Official 2008-2009 NBA Season Thread

[Fred]

Thought I'd get this started. A lot of season left to be played.

[dlips]

It'll be interesting to see what the Sixers do with the rest of this season. I hope they're not just putting a cap on their hopes for this year with the firing of Cheeks. If Brand gets going and everyone around him learns to play with him in the system they could definitely move up in the standings with how bad the conference is.

[Fred]

I thought it was crappy that they fired him. Was he really that bad of a coach?

[dlips]

I really don't think so, he was turning things around these past few seasons, and they had extended him TWICE in the past year. I think it was just because of with the players they had returning from last season and the high-profile addition of Brand, they were expected to get off to a much better start. They've been terrible on offense this season which was probably a large factor. But they did get a win last night in their first game under DiLeo, albeit against Washington.

[Melo_Billups]

Even though Nuggets are going alright I hope Karl gets fired soon

[PurplePride28]

so how is my Seattle Super Sonics doing......oh wait.....

[dlips]

Another one bites the dust:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3770825
Reggie Theus has been fired as coach of the Sacramento Kings, according to NBA coaching sources.

Assistant coach Kenny Natt will be elevated to interim coach, sources said.

[SheriffBooth]

Who the F are these guys getting coaching jobs in the NBA? Are they just pulling guys in off the street now? I mean seriously - the best two guys the Kings could come up with in the whole world to coach their team were Reggie Theus and Kenny Natt? The Bulls looked near and far and found...Vinny Del Negro?

[Fred]

VDN is the next Greg Popovich. Book it...:ninja:


As far as Theus, he's going back to Hanging with Mr. Cooper.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

Lakers continue winning ugly too much trapping is leaving open shooters and allowing easy penetration. Stu Lantz has it figured though in having the starters play man defense and the subs continue the trapping seems like an easy solution to our current problem.

[SheriffBooth]

VDN is the next Greg Popovich. Book it...:ninja:


As far as Theus, he's going back to Hanging with Mr. Cooper.

Haven't seen the Bulls in a while. Does Del Negro still look like he's about to get hit by a runaway bus? The first month of the season I imagined him in the timeouts saying things like "Guys, we need to score more" and "Guys, play tougher defense, please".

[Fred]

Haven't seen the Bulls in a while. Does Del Negro still look like he's about to get hit by a runaway bus? The first month of the season I imagined him in the timeouts saying things like "Guys, we need to score more" and "Guys, play tougher defense, please".
he's actually not bad. i thought the same thing then all these former coaches and teammates talk about what a great basketball mind he is lol. He also has Bernie Bickerstaff and Frank Drebin (Del Harris) by his side. So they fill in whatever he doesn't know.

[I-bleed-green]

after watching Boston beat the hornets it was clear 2 me Boston is the best team around and when the playoffs come round hte cavs wont be able to contend because Bron wont be able to keep his team fired up like KG does with his second team.

[I-bleed-green]

Kevin Garnett is the only NBA player that makes Big Babies cry :jawdrop:

[rdelizo35]

Boston's definitely the team to beat but the Cavs and Lakers have really played well enough to be in contention. LA's defense is still suspect though as they have had a lot of opponent score over 100+ points recently and they are still susceptible to a good pick and roll team (Boston, San Antonio, etc.). Cleveland is going to keep on winning as long as LeBron keeps up putting up
MVP-like numbers night in and night out.

On the flip side, the Clippers have been awful (again), the Thunder haven't made much progress and powerhouses such as Phoenix and Dallas have struggled.

[DomePatrol]

CP3 looks to tie the most consecutive games with a steal. hopefully he can tie tonight and break it wednesday vs the spurs.

[Hombre]

Hopefully the Lakers can start playing better basketball tonight....

[Cudi]

If the Cavs can pull off the Wally and Varejao for Marion trade, I would be ecstatic.

[DomePatrol]

If the Cavs can pull off the Wally and Varejao for Marion trade, I would be ecstatic.

When did these talks start??

[Terrorblaze]

i hate luke walton

[Cudi]

When did these talks start??

It was reported on the bottom line earliar that the two teams are discussing that type of deal.

[DomePatrol]

Damnn if marion goes to the cavs that would be insane.

[Hombre]

i hate luke walton

welcom to the club...lol

[mikesa_tx]

My Spurs got a test these next few nights. They have New Orleans tonight which should be a good one. They had a good battle last year in the playoffs so I expect this to be one of those games again.

Boston by far is the best team in the NBA right now. I am going to watch their game tonight against the Hawks (that shouldn't be an easy one) as they (Hawks) have shown us.

[georgiafan]

Another heartbreaking loss agianst the celtics

[Hombre]

Atlanta is getting better as the season progresses though...they should be a force to reckon with in the playoffs this season.

[georgiafan]

Atlanta is getting better as the season progresses though...they should be a force to reckon with in the playoffs this season.

True, but they still will not get out of the 2nd round until a post player on offense is found. Bibby has been much better this year. I'm still waiting for more then Josh Smith if he takes his game to the next level then so will the hawks.

[DomePatrol]

CP3 106 consecutive games with a steal. Plus a bad ass win against the spurs

[-G-]

i hate luke walton

How long is this joke going to continue?

[Cudi]

Orlando sticking it to the Spurs...solid.

[Ironhorse75]

Roy will most likely go for 50 points tonight.

[Kwon]

Dwayne wade is the best player in the nba right now followed by lebron than kobe.

Kobe missed the game winning shot though...must of been a glitch

[Ironhorse75]

Yeah I saw that shot go in and for a fraction of a second thought "typical Kobe", only to see it rim out. Miami h4x.

[Ironhorse75]

LOL @ Devin dropping 41 in front of Cuban.

[-G-]

LOL @ Devin dropping 41 in front of Cuban.

And 13 assists. What a dumbass trade.

[Cudi]

Devin Harris is sweet...what a great trade for the Nets. He is one of the best, under rated players in the league right now. Him and Joe Johnson.

[Hombre]

there is no question that the Lakers are the third best team in the league right now and it's not even close...

they have been playing awful lately.

[-G-]

Devin Harris is sweet...what a great trade for the Nets. He is one of the best, under rated players in the league right now. Him and Joe Johnson.

Here's a question. Are you still underrated when everyone describes you as underrated?

[-G-]

there is no question that the Lakers are the third best team in the league right now and it's not even close...

they have been playing awful lately.

I can't even comprehend what their deal is. I don't even know what we're doing anymore. Meanwhile, Phil sits on his throne and watches, no wait, he decides to get a fucking technical last night late in the 4th quarter. Great fucking help Phil. I'm so tired of his act.

[McKenzie911]

Raptors are shit, trade everyone.

[DomePatrol]

Raptors are shit, trade everyone.

Ill take bosh why not

[Ironhorse75]

Ouch, Lakers lose back to back.

Howard wasn't even beasting it.

[Bates]

Just got home from the LA/Orlando game. Kobe was a man. He dropped 41 and was so impressive in person. Orlando eventually wised up and sent the entire team at him. Unfortunately, the rest of the team is pretty mediocre and the Lakers lost.

[McKenzie911]

Ill take bosh why not
take him, he's soft on D and settles for too many jumpers. We'll take your 1st and 2nd rounders though.

[Ironhorse75]

I thought Masta would have been in here already posting about how LeBron recently mentioned the possibility of a contract extension this summer.

[Hombre]

The lakers are playing horrible basketball right now...where is Bynum...he has been non-existent for the past 4 games...

[Melo_Billups]

The Nuggets are playing horrible basketball......that's a first.

[Melo_Billups]

lmao at LeBron saying he might sign an extension with the cavs in the off-season. lol if he does knicks are screwed

[DomePatrol]

Yay the hornets may have finally found their stride. About the Lebron thing i think he needs to keep his mouth shut about it.

[Kwon]

Why do people say that kobe aint shit without shaq? How does shaqs presence better kobe?

[McKenzie911]

Why do people say that kobe aint shit without shaq? How does shaqs presence better kobe?
Helped him win 3 Championships didnt it, And Shaq won one without Kobe so they make a big deal out of it.

on a sidenote watching the Raps vs. Clippers game, wtf is wrong with B-Diddy he looks terrible.

[DomePatrol]

Helped him win 3 Championships didnt it, And Shaq won one without Kobe so they make a big deal out of it.

on a sidenote watching the Raps vs. Clippers game, wtf is wrong with B-Diddy he looks terrible.

Baron Davis??

[McKenzie911]

Baron Davis??
obviously...I said I was watching the Raps vs. Clippers play

[DomePatrol]

It was just a retarded nickname.

[McKenzie911]

It was just a retarded nickname.
he has alot...would u rather me call him "Boom Dizzle"

[DomePatrol]

Its funny cuz i actually like that one.

[-G-]

I seriously can't stand watching Luke Walton. I don't know what the fuck Phil's problem is, but this is just ridiculous. The guy can't do anything.

[Hombre]

I seriously can't stand watching Luke Walton. I don't know what the fuck Phil's problem is, but this is just ridiculous. The guy can't do anything.

at least we beat the lowly Grizzlies...damn, what is the Lakers problem?

Bynum is still sucking it up...

[Fred]

i remember all the talk on SG about how Bynum was the next big thing...

[-G-]

at least we beat the lowly Grizzlies...damn, what is the Lakers problem?

Bynum is still sucking it up...

I don't know. He's playing lazy and doesn't appear to give a shit. I guess he got his money and is done. Right now, we suck at D again because we're trying to copy the Celtics but we don't know how. Our bigs don't come out on pick and roll, we don't rotate to open guys and we force everyone to the hoop and go "well I forced them to help, it's your problem now". We try to play the overload zone, but we leave big guys open under the hoop and we can't get a rebound. Lamar is absolutely worthless, Pau has lost his mo, Phil keeps playing Luke over Vlad, just a fucking disaster.

[Cudi]

Tough win tonight by the Cavs...Boobie hit 2 extremely clutch 3s in the 4th after Houston went on a run thanks to Yao getting to the foul line every posession. Bron also had a NASTY pin on Yao at the end of the 4th, great game.

[McKenzie911]

i remember all the talk on SG about how Bynum was the next big thing...
And I recall Laker fan boys going on about Bynum being a top 3 C in the league this year lol.

Celtics 19 game win streak, they are even better this year it's scary.

[Hombre]

I still think Bynum will be a top 5 center in the league...he's just playing scared right now.

[Hombre]

I don't know. He's playing lazy and doesn't appear to give a shit. I guess he got his money and is done. Right now, we suck at D again because we're trying to copy the Celtics but we don't know how. Our bigs don't come out on pick and roll, we don't rotate to open guys and we force everyone to the hoop and go "well I forced them to help, it's your problem now". We try to play the overload zone, but we leave big guys open under the hoop and we can't get a rebound. Lamar is absolutely worthless, Pau has lost his mo, Phil keeps playing Luke over Vlad, just a fucking disaster.

I wish we would try to trade Lamar...he's useless...Trevor Ariza is outplaying him.

[Ironhorse75]

This streak ends tonight.... atleast I hope.

[Cudi]

Yes sir

[Ironhorse75]

And now the Cavs get to clobber the Wiz!

[ImWinnin]

Sour....Still a great start to the season.......Go Celts

[Terrorblaze]

loved the win, good to see the team focused again

[Ironhorse75]

That Cavs/Wiz game was closer than it should have been.

Did they come back from being down 6 points two times within the final 5 minutes?!

[Ironhorse75]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KhRD2cssx4

[PacmanFan21]

Who's you pick for NBA finals Champion
Mine:Cleveland Cavs

[Melo_Billups]

Who's you pick for NBA finals Champion
Mine:Cleveland Cavs

Are you for real have you even watched a Celtics game it's like staring into the eyes of heaven.

[PacmanFan21]

Are you for real have you even watched a Celtics game it's like staring into the eyes of heaven.

i've watched a celtics game but i see LeBron and the Cavs winning it this year

[Melo_Billups]

i've watched a celtics game but i see the one man team winning it this year

Fixed

[PacmanFan21]

Fixed

true It's not the cavs its LeBron

[Ironhorse75]

One man team?

LeBron is scoring less, playing less, and they're having the best season since he was drafted.

#7 PPG
#1 Opposing PPG
#1 Differential

There is no arguing that LeBron IS that team, but that doesn't mean they aren't playing like one. This isn't LeBron pick and roll at the top of the key every possession anymore.

[Cudi]

Yeah...Mo really adds something to our offense that we havent had since Bron has been here. Someone who can handle the ball and a #2 scoring option.

[LVradio]

West was on fire from behind the arc on Christmas, it's great to see because it means that we can rely on role players to make shots when the defense is focused on LeBron and Mo.

[Melo_Billups]

I know what I said was wrong what I meant was all they do is kinda rely on LeBron but they have some great players.

[Ironhorse75]

Are you for real have you even watched a Celtics game it's like staring into the eyes of heaven.

GS Warriors > Heaven

Yikes.

[Cudi]

Boston takes quarters off. Its a real problem (see 4th quarter last night)

[Ironhorse75]

It was without Maggette, Crawford, and Ellis. WTF.

[-G-]

Boston takes quarters off. Its a real problem (see 4th quarter last night)

The Celtics are not as good as last year. Their bench is a joke. If you get back on defense and force them to play halfcourt offense, you can beat them.

[DomePatrol]

Dwest hitting the clutch last second shot. good W today

[Hombre]

The Lakers are finally starting to play their type of basketball again...Kobe has really put the team on his shoulders the past few weeks.

[Ironhorse75]

Cavs lose to the Heat, but its okay because Boston dropped another lol.

3 losses in one week, so much for the Bulls record.

[Terrorblaze]

...to the knicks


lol at boston sports guy

[Ironhorse75]

4 losses in a 10 day stretch.

What will it take for Marc Stein to get off Boston's nuts.

[Fred]

glad they lose another. i was tired of all that talk comparing them with the 72 win bulls.

[Hombre]

Lakers seem to have found the will to play games again...I'm still wondering why they take the first half off though....

[RaiderNdaBlood]

Hate to say it but the team seems to be playing alot better since ear Jordan went down. Don't like Ariza in the starting lineup with Walton out a couple weeks I think we should plug Vlade back in there since Ariza is going to close the game anyway.

[-G-]

Hate to say it but the team seems to be playing alot better since ear Jordan went down. Don't like Ariza in the starting lineup with Walton out a couple weeks I think we should plug Vlade back in there since Ariza is going to close the game anyway.

Ya, Farmar is awful defensively. Can't keep anyone in front of him. Finally we let Sasha play at PG (although I'm a Sasha fan so I think he can fit at the 1), although Kobe guards the PG often too.

As far as Ariza, it's interesting because he's playing about 30-33 minutes. If he comes off the bench, he's basically playing 33 out of the last 40 minutes. I agree Vlad is a better fit with the starters because of his shooting, but at the same time, we have to spread out Ariza's minutes a bit. Funny thing is I was kind of starting to come around on Luke. I'm a Luke hater, but he did bring a sense of stability to the offense.

[Hombre]

Ya, Farmar is awful defensively. Can't keep anyone in front of him. Finally we let Sasha play at PG (although I'm a Sasha fan so I think he can fit at the 1), although Kobe guards the PG often too.

As far as Ariza, it's interesting because he's playing about 30-33 minutes. If he comes off the bench, he's basically playing 33 out of the last 40 minutes. I agree Vlad is a better fit with the starters because of his shooting, but at the same time, we have to spread out Ariza's minutes a bit. Funny thing is I was kind of starting to come around on Luke. I'm a Luke hater, but he did bring a sense of stability to the offense.

Ariza is doing what Ronny Turiaf couldn't do as a Laker...making plays on a consistent basis. I don't know how I feel with him in the starting lineup but there is no denying that he makes plays on the court...I do, as well, think that Vlad should be starting.

while watching tonights game against the Hornets...Bynum is still not being as physical as he needs to be and Pau is getting pushed around by David West and Chandler. It's painstakingly clear that the Lakers need to invest in a player who can play the PG position well...Fisher won't be around forever.

on another note...lol, the Celtics lost again tonight, this time to the bobcats...what is that 5 straight?

[Terrorblaze]

lol don't compare Ariza to Ronnie. Ariza has game. Ronnie was just Mark Madson with a little more talent.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

It boggles the mind how an NBA player (Fisher) can be so terrible at one of the most basic moves in basketball (layup). Odom goes down with injury and Lakers down 5 with about 6 minutes left hopefully they pull it together as Gasol is having a horrible night.

[DomePatrol]

HUGE win for the hornets tonight. It was a really good game to watch.

[Terrorblaze]

i hate vlad rad even more than luke

[Hombre]

Lakers are really thin now in the bench area...

Gasol and Bynum played terrible tonight...

[Ironhorse75]

LOL Boston drops another to the Bobcats.

Since the 26th they've lost to the Warriors , Blazers without Roy, Knicks, and the Bobcats.

Worst slump since becoming the "Big Three."

[zack54attack]

Finally the Bulls win a game... Geez

[Ironhorse75]

Okay it's not even funny anymore. Celtics lose to the McGrady-less Rockets at home.

There was so much talk about Boston breaking the Bulls record, they might have 10 losses before the half.

[Hombre]

I find it funny that people are still making excuses for them being the best team in the East...you could make the case that the Magic are the best team in the East...or the Cavs...I don't think it's predetermined that the Celtics will automatically be playing in the Finals.

On another note...Lakers struggling again tonight...at least Bynum woke up his offensive game.

[McKenzie911]

The Magic lost to the Raptors so I wouldnt call them the best in the East, It's the Cavs right now for sure. I dont know wtf is up witht the Celtics the Big three are shooting horrible.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

I understand that Bynum is not the load Shaq was/is but I watched the Portand/Laker classic the other night and I suggest Bynum do the same. The low post position Shaq got on a consitent basis led to alot of easy looks it seems like even when Gasol is not on the floor Bynum always gets the ball in the high post or too far away from the basket. Also I read on another forum that Fisher shoots 22% in the paint.. are u f'n kidding me someone should slap some sense into that guy and let him know to stop and pull up for a short jumper or pass the damn ball!!!

[Ironhorse75]

LeBron is doing it all tonight.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

That's not a fair statement.

Other players are a BIG factor too.

[Ironhorse75]

When I say "doing it all" I didn't mean it as a slight to the rest of the team more so that he's having an effect in every facet of the game tonight.

Scoring from deep, driving, passing, locking down Pierce, steals, blocking, help D...

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

lol @ Celtics

[McKenzie911]

lol @ Celtics
I actually think the Raptors stand a chance on sunday they can beat them the way the raps been playing lately.

[Ironhorse75]

Hey, they can still tie the record!

[Terrorblaze]

watching the cavs game was like Madden calling a Favre game

[LVradio]

Go Cavs!

[zack54attack]

Finally the Bulls win 2 in a row.

Im still in shock they are only 1 game out of the playoffs lol

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

I actually think the Raptors stand a chance on sunday they can beat them the way the raps been playing lately.

I won't say they can't...but like the majority of the year, the Cavs play well against decent teams and great teams, and blow out most poor teams.

I wouldn't bet against them, especially if you get to see them. The Cavs just outplay everybody on both sides of the ball.

[Ironhorse75]

I won't say they can't...but like the majority of the year, the Cavs play well against decent teams and great teams, and blow out most poor teams.

I wouldn't bet against them, especially if you get to see them. The Cavs just outplay everybody on both sides of the ball.

Are you talking about Raptors Cavs? I think McKenzie is talking about the Raptors beating the Celtics, who they play next back to back.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

ah.

Well in that case the Raps will win by 9.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

Bootsy Collins made a Cavs anthem lol

http://www.zshare.net/audio/538742194ec9f86d/

[zack54attack]

Bulls hanging in the game.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

Next four games for the Lakers are HUGE...

Back to back Texas two step (HOU & SAS) on Tuesday and Wendesday followed by home dates against the the top two teams currently on Steins power rankings over at ESPN. (Fri vs ORL) (Mon vs CLE)

[McKenzie911]

Raps took the Celtics into OT tonight it was a crazy game in Boston Bosh dunked on Big Baby hard.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

Lakers pull out a close one in Houston, Kobe and Gasol had off nights but as always Kobe went into Mamba mode in the final minutes to secure the victory. Wafer an ex laker had a HUGE night but that was to be expected as we proceed to give up career highs to at least one opposing player a night... defense FTW!

[Ironhorse75]

Bron with the triple double tonight.

Masta, what are your thoughts on Hickson? I haven't seen enough games to pass judgement.

[McKenzie911]

Raps took the Celtics into OT tonight it was a crazy game in Boston Bosh dunked on Big Baby hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq8AmJ_RmLI

lol Sam Cassell in the background.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

Bron with the triple double tonight.

Masta, what are your thoughts on Hickson? I haven't seen enough games to pass judgement.


Very very good young big. Has more potential than I first thought.

Has the skill set for the NBA and the body...Ben and Z being down is a good thing, because he's going to get to see live bullets more frequently than Mike Brown wanted (he said he wanted him to take it slow), meaning come playoff time he'll likely be a better than decent 9th guy.

Seriously, I thought eh kid from Kansas would be better...I don't think so anymore.

[DomePatrol]

CP3 another W and another triple double in the books. Good win over a division opponent considering we also haven't won there since 98.

[zack54attack]

Bulls big win over the Cav's... D-Rose is just plain sick. ROY.

[-G-]

Bulls big win over the Cav's... D-Rose is just plain sick. ROY.

They need to get him in more pick and roll. He's so quick coming off and if you hedge to aggressively he can split it. Reminded me of Wade with a couple moves coming off screens in OT.

[Ironhorse75]

LeBron is gonna have to go into berserker mode because Z and West are key players. Wallace also being out tonight didn't help.

West was pretty optimistic as it wasn't his shooting hand.

[zack54attack]

They need to get him in more pick and roll. He's so quick coming off and if you hedge to aggressively he can split it. Reminded me of Wade with a couple moves coming off screens in OT.

Exactly.

That sick and 1 after Tyrus' block last night was crazy good.

Has anyone noticed Rose playing with more passion lately? After he had 2 And 1's, he pumped his chest and yelled to the crowd. Thats the first time I've ever seen him do that in a Bull's uniform.

[Ironhorse75]

3rd qtr and the Hornets haven't even broken 40 yet. Yikes.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

wow...this Cavs team wins a game like this, down 2 starters, against a legit contender. I wonder what the talk will be?

[Arex Bawrin]

I can't believe the Magic pulled one out AGAIN against the Lakers. Hopefully they can keep this momentum going.

[Hombre]

The Magic are the real deal...although they live and die by the 3...the Lakers just don't have the intensity to match.

Gasol made some stupid mistakes down the stretch that really cost the Lakers and Kobe taking stupid shots at the end of the game didn't help matters much either.

[DomePatrol]

wow...this Cavs team wins a game like this, down 2 starters, against a legit contender. I wonder what the talk will be?

We did beat the cavs earlier in the season and held lebron to only 14 points. It just comes down to nobody beats the cavs in there own damn building...I would love to be a season ticket holder this season.

[zack54attack]

Bulls going for 3 in a row for the first time since the 06-07 season.

But we play the Spurs.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

We did beat the cavs earlier in the season and held lebron to only 14 points. It just comes down to nobody beats the cavs in there own damn building...I would love to be a season ticket holder this season.

The Q is rocking man...

[RaiderNdaBlood]

The Lakers frustrate me when I see how complete of a game they can put together when they play with intensity. Bynum and Gasol owned the paint tonight and Kobe once again showed some phenomenal defense on LB23 holding him to 9 of 29 from the field. Game ended in a blowout but if not for Cavs bricking so many wide open 3's it would have been much closer.

[Hombre]

I agree...it's like they don't get up for certain games...why couldn't they have played with that kindof intensity against the Magic a couple of days ago? I still don't think they are giving the ball to Bynum enough....

I really hope Kobe's finger isn't too fucked up...he's got way too many problems with that hand already. Another big test for the Lakers comes Sunday against the Spurs.

[Ninja SkillZ]

people still watch the NBA?

[Ironhorse75]

The league is busting at the seams with talent.

You're looking at about 5 people under 25 that will most likely be hall of fame material.

[Hombre]

Holy Crap...Andrew Bynum has gone off...should end up with 40+ points tonight against the Clippers.

This is the complete offensive game that every laker fan has been waiting for in regards to Bynum.

[Ironhorse75]

Damn, that Cavs Warriors game was ridiculous!

[DEUCE]

Knicks defeat Rockets....IF the playoffs ended today, from what I understand they're in....gotta love the Eastern Conference and it's mediocrity...it's like when my nephew gets a 3rd place ribbon and my bro in law acts like Greg Fockers' dad.

[Ironhorse75]

Interestingly enough they've only won it 2 times in the last 5 seasons.

[DomePatrol]

CP3 another triple double last night. 3 steals away from a quadruple double. I just want to be there when that happens.

[Ironhorse75]

lol everytime the Lakers have you believing, they'll do something like lose to the Bobcats.

[Hombre]

lol everytime the Lakers have you believing, they'll do something like lose to the Bobcats.

didn't the Celtics lose to the Bobcats?

anyways, horrible loss but they'll rebound...what I don't like is that it was at home too...

[DomePatrol]

Hornets lost to the bobcats youll be alright

[Hombre]

personally, I think the Bobcats are a star player away from being a very good basketball team...they have a good point guard, a good small forward and a good center...and some talented role players...it's a shame they traded away Jason Richardson...

[Terrorblaze]

lakers always lose to the bobcats. wasn't surprised at all

[Ironhorse75]

personally, I think the Bobcats are a star player away from being a very good basketball team...they have a good point guard, a good small forward and a good center...and some talented role players...it's a shame they traded away Jason Richardson...

I think what they really need is leadership.

I think the lack of leadership is what is holding back a lot of talented teams.

[Kwon]

What kobe did yesturday was amazing. Its expected, he does it all the time, but still it never gets old.

[-G-]

I think what they really need is leadership.

I think the lack of leadership is what is holding back a lot of talented teams.

They need a 2nd tier All-Star like Roy or Joe Johnson.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

Hey -G- I lurk over at the realGm boards and saw that you suggested we should trade Bynum for Okafur straight up next year... were you serious? If so why do you think that?

[Hombre]

Hey -G- I lurk over at the realGm boards and saw that you suggested we should trade Bynum for Okafur straight up next year... were you serious? If so why do you think that?

umm?

IMO, that would be stupid...Bynum is really starting to show an offensive game that we haven't seen up until this point and it's really rewarding after what happened last season and the contract we gave him in the offseason....

I don't know why we would trade our best big man for a guy who's just average? I wouldn't trade for Okafor at all, he's just not that good...he's a 10.0 ppg 10.0 rpg guy...nothing really special.

I would trade for Gerald Wallace or Raymond Felton though.

[-G-]

Hey -G- I lurk over at the realGm boards and saw that you suggested we should trade Bynum for Okafur straight up next year... were you serious? If so why do you think that?

It was half-joke/half me being pissed at Bynum for not rebounding, playing defense, and playing soft. I do like Okafor though, I think he's an underrated anchor defensively although undersized, and I like how he plays aggressively. When Bynum plays like a girl, I'd take Okafor over him. Of course, Bynum turned his play around and has been a beast lately, 24/12/3 blocks in his last 5. He started breaking out last January. hopefully he keeps it up. He was the only bright spot in that Charlotte game, looking like a legit #1 guy after Kobe fouled out.

The real problem we're seeing is when Bynum and Pau are both on the floor together, we're just too slow defensively, mainly on jumping shooting PFs since Pau isn't quick enough.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

didn't the Celtics lose to the Bobcats?

anyways, horrible loss but they'll rebound...what I don't like is that it was at home too...


Cavs didn't

:ninja:

Lake Show and Celts lost to the Pacers too.







:ninja:


EDIT:


If Mo Williams doesn't make the All-Star game, the Cavs will win the title guaranteed. LeBron will be pissed.

He told a local beat guy, with a straight face, that he'd give Mo his spot and tell Stern he's not going.

[Bates]

Cavs v. Magic on right now, showing 2 of the top 3 teams in the East. It's a good game so far.

On a related note, my buddy runs VIP at a popular club in town and King James showed up last night. He was a good tipper (says alot about a person with money), so he's ok in my book. As an FYI, I've been told Tiger Woods (who frequents this particular spot) is cheap as shit, lol.

[Ironhorse75]

Pro Tip: GUARD WALLY

lol

[Bates]

Couple of thoughts from tonight's game:

1) The Magic look damn impressive. Jameer is finally playing like the guy I saw at St. Josephs. Lewis, Howard, and Nelson may be one of the most impressive young trios I've seen in a long time.

2) Poor Lebron. Say what you want, but his supporting cast is still pretty damn pathetic. It really is amazing how much better he makes that team. I am constantly impressed by his ability to lift his team (something Kobe has severely lacked until recently and Kobe's still not very good at it, lol).

3) Lebron travels more than Shaq, lol.

[-G-]

Lebron has terrible footwork. That's about all you got right.

[-G-]

If Mo Williams doesn't make the All-Star game, the Cavs will win the title guaranteed. LeBron will be pissed.

He told a local beat guy, with a straight face, that he'd give Mo his spot and tell Stern he's not going.

LOL. Lebron will show up in full gunner mode and lead the East in shot attempts like he has in every All-Star game he's been in.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

2) Poor Lebron. Say what you want, but his supporting cast is still pretty damn pathetic.


lol

you are flat out wrong. Even Michael, in a weaker NBA at the time, couldn't carry a team by himself to the best record in the league. The fact that the East has 3 of the top five teams in the game this year compunds the fact that the Cavs have to be pretty good and pretty deep to be sitting on top right now.

I like that LeBron said this:

"It just shows the disrespect that basketball in Cleveland continues to get. I haven't seen the All-Star list yet, so I can't comment on who's in it. But it's definitely disrespectful that we continue to do work every year with nothing to show for it. They always say when you win, individual accolades will take care of itself. But sometimes it doesn't happen.

"We all believe that Mo's an All-Star and the reason we've had the best record in the NBA right now. Mo's a big part of our team. Just look at the wins and losses from last year to this year with really only one addition - Mo Williams. I'm disappointed for him and disappointed for me because I tried to make sure he got in there by helping him get better."


To just ignore Mo is really odd. And we've had two starters injured for almost a month and still have the best record.

The Cavs are probably the second deepest team in the league, behind Boston. They just shot poorly last night.

[-G-]

^Celtics are the deepest team in the league?

[Terrorblaze]

i still lol at the crab dribble

[zack54attack]

No one in their right mind should put MJ and LeBron in the same sentence (Beisdes this one).....

The Bulls are playing better since beating the Cav's. They havent won the games, but they have had a lead in the 4th quarter in every loss since the win against the Cav's. They just cant finish.

The Bulls really really need a big man that can score... Deng is back to his form, Gordon is scoring like crazy, Tyrus is playing really well, and Rose will be a solid PG for this team for a while.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

^Celtics are the deepest team in the league?

I'd think. they are 10 deep, right? That's what ESPN says.

[Hombre]

I believe we are seeing the birth of next really good big man in the league in Andrew Bynum...

I stout big man is the perfect compliment to Bryant.

[-G-]

I'd think. they are 10 deep, right? That's what ESPN says.

9, and I wouldn't consider Eddie House, Tony Allen, Glen Davis, and Leon Powe a good bench. 10 if you include Scalabrine, who only played because Perkins was hurt. Unless you're talking about the ability to just plug guys in wherever due to the great defense (Boston and Cleveland can do this). Boston's bench will be exposed in the playoffs. I'd say the Lakers are the deepest team in the league (note, that doesn't mean best) followed by Cleveland.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

The second team unit of Sasha, Farmar and Odom can be very frustrating. Some games they come in and blow the lid off the game by getting hot others they give up a big lead, personally I'd settle for somewhere inbetween. Farmar needs to get back to driving to the basket, Sasha needs to utilize the pump fake to take a couple steps inside the arch and settle for the two and Odom... well Odom needs a brain.

[Ironhorse75]

Finally Z is back, 20-11 is a nice return game.

[Hombre]

fuck my life....Bynum hyper extends the same knee that ended his season last year...against the same team...what the fuck?

EDIT: X-rays were negative...MRI tomorrow...

[Terrorblaze]

great now all these hacks like bill simmons are gonna spout a bunch of shit


kurt warner needs to heal bynum

[Hombre]

great now all these hacks like bill simmons are gonna spout a bunch of shit


kurt warner needs to heal bynum

yea, I was reading a Lakers blog and some douche had already started the rumor that Bynum tore his ACL...which, at this moment, is not true.

[-G-]

When I first saw it, I thought he was done. But the way his knee went straight back instead of sideways is good news. I think the reason he was in so much pain was because he just got smashed in the knee by Kobe's head, and he was just in shock. I think he'll be out 3-4 weeks. God I hope I'm right.

[BME]

It was the opposite knee.

[Hombre]

It was the opposite knee.

yea, I mistakenly put it was the same knee....

I'm just holding my breath...I really really hope it isn't any torn ligaments...

[Hombre]

Seriously...I feel really bad for Bynum...he just can't catch a break.

Torn MCL...out 8-12 weeks....sucks.

Hopefully he can come back for the playoffs...he was just starting to come into his own in the league too...now he'll likely have to use the playoffs just to get back to where he was before injury.

I guess next season will be his coming out party.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3879472

[spursfinfan]

lol

[Hombre]

lol...holy crap...the effects of not having another dominant scorer on the court showed themselves as Bryant went for 61 against the Knicks tonight.

I guess that will be the norm for the next 3 months, gone are the days of triple double Kobe...

[-G-]

lol

What are you laughing at? We'll still kick your ass just like last year.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

I was at a party on Saturday night when my brother texted me the bad news.... instant buzz kill. I'm not sure if it's normal or not but this news killed my day everytime I started having a good time again my mind wandered back to our center of the future who now has injured both of his knees...buzz kill.

The Lakers should still cruise through the season but unless Pau develops some defensive intensity or adds bulk it's going to be tough to win a title without Bynum. Get well soon Socks!!!!

[-G-]

I was at a party on Saturday night when my brother texted me the bad news.... instant buzz kill. I'm not sure if it's normal or not but this news killed my day everytime I started having a good time again my mind wandered back to our center of the future who now has injured both of his knees...buzz kill.

The Lakers should still cruise through the season but unless Pau develops some defensive intensity or adds bulk it's going to be tough to win a title without Bynum. Get well soon Socks!!!!

Well, the thing is the timetable sounds very very conservative. He's not having surgery, which means it's a grade 2 MCL tear. That usually takes 6-8 weeks. Bynum is gonna start rehab in about 2 weeks. Obviously after last year though, I'm not going to get my hopes up.

[spursfinfan]

What are you laughing at? We'll still kick your ass just like last year.

ginobili!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!was hurt during the playoffs

his back

[DomePatrol]

Well CP3 went down tonight. They say its a strained groin hopefully he comes back soon. He was walking around just fine after the game but you never know until the next day.

[moz]

ginobili!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!was hurt during the playoffs

his back
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/20/cup_of_LOL.gif

[Hombre]

ginobili!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!was hurt during the playoffs

his back

what about his back?

[spursfinfan]

no big guy, kobe aint sh*t

its over

[Ironhorse75]

Nelson might be out for the season.

Anthony Johnson will now be running the show!

[Terrorblaze]

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/2080-2/kobe-dunk-full_getty-71796446ab012_spurs_lakers_8_18_42_pm.jpg

[spursfinfan]

http://www.zimbio.com/San+Antonio+Spurs/articles/364/Daily+Sports+Select+Manu+Ginobili+will+remembered

http://www.hoopsfantasy.com/manu-ginobili-injury-status-playoff-update/

that was last year

[Kwon]

no big guy, kobe aint sh*t

its over
lol. thats why he went for 61 yesturday. i dont give a fuck if it is the knicks. if its that easy why the fock didnt anyone else do it. no outside now kobes going to jack now. his late 4th quarter performances is going to be that way just about the entire game now.

[spursfinfan]

lol. thats why he went for 61 yesturday. i dont give a fuck if it is the knicks. if its that easy why the fock didnt anyone else do it. no outside now kobes going to jack now. his late 4th quarter performances is going to be that way just about the entire game now.

wtf,lol

never said kobe suc*s, the best in the game

but without a real big man and i don't give a sh*t how many points he scores in the game, lakers arent winning sh*t

1.boston
2.spurs

[moz]

kobe aint sh*t

its over
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/asian_kid_dance.gif

[Kwon]

wtf,lol

never said kobe suc*s, the best in the game

but without a real big man and i don't give a sh*t how many points he scores in the game, lakers arent winning sh*t

1.boston
2.spurs

Lakers?

But in your first post this is what you said.

no big guy, kobe aint sh*t

[LVradio]

23-0 at home!

[James89]

no big guy, kobe aint sh*t

its over

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/GuanDi/2nhq0rp.gif

[spursfinfan]

lol and it begins

right after the super bowl

4 straight years fighting with lakers,nuggets, mavs, and suns fans (sportsgamers and now pastapadre)

[spursfinfan]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/GuanDi/2nhq0rp.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db123b2UZxg

[Ironhorse75]

lol and it begins

right after the super bowl

4 straight years fighting with lakers,nuggets, mavs, and suns fans (sportsgamers and now pastapadre)

You sound surprised.

If SG/PP handed out a "homer of the year" award with the rest of the awards, you would have 4 titles with a 5th one pending.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

23 straight at home.

[DomePatrol]

You sound surprised.

If SG/PP handed out a "homer of the year" award with the rest of the awards, you would have 4 titles with a 5th one pending.

What about that krazyjville homo? I thought that guy took homerism to a new level.

[James89]

What about that krazyjville homo? I thought that guy took homerism to a new level.

You havent seen what poopshark has to say about the Spurs.

[Ironhorse75]

Lol Kobe and LeBron go for 110+ in two games against the Knicks.

LeBron with the monster triple double 52-10-11

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

52 11 10


>>>>


61 3 0

period.

[-G-]

52 11 10


>>>>


61 3 0

period.

lol

[Hombre]

52 11 10


>>>>


61 3 0

period.

I was going to raise the question...but members of this board are so biased one way or the other, it's not worth the argument...lol.

anyways, Kobe shot the ball alot better than lebron and lebrons team didn't do jack...it was all lebron...kobe got 61 points while Gasol was getting 31...there is a difference and I believe Kobe's performance was greater.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

lol at least check the box scores before you post something like that.

LeBron - 52 11 10 (on 17-33)
Ilgauskas - 15 8
Szczerbiak - 12 13
Gibson - 11
Mo Williams - 9 4 2

and every Cavalier got on the board. Lebron accounted for more on tha game than Kobe did because the 11 assists equal 22-33 points, and the Cavs score on about 50% of the possesions they get the ball off of a defensive rebound (of which he had 10).

Kobe had 60 (on 19-31), Pau had 31 and Ariza had 13. Four of the Lakers that played had zero points, and the rest that did only had 6 each. Regardless fo the argument, LeBron had a bigger impact on the game, and he had more help doing it. And the shooting % is similar.

http://obamiconme.pastemagazine.com/entries/images/83/41/536260/original_image.gif?1233280595



...at least this night. How is it arguable?

[spursfinfan]

You havent seen what poopshark has to say about the Spurs.

not even close to the razor

[Terrorblaze]

Masta gots 17 months left let him have his fun

[-G-]

I'd like to see how many 60 point games vs 50 point triple doubles there are in NBA history.

[zack54attack]

Bulls win 3 out of 4. I'm so happy lol.

[Kwon]

52 11 10


>>>>


61 3 0

period.

17-33 vs 19-31 /from the field

2-7 vs 3-6 /3 point

16-19 vs 20-20 /free throw

44:03 vs 35:00 /minutes played

[Fred]

LeBron puts up numbers similar to the ridiculous all around games I used to have with one player in NBA Live on Genesis.

[zack54attack]

Hmmmm Interesting. Look at LeBrons "9th rebound"... Looks like Ben Wallace should have got credit for the rebound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNmDcLwM4IQ&eurl=http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Video-Slap-an-asterisk-on-LeBron-s-MSG-triple-d?urn=nba,139191&feature=player_embedded

[-G-]

Seems that most people that watched both games said Kobe's was more impressive.

[Terrorblaze]

what's being lost in all this is kobe only played 36 minutes. If he played the whole game or jacked up shots in the 4th he could have probably approached 80 again

http://probasketballnews.com/story/?storyid=190

* You can't be anything but impressed with LeBron James' 52-point, 11-assist, 10 rebound performance in New York in the Cavaliers' 107-102 win, even if it did come against the defenseless Knicks. Some people are already saying all James wanted to do was match Bryant's 61-point performance the other night in the Garden. And I'm absolutely positive Kobe's outing had a direct influence on LeBron's. But all the great ones get fired up to have their best nights in the nation's largest market. It's just too bad the Knicks are so helpless to do anything about it.

* Still, James took too many bad shots (i.e. fadeaway three-pointers with too much time on the shot clock),and even took some heat from Cavs legend and television color analyst Austin Carr for getting caught up in the Knicks' wild style of basketball. I watched the game with a friend and when Cavs guard Mo Williams airballed a baseline jumper in the fourth quarter, my friend turned to me and said, "Well, what do you expect? The other guys are gonna be cold when they don't touch the ball."

* That's not to say James was totally hogging it, but he definitely didn't help the offense get into any sort of rhythm by trying to match or surpass Bryant. But again, he put up Hall of Fame numbers and the Cavs won, and you can never argue with the bottom line.

lol

[-G-]

what's being lost in all this is kobe only played 36 minutes. If he played the whole game or jacked up shots in the 4th he could have probably approached 80 again

http://probasketballnews.com/story/?storyid=190



lol

Oh, for sure. I think people started to think Kobe couldn't do that anymore.

[Ironhorse75]

ESPN Poll 80% LeBron performance 20% Kobe.

I think you could make a case for either, but I thought a poll like that would be around 45-55 either way.

[Kwon]

ESPN Poll 80% LeBron performance 20% Kobe.

I think you could make a case for either, but I thought a poll like that would be around 45-55 either way.

most of the people who voted didnt even watch either games and went with the guy who has the best statline...lol.

[Fred]

that or everyone who's not a lakers fans thinks lebrons all around performance was better.

[Bates]

I watched both games, Kobe's performance was WAY more impressive, IMO. That guy was Jordan-esque on Monday night. He was draining everything he shot and there was nothing that could be done. Lebron, on the other hand, was driving and traveling for half his points, lol. I'm not saying the triple-double wasn't one of the top performances of the year, but Kobe's performance was lethal.

*P.S. lol @ Kwon. You and Pacman have to be twins separated at birth.

[Ironhorse75]

How many layups does Rondo plan on missing tonight?

[Terrorblaze]

luke walton needs to just stop

[Ironhorse75]

Seriously, miss more free throws LA.

[moz]

great game...damn those free throws

[rdelizo35]

Lakers 110
Boston 109

Wow.. huge win for the Lakers. Gasol and Odom really stepped up and Kobe was big when he needed to be.

[Terrorblaze]

damn that W was sweet

[-G-]

damn that W was sweet

Fuck those faggots.

[LVradio]

See you Sunday. It'll be a good substitute for no football




Pro Bowl doesn't count.

[Hombre]

I'm really looking forward to Sunday's game with Cleveland...the ultimate Bron/Kobe debate...

[Fred]

eh, regular season games are nice, but in the grand scheme of things they don't mean shit come May/June.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

I'm not saying the triple-double wasn't one of the top performances of the year, but Kobe's performance was lethal.

One of the top performances of ALL TIME. Only one person has scored more in a Triple double, and only one person has more 50+ games in MSG.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

LeBron must be the MVP right? I mean, he's the "only" All-Star caliber player the Cavs have, and we only lost nine games, lead the league in point differential, have the second best record in the league, and will likely win the Championship this year.

Just being in contention like we are in a year where the two previous Finals teams have TWO OR THREE All-STARS and we only have one should mean without a doubt that all of our success is because of him. making him the obvious and only choice for MVP...seeing as he has no other All-Stars to play with and Kobe/KG does.



(This is getting ridiculous. Mo has better numbers than Harris and Allen. This boston hard-on is very tired. I wonder if LeBron is going to do like he did 2 years ago and have an "ankle sprain" so he can't participate in the events [when Z didn't get picked]. I hope so.)

[Fred]

and will likely win the Championship this year.


lol

[moz]

lol
lol x 2


(he makes it too easy year after year)

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

How are those Bulls doing Fred?

[Fred]

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone brought them up. lol The bulls are totally irrelevant to this discussion of the Cavs winning a title and the East for that matter. They may make the playoffs but thats about it. The difference is i dont have these delusions of grandeur that they are actually going to win an NBA title.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

Delusions? The team has the second best record in the league. They are in the argument regardless of what your opinion of the city is. It's delusional to think that they don't have as big a chace to win it as BOS or LA. So, all things considered, I'd take my home team.


Not delusional at all. Not this year. 07? I was a bit delusional there. Not this time. The Cavs have been this good all year, and aren't even healthy.

[Fred]

no whats delusional is you saying they will "likely win the nba championship". Like it's really going to happen. If you had said and "have a chance at winning the nba championship," i'd probably take your opinion on the cavs a bit more seriously. But the fact that you talk about it as if it's already in the bag, you just make most of us LOL and think of you as a homer. And if you want to be a homer of your teams, fine, nothing wrong with that. Just don't surprised if people laugh at you.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

You were laughing when I said they'd go to the Finals in 07. So that's fine. I happen to think, after seeing all the teams as they are now, it's likely that the Cavs get it. It's not a partial opinion--the Magic lost their spark plug and Lakers lost their big man. It's a valid argument.

The Lakers are soft without Bynum, And I think we'll get homecourt and beat Boston in the East Finals. If we get to face the West, I think there isn't a matchup I don't like. In fact, I doubt whoever gets there from the East even need 6 games to win it. i just think it'll be my Cavs.

Like it's really going to happen.

^ This is a snide comment that has no basis in reality. It really could happen, and from where I'm sitting, really will happen.

[Fred]

it has no basis of reality? You said they will likely win the championship. I'm saying, you are saying like it's really going to happen, like if they should just stop playing now because it's on the bag. The reality of it is this. Can it happen? Of course it can happen. WIll it happen? Thats another story. I'll take the odds that they don't win the title over the talk that they "likely will".

Fact of the matter is we are barely approaching the half way point of the REGULAR season. None of this stuff about them having the second best record, or teams being banged up, matters come playoff time. If you want to believe the Cavs are likely to win the championship, go ahead. I, along with the rest of the forum will continue to lol at you. And if the Cavs do win the title I will gladly come back here, and say I was wrong. In all honesty I would like to see LeBron win a championship. I like the guy.

[Fred]

BTW stop making shit up about me laughing at you when you said the cavs would go to the finals. I don't see any of that in the threads on SG. In fact my only posts were about the Bulls lol

http://www.sportsgamer.com/forums/nba-chat/185809-official-07-8-season-thread.html

http://www.sportsgamer.com/forums/nba-chat/70673-official-2006-07-nba-season-thread-17.html

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

The 'you' was pointing a tthe whole board, not you particularly lol. And also, it was the 06-07 year, not last year.

And if the Cavs do win the title I will gladly come back here, and say I was wrong.

You're the only one lol

I'm saying, you are saying like it's really going to happen, like if they should just stop playing now because it's on the bag.

Oh no, I'm never doing that again. Not after 95 World Series, 10-6 Browns 07 but loss to the Bengals and many others. I just feel it's more likely than not going to be the Cavs this year. Just because I think it's likely doesn't mean I think it's inevitable.

...I'm not like the Cowboys fans were in the middle of the season before Ho...I mean Romo got hurt. I know better. They really thought no matter what they'd get it. I just think it's likely.

[moz]

lol Masta makes me not feel sorry for that crappy city known as Cleveland.

[RaiderNdaBlood]

I'm so fucking pissed this morning. So I called off of work yesterday to watch the game with my father in law. I smoked a little ganja before the game to get myself mentally ready and he suggested I take these two blue pills he had (still not sure what the fuck they were since he has gout and has millions of different pills) anyway next thing I know my dumbass is waking up at like 10pm and the games over... FML

[Kwon]

I watched both games, Kobe's performance was WAY more impressive, IMO. That guy was Jordan-esque on Monday night. He was draining everything he shot and there was nothing that could be done. Lebron, on the other hand, was driving and traveling for half his points, lol. I'm not saying the triple-double wasn't one of the top performances of the year, but Kobe's performance was lethal.

*P.S. lol @ Kwon. You and Pacman have to be twins separated at birth.
Lol you sound surprised. Thats what he always does. Outside of the amazing power dunk, watching him isnt very exciting.
What are you talking about?

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

This is pretty much all David Stern wants: http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2009/02/504x_bostonknicks.jpg

[DomePatrol]

Dont know if this has been brought up yet but apparently they took away lebrons rebound.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/02/06/lebron_tripledouble.20090206/index.html