Gamestop Madden Monday: Returning Missed FGs
May 5, 2008 by pastapadre
This week’s Gamestop Madden Monday focuses on the ability to return missed field goals and includes two new screenshots of Devin Hester in position to do so.
One of these Madden NFL 09 innovations is the ability to return missed field goals. Over the past couple of years, we’ve seen in the real-world NFL how a seemingly insignificant field-goal attempt can be turned into a momentum-changing, or even game-deciding, touchdown return.
It will be a nice change to force people into considering the risk of attempting a long field goal. However if kicking is overpowered (as has been the case seemingly forever) it may not really matter. Hopefully kickoffs aren’t going through the back of the end zone and long distance FG attempts actually have the potential of coming up short enough that they can be returned.
Man I was waiting for this mondays new feature topic and its just ehh lol. Although I like the ability to return a missed fg. How many chances will we really get? Specially if the kicking game is still over powered like previous version. But I guess thats what sliders are for anyways.
…………….Until next Monday I suppose lol.
These arent the key features of the game - Just little cool things not seen in last years. This is the exact feature I was expecting them to post about. It is cool to me when in the 4th Q online people would run the clock and kick a 70 yard field goal at the end to kill time. This time I can have a shot at running it back for a TD.
Nice addition…
kicking and blocking of FG’s need to be totally redone IMO……..but this is a feature that adds some realism and a ‘lil excitement to the game!
…oh, and I almost forgot to mention-
GO BILLS!!!
I thought this was suppose to be in last year’s game. I just hope it isn’t something that is flawed and people can abuse to their advantage when it isn’t called for. I think its all in all though, but I just hope they can remedy some of the other defects that have been plaguing the game for years most notably for the next-gen system. I just hope it can be a game that I can play until the next installment of Madden unlike 08 which I have stopped playing for months now.
Pointless unless they fix the 90 yard field goals. How frustrating was it last year online when i would stop someone at the 50 to 40 yard line and they would kick a 55 plus yarder through every time. Pasta if you get a chance to speak with them, PLEASE TELL THEM to fix this annoying problem. At least make it so they can’t do it everytime
Grey wrote:
Why? you talk as if NFL players don’t kick 55+ yard field goals!!!
Realizm wrote:
he’s just saying that it was too easy to do. and he’s absolutely right. didn’t matter the kicker’s rating, everyone could boot the ball like Janikowski. Something needs to be done to make the kicking game more difficult. Especially with lower rated kickers. I shouldn’t be able to kick as well as the best kickers with a kicker rated a 68.
A decent addition, even though an entire NFL season can pass without it happening. Still, might as well be in there.
Kicking as a whole needs an overhaul. Field goals should be more difficult to make, and the kick-offs are obviously too powerful. I’m looking forward to seeing more gameplay video.
I just want a better overall presentation for the entire game. I mean the pre, halftime, and post game presetation is seriously lacking in areas. Winning the Super Bowl is like finding out the you won the lottery but only to owe it to the IRS.
I love how they add in a feature that might happen once in an entire NFL season. Now, one of two things will happen:
1. EA is lazy and doesn’t fix the overpowered kickers, so unless you try a 60+ yard FG, it won’t matter because every kicker can boot the ball a mile.
2. The CPU will take stupid FG chances and let you return them.
Do we know if you will have to call a specific play to return a FG, or can you just put a guy back there? If you have to call a specific play, this feature is pointless.
How often are you going to return the missed FG for a TD? If this is too easy, it will just take all the fun out of it.
i like this new addition to the game but am the type of dude that likes small details like devin hester dreads. and on the look of the screenshot they don seem to have it on there.
truzoe wrote:
That seems to be taboo asking for samll details like that. People tend to think things like that don’t matter, but I on the other hand like all small details that make the game feel realistic. I just hope it doesn’t dissapoint me like 08 done which I don’t play anymore.
Dre wrote:
Yea i realize NFL kickers are kicking 55 yarders. But there is no reason why Lauwrence Tynes is kicking from the 40 yard line and making them like its his bday. Im a huge Giants fan, but he’s not good at all. There are times where some coaches won’t even kick it because the circumstances. In NCAA they are doing this feature freeze the kicker, where calling a time out makes the meter look frozen and makes it harder to pinpoint full power. But i should know the diff between a big leg kicker and an accurate kicker. And please don’t have big leg kickers able to make it from the 50 yard line. Its a pain.
I hope that because you can return FG that it doesn’t increase the number of missed field goals that get returned.
Yes, in the past couple of years we have seen Cromartie and Hester make long returns however this doesn’t happen that often.
As with every other new feature EA introduces, it will be overdone in some way. Really, unless you can just walk a guy back there to return the kick, this will be worthless.
If I have to call a “return FG” play, then the offense is just going to audible into something else and catch me with only 10 guys at the line and probably poor personnel on the field. Easy conversion for a first down.
Either that or it will will really easy to return them for some reason.
Again, this is a feature that Madden didn’t really need, but is nice to have. It would have been a lot cooler to just have included this, but have people discover it when they ran someone back there to try and catch the kick.
There are 100 other things that need worked on and fixed in Madden before adding this gimmick. Again, nice to have, but please fix the stuff that is broken first.
CPU INTs in simmed games counting as 2 instead of 1 would be good for starters.
since we are on the subject of kicking,i have a question for an nfl nut . lets say i have a kicker who is not very accurate (madden or real life) and i wanna atempt a field goal on 3rd down instead of 4th ,simply because he might not make it on the first try .now if he makes it obviously i’ll get 3 points, but if he misses on that 3rd down attempt will it be 4th down ,or will it be change of possesion?
hubcapp wrote:
Change of posession because I’m calling the “return FG” play and taking that ball back the other way for 6 on your ass.
player models look horrible
Eric wrote:
At least in NCAA it seemed to be either putting a guy back automatically or you’d have to run him back yourself. There wasn’t a specific “FG return” play to call.
Wee missed FG returns. Now that is innovation.
For shame Pasta Padre
No mention of Owen Schmitt on PSP cover. What kinda EA mouthpiece are you?
http://www.easports.com/ncaa09.....spoverview
Regards - one of the IP’s you banned because I call it like I see it!
pastapadre wrote:
That would be fantastic if that was the case. I’d prefer to put the guy back there myself, but I’d be OK with him just going back there on really long FG kicks. Good job EA, if that is truly the case.
See, I don’t hate everything.
Um…yeah…I’m still not buying this game.
I rather see EA update the player models (dreads, long hair, tattoos, fat bastards like Sam Adams looking like the walking refrigerators they appear) and accesories (eye paint, nose bands, mouth protectors, NECK PAD, towels).
Gaming is the only taste of NFL I have once the season is over and right now I’m stock playing madden 07 for xbox ‘cuz the 360 versions suck…I believe that we should expect AND demand more from EA…
School House Rock wrote:
why you gotta be a dick man? i mean really.. if you don’t like the info this guy puts out (or the way he puts it out), don’t visit the site… simple as that.
the man does a great job presenting us with a collection of our sports info and makes it an easy place to see the latest news.
if i had a somekind of something where i wanted to have a picture of a video game, id put that second picture of devin hester, that shit is hot.
Another one of EA’s gimmicks.
I wish all the Madden Sheep would wise up out of their commercially induced comas a realize that EA and Madden is just the same recycled trash year in and year out. Madden is just a kiddie Arcade football game marketed as a football sim with laughable gameplay and a substandard football enviroment, which is a total crap. Graphics seem to be the most important factor when it comes to the EA Sports Sheep Consumer which is pathetic, GAMEPLAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND 2K DELIVERS A REALISTIC FOOTBALL EXPERIENCE but because of the NFL license deal and the commercially induced generation of gamer it suffered in the sales dept.
Untill the Madden Sheep stops buying the crap EA will never make a decent game, so its in your hands. DON’T BUY EA PORTS PRODUCTS!!!!.
APF 2K8 is the greatest football sim to date, so if you are a real football fan that is what you should be playing, not the arcade, label induced garbage called Madden.
2K Football Deity wrote:
If it is so great then go play it and stop complaining about things that don’t interest you?
Eric wrote:
right. but, in the last-gen game it was almost hard to make a 30 yarder!
2K Football Deity wrote:
i have to say i agree with you. APF’s graphics may have not been up to Madden’s level (not even close honestly) but their animations and, more importantly, gameplay are leaps and bounds above anything Madden has offered.
i just keep coming back to Madden hoping maybe this year it will be different? i haven’t bought Madden since it went to Next Gen but i’m follow it each year up to release only to find that again and again everyone has been let down by the finished product…
maybe this is they year? i’m dying to play a good NFL game again
Beau wrote:
I understand why gamers want Madden to be a great game because its the NFL and its the only game in town but you see that is what EA is counting on every year. EA knows there are millions of gamers who love the NFL and want to play as their favorite teams and players, so that is where EA’s Madden Hype Machine comes into play to seduce the gamers who care not how the game plays but WHO they are playing with.
I’m sorry bro but Madden is arcade trash and it will never change untill gamers wake up and decide not to buy it and force EA to make a better game. I really do believe without the license Madden would be a better game but still second fiddle to ESPN NFL just like every other EA Sports title compared to 2K Sports.
I would suggest you rent Madden’09, so you will not contribute to the destruction of Quality Sports Gaming.
special teams have been garbage in madden forever. a game winning field goal can be one of the most nerve racking moments in sports. in madden if you get to your own 33 yard line it’s almost a given you will score with any kicker. i hope that changes but i won’t hold my breath.
Eric wrote:
Why would you “HAVE” to call a return FG? Just play the numbers game and take the good field position at the spot of the kick.
In a real game, FG’s are usually returned due to the opposing teams lack of awareness. With that being said, are they gonna “dumb down” the A.I. in those situations to give you a shot at returning a mised FG? If so, the kicking team is at a disadvantage. If not, why return the kick if you’re not gonna get very far.
hubcapp wrote:
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jeez madden 09 just keeps getting better
I like how they are adding this ,but this won’t have a big impact until they make it harder to kick fgs. They need to make it harder to be accurate and tone down the power a bit.
Little fun fact for you…2k8 can already do this…and they didnt call it a “feature”.
Also the kicking in madden is garbage and looks to stay the same. In the madden video down the page the kicker gets about 3/4s power on the kickoff and hits it the 3. Look for alot of to the back or thru the endzone agaiin. Also maddens FGs are WAYY to easy and you can hit 55 yarders with ease, ive NEVER seen anyone online miss a FG wide left or right!!!
2ks FG/Kicking system, well actually just APF 2k8s is amazing. Some hate how hard it is but making a 55 yarder with a scrub kicker should be NO GIMME. You wanna make field goals you have to have a good kicker or top notch skills.
Zack wrote:
All Pro Football did a great job at that btw.
hubcapp wrote:
change of possession if it touches the kicker’s foot
madden sucks now and for the past few years…i thought this was common knowledge.
As long as Tiburon (sp?) is developing and using the same old engine, the game will still be a joke. I’ve already seen gameplay for ncaa with the same ‘ol 25 yard drop-back, then throwing a cross-field bomb, resulting in an impossible catch, then speeding away from defenders as if they are linemen for the TD!!!!! YAAAAAAA!!!!! …NOT.
frtiz wrote:
not to say that it won’t be possible in default or above games but you realize they play on low difficulty levels in those videos.
Beau wrote:
Additionally, teams usually kick on third down in case of a bad snap, or a botched snap or something, because you can’t kick twice in your situation.
truzoe wrote:
They also don’t have Marshawn Lynch’s dreads either…
for FG’s, just use the old 3-button “Tiger Woods” method. If you miss the accuracy a lil to the left, your kick slices to the left also. When kicking long FG’s in the 360 version w/analog controls there are never any fades or slices like in real life…and it’s too easy to get full power
regy wrote:
Try All Pro, it has a perfect kick meter. Takes some getting used to but once you get it down its perfect.
Madden 09 innovation my ***…APF 2k8 could do this!!
lol why are you losers here?
you hate ea dont buy it go away
next….
Dennis wrote:
you confused me! please read the last paragragh, then look at my question again . and why would it be change of possesion if it touches the kickers foot if its only 3rd dwn?
Aw man thats Raw.can’t wait
hubcapp wrote:
???????
hubcapp wrote:
Dawg,Read the whole thing and re-write it you confused me