its just that the team you start out with is horrible and i went up against the cardinals and there was zero pressure on warner and my d couldnt tackle for their life

  • jay

    you should be given an option in your starter pack such as picking a deck with a RB75 or above or a qb like vick to start offf its just that the team you start out with is horrible and i went up against the cardinals and there was zero pressure on warner and my d couldnt tackle for their life

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Thanks, sounds like its just related to the MUT servers and not user intentional disconnects.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Thanks, sounds like its just related to the MUT servers and not user intentional disconnects.

  • Ian

    For all the people complaining about the players in the starter pack, think of it this way; the starter pack is just your bench… buy at least two or three packs yourself to get off the ground and then start playing games from there. Try playing a push over team like the Lions, on PRO, with 1 min quaters and you will get points like quickly. The starter pack is more like your bench/depth players.

  • Ian

    For all the people complaining about the players in the starter pack, think of it this way; the starter pack is just your bench… buy at least two or three packs yourself to get off the ground and then start playing games from there. Try playing a push over team like the Lions, on PRO, with 1 min quaters and you will get points like quickly. The starter pack is more like your bench/depth players.

  • aaggghhhhh

    pasta your mcdonald's ad that pops up every 5 seconds has got to be the most annoying ad I've ever seen on the internet. That's saying a lot…makes me not want to come here at all.

  • aaggghhhhh

    pasta your mcdonald's ad that pops up every 5 seconds has got to be the most annoying ad I've ever seen on the internet. That's saying a lot…makes me not want to come here at all.

  • Willy2535

    wat happens wens ur players contract runs out??? i jst bought a gold pack and got some gun players, i know u need contract cards to extend theyre playing time, but wat happens if u let it run out???

  • Willy2535

    wat happens wens ur players contract runs out??? i jst bought a gold pack and got some gun players, i know u need contract cards to extend theyre playing time, but wat happens if u let it run out???

  • Jason

    I bought the Jerome Harrison card and played 1 game with hima dn now the card has disappeared? :(

    Anyone else had this happen?

  • Jason

    I bought the Jerome Harrison card and played 1 game with hima dn now the card has disappeared? :(

    Anyone else had this happen?

  • tekknikal

    Well, add another con to the list. They made the contracts way too short and it basically makes it pointless to go out and pursue any good players because their contracts don't last very long. My Tom Brady card lasted 4 games and I just had to use a contract extension card to keep him for 3 more games which is basically valued at about 1000 coins. When you are getting around 400 pts a game, you'll basically be getting just enough to re-sign 1 guy after 3 games. In 4 games, I have to re-sign Brady, Meriweather, Bunkley, my LT, Umenyiora, Demeco ryans, Kerry Rhodes, and Ricky Williams (which will cost around 8000 coins). A game after that I have another 8 guys that I have to re-sign. What's screwed about all of this, you lose the card if you don't extend them — and I got all these guys from 2 decks of cards that cost a total of 6000 coins.

    Basically what I'm getting from this is that it is 2-4 times more expensive to continue to keep the same team as it is to just keep cycling in new guys every 4-8 games. Which sucks. Also, it makes Platinum decks essentially impossible to reach without buying coins with MS points, and there's no way you could afford to keep a whole pack worth of those guys for much longer than 4 games either, so what's the point?

    I mean, if its gonna be like that, then this ish is stupid — it's not like I can't just go do "Create-a-team" and pick whoever I want, or a fantasy draft.

  • tekknikal

    Well, add another con to the list. They made the contracts way too short and it basically makes it pointless to go out and pursue any good players because their contracts don't last very long. My Tom Brady card lasted 4 games and I just had to use a contract extension card to keep him for 3 more games which is basically valued at about 1000 coins. When you are getting around 400 pts a game, you'll basically be getting just enough to re-sign 1 guy after 3 games. In 4 games, I have to re-sign Brady, Meriweather, Bunkley, my LT, Umenyiora, Demeco ryans, Kerry Rhodes, and Ricky Williams (which will cost around 8000 coins). A game after that I have another 8 guys that I have to re-sign. What's screwed about all of this, you lose the card if you don't extend them — and I got all these guys from 2 decks of cards that cost a total of 6000 coins.

    Basically what I'm getting from this is that it is 2-4 times more expensive to continue to keep the same team as it is to just keep cycling in new guys every 4-8 games. Which sucks. Also, it makes Platinum decks essentially impossible to reach without buying coins with MS points, and there's no way you could afford to keep a whole pack worth of those guys for much longer than 4 games either, so what's the point?

    I mean, if its gonna be like that, then this ish is stupid — it's not like I can't just go do "Create-a-team" and pick whoever I want, or a fantasy draft.

  • jeff

    where the hell is the NEW DAMN ROSTER UPDATE DETAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jeff

    where the hell is the NEW DAMN ROSTER UPDATE DETAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • fool

    use firefox and ad-block plus retard get with the times fool

  • fool

    use firefox and ad-block plus retard get with the times fool

  • dem'boyz4life

    still havn't bought a card pack… anybody know how many players come in a pack?

  • dem'boyz4life

    still havn't bought a card pack… anybody know how many players come in a pack?

  • sharkk

    i mean coins not cards

  • sharkk

    i bought cards to buy a pack and it wasnt downloading so i went to the dashboard and it downloaded then i went back in to the game and my coins werent there did this happen to anyone else

  • sharkk

    i bought cards to buy a pack and it wasnt downloading so i went to the dashboard and it downloaded then i went back in to the game and my coins werent there did this happen to anyone else

  • sharkk

    i mean coins not cards

  • yang0944

    Yes… happened to me as well, except i exited out of the download screen and went back to purchase a new pack thinking the last pack didn't go through and got two packs of gold instead. I haven't played too much yet, just three games, but if those cards disappear into thin air after the player's contract is over then this sh*t is whack. I'll stick to fantasy drafting or using my cupcake created teams in dynasty mode instead, L.A. does need a franchise.

  • yang0944

    Yes… happened to me as well, except i exited out of the download screen and went back to purchase a new pack thinking the last pack didn't go through and got two packs of gold instead. I haven't played too much yet, just three games, but if those cards disappear into thin air after the player's contract is over then this sh*t is whack. I'll stick to fantasy drafting or using my cupcake created teams in dynasty mode instead, L.A. does need a franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000218123756 Victor Moreno

    someone quit on me and i still got points 400

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000218123756 Victor Moreno

    someone quit on me and i still got points 400

  • michael

    if it didnt have contracts i would play it. once you have a card you should have it forever. and get rid of the limit of cards you can have

  • michael

    if it didnt have contracts i would play it. once you have a card you should have it forever. and get rid of the limit of cards you can have

  • tekknikal

    yep, they obviously made the contract cards to keep you having to pump money in to to the system, but i think they didn't do the math right on the rarity of contract cards. they need to rework how they work. maybe make the contract cards so that they have way more uses and then make it so that you can divide the uses to multiple players.

  • tekknikal

    yep, they obviously made the contract cards to keep you having to pump money in to to the system, but i think they didn't do the math right on the rarity of contract cards. they need to rework how they work. maybe make the contract cards so that they have way more uses and then make it so that you can divide the uses to multiple players.

  • nickyp

    dennis dixon to johnny knox all day

  • nickyp

    dennis dixon to johnny knox all day

  • JR127

    I actually like the fact that you start off with scrubs and earn a good team. You dont have to worry about the cheesers for a while which is a big plus. I have J.P.W. as well and he's garbage. I'm gonna go after Chris Redman

  • JR127

    I actually like the fact that you start off with scrubs and earn a good team. You dont have to worry about the cheesers for a while which is a big plus. I have J.P.W. as well and he's garbage. I'm gonna go after Chris Redman

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    I think its because, like me, some people go into it wanting to play real games and take on the challenge at the start. Thats tough with this group of players. But that is when I figured out that 1 min quarters was the way to go to start building and then move into the real games.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    I think its because, like me, some people go into it wanting to play real games and take on the challenge at the start. Thats tough with this group of players. But that is when I figured out that 1 min quarters was the way to go to start building and then move into the real games.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chonch84 chonch84

    Definatley dont hav ethe patience for this. I want real teams with real rosters, dont like living in la la land with a thrown together team. I hate fantasy drafts in franchise mode so i really dont think i would like this since i have to put time in to get the cards or shell out cash.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chonch84 chonch84

    Definatley dont hav ethe patience for this. I want real teams with real rosters, dont like living in la la land with a thrown together team. I hate fantasy drafts in franchise mode so i really dont think i would like this since i have to put time in to get the cards or shell out cash.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

    I like the MUT. It provides an alternative way to play Madden. Although there may be time invested in earning cards, you are doing what the developers want — adding shelf life to the game…

    Pretty cool feature that can be expanded upon in future Madden's….I agree that I would like a TeamBuilder mode so you can design your own uniforms and maybe a StadiumBuilder that would allow expanded customization of user-created stadiums….(If EA creates StadiumBuilder, I want royalties…hahaha)….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

    I like the MUT. It provides an alternative way to play Madden. Although there may be time invested in earning cards, you are doing what the developers want — adding shelf life to the game…

    Pretty cool feature that can be expanded upon in future Madden's….I agree that I would like a TeamBuilder mode so you can design your own uniforms and maybe a StadiumBuilder that would allow expanded customization of user-created stadiums….(If EA creates StadiumBuilder, I want royalties…hahaha)….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

    "…buy at least two or three packs yourself to get off the ground and then start playing games from there."

    No thanks…I've paid enough for Madden already.

    I like having to build up a team, but not a team with third- and fourth-string guys. You should get at least one or two somewhat solid players so it's more enjoyable to play. Using J.P. Wilson to Ruvelle Martin as your only offensive threat isn't all that great.

  • Reuille

    I noticed that either my D-Line was really good or there is some glitch. (I'm going glitch) My LE broke the sack record in a game with 3 min quarters. I was playing against the Browns but still… I am addicted to it. I think it is fun to work for the big packs. My only down side is loosing your players, you need more contract cards and those only work for one player.

  • Reuille

    I noticed that either my D-Line was really good or there is some glitch. (I'm going glitch) My LE broke the sack record in a game with 3 min quarters. I was playing against the Browns but still… I am addicted to it. I think it is fun to work for the big packs. My only down side is loosing your players, you need more contract cards and those only work for one player.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

    "…buy at least two or three packs yourself to get off the ground and then start playing games from there."

    No thanks…I've paid enough for Madden already.

    I like having to build up a team, but not a team with third- and fourth-string guys. You should get at least one or two somewhat solid players so it's more enjoyable to play. Using J.P. Wilson to Ruvelle Martin as your only offensive threat isn't all that great.

  • llcmac

    This update breaks content I paid extra for.

    I downloaded the Ultimate team patch, which I couldn't care less about and none of the accelerators work now. They are in the wrong spots and when I can even get one of them to work it doesn't work on the correct player (tried boosting Ernie Sims, it boosted someone in the draft instead.)

  • llcmac

    This update breaks content I paid extra for.

    I downloaded the Ultimate team patch, which I couldn't care less about and none of the accelerators work now. They are in the wrong spots and when I can even get one of them to work it doesn't work on the correct player (tried boosting Ernie Sims, it boosted someone in the draft instead.)

  • angry consumer

    The worst part is the play books that are forced on you there is no way i will continue to play this mode it sucks

  • angry consumer

    The worst part is the play books that are forced on you there is no way i will continue to play this mode it sucks

  • boys

    news on the roster update?

  • boys

    news on the roster update?

  • CrimsonVoodoo

    I think it's an interesting "first pass" with a lot of potential. I agree some tweaking needs to be done with contract length and coins earned – not sure they've got that quite figured out.

    I strongly dislike the mismash of playing as "my" team, wearing another team's uniform, playing in yet another team's stadium. I also think the idea of not allowing for playing friends is absurd – the nature of this game is perfect for playing people you know and comparing your GM skills building a roster. Nice foundation – let's see what they do with it

  • CrimsonVoodoo

    I think it's an interesting "first pass" with a lot of potential. I agree some tweaking needs to be done with contract length and coins earned – not sure they've got that quite figured out.

    I strongly dislike the mismash of playing as "my" team, wearing another team's uniform, playing in yet another team's stadium. I also think the idea of not allowing for playing friends is absurd – the nature of this game is perfect for playing people you know and comparing your GM skills building a roster. Nice foundation – let's see what they do with it

  • http://www.facebook.com/burgo26 Lachlan Burgess

    you're dreamin buddy

  • http://www.facebook.com/burgo26 Lachlan Burgess

    you're dreamin buddy

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

    http://tinyurl.com/ydfoo2n

    From EA Sports' Twitter page.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sroeland sroeland

    http://tinyurl.com/ydfoo2n

    From EA Sports' Twitter page.

  • titans fan

    omg the worstroster update in life just came out no vy love no wess welker injury alot of people were not even ooked at unless on a espn highlight

  • titans fan

    omg the worstroster update in life just came out no vy love no wess welker injury alot of people were not even ooked at unless on a espn highlight

  • titans fan

    no it was the worst roster update ever no vy love no one on titans except cj and the hawk they forgot about us

  • titans fan

    no it was the worst roster update ever no vy love no one on titans except cj and the hawk they forgot about us

  • Freak Nasty 210

    dude… nobody will play this shit in about a week because it is impossible to keep your team together… contracts end way too fast and there is no possible way to get enough contract cards to keep from losing everybody on your team…

  • Freak Nasty 210

    dude… nobody will play this shit in about a week because it is impossible to keep your team together… contracts end way too fast and there is no possible way to get enough contract cards to keep from losing everybody on your team…

  • DJ Reisinger

    this is the prob with this new mode each game u lay does not give u enough points i scored 90 points and shut out all 4 of the guys i played online but my team is ranked 90 overall cuz i spent 10$ on packs money grab tho but w/e what needs to be done is each game u play instead of earning 500points if u score around 80points or more ina game u should earn 5000points so u can buy packs faster so we can get alot of good games going if not this mode is pointless cuz i am not wasting money on somthing that is broken so EA we kno u need the money cuz u suck at what u do but plz fix this shit to where we can earn more then 500points for blowing ppl out 100 points or more per game damn,,,,

  • DJ Reisinger

    this is the prob with this new mode each game u lay does not give u enough points i scored 90 points and shut out all 4 of the guys i played online but my team is ranked 90 overall cuz i spent 10$ on packs money grab tho but w/e what needs to be done is each game u play instead of earning 500points if u score around 80points or more ina game u should earn 5000points so u can buy packs faster so we can get alot of good games going if not this mode is pointless cuz i am not wasting money on somthing that is broken so EA we kno u need the money cuz u suck at what u do but plz fix this shit to where we can earn more then 500points for blowing ppl out 100 points or more per game damn,,,,

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/DarthObvious DarthObvious

    Unless I missed it, can you not change the weather at all? (At least in online games) Nor does it even do anything nice like take the real local time and weather, so you are always playing a sunny afternoon. BORING.

  • CJ2K

    Roster Update??? CJ to 100 speed, 99 ovr? VY up to like 90 maybe?

  • Football-know-it-all

    They are gone…..period

  • CJ2K

    Roster Update??? CJ to 100 speed, 99 ovr? VY up to like 90 maybe?

  • Football-know-it-all

    They are gone…..period

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/DarthObvious DarthObvious

    Unless I missed it, can you not change the weather at all? (At least in online games) Nor does it even do anything nice like take the real local time and weather, so you are always playing a sunny afternoon. BORING.

  • Woody

    EA knows nothing about trading card games. Why would you buy packs of bad, good, or great players. It should just be one pack with some bad, some good, and then a random great or even legendary player. That is how this shit works.

  • Woody

    EA knows nothing about trading card games. Why would you buy packs of bad, good, or great players. It should just be one pack with some bad, some good, and then a random great or even legendary player. That is how this shit works.

  • definitely**

    so don't play

  • definitely**

    so don't play

  • totally agree, they are rare cards because they rarely are in a pack, not buy a whole pack of rares cause u can spend10 bucks on MS poitns

  • totally agree, they are rare cards because they rarely are in a pack, not buy a whole pack of rares cause u can spend10 bucks on MS poitns

  • Rude Boy

    Woody is right there should be some random packs but I think they didn't add that option so u cld fill ur roster w bench players instead of renewing their contracts the passing complaint I'm not on board with when it comes down to it run the ball!!! Its basic H.S football @ 1st its pretty cool. I'm enjoying MUT its a challenge & if ur smart u'll look on the auction block & scoop some decent players for 190-300 coins

  • Rude Boy

    Woody is right there should be some random packs but I think they didn't add that option so u cld fill ur roster w bench players instead of renewing their contracts the passing complaint I'm not on board with when it comes down to it run the ball!!! Its basic H.S football @ 1st its pretty cool. I'm enjoying MUT its a challenge & if ur smart u'll look on the auction block & scoop some decent players for 190-300 coins

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    12.. I finally bought another bronze pack because I figured I'd lose too many players before I could afford a silver pack. I like playing for it, but it can be frustrating sometimes.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    12.. I finally bought another bronze pack because I figured I'd lose too many players before I could afford a silver pack. I like playing for it, but it can be frustrating sometimes.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    if you're beating people 90-nothing, despite your "skillz", you're a dick.

  • kRis

    This is why you can't put out skilled games. People like to dominate & want to build a Fantasy all star team. When you make people use skills and play with less talented squads they complain like little girls. This is a great addition but the little girls on this site will have a hissy fit cuz they can't make a 99 across the board team.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    if you're beating people 90-nothing, despite your "skillz", you're a dick.

  • kRis

    This is why you can't put out skilled games. People like to dominate & want to build a Fantasy all star team. When you make people use skills and play with less talented squads they complain like little girls. This is a great addition but the little girls on this site will have a hissy fit cuz they can't make a 99 across the board team.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    I played 3 off-line games last night. Played aganist the Browns, Rams, 49ers (only played them because I thought I had to play whoever randomly popped up. killed me 31-3). The problem is, even playing a 67 rated team like the Rams, once or twice the 95-rated Steven Jackson WILL shred your starter pack. He got 2 LONG runs (one of 86 yds) but other than that we held him in check and kept the game fairly close. Anyway.. end result last night … 0-3.

    But my question is.. if you play online… are you sure to play someone in your packs' class… or are you randomly put up against anyone including fools who spent $10 on their team like the dickweed who posted earlier? If you're not playing similar teams, then I doubt I have the patience to EVER take this online.

    One thing I didn't realize was that I could turn down the playing time. My games last night were with 7minute quarters. Might turn that down to 4 or 5 minutes (1 minutes just seems too cheap)… I actually like playing with the scrubs for a while because I know if I ever get that 1st win I'll jump outta my chair!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    I played 3 off-line games last night. Played aganist the Browns, Rams, 49ers (only played them because I thought I had to play whoever randomly popped up. killed me 31-3). The problem is, even playing a 67 rated team like the Rams, once or twice the 95-rated Steven Jackson WILL shred your starter pack. He got 2 LONG runs (one of 86 yds) but other than that we held him in check and kept the game fairly close. Anyway.. end result last night … 0-3.

    But my question is.. if you play online… are you sure to play someone in your packs' class… or are you randomly put up against anyone including fools who spent $10 on their team like the dickweed who posted earlier? If you're not playing similar teams, then I doubt I have the patience to EVER take this online.

    One thing I didn't realize was that I could turn down the playing time. My games last night were with 7minute quarters. Might turn that down to 4 or 5 minutes (1 minutes just seems too cheap)… I actually like playing with the scrubs for a while because I know if I ever get that 1st win I'll jump outta my chair!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Yeah… I like playing with the scrubs. Just like in real life, I have Rex Grossman throwing a pick-6 in EACH of my 3 games!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Yeah… I like playing with the scrubs. Just like in real life, I have Rex Grossman throwing a pick-6 in EACH of my 3 games!

  • Rude Boy

    No ur not but just leave till you have some1 with a similar rating & its not possible to conceal ur rosters by putting in the scrubs then subbing in ur stars its a nice addition I suggest that you play online most dudes I played try to pass it lol so u can kill em with the run

  • Rude Boy

    No ur not but just leave till you have some1 with a similar rating & its not possible to conceal ur rosters by putting in the scrubs then subbing in ur stars its a nice addition I suggest that you play online most dudes I played try to pass it lol so u can kill em with the run

  • Rude Boy

    Ok found a glaring flaw you can only use a contract card for one player on average you only get 1 contract card per pack so ur gonna end up losing a lot of players bc to get more coins you have to play them but if you play them you lose em don't like that what happens if I lose a lot of players & don't have a full roster?!?

  • Rude Boy

    Ok found a glaring flaw you can only use a contract card for one player on average you only get 1 contract card per pack so ur gonna end up losing a lot of players bc to get more coins you have to play them but if you play them you lose em don't like that what happens if I lose a lot of players & don't have a full roster?!?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    yeah.. I'm more of a run 1st guy. Had SOME success last night using Lex Hilliard. But you have to know the players a bit. Lex is a tank runner, so I stayed away from sweeps and such. Only has "80" speed.

    I'll try tonight. Thanks.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    yeah.. I'm more of a run 1st guy. Had SOME success last night using Lex Hilliard. But you have to know the players a bit. Lex is a tank runner, so I stayed away from sweeps and such. Only has "80" speed.

    I'll try tonight. Thanks.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    I'm guessing this was set up to make you buy a few more bronze packs, which I did last night because I was worried about running out of players. They have the longer 10 game contracts while the better players seem to only have 4 games. In that way, unless you're paying for it, it will be harder to maintain a superstar group for a long time.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    I'm guessing this was set up to make you buy a few more bronze packs, which I did last night because I was worried about running out of players. They have the longer 10 game contracts while the better players seem to only have 4 games. In that way, unless you're paying for it, it will be harder to maintain a superstar group for a long time.

  • jason

    looking at the new roster update makes me sick! why does mark sanchez get an increase!! lmao wtf? nnamdi asomugha gets a decrease? no love for zach miller hes been an 87 since the first update 66 catches? no love for chaz? wow you guys no nothing about football

  • jason

    looking at the new roster update makes me sick! why does mark sanchez get an increase!! lmao wtf? nnamdi asomugha gets a decrease? no love for zach miller hes been an 87 since the first update 66 catches? no love for chaz? wow you guys no nothing about football

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Did he have only one game on his contract?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Thats not supposed to happen, I'll check in with them and see what its showing up so often.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Thats not supposed to happen, I'll check in with them and see what its showing up so often.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/pastapadre pastapadre

    Did he have only one game on his contract?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Zach Miller is fine at an 87. If you can't make an 87-rated tight end snag 66 catches in a season, you must "no" nothing about football yourself.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Zach Miller is fine at an 87. If you can't make an 87-rated tight end snag 66 catches in a season, you must "no" nothing about football yourself.

  • 99speed

    I think its fun, I'll spend more time with it this weekend. I think its great EA is doing stuff like this because franchise mode is getting boring.

  • 99speed

    I think its fun, I'll spend more time with it this weekend. I think its great EA is doing stuff like this because franchise mode is getting boring.

  • EA customer^^

    AHAHAHA you spent $10 on this

    You just got punked

  • EA customer^^

    AHAHAHA you spent $10 on this

    You just got punked

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Yeah.. he spent $10 for the "pleasure" of beating fools 90-NOTHING. I honestly can't believe they stayed online that long.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Yeah.. he spent $10 for the "pleasure" of beating fools 90-NOTHING. I honestly can't believe they stayed online that long.

  • Kings

    Another reason for more people to try and dissconnect others

  • Kings

    Another reason for more people to try and dissconnect others

  • DJ Reisinger

    first of all dont matter if i payed or not i play this game online and am one of the top players witha record of 130-2 so w/e both my losses comming from dc plus before i payed i won with thatc rap team it gave me 80-0 so just shows how bad u r to tlak shit when u dont kno anything 10$ is nothing to get a 90 overall team to try somthing new but like i said before they need to fix this coins gain shit 500 per game is nothing and playing for 8 hrs to get a gold pack fuck that

  • DJ Reisinger

    first of all dont matter if i payed or not i play this game online and am one of the top players witha record of 130-2 so w/e both my losses comming from dc plus before i payed i won with thatc rap team it gave me 80-0 so just shows how bad u r to tlak shit when u dont kno anything 10$ is nothing to get a 90 overall team to try somthing new but like i said before they need to fix this coins gain shit 500 per game is nothing and playing for 8 hrs to get a gold pack fuck that

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    If you can consistently beat people like that… what's the point? If you are "one of the top players".. why don't you ever play one of the other top players who could give you a challenge? I'd be bored pissless with the game. Tells me a lot about your character.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    If you can consistently beat people like that… what's the point? If you are "one of the top players".. why don't you ever play one of the other top players who could give you a challenge? I'd be bored pissless with the game. Tells me a lot about your character.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    I never said I was any good.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    I never said I was any good.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    BTW.. I can hardly understand what the hell you're saying. I bet I'd kick your ass in a Punctuation Contest.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    BTW.. I can hardly understand what the hell you're saying. I bet I'd kick your ass in a Punctuation Contest.

  • CUMmings

    EA is a bunch of money hungry commies…we payed $65 for the game already and now you're tryna get us to pay fro franchise boosters and madden cards? We in a recession dammit!

    *puts up flameshield*

  • CUMmings

    EA is a bunch of money hungry commies…we payed $65 for the game already and now you're tryna get us to pay fro franchise boosters and madden cards? We in a recession dammit!

    *puts up flameshield*

  • joeybuttafuko

    lol for sure

  • joeybuttafuko

    lol for sure

  • Aaron

    I am bored after two days. I refuse to buy packs with real money but it seems nearly impossible to upgrade your team without doing so. I run out of contact cards quickly, then replace mediocre players with worse players. Bought a silver pack, but most of the players will be gone before I can buy another, and they aren't that much of an upgrade beyond the starter and bronze packs. The contract cards need to go. What the hell was EA thinking! Oh wait, they are just trying to make money.

  • Aaron

    I am bored after two days. I refuse to buy packs with real money but it seems nearly impossible to upgrade your team without doing so. I run out of contact cards quickly, then replace mediocre players with worse players. Bought a silver pack, but most of the players will be gone before I can buy another, and they aren't that much of an upgrade beyond the starter and bronze packs. The contract cards need to go. What the hell was EA thinking! Oh wait, they are just trying to make money.

  • tekknikal

    Yeah, if I could choose between beating anyone at any video game for the rest of my life by an embarrassing margin vs being able to express myself in English and make any sense whatsoever, I'd definitely take the latter.

    You may be 500-2, but you still sound like an idiot when you start typing. (DJ Reisinger, not darkheath)

  • tekknikal

    Yeah, if I could choose between beating anyone at any video game for the rest of my life by an embarrassing margin vs being able to express myself in English and make any sense whatsoever, I'd definitely take the latter.

    You may be 500-2, but you still sound like an idiot when you start typing. (DJ Reisinger, not darkheath)

  • tekknikal

    The reality though, is that you really do get an all star squad, and very quickly. The problem is, you can't keep it intact for more than 4-8 games. That is where this is flawed. They need to make the good players more rare, and the contracts much longer. I have a 93 OVR team after one night of gaming and working the auctions. I would EASILY trade it in for a team somewhere around 85 of players that I could actually hold on to for more than a handful of games. Problem is it costs 3-4 times more to extend their contracts than to just go buy a fresh card of the same player at auction. SOOOO DUMB.

  • tekknikal

    The reality though, is that you really do get an all star squad, and very quickly. The problem is, you can't keep it intact for more than 4-8 games. That is where this is flawed. They need to make the good players more rare, and the contracts much longer. I have a 93 OVR team after one night of gaming and working the auctions. I would EASILY trade it in for a team somewhere around 85 of players that I could actually hold on to for more than a handful of games. Problem is it costs 3-4 times more to extend their contracts than to just go buy a fresh card of the same player at auction. SOOOO DUMB.

  • Josh

    Sounds to me like you all suck with strategy. My team is ranked 94 overall. All my star players have 14-20 days left. Including my legendary ed reed from 2004 that beasts it up. My secondary is Charles Woodson, Champ Bailey, Darell Revis and Ed Reed. (Revis is playing free for me)

  • tekknikal

    Its pretty crappy… it just sticks you with randoms. Which not only sucks for those with bad teams, but I had built my team up to about 87 last night when I finally decided to go online and I couldn't find another team that wasn't 63 for the life of me. I finally gave up and played some guy with a starter pack and it was retarded, no fun at all.

    Oh well, thank god there's online franchise. This was a nice distraction for like 5 hours until I realized how much it sucked.

  • Josh

    Sounds to me like you all suck with strategy. My team is ranked 94 overall. All my star players have 14-20 days left. Including my legendary ed reed from 2004 that beasts it up. My secondary is Charles Woodson, Champ Bailey, Darell Revis and Ed Reed. (Revis is playing free for me)

  • tekknikal

    Its pretty crappy… it just sticks you with randoms. Which not only sucks for those with bad teams, but I had built my team up to about 87 last night when I finally decided to go online and I couldn't find another team that wasn't 63 for the life of me. I finally gave up and played some guy with a starter pack and it was retarded, no fun at all.

    Oh well, thank god there's online franchise. This was a nice distraction for like 5 hours until I realized how much it sucked.

  • tekknikal

    I see a lot of you guys complaining about being stuck with the starter pack team.

    The reality though, is that you really do get an all star squad, and very quickly. The problem is, you can't keep it intact for more than 4-8 games. That is where this is flawed. They need to make the good players more rare, and the contracts much longer. I have a 93 OVR team after one night of gaming and cherry picking deals on auction and reselling them at full price. But, I would EASILY trade it in for a team somewhere around 85 of players that I could actually hold on to for more than a handful of games. Problem is it costs 3-4 times more to extend their contracts than to just go buy a fresh card of the same player at auction. SOOOO DUMB.

  • tekknikal

    I see a lot of you guys complaining about being stuck with the starter pack team.

    The reality though, is that you really do get an all star squad, and very quickly. The problem is, you can't keep it intact for more than 4-8 games. That is where this is flawed. They need to make the good players more rare, and the contracts much longer. I have a 93 OVR team after one night of gaming and cherry picking deals on auction and reselling them at full price. But, I would EASILY trade it in for a team somewhere around 85 of players that I could actually hold on to for more than a handful of games. Problem is it costs 3-4 times more to extend their contracts than to just go buy a fresh card of the same player at auction. SOOOO DUMB.

  • tekknikal

    Strategy, really? Your star players have 14-20 days left? My team was ranked 93 OVR (before I got rid of some guys because it was TOO stacked), but there was no way for me to really extend their contracts like that.

    Sorry, I have a hard time believing you were able to build contracts like that without paying MS points. At that point, what kind of strategy is that?

  • tekknikal

    Strategy, really? Your star players have 14-20 days left? My team was ranked 93 OVR (before I got rid of some guys because it was TOO stacked), but there was no way for me to really extend their contracts like that.

    Sorry, I have a hard time believing you were able to build contracts like that without paying MS points. At that point, what kind of strategy is that?

  • Keith.

    I can't believe people are paying EA even more money to play Madden.

    Suckers!!!

  • Keith.

    I can't believe people are paying EA even more money to play Madden.

    Suckers!!!

  • Peanut

    tekknikal maybe it's just you who suck! Guys like you complain and whine and bitch and moan maybe it's you need to grow a pair

  • Peanut

    tekknikal maybe it's just you who suck! Guys like you complain and whine and bitch and moan maybe it's you need to grow a pair

  • Roy

    I just don't like how you can pay real money to make your team better. You know there are people already with the best every position has to offer ready to face somebody's just created team online. Other than that this is a pretty good idea

  • Roy

    I just don't like how you can pay real money to make your team better. You know there are people already with the best every position has to offer ready to face somebody's just created team online. Other than that this is a pretty good idea

  • start your back ups so you can earn coins for your better players

  • start your back ups so you can earn coins for your better players

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Zach Miller is fine at an 87. If you can't make an 87-rated tight end snag 66 catches in a season, you must "no" nothing about football yourself.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/darkheath darkheath

    Zach Miller is fine at an 87. If you can't make an 87-rated tight end snag 66 catches in a season, you must "no" nothing about football yourself.

  • DJ Reisinger

    dude its cuz your bad i played the rams my first game with the start pack and won 80-0…

  • DJ Reisinger

    dude its cuz your bad i played the rams my first game with the start pack and won 80-0…

  • Guest

    All the different packs should at times have "rare" good or great players in them! Just like when you collected cards as a kid. You should be able to buy a bronze pack and occasionally end up with something good or even great. I think that would make this much more exciting.

  • Guest

    All the different packs should at times have "rare" good or great players in them! Just like when you collected cards as a kid. You should be able to buy a bronze pack and occasionally end up with something good or even great. I think that would make this much more exciting.

  • Guest

    I totally agree! Really like this concept but the frustration of the team being dismantled constantly because you cant score enough coins to keep buying decent players is eventually going to kill the fun for me

  • Guest

    I totally agree! Really like this concept but the frustration of the team being dismantled constantly because you cant score enough coins to keep buying decent players is eventually going to kill the fun for me

  • Guest

    I agree…calling BS on this nonsense…

  • Guest

    I agree…calling BS on this nonsense…

  • Guest

    EXACTLY. RIDICULOUS. Maybe just up the odds of getting good cards in the silver and gold packs…not make it exclusive.

  • Guest

    EXACTLY. RIDICULOUS. Maybe just up the odds of getting good cards in the silver and gold packs…not make it exclusive.

  • tekknikal

    good job totally missing the point. what i was trying to say was that i was having a hard time finding an opponent that didnt have a starter pack and when i finally gave in and played someone that did, it was no fun at all because it was TOO EASY. moron.

  • tekknikal

    good job totally missing the point. what i was trying to say was that i was having a hard time finding an opponent that didnt have a starter pack and when i finally gave in and played someone that did, it was no fun at all because it was TOO EASY. moron.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/rfwill13 rfwill13

    I found out that if you use my skill and 3 minute quarters it will not take away coins and its still semi easy to win the games. I won 24-7 against the Rams and got 345 coins.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/rfwill13 rfwill13

    I found out that if you use my skill and 3 minute quarters it will not take away coins and its still semi easy to win the games. I won 24-7 against the Rams and got 345 coins.

  • Ian

    I've seen teams that are just stacked… I only spent $6.25 (500 MS) on my team, and I've been beating teams that were obviously purcahsed with over 16000 MS, because they had crazy teams like… Welker, Randy, Wayne, Jennings, and Clark @ TE with Brady @ QB and MJD @ RB. I stil beat him because it's not about who you got it's about how you use them. Now don't get me wrong… your not marching in with a starter pack and beating a 96 overall team… but you can still put it on pro with 1 min quaters and by the end of the night you should have a respectable team.

  • Ian

    I've seen teams that are just stacked… I only spent $6.25 (500 MS) on my team, and I've been beating teams that were obviously purcahsed with over 16000 MS, because they had crazy teams like… Welker, Randy, Wayne, Jennings, and Clark @ TE with Brady @ QB and MJD @ RB. I stil beat him because it's not about who you got it's about how you use them. Now don't get me wrong… your not marching in with a starter pack and beating a 96 overall team… but you can still put it on pro with 1 min quaters and by the end of the night you should have a respectable team.

  • sucker

    Lol how much of your mom's money did you waste on this shit?

  • sucker

    Lol how much of your mom's money did you waste on this shit?

  • Fix this mode please

    This is such a good idea that is beyond poorly executed by EA. Go figure. They FUBAR'd this pretty badly.

    Firstly, it's impossible to keep a team together. The contracts & contract cards are out of whack and so retarded. What they need to do:

    1. There should be a Gold (rare) card of every player in the game. These cards should be unlimited contract (aka they never expire)

    2. Fix the packs. What sort of epic moron thought up the bronze, silver, and gold packs where in each pack it's all that rarity? LOL epic fail. Right now there should be 2 different packs at most. 1 pack is what most people in the game buy and should consist of 9 bronze, 2 silver, and 1 gold (with good player's gold cards obviously being a lot rarer and harder to get than scrub gold cards because in my game gold cards don't have contracts). If they wanted to make a 2nd pack that was a lot more expensive and geared towards people who play, that for instance gives you a good chance of receiving a Legendary card than they could do that too.

    3. The guidelines for which you earn coins in-game is ridiculous. This has to be fixed asap. It should be more like the old Maddens for when you reach certain milestones and do certain accomplishments you get those points and then difficulty setting is the multiplier.

    4. Agghhh so many things wrong with this, fix the above mentioned things and it will be at least fun.

    As I said in the beginning, awesome idea, terrible execution. Can't decide if EA is really just as incompetent as they seem or are actually just greedy like they seem or both.

  • Fix this mode please

    This is such a good idea that is beyond poorly executed by EA. Go figure. They FUBAR'd this pretty badly.

    Firstly, it's impossible to keep a team together. The contracts & contract cards are out of whack and so retarded. What they need to do:

    1. There should be a Gold (rare) card of every player in the game. These cards should be unlimited contract (aka they never expire)

    2. Fix the packs. What sort of epic moron thought up the bronze, silver, and gold packs where in each pack it's all that rarity? LOL epic fail. Right now there should be 2 different packs at most. 1 pack is what most people in the game buy and should consist of 9 bronze, 2 silver, and 1 gold (with good player's gold cards obviously being a lot rarer and harder to get than scrub gold cards because in my game gold cards don't have contracts). If they wanted to make a 2nd pack that was a lot more expensive and geared towards people who play, that for instance gives you a good chance of receiving a Legendary card than they could do that too.

    3. The guidelines for which you earn coins in-game is ridiculous. This has to be fixed asap. It should be more like the old Maddens for when you reach certain milestones and do certain accomplishments you get those points and then difficulty setting is the multiplier.

    4. Agghhh so many things wrong with this, fix the above mentioned things and it will be at least fun.

    As I said in the beginning, awesome idea, terrible execution. Can't decide if EA is really just as incompetent as they seem or are actually just greedy like they seem or both.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chonch84 chonch84

    Yea obviously** i wont be smart guy with no name, its my opinion of this waste of time add on. If you dont like it dont read it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chonch84 chonch84

    Yea obviously** i wont be smart guy with no name, its my opinion of this waste of time add on. If you dont like it dont read it.

  • DJ Reisinger

    maybe is b/c i type faster then u and miss spell things sometimes plz i play this game maybe 3 times a week scince it came out bottom line is i have always owned at madden and i dont need to play it and i only play the top players in this game and still win so get over yourself haters b/c u all sound like idiots talking shit when u dont even kno me…

  • DJ Reisinger

    maybe is b/c i type faster then u and miss spell things sometimes plz i play this game maybe 3 times a week scince it came out bottom line is i have always owned at madden and i dont need to play it and i only play the top players in this game and still win so get over yourself haters b/c u all sound like idiots talking shit when u dont even kno me…

  • josh

    like he said, so don't play it then smart guy

  • josh

    like he said, so don't play it then smart guy

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chonch84 chonch84

    Like I said I wont be and I gave my reasons why i wont, like i told him, if you dont like my reasons dont read em.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/chonch84 chonch84

    Like I said I wont be and I gave my reasons why i wont, like i told him, if you dont like my reasons dont read em.

  • ribbz

    thanks EA for making it a mandatory update and adding an extra 286 MB to the game data…how about an optional add-on from the PS Store…

  • ribbz

    thanks EA for making it a mandatory update and adding an extra 286 MB to the game data…how about an optional add-on from the PS Store…

  • braden

    this is amazing my team skill is 95

  • peter

    This mode is fun to play, but EA makes it seem like their trying to make microsoft a shit load of money cuz u cant hold onto players without having to buy new packs every 10 games. which u dont even make enough coins for any way. atleast make a seperate pack of (30) contract extension cards for like 1500 coins or something. its physically impossible to have enough coins to keep ur depth chart up to date to play games with the team, without buying Microsoft points. and if u run out of coins to spend and u dont have enough players, it doesnt even let u start over. so then ur forced to buy microsoft points just to continue playing. damn EA what f***ing cheap bastards u are. oh yeah maybe u should make superstar mode better instead of worse for madden 11? u dumb f**ks

  • peter

    This mode is fun to play, but EA makes it seem like their trying to make microsoft a shit load of money cuz u cant hold onto players without having to buy new packs every 10 games. which u dont even make enough coins for any way. atleast make a seperate pack of (30) contract extension cards for like 1500 coins or something. its physically impossible to have enough coins to keep ur depth chart up to date to play games with the team, without buying Microsoft points. and if u run out of coins to spend and u dont have enough players, it doesnt even let u start over. so then ur forced to buy microsoft points just to continue playing. damn EA what f***ing cheap bastards u are. oh yeah maybe u should make superstar mode better instead of worse for madden 11? u dumb f**ks

  • braden

    this is amazing my team skill is 95

  • Rick

    So I'm not the only one who wasted 10 hours on this just to realize afte 10-15 games my whole team quits?

    Btw, I had 5 crashes mid game, each of which consumed a contract per player.

    Side note: anyone know what determines if the player is a "starter" and his contract is used? Second string qb doesn't seem to count against you but 2nd string rb did? Maybe has somethig to do with if they play even 1 down then it uses a contract? Hopefully ea will have abpatch soon to make this playable….I was initially very excited, now I'm all sorts of disappointed!

  • Rick

    So I'm not the only one who wasted 10 hours on this just to realize afte 10-15 games my whole team quits?

    Btw, I had 5 crashes mid game, each of which consumed a contract per player.

    Side note: anyone know what determines if the player is a "starter" and his contract is used? Second string qb doesn't seem to count against you but 2nd string rb did? Maybe has somethig to do with if they play even 1 down then it uses a contract? Hopefully ea will have abpatch soon to make this playable….I was initially very excited, now I'm all sorts of disappointed!

  • supaB!

    does anybody know how to delete the "DONE" offers?

  • supaB!

    does anybody know how to delete the "DONE" offers?

  • Roman

    The contract part needs to be fixed or have better instructions. Can I get a refund?

  • Roman

    The contract part needs to be fixed or have better instructions. Can I get a refund?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ferris ferris

    thats why you dont have to pay for it…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/ferris ferris

    thats why you dont have to pay for it…

  • Rick

    Update:

    2 posts ago I griefed about some aspects of the contracts. Here is what I've discovered:

    Seems that the contracts are deducted only when the play starts. "Starting" seems to classify as any card that shows up in the layout when setting your lineup, PLUS:

    4th WR
    2nd RB
    2nd DT

    So for instance, if you have 2 tight ends, and one subs in at some point during the game, he does not get deducted the contract point. However, if you have 2 RBs, both lose a point. I have not determined if the RB subbing in a some point triggers this or not. The same seems to apply to the 4th WR and 2nd DT. I confirmed this doesn't apply to the 5th or 6th WR.

    With that knowledge, it would seem the best way to play this is to have some bronze-level scrubs at your backup positions. This way, you are not wasting contract points on your gold guy sitting in reserve doing nothing.

    I also don't know if people are aware, but if you go to "weekly specials", and press L1/R1, you will eventually cycle to some always available specials. There is a contract card you can get for 750 coins that will extend Gold contracts for 15 games, and Legendary for 12 games. Calculating that you earn roughly 375 coins per game (it is very possible to earn much more if you play well), it seems you could infinitely maintain 7 stud (gold level) players on your team. So, in theory, you could maintain a payton manning/randy moss/adrian peterson trio and still have pleanty of coins left over. Since you can pick up bronze level guys for 5-15 coins all day long at the auction, it seems that is the way to go. Where it gets tricky is deciding what part of your team do you sacrifice…running, passing, o-line, d-line, pass d, ect. It seems you will only be able to keep 2 sub groups very stacked, given the 7-gold-player rule i stated earlier.

    IMO, this is very much like how the real NFL works. No team is stacked with everything. Enough rambling on my part…here is what needs to happen for them to make this work better:

    - Improve all interfaces, especially auction bidding interface (successfully winning an auction requires repeatedly exiting and reentering your "my bids" area, otherwise you cant see the updated price, and therefore barred from bidding)

    - Fix the glitch where crashing causes you to lose a contract point…at the cost of 750 for 15 gold contracts, that is essentially a 50 coin/gold card you own. With 10 gold players, this little "glitch" costs someone 500 coins. BS!

    - Make very clear which players in the roster will be deducted a contract point. The criteria is very fuzzy right now.

    - Do not lock player in "view new cards" windows forcing selling/discarding of cards when more than 55 are owned. This area of the game is very handicapped in seeing your overall team and making decisions, and makes it difficult to choose which cards to get rid of.

    In final thoughts, since MUT can cost real money, via purchase of packs, then EA should be prudent about eliminating bugs that essentially steal virtual product from the consumer, thus ripping us off. Otherwise, make the whole dang thing free across the board, and we can lose our right to complain.

  • Rick

    Update:

    2 posts ago I griefed about some aspects of the contracts. Here is what I've discovered:

    Seems that the contracts are deducted only when the play starts. "Starting" seems to classify as any card that shows up in the layout when setting your lineup, PLUS:

    4th WR
    2nd RB
    2nd DT

    So for instance, if you have 2 tight ends, and one subs in at some point during the game, he does not get deducted the contract point. However, if you have 2 RBs, both lose a point. I have not determined if the RB subbing in a some point triggers this or not. The same seems to apply to the 4th WR and 2nd DT. I confirmed this doesn't apply to the 5th or 6th WR.

    With that knowledge, it would seem the best way to play this is to have some bronze-level scrubs at your backup positions. This way, you are not wasting contract points on your gold guy sitting in reserve doing nothing.

    I also don't know if people are aware, but if you go to "weekly specials", and press L1/R1, you will eventually cycle to some always available specials. There is a contract card you can get for 750 coins that will extend Gold contracts for 15 games, and Legendary for 12 games. Calculating that you earn roughly 375 coins per game (it is very possible to earn much more if you play well), it seems you could infinitely maintain 7 stud (gold level) players on your team. So, in theory, you could maintain a payton manning/randy moss/adrian peterson trio and still have pleanty of coins left over. Since you can pick up bronze level guys for 5-15 coins all day long at the auction, it seems that is the way to go. Where it gets tricky is deciding what part of your team do you sacrifice…running, passing, o-line, d-line, pass d, ect. It seems you will only be able to keep 2 sub groups very stacked, given the 7-gold-player rule i stated earlier.

    IMO, this is very much like how the real NFL works. No team is stacked with everything. Enough rambling on my part…here is what needs to happen for them to make this work better:

    - Improve all interfaces, especially auction bidding interface (successfully winning an auction requires repeatedly exiting and reentering your "my bids" area, otherwise you cant see the updated price, and therefore barred from bidding)

    - Fix the glitch where crashing causes you to lose a contract point…at the cost of 750 for 15 gold contracts, that is essentially a 50 coin/gold card you own. With 10 gold players, this little "glitch" costs someone 500 coins. BS!

    - Make very clear which players in the roster will be deducted a contract point. The criteria is very fuzzy right now.

    - Do not lock player in "view new cards" windows forcing selling/discarding of cards when more than 55 are owned. This area of the game is very handicapped in seeing your overall team and making decisions, and makes it difficult to choose which cards to get rid of.

    In final thoughts, since MUT can cost real money, via purchase of packs, then EA should be prudent about eliminating bugs that essentially steal virtual product from the consumer, thus ripping us off. Otherwise, make the whole dang thing free across the board, and we can lose our right to complain.

  • Rick

    I don't think there is a way to clear it right now. This whole thing seems to be rushed code, with a good idea poorly executed. Expect several updates fixing all this very soon. And if you have purchased any content, I think you are probably entitled to refunds. I will be asking for one surely.

  • Rick

    I don't think there is a way to clear it right now. This whole thing seems to be rushed code, with a good idea poorly executed. Expect several updates fixing all this very soon. And if you have purchased any content, I think you are probably entitled to refunds. I will be asking for one surely.

  • BRION

    THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR EA TO MAKE MONEY! THE CONTRACTS ARE TOO SHORT AND YOU JUST LOSE YOUR CARDS THAT YOU WORKED YOUR ASS OFF TO GET! ONLY WAY TO KEEP ALL YOUR GOOD PEOPLE IS TO BUY MS POINTS! ITS A SETUP PERIOD!

  • BRION

    THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY FOR EA TO MAKE MONEY! THE CONTRACTS ARE TOO SHORT AND YOU JUST LOSE YOUR CARDS THAT YOU WORKED YOUR ASS OFF TO GET! ONLY WAY TO KEEP ALL YOUR GOOD PEOPLE IS TO BUY MS POINTS! ITS A SETUP PERIOD!

  • Rick

    I remembered one other issue I found….the 750 coin contract extension card I mentioned earlier has a 100 card buying limit, with no indicated reset of this limit. At the rate of buying one card every 2 games to maintain your gold card studs, that essentially means that after 200 games, your "ultimate team" is no longer sustainable.

  • Rick

    I remembered one other issue I found….the 750 coin contract extension card I mentioned earlier has a 100 card buying limit, with no indicated reset of this limit. At the rate of buying one card every 2 games to maintain your gold card studs, that essentially means that after 200 games, your "ultimate team" is no longer sustainable.

  • Chris

    Overall I'm pretty happy with it. But if you play online there are cheesers coming out of the wood work. Be warned.

  • Chris

    Overall I'm pretty happy with it. But if you play online there are cheesers coming out of the wood work. Be warned.

  • Keller

    Yup. I played a guy yesterday whos team overall was 64 but he had guys like CJ, Brady and Moss. I thought I was getting into an evenly matched game but really he just found a way to fool the system. Great. Avoid paying for this crap.

  • Keller

    Yup. I played a guy yesterday whos team overall was 64 but he had guys like CJ, Brady and Moss. I thought I was getting into an evenly matched game but really he just found a way to fool the system. Great. Avoid paying for this crap.

  • frogdor9

    i love starting off with no names…i didnt know you can choose your opponent so i played arizona on pro and it was a challenge to beat them but i was hooked after that game…i love this mode

  • frogdor9

    i love starting off with no names…i didnt know you can choose your opponent so i played arizona on pro and it was a challenge to beat them but i was hooked after that game…i love this mode

  • chonchlikes8====>

    nobody likes you

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    nobody likes you

  • Chris Christofferson

    Rick, this was the most helpful post I have read on MUT. You provided a thorough explanation of many facets of the game mode. Thank you for this. I second your notion that EA should : "- Make very clear which players in the roster will be deducted a contract point. The criteria is very fuzzy right now. "

    If I am reading your post correctly, teams could play any CB as the 4th/dime Corner with no contract penalties. I only have 2 contracts left for my gold card, CB Nate Clements. I would like to employ this strategy to keep him around…play Clements at dime back and stay in dime or dollar throughout the game!

  • Chris Christofferson

    Rick, this was the most helpful post I have read on MUT. You provided a thorough explanation of many facets of the game mode. Thank you for this. I second your notion that EA should : "- Make very clear which players in the roster will be deducted a contract point. The criteria is very fuzzy right now. "

    If I am reading your post correctly, teams could play any CB as the 4th/dime Corner with no contract penalties. I only have 2 contracts left for my gold card, CB Nate Clements. I would like to employ this strategy to keep him around…play Clements at dime back and stay in dime or dollar throughout the game!

  • Chris Christofferson

    How do you change your CPU opponent?

  • Chris Christofferson

    How do you change your CPU opponent?

  • Chris Christofferson

    How do you change your CPU opponent?

  • Chris Christofferson

    How do you change your CPU opponent?

  • Jonas Blane

    For those struggling with having enough coins to renew contracts and such, a great way to make coin is to flip underpriced players at the auction house. I have earned 700,000+ coins at the auction house by mainly buying underpriced WR's and selling them at their market value. Biggest score I got was finding a Legendary Fitz for 5000 coins, and selling him for 60,000. You will very frequently find a Legendary Welker on the auction house for less than 2000 coins… He will sell for at least 6000 coins if you leave him up there for a few hours. I now have the following team from this method… (I did buy 30,000 coins with MS Points at the start though).

    QB Leg. Culpepper, Leg. Brady, Leg. Vick
    RB Leg. Tomlinson, CJ2K, Leg Ricky WIlliams
    FB Tony Richardson, Leg. Lorenzo
    TE Leg Gates, Vernon Davis
    WR – Legendary Moss, Leg Marvin Harrison, Leg. Steve Smith, Leg. Santonio Holmes
    OL – Leg. Walter Jones, Leg. Steve Hutch, Leg. Matt Birk, Chris Snee, Leg. Orlando Pace
    DL – Leg. Freeney, Leg. Haynesworth, Kevin Williams, Leg. Jason Taylor
    LB – Leg. Derrick Brooks, Leg. Ray Lewis, Leg Julian Peterson(James Harrison comes in when I run the 4-4)
    CB – Leg. Bailey, Leg. Nnamdi, Leg. Woodson, Leg. Samuel, Champ Bailey
    S – Leg. Dawkins, Leg. Polamalu
    PR/KR – Leg. Devin Hester

  • Jonas Blane

    For those struggling with having enough coins to renew contracts and such, a great way to make coin is to flip underpriced players at the auction house. I have earned 700,000+ coins at the auction house by mainly buying underpriced WR's and selling them at their market value. Biggest score I got was finding a Legendary Fitz for 5000 coins, and selling him for 60,000. You will very frequently find a Legendary Welker on the auction house for less than 2000 coins… He will sell for at least 6000 coins if you leave him up there for a few hours. I now have the following team from this method… (I did buy 30,000 coins with MS Points at the start though).

    QB Leg. Culpepper, Leg. Brady, Leg. Vick
    RB Leg. Tomlinson, CJ2K, Leg Ricky WIlliams
    FB Tony Richardson, Leg. Lorenzo
    TE Leg Gates, Vernon Davis
    WR – Legendary Moss, Leg Marvin Harrison, Leg. Steve Smith, Leg. Santonio Holmes
    OL – Leg. Walter Jones, Leg. Steve Hutch, Leg. Matt Birk, Chris Snee, Leg. Orlando Pace
    DL – Leg. Freeney, Leg. Haynesworth, Kevin Williams, Leg. Jason Taylor
    LB – Leg. Derrick Brooks, Leg. Ray Lewis, Leg Julian Peterson(James Harrison comes in when I run the 4-4)
    CB – Leg. Bailey, Leg. Nnamdi, Leg. Woodson, Leg. Samuel, Champ Bailey
    S – Leg. Dawkins, Leg. Polamalu
    PR/KR – Leg. Devin Hester

  • jim

    that would be so damn boring…..

  • jim

    Ive played close to 35 games now and Im slowly building. Ive been as high as 81 but as low as 61. Right now Im keeping myself at about a 78 and trying to balance everything to keep building.

  • jim

    Ive played close to 35 games now and Im slowly building. Ive been as high as 81 but as low as 61. Right now Im keeping myself at about a 78 and trying to balance everything to keep building.

  • jim

    that would be so damn boring…..

  • jim

    so buy a new playbook with your coins lmao….they can be had for 20-100 coins. I got the playbooks I wanted for about 150 coins altogether! People are so mad about a free addition to a game? It's not like you can't go play regular madden too…….Its amazing to me that everyone complains about all of this yet they also complain when a game isnt updated or the developers dont take chances. Well here ya go its free, its taking a chance, it adds to the life of madden, and its something original brought to the genre….AND ITS FREE! stop complaining or we will be stuck with the same garbage year after year again.

  • jim

    so buy a new playbook with your coins lmao….they can be had for 20-100 coins. I got the playbooks I wanted for about 150 coins altogether! People are so mad about a free addition to a game? It's not like you can't go play regular madden too…….Its amazing to me that everyone complains about all of this yet they also complain when a game isnt updated or the developers dont take chances. Well here ya go its free, its taking a chance, it adds to the life of madden, and its something original brought to the genre….AND ITS FREE! stop complaining or we will be stuck with the same garbage year after year again.

  • jim

    It's free doofus….and only if you have no skills do you need to pay to buy packs. Cmon people this is stupidity! Why does everyone want to play with boring Ass all-star caliber teams? Take me and my chumps on with your all-star team and I assure you I will at the very least take you to overtime with my scrubs

  • jim

    It's free doofus….and only if you have no skills do you need to pay to buy packs. Cmon people this is stupidity! Why does everyone want to play with boring Ass all-star caliber teams? Take me and my chumps on with your all-star team and I assure you I will at the very least take you to overtime with my scrubs

  • punctuationiscool

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  • Mike

    Revis playing for "free" why? Why come on here and make bold BS statements when you know we can call out your lies?

  • Mike

    Revis playing for "free" why? Why come on here and make bold BS statements when you know we can call out your lies?

  • Jim

    Honestly bro thats the point. You seel off ones you cant afford to keep out of the packs and keep only 1 or 2 really good players. Think of it as the salary cap…..Selling off players out of the packs with 1-3 games left means youll get more coins (normally) than the pack cost. Its the same reasoning why teams build off only key guys in real life and why you see some all-stars traded off when they become too expensive. It also keeps the game fair as it isnt probowl squads against probowl squads. Also also comes down to keeping track and juggling contracts as if you can you want to make each big players contract end at a different time from the other thus making it easier to resign them.

  • Jim

    Honestly bro thats the point. You seel off ones you cant afford to keep out of the packs and keep only 1 or 2 really good players. Think of it as the salary cap…..Selling off players out of the packs with 1-3 games left means youll get more coins (normally) than the pack cost. Its the same reasoning why teams build off only key guys in real life and why you see some all-stars traded off when they become too expensive. It also keeps the game fair as it isnt probowl squads against probowl squads. Also also comes down to keeping track and juggling contracts as if you can you want to make each big players contract end at a different time from the other thus making it easier to resign them.

  • Rick

    So I did some more testing last night. Basically, I went into the detailed roster area (pressing R3 in the “set lineup” area), and took note of every player in every position. Then I noted their contracts left. After the game, I noted whose contracts decrimented. For some of the positions, I had players overlapping, so when they decrimented and I did not expect it, it was hard to determine which position they played caused this. So I am running another test tonight. Here is what I did discover:

    RB2 does not cause contract decriment. I started Chris Johnson and had LenDale White as backup, and LenDale started with 7 contracts and finished with 7.

    Kicker2 and punter2 does not either. It is a good strategy to use the same guy for K, P, and KOS, in order to save contract points.

    CB3 May or may not. The guy I had playing CB3 was also playing WR5, and KR2.

    DT 2 decriments, DT3 does not.
    LOLB 2 and ROLB 2 probably decriment, but I have to confirm with another test.
    All O-line positions only penalize 1st string.
    LE 2 and RE 2 are not decrimented.

    There was a few other positions that had wierdness. I went out to the auction and bought a few cheap players, so now I have a unique guy in each position.

    What I am really hoping I dont find out is that it depends on playing time. This could very well be the case, and if it is, it will be very difficult to unlock that algorithm. Since the computer auto-subs your players, you cannot decide that you dont want certain players to play.

    To answer your question about Nate Clemens…I am pretty sure 4th CB does not deduct. After tonight I should have all the answers…and to the guy below playing the auction…you make me sick! :-p 700k coins…get real…

  • Rick

    So I did some more testing last night. Basically, I went into the detailed roster area (pressing R3 in the “set lineup” area), and took note of every player in every position. Then I noted their contracts left. After the game, I noted whose contracts decrimented. For some of the positions, I had players overlapping, so when they decrimented and I did not expect it, it was hard to determine which position they played caused this. So I am running another test tonight. Here is what I did discover:

    RB2 does not cause contract decriment. I started Chris Johnson and had LenDale White as backup, and LenDale started with 7 contracts and finished with 7.

    Kicker2 and punter2 does not either. It is a good strategy to use the same guy for K, P, and KOS, in order to save contract points.

    CB3 May or may not. The guy I had playing CB3 was also playing WR5, and KR2.

    DT 2 decriments, DT3 does not.
    LOLB 2 and ROLB 2 probably decriment, but I have to confirm with another test.
    All O-line positions only penalize 1st string.
    LE 2 and RE 2 are not decrimented.

    There was a few other positions that had wierdness. I went out to the auction and bought a few cheap players, so now I have a unique guy in each position.

    What I am really hoping I dont find out is that it depends on playing time. This could very well be the case, and if it is, it will be very difficult to unlock that algorithm. Since the computer auto-subs your players, you cannot decide that you dont want certain players to play.

    To answer your question about Nate Clemens…I am pretty sure 4th CB does not deduct. After tonight I should have all the answers…and to the guy below playing the auction…you make me sick! :-p 700k coins…get real…

  • Rick

    So I did some more testing last night. Basically, I went into the detailed roster area (pressing R3 in the “set lineup” area), and took note of every player in every position. Then I noted their contracts left. After the game, I noted whose contracts decrimented. For some of the positions, I had players overlapping, so when they decrimented and I did not expect it, it was hard to determine which position they played caused this. So I am running another test tonight. Here is what I did discover:

    RB2 does not cause contract decriment. I started Chris Johnson and had LenDale White as backup, and LenDale started with 7 contracts and finished with 7.

    Kicker2 and punter2 does not either. It is a good strategy to use the same guy for K, P, and KOS, in order to save contract points.

    CB3 May or may not. The guy I had playing CB3 was also playing WR5, and KR2.

    DT 2 decriments, DT3 does not.
    LOLB 2 and ROLB 2 probably decriment, but I have to confirm with another test.
    All O-line positions only penalize 1st string.
    LE 2 and RE 2 are not decrimented.

    There was a few other positions that had wierdness. I went out to the auction and bought a few cheap players, so now I have a unique guy in each position.

    What I am really hoping I dont find out is that it depends on playing time. This could very well be the case, and if it is, it will be very difficult to unlock that algorithm. Since the computer auto-subs your players, you cannot decide that you dont want certain players to play.

    To answer your question about Nate Clemens…I am pretty sure 4th CB does not deduct. After tonight I should have all the answers…and to the guy below playing the auction…you make me sick! :-p 700k coins…get real…

  • Pete

    That looks like a mighty fine team you have there buddy. Remind me to never cross your path online as my team is only rated 71 : (

    I was under the impression that not all players where included but getting your hands on a legendary Vick card nips that theory in the bud. What's the rating on the Vick card by chance?

  • Pete

    That looks like a mighty fine team you have there buddy. Remind me to never cross your path online as my team is only rated 71 : (

    I was under the impression that not all players where included but getting your hands on a legendary Vick card nips that theory in the bud. What's the rating on the Vick card by chance?

  • Pete

    That looks like a mighty fine team you have there buddy. Remind me to never cross your path online as my team is only rated 71 : (

    I was under the impression that not all players where included but getting your hands on a legendary Vick card nips that theory in the bud. What's the rating on the Vick card by chance?

  • Pete

    That looks like a mighty fine team you have there buddy. Remind me to never cross your path online as my team is only rated 71 : (

    I was under the impression that not all players where included but getting your hands on a legendary Vick card nips that theory in the bud. What's the rating on the Vick card by chance?

  • kevin

    how do u clear mybids its full and now i cant check who im bidding on….

  • kevin

    how do u clear mybids its full and now i cant check who im bidding on….

  • kevin

    how do u clear mybids its full and now i cant check who im bidding on….

  • Rick

    AHA! I found the definitive answer.

    Here:
    http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/75/362723.page

    The developer is answering questions. This was from his post:
    “Yes, your starters (normal starters and WR1/2 and CB1/2) all lose contracts as soon as you go into the game. The rest of the players lose them once they are on the field a certain amount of plays. I’m not going to give that away or guys will be exploiting the system.

    We did that to ensure that players that play on kickoffs, returns, etc typically don’y lose a contract for coming onto the field for a few plays. ”

    So it seems, as I indicated earlier, that you want to play your studs in the starter slot, and scrubs for the 2nd slot. That way, you dont risk losing a contract point for 5 plays or so. This also makes an interesting proposition to having a dedicated kickoff returner and punt returner who doesnt lose contracts because he only suits up for 2-3 plays…maybe someone wants to play around and find out what that magic number of plays is and share with the class?

  • Rick

    AHA! I found the definitive answer.

    Here:
    http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/75/362723.page

    The developer is answering questions. This was from his post:
    “Yes, your starters (normal starters and WR1/2 and CB1/2) all lose contracts as soon as you go into the game. The rest of the players lose them once they are on the field a certain amount of plays. I’m not going to give that away or guys will be exploiting the system.

    We did that to ensure that players that play on kickoffs, returns, etc typically don’y lose a contract for coming onto the field for a few plays. ”

    So it seems, as I indicated earlier, that you want to play your studs in the starter slot, and scrubs for the 2nd slot. That way, you dont risk losing a contract point for 5 plays or so. This also makes an interesting proposition to having a dedicated kickoff returner and punt returner who doesnt lose contracts because he only suits up for 2-3 plays…maybe someone wants to play around and find out what that magic number of plays is and share with the class?

  • Rick

    AHA! I found the definitive answer.

    Here:
    http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/75/362723.page

    The developer is answering questions. This was from his post:
    “Yes, your starters (normal starters and WR1/2 and CB1/2) all lose contracts as soon as you go into the game. The rest of the players lose them once they are on the field a certain amount of plays. I’m not going to give that away or guys will be exploiting the system.

    We did that to ensure that players that play on kickoffs, returns, etc typically don’y lose a contract for coming onto the field for a few plays. ”

    So it seems, as I indicated earlier, that you want to play your studs in the starter slot, and scrubs for the 2nd slot. That way, you dont risk losing a contract point for 5 plays or so. This also makes an interesting proposition to having a dedicated kickoff returner and punt returner who doesnt lose contracts because he only suits up for 2-3 plays…maybe someone wants to play around and find out what that magic number of plays is and share with the class?

  • Rick

    AHA! I found the definitive answer.

    Here:
    http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/75/362723.page

    The developer is answering questions. This was from his post:
    “Yes, your starters (normal starters and WR1/2 and CB1/2) all lose contracts as soon as you go into the game. The rest of the players lose them once they are on the field a certain amount of plays. I’m not going to give that away or guys will be exploiting the system.

    We did that to ensure that players that play on kickoffs, returns, etc typically don’y lose a contract for coming onto the field for a few plays. ”

    So it seems, as I indicated earlier, that you want to play your studs in the starter slot, and scrubs for the 2nd slot. That way, you dont risk losing a contract point for 5 plays or so. This also makes an interesting proposition to having a dedicated kickoff returner and punt returner who doesnt lose contracts because he only suits up for 2-3 plays…maybe someone wants to play around and find out what that magic number of plays is and share with the class?

  • Pete

    Thanks for the insight Rick. It's good info as I would use my fast QB for 1-2 trick plays per game and he never took a contract hit, so now I understand why. I also don't have to worry about putting in a guy just for situational purposes during a game and having him take a contract hit.

  • Pete

    Thanks for the insight Rick. It's good info as I would use my fast QB for 1-2 trick plays per game and he never took a contract hit, so now I understand why. I also don't have to worry about putting in a guy just for situational purposes during a game and having him take a contract hit.

  • Pete

    Thanks for the insight Rick. It's good info as I would use my fast QB for 1-2 trick plays per game and he never took a contract hit, so now I understand why. I also don't have to worry about putting in a guy just for situational purposes during a game and having him take a contract hit.

  • Pete

    Thanks for the insight Rick. It's good info as I would use my fast QB for 1-2 trick plays per game and he never took a contract hit, so now I understand why. I also don't have to worry about putting in a guy just for situational purposes during a game and having him take a contract hit.

  • Pete

    Hey Rick are people really using 50k of coins to buy the top players i.e. Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitz? I heard it on this site and others but I have a hard time believing that people would do something like that over and over.

    BTW Rick make sure you keep you name (don't change it) as you seem to be one of the few who actually bring something positive and insightful to the table. I look forward to whatever else you can find

  • Pete

    Hey Rick are people really using 50k of coins to buy the top players i.e. Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitz? I heard it on this site and others but I have a hard time believing that people would do something like that over and over.

    BTW Rick make sure you keep you name (don't change it) as you seem to be one of the few who actually bring something positive and insightful to the table. I look forward to whatever else you can find

  • Pete

    Hey Rick are people really using 50k of coins to buy the top players i.e. Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitz? I heard it on this site and others but I have a hard time believing that people would do something like that over and over.

    BTW Rick make sure you keep you name (don't change it) as you seem to be one of the few who actually bring something positive and insightful to the table. I look forward to whatever else you can find

  • Pete

    Hey Rick are people really using 50k of coins to buy the top players i.e. Adrian Peterson, Larry Fitz? I heard it on this site and others but I have a hard time believing that people would do something like that over and over.

    BTW Rick make sure you keep you name (don't change it) as you seem to be one of the few who actually bring something positive and insightful to the table. I look forward to whatever else you can find

  • Rick

    I think that the problem is more profuse on the Xbox version. This is because on the Xbox version, you can buy coins directly with real money. On PS3, you can only buy card packs, requiring you to then sell the cards within to get coins, a little more time consuming. So my theory is you get more impulse buying on xBox, as people see cards they want at buyout prices, and go buy the coins necessary to get the card.

  • Rick

    I think that the problem is more profuse on the Xbox version. This is because on the Xbox version, you can buy coins directly with real money. On PS3, you can only buy card packs, requiring you to then sell the cards within to get coins, a little more time consuming. So my theory is you get more impulse buying on xBox, as people see cards they want at buyout prices, and go buy the coins necessary to get the card.

  • Rick

    I think that the problem is more profuse on the Xbox version. This is because on the Xbox version, you can buy coins directly with real money. On PS3, you can only buy card packs, requiring you to then sell the cards within to get coins, a little more time consuming. So my theory is you get more impulse buying on xBox, as people see cards they want at buyout prices, and go buy the coins necessary to get the card.

  • Rick

    I think that the problem is more profuse on the Xbox version. This is because on the Xbox version, you can buy coins directly with real money. On PS3, you can only buy card packs, requiring you to then sell the cards within to get coins, a little more time consuming. So my theory is you get more impulse buying on xBox, as people see cards they want at buyout prices, and go buy the coins necessary to get the card.

  • Rick

    When you are in the pre-game screen (the area where you choose uniforms, ect), move the controller icon to their side as if you are going to be the CPU, and then press up/down to the appropriate team. This works for PS3 version, so Xbox may be different. (I am finding more and more things different between the two versions, which can make feedback difficult to give and interpret).

  • Rick

    When you are in the pre-game screen (the area where you choose uniforms, ect), move the controller icon to their side as if you are going to be the CPU, and then press up/down to the appropriate team. This works for PS3 version, so Xbox may be different. (I am finding more and more things different between the two versions, which can make feedback difficult to give and interpret).

  • Rick

    When you are in the pre-game screen (the area where you choose uniforms, ect), move the controller icon to their side as if you are going to be the CPU, and then press up/down to the appropriate team. This works for PS3 version, so Xbox may be different. (I am finding more and more things different between the two versions, which can make feedback difficult to give and interpret).

  • Rick

    Post your lowest and highest points earned here:
    I am trying to gauge how many points it is possible to earn (or not earn), so I can improve my MUT game guide I am writing. I will start:
    Lowest: 250 (lost by 28 points to a player)
    Highest: 445 (won by 49 points to a player)

  • Rick

    Post your lowest and highest points earned here:
    I am trying to gauge how many points it is possible to earn (or not earn), so I can improve my MUT game guide I am writing. I will start:
    Lowest: 250 (lost by 28 points to a player)
    Highest: 445 (won by 49 points to a player)

  • Chris Christofferson

    Strangely enough, I had a starting ROLB (I think, maybe a LOLB – whichever is out in default nickel and dollar packages) who was not charged a contract for many games that I played with him. I was playing 1 min quarters vs the CPU, and I stayed in nickel or dollar throughout the game. So the OLB was not really playing.

  • Chris Christofferson

    Strangely enough, I had a starting ROLB (I think, maybe a LOLB – whichever is out in default nickel and dollar packages) who was not charged a contract for many games that I played with him. I was playing 1 min quarters vs the CPU, and I stayed in nickel or dollar throughout the game. So the OLB was not really playing.

  • Chris Christofferson

    Strangely enough, I had a starting ROLB (I think, maybe a LOLB – whichever is out in default nickel and dollar packages) who was not charged a contract for many games that I played with him. I was playing 1 min quarters vs the CPU, and I stayed in nickel or dollar throughout the game. So the OLB was not really playing.

  • Chris Christofferson

    Strangely enough, I had a starting ROLB (I think, maybe a LOLB – whichever is out in default nickel and dollar packages) who was not charged a contract for many games that I played with him. I was playing 1 min quarters vs the CPU, and I stayed in nickel or dollar throughout the game. So the OLB was not really playing.

  • Momo

    Here's the bubble to burst for all you folks who want to play it legit without spending money. Even if you do the cheapest crap possible, 15 min quarters, CPU on lowest difficulty, penalties off so you can sack the QB, block all the punts, etc and then play the browns, the most you'll earn for the 2 hours of your time is about 400 coins. So, with your starter team, everyone can play 10 games. If I play 10 games earning max coins by being a cheap ass (keeping in mind this is about a 20 hour investment), I can buy one gold pack, which isn't enough players to replace all the ones I've lost, or I can buy two silver packs, and fill all my positions with slightly better players, some of whom aren't playing the right positions (5 RT's anyone?).

    Problem is, I don't earn MORE coins with this team. Same amount as before. And these guys contracts are shorter. So now I can only play 4 games or so. So I've only made 1500 coins this time. And I need another team.

    THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP PLAYING IS TO SPEND REAL MONEY. It's not in any way balanced to allow you to get better without spending money. Problem is you don't know this until you've spent hours and hours playing and now you're invested, so you're more likely to break out a credit card.

    Unless they do something to make it so you can get better by just playing, I'm done with this. I hate the way EA just keeps grabbing at my paycheck more and more.

    To the guy being amazed that people are complaining about the free update: I'm pissed I spent so much time, thinking I could build a sort of dynasty only to discover there isn't any way to do that. The whole idea the mode is based around is a lie.

  • Momo

    Here's the bubble to burst for all you folks who want to play it legit without spending money. Even if you do the cheapest crap possible, 15 min quarters, CPU on lowest difficulty, penalties off so you can sack the QB, block all the punts, etc and then play the browns, the most you'll earn for the 2 hours of your time is about 400 coins. So, with your starter team, everyone can play 10 games. If I play 10 games earning max coins by being a cheap ass (keeping in mind this is about a 20 hour investment), I can buy one gold pack, which isn't enough players to replace all the ones I've lost, or I can buy two silver packs, and fill all my positions with slightly better players, some of whom aren't playing the right positions (5 RT's anyone?).

    Problem is, I don't earn MORE coins with this team. Same amount as before. And these guys contracts are shorter. So now I can only play 4 games or so. So I've only made 1500 coins this time. And I need another team.

    THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP PLAYING IS TO SPEND REAL MONEY. It's not in any way balanced to allow you to get better without spending money. Problem is you don't know this until you've spent hours and hours playing and now you're invested, so you're more likely to break out a credit card.

    Unless they do something to make it so you can get better by just playing, I'm done with this. I hate the way EA just keeps grabbing at my paycheck more and more.

    To the guy being amazed that people are complaining about the free update: I'm pissed I spent so much time, thinking I could build a sort of dynasty only to discover there isn't any way to do that. The whole idea the mode is based around is a lie.

  • Momo

    Too good. Nice find.

  • Momo

    Too good. Nice find.

  • Momo

    So, I can play the football game with good players if I'm also willing to play a completely unrelated game based in economics that can take hours/days to play out? I suppose if simply getting a great team is the goal, then you're successful.

    I was under the impression that this mode would allow me to build a better team over time by playing games. I was excited about the idea of working hard to slowly build up a better and better team. The math proves you can't do that.

    The only way to get a great team is to pay real money or play an auction house for profit. This is a big disappointment to me.

  • Momo

    So, I can play the football game with good players if I'm also willing to play a completely unrelated game based in economics that can take hours/days to play out? I suppose if simply getting a great team is the goal, then you're successful.

    I was under the impression that this mode would allow me to build a better team over time by playing games. I was excited about the idea of working hard to slowly build up a better and better team. The math proves you can't do that.

    The only way to get a great team is to pay real money or play an auction house for profit. This is a big disappointment to me.

  • Momo

    Added thought: I suppose it's possible to play the auction house to maintain a decent team. To me, this is a completely different game that I'm really not interested in, nestled within a really interesting game I want to play, which it turns out it horribly broken unless I: a) spend real money, no thanks or b) spend time playing around on the auction house to get coins from people who probably have spent money on the game…

    I know there are a lot of people who like MUT, and more than enough who will keep playing a long time. It just saddens me, because EA really did have a good idea here for something that could have been an incredibly exciting game. Madden as a virtual trading card game really is a cool idea. The execution kills it for me, though. I suppose people spend hundreds of dollars on cards for games like Magic: The Gathering, too, so I suppose people might spend it on this, too…

  • Momo

    Added thought: I suppose it's possible to play the auction house to maintain a decent team. To me, this is a completely different game that I'm really not interested in, nestled within a really interesting game I want to play, which it turns out it horribly broken unless I: a) spend real money, no thanks or b) spend time playing around on the auction house to get coins from people who probably have spent money on the game…

    I know there are a lot of people who like MUT, and more than enough who will keep playing a long time. It just saddens me, because EA really did have a good idea here for something that could have been an incredibly exciting game. Madden as a virtual trading card game really is a cool idea. The execution kills it for me, though. I suppose people spend hundreds of dollars on cards for games like Magic: The Gathering, too, so I suppose people might spend it on this, too…

  • Rick

    What may be happening then, is the formula is applied only when x number of plays occur. Now I really want to find this magic number!

    I had a similar experience…I had a starting kicker and punter, neither of who were charged, as the kicker came out 3 times, and the punter 0.

  • Rick

    What may be happening then, is the formula is applied only when x number of plays occur. Now I really want to find this magic number!

    I had a similar experience…I had a starting kicker and punter, neither of who were charged, as the kicker came out 3 times, and the punter 0.

  • hunter

    I know im tired of seeing ppl complain its free if your any good at madden its fun and different.. everyone starts with a terrible team so its not like your the only ppl with a bad team. i am 4 and 0 and i have earned about 450 coins a game thats like 1800 coins. if some of you ppl on here were good at madden without playing with juggernaut teams and edited rosters and players you would actually enjoy this. and have u ever heard the sayin some ppl enjoy it dont complain or you will ruin it for everyone

  • hunter

    I know im tired of seeing ppl complain its free if your any good at madden its fun and different.. everyone starts with a terrible team so its not like your the only ppl with a bad team. i am 4 and 0 and i have earned about 450 coins a game thats like 1800 coins. if some of you ppl on here were good at madden without playing with juggernaut teams and edited rosters and players you would actually enjoy this. and have u ever heard the sayin some ppl enjoy it dont complain or you will ruin it for everyone

  • Michael

    you shouldn't loose contract games when the other guy quits.. and you should get like 2000 points for cowardly running away.. they can call it "cowardly lion"

  • Michael

    you shouldn't loose contract games when the other guy quits.. and you should get like 2000 points for cowardly running away.. they can call it "cowardly lion"

  • Nate

    i am confused with this…i have 27 player cards and i think u need 30 player cards to play a game. I cant buy any more player cards with 3 coins(i have 3 coins) soo am i stuck? i mean is there a way to get player cards with 3 coins? because i cant do anything with my team. anyone please help if possible lol.

  • Nate

    i am confused with this…i have 27 player cards and i think u need 30 player cards to play a game. I cant buy any more player cards with 3 coins(i have 3 coins) soo am i stuck? i mean is there a way to get player cards with 3 coins? because i cant do anything with my team. anyone please help if possible lol.

  • Johnny

    there shoulmt be cotracts. Once you get the card you should be able to keep them unless you get too many cards and want to delete it. The contracts stopped me from playing because now i have open slots in my roster with no coins to buy a new pack.

  • Johnny

    there shoulmt be cotracts. Once you get the card you should be able to keep them unless you get too many cards and want to delete it. The contracts stopped me from playing because now i have open slots in my roster with no coins to buy a new pack.

  • Johnny

    there shoulmt be cotracts. Once you get the card you should be able to keep them unless you get too many cards and want to delete it. The contracts stopped me from playing because now i have open slots in my roster with no coins to buy a new pack.

  • carigami5t

    roster update..just go to the online game play and shit it will automatically ask you to update no matter what and just say yes and save the roster and be str8 thas e-z as booty and cheese bro bro.

  • carigami5t

    The ultimate teami is cool an all but at least make it where you can start off wit a good amount of coins and shit. Also have an investment optiions and see how the money can develop and wagers and shit on the game that would've been the most tightest idea yet

  • Brock

    Has anyone ever bid on a card and it says the contract on the card is 17 or something, then once you bid and look at your bid the card says it is like 5 or 6 on the contract? What is up with that? They are already jippin us out on coins and now this bs. Is there a cheat or am I doing something wrong?

  • Brock

    Does anyone know why before I bid on a card it will say the contract is like 9 or a high contract number, then I go check out the card on my bids and the contract all of a sudden is for 1 or 2 games? Is that a cheat or am I doing something wrong, cuz this is some BS.

  • Nickolismaccalla

    Any 1 wanna sell a Chris johnson to me? or adrian peterson, chris johnson more preferd add me Younggmac24

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