Official 2009 MLB Season Thread

[dlips]

Go Phils!

[HustlinOwl]

Sheffield claimed by the Mets, why? Especially in the NL

[ShimSham]

I hate Myers.

And I'm a huge Braves fan.

So this is a pretty good night so far.

[JBourne90]

Damn, Sox home opener delayed until Tuesday...

[Cudi]

opening fucking day baby

[MannyBeltre]

Fucking Minnesota. Starts the game late while I'm in class. Just because they are in a shitty dome and can't enjoy the sun on what is supposed to be Opening DAY. Might miss Griffey's first at bat back in a Seattle uniform.

[Nephew E]

lol Pirates

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http://community.post-gazette.com/blogs/pbc/archive/2009/04/02/manatee-shocks-world-beats-pirates.aspx

SARASOTA, Fla. -- Virgil Vasquez gave up three runs in 4 2/3 innings, and Dave Davidson was charged with a blown save as a collection of the Pirates' top prospects lost to Manatee Community College, 6-4, at McKechnie Field in Bradenton.

Steve Pearce homered for the Pirates.

Tony Mitchell went 2 for 3 with a double and three runs for Manatee, which won for the first time in 11 exhibition meetings.

The game ended with Manatee left fielder Nick Graham made a diving catch near the foul line to take away a potential tying hit from Henry Henry with runners on first and second.

"I was so happy I caught it," Graham said. "I was ecstatic. It was awesome."

[MannyBeltre]

I love that they took away the tying hit from Henry Henry lol.

[HustlinOwl]

Bonifacio, is my early MVP candidate for my fantasy team. Picked him up on Waivers for $1.

[Griswald]

Big Z going for win # 1 today. Can't wait.

[HustlinOwl]

Bonifacio just added a HR

[Griswald]

Great way to start the season. Soriano starting it off with a HR. Nice.

[Nephew E]

goddamn jeffrey maier karma

[Tdoggy]

Griffey is a god

[Terrorblaze]

lol at san diego

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

fcuk baseball.


basically, I can't root for my Indians anymore, because the Dolans suck balls and Shapiro can't pull the trigger on anything good.

so baseball is dead to me.

oh, 9-1 losses help that feeling.

[Hombre]

damn, CC got roughed up.

[LVradio]

I'm glad CC got owned. I think he's going to go 13-13 this year.


Way to go Cliff Lee. You fail.

[vikngs4lifee]

MLB 09 the Show has rekindled my love for baseball.

I'm glad CC got owned as well. Fck the Yankees!

[Bates]

Griffey is a god

Nice to see the prettiest swing in baseball back in the old Mariners' uniform.

[Rylo]

Go Marlins! Great 2 wins to start the season.

Oh and that opening day gram slam by Hanley was pretty sweet.

Opening Day rosters look like they will stay the same I think.

Paulino is working out good already, nice trade.

Bonifacio, wow, kid is insane.

[MannyBeltre]

Fuck we should have won that game. I hate losing it in the ninth, and if we don't have Felix or Bedard on the mound it will be hard to win games. We blew a Bedard start, now we have lard ass Carlos Silva on the mound tomorrow. Hopefully our offense steps up.

[dlips]

Big comeback win by the Phils, would have been terrible to start the season 0-3 at home. Can't wait for Cole to come back

[Cryomaniac]

Bad first start for Sabathia. I'm still rooting for 10 complete games this year.

[Cudi]

I love baseball...easily my favorite sport to follow. Glad to see the Reds finally got in the W column. I like the way this team is playing. Granted, we lost 2 out of 3 to the Mets but I like our offense now, it doesnt just rely on home runs. Taveras is going to be big for this team.

[James89]

Hopefully LA's bullpen improves throughout the year.

They just blew a lead to the friggin Padres!!!

[HustlinOwl]

I love baseball...easily my favorite sport to follow. Glad to see the Reds finally got in the W column. I like the way this team is playing. Granted, we lost 2 out of 3 to the Mets but I like our offense now, it doesnt just rely on home runs. Taveras is going to be big for this team.

Good to hear Gomes reported to AAA now hopefully he gets called up once Taveras is healthy and replaces Darnell McDonald, then I will really love this offense.

[kyhadley]

Bad first start for Sabathia. I'm still rooting for 10 complete games this year.

Not gonna happen with him playing in the major leagues this year, especially the AL East, and especially as he just keeps getting fatter.

[dmull]

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booya

[LVradio]

Holy shit the Indians are bad right now.

They've given up 42 runs in 4 games.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

Who wins more games:

The Cavs (regular season + postseason) or the Indians (same)?

I'd say the Cavs.

I also cant believe Pavano's ERA is higher than the amount of points the Cavs have given up to teams.

Damn Indians.

To top it off, they wouldn't let fans back into the game after leaving (MASSIVE rain delay). And likely won't refund or even credit fans. Worst management in Cleveland Sports right now.

[LVradio]

I noticed how there was NOBODY in the stands after the delay. I think the Indians are doing a lot of deals for dirt cheap tickets this year, probably because they're going to suck.

Well, the Indians would have to be above .500 to win more than the Cavs. So I would agree. Although the last time they started 0-3 was '96.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

We had pitching back then though.


...I'd bet walk up sales are going to dip. The Prog will be empty.


...the Prog. Damn Indians.

[Cudi]

lol the Cubs bullpen

[jokah03]

lol the Cubs bullpen

LOL brewers bullpen.

ALF.

[dmull]

brewers aren't going anywhere with this pitching staff. the bullpen is held together by tape and jeff suppan is a fucking abomination.

i'm happy weeks is playing so well, though.

[Cudi]

Great game today by Harang, good to see him back to his 07 form. Now we begin a long ass road trip through the teeth of the NLC...

[MannyBeltre]

Bedard today, if he pitches as well as he has these first two games and we are out, come deadline time we can expect the mothership of prospects.

However I would much prefer him staying and us making a run, we have played incredibly well these first seven games. Hope we can keep it up. USS Mariner is right when it comes to outfield defense, makes a huge difference.

[G-MAN]

The Orioles are actually improving for the 1st time this century :D

We just need depth in the rotation.

[Tokyoo]

I love how Crede's first at-bat against the White Sox was a homer.. woo woo. If we can get Baker and Mauer back healthy, I think the central is ours to lose.

[Tdoggy]

Pleasantly surprised by the M's. Score when the other team is scoring runs, but there have also been 1-0 and 2-0 wins. Pretty cool. All hail Z.

[MannyBeltre]

If Morrow can hold up and Aardsma, Kelly, Lowe, Corky, and Jak can provide just solid setup then this team could go places.

Also need Silva to step up and make sure Lopey and Yuni continue to hit the ball well and we got a solid club.

I really like Rob Johnson behind the plate the other day, will be interesting to see the future there with Clement and Adam Moore in the mix as well.

But get to go to Opening Day tomorrow, can't wait for Jr's introduction.

[Tdoggy]

I love the outfield. Endy Chavez is a great player to have.

[HustlinOwl]

Ramon Hernandez (BA .105) and Alex Gonzalez (0/16) are playing terrible for the Reds, yet Ryan Hanigan and Paul Janish are better defensively and cannot hit much worse than these two.

[Cudi]

Alex Gonzalez is a f'n joke...I dont know why we kept him over the off-season. Hes an injury prone piece of shit. Keppinger was so much better. That being said, I like how our team is starting to play. Goin' for the sweep tomorrow

[Sportswriter]

Boston is playing like ass right now. 2-6, I know it's early, but damn.

Thank you Kevin Youkilis for being the bright spot.

[Tdoggy]

How was it manny? That game was awesome in every way

[Terrorblaze]

Clayton Kershaw


Get Familiar.

[James89]

Clayton Kershaw


Get Familiar.

I hate missing his starts cause I had to work.

Saw he got 13 K's though. I'm watching the re-run right now but it isnt the same =/

[Tdoggy]

Ichiro is the shit

[HustlinOwl]

LOL

One of the umpires working Thursday's Cardinals (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/56)-Cubs (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/48) game reportedly said he intends to inform the Commissioner's Office there was physical contact involved in Milton Bradley (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/3448)'s ejection, meaning Bradley could be subject to a suspension. The Chicago Tribune reported late Thursday night that second-base umpire Larry Iassogna said a report would be filed because it was a "contact" incident. Bradley was ejected in the sixth inning by home-plate umpire Larry Vanover after a called third strike and a brief but heated verbal exchange. Iassogna declined comment when asked how Bradley made contact with Vanover, the Tribune reported.

[Tokyoo]

Omfg greatest game ever. Hit for the cycle, including the go-ahead grand slam. Jesus.

[Rylo]

10-1.

[Terrorblaze]

Go Dodgers! (Doyers)

[James89]

Damn Kershaw is just one year older than me.

Really trippy when you think about it. I can't imagine pitching in the majors right now.

[Fort]

Ellsbury just stole home against the Yankees a little bit ago. That was awesome...

[MannyBeltre]

Today's game sucked balls, but the season has been great so far. With Felix and Bedard it will be tough to ever have a long losing streak. Hopefully Jarrod just had butterflies being in his old stomping grounds or something, he had pitched great those first few games.

[Cudi]

Nice to see the Reds start 10-8...playing good teams as well. Hopefully we can take another series from the Astros like we did in Houston.

[James89]

Andre Ethier is such a beast

Our bullpen is tough to watch though. I cringe whenever someone other than Broxton comes out.

Hopefully Kershaw comes out of his slump as well. Hes been getting rocked since that 13K game.

Oh well 2nd best record in baseball right now cant complain about that.

[MannyBeltre]

Awesome game yesterday. Only game that I have been to that beats it is the game against the Red Sox back in 2000 that went to the 19th and Mike Cameron hit the game winning home run.

But the team just showed so much heart out there. Been awhile since my voice has gone horse at a Mariners game.

[Sportswriter]

Redsox and Yankees tonight on ESPN. Let's go Redsox.

Also has anyone seen Kansas City's pitching staff eat batters alive lately?

Also Seattle is off to a good start, but that really dosen't surprise me. It was just a matter of Seattle staying healthy and playing consistently because they have the talent.

[Sportswriter]

Zach Greinke = Beast

[Terrorblaze]

Go Doyers!


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[James89]

Manny suspended 50 games

FML

[Sportswriter]

lol at Manny that's not a surprise.

I think they should be banned for life. I think perhaps that's the only way to send an effective message.

[James89]

2 games without Manny, 2 losses.

Ugh

[Sportswriter]

2 games without Manny, 2 losses.

Ugh

I think they will still make the playoffs. They have to much talent not to make the post season.

Matt Kemp, Andre Either and James Loney are a strong young unit. Players like Casey Blake and Orlando Hudson add great leadership even without Manny.

Correct me if I am wrong but Hudson leads the team with 43 hits thus far.

Not to mention the pitching is getting better. Eric Stults threw a gem tonight against the Giants.

[HustlinOwl]

I think they will still make the playoffs. They have to much talent not to make the post season.

Easily the play in the NL worst and Manny comes back before the All-star break July 3rd

[James89]

I think they will still make the playoffs. They have to much talent not to make the post season.

Matt Kemp, Andre Either and James Loney are a strong young unit. Players like Casey Blake and Orlando Hudson add great leadership even without Manny.

Correct me if I am wrong but Hudson leads the team with 43 hits thus far.

Not to mention the pitching is getting better. Eric Stults threw a gem tonight against the Giants.

Well yea I'm not worried about making the post season, just how his suspension will affect the team. This could cost us home field in the playoffs. 50 games is a LOT.

[MannyBeltre]

I picked the Dodgers to win the series, so obviously they have some talent besides Manny. But even without him they are by far the best team in the NL West. Ethier and Kemp are monsters.

[James89]

I picked the Dodgers to win the series, so obviously they have some talent besides Manny. But even without him they are by far the best team in the NL West. Ethier and Kemp are monsters.

I'd be surprised if Kemp didnt win a gold glove this year.

And yea Ethier has been great so far. Hopefully his numbers dont drop off dramatically while Manny is gone.

[DEUCE]

I haven't seen a team play like the Dodgers are playing right now since, well, Joe Torre's LEGIT Yankees teams, you know....the ones who won Championships?

[James89]

Thank god we came back to win that game in the 10th

I hate the Phillies (sorry dlips)

[Tokyoo]

Last night's Twins game.. epic. Joe Crede --> Beast. If we would have lost on a goddamn balk in the 13th inning, I swear to God..

[dlips]

Thank god we came back to win that game in the 10th

I hate the Phillies (sorry dlips)

I was there today, first game of the year for me and actually the first since I was there for one of the NLCS games against LA in the fall. Offense was awful throughout but at least they made it exciting forcing extras.

[OhMyBosh!]

Jays have a legit shot at the postseason this year.

The Yanks just arent that good and are too old, and the Sox have issues with Ortiz and whatnot...
Plus, by the end of May/June their rotation should be: Halladay, Romero, Janssen, Cecil, Richmond which is pretty damn good, and then come September they could get Marcum and/or McGowan back...
their hitting is much better, they could potentially trade some of their pitching/bullpen staff to get a permanent 1B upgrade or something too.

I would be surprised if the Jays didnt at least win the AL Wild Card.

[DEUCE]

Jays have a legit shot at the postseason this year.

The Yanks just arent that good and are too old, and the Sox have issues with Ortiz and whatnot...
Plus, by the end of May/June their rotation should be: Halladay, Romero, Janssen, Cecil, Richmond which is pretty damn good, and then come September they could get Marcum and/or McGowan back...
their hitting is much better, they could potentially trade some of their pitching/bullpen staff to get a permanent 1B upgrade or something too.

I would be surprised if the Jays didnt at least win the AL Wild Card.


Could be...now I'm not talking shit, but every time the Jays look like they're postseason material, they fall apart in the latter portion of August, just about the time when NY and BOS start to get things rolling...as a Yankee fan, I honestly DO like what I see from Toronto, Aaron Hill's hitting .339 and 10 HRs, plus Wells and Rios always put up strong numbers. X-Factor for the Jays though? Scott Rolen, when healthy? he's deadly, not just with his glove.

[LVradio]

Indians suck...however I did get a voucher pack for my birthday for free tickets to 4 Indians games and 6 buy one, get one vouchers. So I'll be going to a few games this year. I love baseball games and I haven't gone to one since 07, so I'm excited. Hopefully they won't play like shit when I go though.

[Bagel]

7-game win streak for the Brew Crew right now. It sucks that Rickie Weeks is done for the year, though. In past years, I probably would have been glad but he's made lots of improvements this year and was playing really well both at the plate and in the field.

[HustlinOwl]

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[DEUCE]

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Reckon the Orioles lost that game....Yanks are on a 7 gm winning streak, LOVE IT!

[HustlinOwl]

Zambrano over Hamels?
Vlad and Delgado LOL
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[Tokyoo]

31 runs in two games. Two guys have hit for the cycle this year for us already. Joe Mauer is on roids. That is all.

[dmull]

LOL at braun being 32 on that list.

[zack54attack]

Mauer has been a stud so far for me in one of my fantasy leagues.

[CR Knight]

lol @ Miggy being 28.

[DEUCE]

A-Roid 5-5 yesterday...niiice....Yanks have finally found their niche, they're coming together now early into the season, I'm stoked about the possibilites once Posada comes back, as well as Bruney....

[SheriffBooth]

Jeter and Rivera and Chipper at 8 and 9 and 10? And Carl Crawford nowhere to be found? lol

[zack54attack]

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[mtk91]

31 runs in two games. Two guys have hit for the cycle this year for us already. Joe Mauer is on roids. That is all.

Ha my brother is convinced that Mauer is on roids

Hasn't he already topped his career high for homers in a single season?

[Terrorblaze]

Doyers!!!!

best record in roidball

[Cudi]

Carlos Beltran has the swine.

[MannyBeltre]

Pretty dirty that the Braves released Glavine. Give him the respect of letting him play out the year and giving him a shot.

[DEUCE]

Anyone interested in picking him up?

[Sportswriter]

I enjoyed seeing Randy Johnson get his 300th win today. There won't be another to do so for a couple decades if that.

[JBourne90]

Ya, congrats to him. He pitched an outstanding game.

I honestly dont know if we will ever see another one. Of the top stud pitchers right now, Sabathia IMO is the only one with a legitimate chance, and even his isn't very good. It'll be interesting to see the next generation come in and see if the pitchers of the future have similar results.

[SheriffBooth]

Pretty dirty that the Braves released Glavine. Give him the respect of letting him play out the year and giving him a shot.

Is that the same respect he gave the Braves when he turned down their contract offers to go the Mets for more money?

They're trying to win this year and in the future. Getting Hanson in the rotation now makes them the best team possible, and they think with McLouth and with the Mets and Phils not exactly setting the world on fire that they can make a run in the East.

Glavine was a great player for the Braves, but he's the past.

[MannyBeltre]

But they instruct him to make rehab starts, he does, announces he is ready, and then release him. I understand playing for the future, but they did not even give him an opportunity to start a game at the ML level after all the rehab work they instructed him to do and he completed.

[DEUCE]

The GM told him that he wasnt good anymore and he couldn't get anyone out...lol,damn that's cold hearted.

[Terrorblaze]

Ethier!


Doyers Doyer Doyers!!!

[HustlinOwl]

Mets LOL

[James89]

Ethier's got some cojones

What a beast!!

[MannyBeltre]

All offense today for the M's in the draft, good thing that Jack Z recognizes our problem, absolutely ridiculous how little run support we give our starters.

But can't wait for Ackley, will be fun when he gets up here.

[Terrorblaze]

going to Dodger Stadium tomorrow to watch Kershaw own the Whale's Vagina Padres

[DEUCE]

going to Dodger Stadium tomorrow to watch Kershaw own the Whale's Vagina Padres



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You stay classy San Diego

[AllDayVikings28]

All offense today for the M's in the draft, good thing that Jack Z recognizes our problem, absolutely ridiculous how little run support we give our starters.

But can't wait for Ackley, will be fun when he gets up here.



oh for sure, i was soo glad the Ms took this guy. averaged over .400 the past 3 years and can played first base as well as outfield. Willy bloomquist with power. lol



but i dont like the chances of signing him after the guy going first wants 20mil and both him and Ackley have the same agent....

[MannyBeltre]

Nah dude its cool with him. He'll look for something in the 8 million range, I bet it settles around the 6.5.

Strasburg is a special case, they'll sign Ackley for sure.

[HustlinOwl]

Yankees 0-8 vs Boston LOL

[DEUCE]

Yankees 0-8 vs Boston LOL



hater lol....they're just playing well against us, don't know for the life of me why we just can't get over the hump.

They've exposed our problems in the bullpen, SEVERELY!

[LVradio]

"After spending Friday contacting a number of wildlife and animal organizations, the Indians concluded that increased nesting on flat rooftop buildings in Cleveland's Flats district has led to the ballpark's problems.

The Flats used to be a district full of bars, restaurants and nightclubs along the Cuyahoga River, but now sits mostly desolate. Except, of course for the gulls, long a common sight along the shore of the roughly Vermont-sized lake."

In the ESPN article about the seagulls at the Indians' ball park.


"Flats look like a Scooby-Doo ghost town..."

[mtk91]

I heard the Twins scored 20 runs a while ago

[JBourne90]

Anyone honestly surprised by this?

Report: Sosa tested positive in 2003

NEW YORK -- Sammy Sosa tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug in 2003, The New York Times reported Tuesday on its Web site, the latest in a string of baseball stars implicated in the sport's steroids scandal of the past decade.

The Times said Sosa is one of 104 players who tested positive in baseball's anonymous 2003 survey, which has been the subject of a protracted court fight. The paper did not identify the drug.

It cited lawyers with knowledge of the 2003 drug-testing results and reported they spoke on condition of anonymity because they did not want to publicly discuss material under court seal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4264062

[MannyBeltre]

Put an asterisk. Hate it that he is with Aaron, Ruth, Mays, and Griffey in the 600 club (I don't count Bonds). Such an achievement.

If Thome gets there I'll get sick. Jim Thome in a class with those guys. Ugh.

[Cudi]

No surprise at all.

On the bright side the Reds finally got back on track after getting swept by the Royals. Ugh.

[SheriffBooth]

Sosa a cheater? No way (sarcasm).

I think it's funny nobody so far has brought up the fact that he was also caught corking his bat.

This guy was a cheater through and through. Anything to hit the ball better, but cover it with charisma and hope nobody will care.

[LVradio]

Put an asterisk. Hate it that he is with Aaron, Ruth, Mays, and Griffey in the 600 club (I don't count Bonds). Such an achievement.

If Thome gets there I'll get sick. Jim Thome in a class with those guys. Ugh.
Thome's my homeboy. I miss him adjusting his cup everytime he stepped up to the plate. It was lolzy.


It's sad that the whole 90's was tainted by steroids, especially since the 90's Indians are the reason why I got into sports. I mean when I first got into sports the Cavs were in the toilet and the Browns, were on a hiatus.

[SheriffBooth]

Yankees 0-8 vs Boston LOL

Yankees - 26

Red Sox - 7

[DEUCE]

Yankees - 26

Red Sox - 7

Couldn't have said it any better myself, thank you.

[SheriffBooth]

Couldn't have said it any better myself, thank you.

And I don't even like the Yankees, lol.

[MannyBeltre]

Got one from the Yanks, that was nice to see. But Felix day for game one against Boston!

[Terrorblaze]

Manny coming back

[Cudi]

If you would've told me at the beginning of the season that on July 3rd, the Reds would only be 2 games out of 1st place in the NLC, and 2.5 out of the WC, I would have been ecstatic.

[HustlinOwl]

The way Dusty manages still holds this team back. Why is Taveras still starting in CF when he clearly sucks and Hernandez is still our starting "C" when Hanigan is they only player hitting consistently. Nice to have Votto back.

[Cudi]

Agreed...Taveras is awful. Dusty doesn't play the right players when it comes to Taveras/Dickerson/Nix. I never thought I would say it but I can't wait for EE to get back

[HustlinOwl]

He was called up today, but not starting tonight

[Tokyoo]

http://coffeyvillewhirlwind.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/battingchamp.jpg

That is all

[MadSkillzz]

Agreed...Taveras is awful. Dusty doesn't play the right players when it comes to Taveras/Dickerson/Nix. I never thought I would say it but I can't wait for EE to get back

Dickerson is actualy a pretty good defender, and Nix can be good at times, but yes Tavaras should only limit to pinch running.

[dlips]

Got to see a big win tonight for the Phils in great seats, and a pleasantly surprising much-needed strong performance out of Lopez as well

[dmull]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/jami3406/cubs2brewers1.jpg

makes me want to puke.

[MannyBeltre]

Felix pitches another great game without a win, ridiculous how unlucky he is.

But we beat Boston which is the important thing, Rob Johnson FTW.

[Sportswriter]

Felix pitches another great game without a win, ridiculous how unlucky he is.

But we beat Boston which is the important thing, Rob Johnson FTW.

We will get you back today.

And Mannyroids is back with the Dodgers again.

[MadSkillzz]

Manny hits his first home run back.

[MannyBeltre]

At the game tonight, Washburn with a one hitter. Talk about a contract year.

[Sportswriter]

Toronto released B.J. Ryan today. I think he still has a lot in the tank and just needs a change of scenery. (Terrible Spelling lol).

[JTynes]

Tim Wakefield the best pitcher in the American League? Who would've thought?

[dmull]

that brewers game was laughable.

[Sportswriter]

no-no for Sanchez.

[MadSkillzz]

no-no for Sanchez.

Freaking Juan Uribe.....

[Sportswriter]

Freaking Juan Uribe.....

Could have been perfect.

[Terrorblaze]

Clayton Kershaw is a fucking stud

[DEUCE]

Yanks cant take a game vs the Angels/Sox (wahdahfuxgohinohn!?)

Last pitcher to beat Boston?

Mike Mussina, he retired at the end of last season.....fml

[SheriffBooth]

Went and saw the Nats and Cubs play in Washington on Saturday night. Pretty good game - Zimmermann was mowing the Cubs down until made the mistake of throwing a first pitch strike to Soriano...3-run shot to center. Except for that one pitch Soriano couldn't get the bat on the ball.

There were more Cubs fans than Nats fans at the game. The Nats after Willingham in the 5 hole are just terrible.

Really impressed by Nyjer Morgan - it looks like trading Milledge to the Pirates for Morgan was a good move for the Nats in the long run.

[James89]

Manny Rameriez is sick.

Pinch Hit grand slam off a 96 mph fast ball with no batting practice before hand. I'm glad I caught this game.

[MannyBeltre]

Manny Rameriez is sick.

Pinch Hit grand slam off a 96 mph fast ball with no batting practice before hand. I'm glad I caught this game.

Don't worry. Him being sick means that the pre-pregnancy pills worked.

Congratulations!

Anyway, Felix > All.

[Tdoggy]

True dat

[DEUCE]

Buerhle tosses a perfect game...wow

[Terrorblaze]

LOL seattle we all know the mariners won't be a factor in October might as well just start looking forward to sonic bball

Oh wait

[JBourne90]

Buehrle is God. A no-hitter and a perfect game (27 batters each time) in just over 2 years. Unbelievable.

[MannyBeltre]

LOL seattle we all know the mariners won't be a factor in October might as well just start looking forward to sonic bball

Oh wait

http://thegrandnarrative.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

When you have the best rotation in baseball at the moment, the leader in avg and the the guy who is second in the league in homers, we could do more damage than some think. Don't forget the best outfield defense in baseball.

I still think it would in best interest for the team long term to trade some of the guys, but if they decide to stick with it we could make it close.

And lol at thinking I still care about the Sonics. I gave up on the NBA a long time ago when I noticed more effort in the timeout entertainment than what the players were doing on the court.

[Tdoggy]

Branyan has been a revelation. He has always been a decent player. When the M's signed him, I remember thinking, OK a platoon first baseman. Man has he been awesome.

[dmull]

i have a huge crush on 3TO aka russell the muscle. he's revered as somewhat of a god in milwaukee. was bummed when they didn't try and resign him.

zduriencik is gonna be taking seattle places no doubt.

[MannyBeltre]

I love how we hired him ahead of Tony Bernazard, that Mets vice-president who got in a fight with his minor league team and started ripping his clothes off during his rant.

Zduriencik is already a god here. USS Mariner mentions it all the time.

He was able to trade Yuni, which is a miracle in its own right (and what he got for him to is absurd). But Gutierrez will be an All-Star and probably deserved going this year, Branyan was signed for cheap and putting up monster numbers, Aardsma traded for nothing, Langerhans gives solid plate approach and excellent defense, and he is great at the draft which he proved in Milwaukee.

I'm honestly ecstatic about the future of the team. Its the first time I can say that since 2001.

[Tdoggy]

Are the prospects we got from the trades any good?

[MadSkillzz]

Matt Holiday goes to the Cardinals

[quiasian08]

god i fucking hate the cardinals.

[SheriffBooth]

If I were a Cubs fan everytime Milton Bradley came to the plate my friends would have to stop me from jumping out the window or OD'ing on sleeping pills or something. Especially now that the Cards have Holliday.

[MannyBeltre]

yay, Holliday is on my fantasy team and this should help me out.

But Tdoggy, here's what USSMariner said about the trade.

Most of us would be walking away from this one with smiles on our faces just because we rid ourselves of the enigma that is Yuniesky Betancourt. It’s a little odd that we also happen to be trading him to a team with a history of shortstop enigmas, and in a city with a storied barbecue scene to boot, but while Royals fans will be left to puzzle over the aftermath, we came out pretty good even with the cash sent their way.

Daniel Cortes was a seventh-round pick of the White Sox in 2005 out of a California high school, and has a legitimate arm that regularly sits in the low-90s and can hit the mid-90s. The middle of the plate, however, proves to be problematic for him as his walk rate is consistently between three and four+ for his career. On top of that, he’s had a weak season in which his command has been even worse than usual, with more walks and fewer Ks. He doesn’t have much of a change-up and has some trouble with left-handers stemming from that, but his curveball grades quite nicely and he’s still only twenty-two, and pitching in double-A. If he isn’t a starter, he could be a worthy reliever if they get the kinks ironed out. Commenter Slurve also found an old story that would suggest that his overall makeup is pretty good too.

Derrick Saito will be regarded by some as a throw-in, being a 5’9 lefty with college experience who is merely putting together some good numbers in the Midwest League, but I wouldn’t undersell him. When he was relieving in college, he could hit 97 mph on the gun, and offset this with a curveball that ranked among the best in the conference. He has all the pitches to start, it’s just a question of durability I suppose, but at worst, he could be an interesting left-on-left reliever. Southpaws don’t hit him well, with just a .212 average against and extra-base hits that you could count on one hand. He strikes them out at a rate of 11.30 per nine, but his walk rate is over three and three-quarters, even after some significant improvements over last season.

Both arms have some issues, but they have upside. After all of the Mariners continued efforts over the years with Yuni, no one can say they didn’t try with him. Whatever happens from here, I’m pleased with the haul we got.

[dmull]

I love how we hired him ahead of Tony Bernazard, that Mets vice-president who got in a fight with his minor league team and started ripping his clothes off during his rant.

Zduriencik is already a god here. USS Mariner mentions it all the time.

He was able to trade Yuni, which is a miracle in its own right (and what he got for him to is absurd). But Gutierrez will be an All-Star and probably deserved going this year, Branyan was signed for cheap and putting up monster numbers, Aardsma traded for nothing, Langerhans gives solid plate approach and excellent defense, and he is great at the draft which he proved in Milwaukee.

I'm honestly ecstatic about the future of the team. Its the first time I can say that since 2001.

word on the street is the brewers are trying to get washburn. i think the rumored deal involves hardy and a few minor prospects going to seattle, which honestly would disappoint me as i'm a huge hardy fan and am not as high on alcides escobar (aaa ss) as most people.

[MannyBeltre]

word on the street is the brewers are trying to get washburn. i think the rumored deal involves hardy and a few minor prospects going to seattle, which honestly would disappoint me as i'm a huge hardy fan and am not as high on alcides escobar (aaa ss) as most people.

There is a big debate as to whether the deal is for Hardy or for Escobar. Seattle Times says its Escobar, USS Mariner says never would Milwaukee give him up and that it is for Hardy.

I hope its for Escobar, I like Hardy but he will be a one year stop gap. With this team falling off the face of the earth this weekend, we need to build for the future.

It will be interesting to see what Washburn does after that. He loves it here now and our pitching coach and has said he wants to re-sign, but Wisconsin is home. If he comes on for cheaper than before I'm all for it.

[dmull]

after tonight's thrashing by the nationals (the nationals) i'm sort of hoping the brewers don't make any moves as i don't think adding someone like washburn will get them over the hump.

this team is just not that good.

[peterson_taylor]

How about Garrett Jones on the Pirates, he just got called up not that long ago and is on fire.

[SheriffBooth]

after tonight's thrashing by the nationals (the nationals) i'm sort of hoping the brewers don't make any moves as i don't think adding someone like washburn will get them over the hump.

this team is just not that good.

They need more than one questionable starter, that's for sure. After Gallardo their rotation is godawful. They needed Parra to progress and they needed Looper or Suppan to transform into good pitchers. Neither happened.

Plus I'm not sure what Macha's thinking with his lineups. Why is McGeehee sitting behind Bill Hall and Craig Counsell? When you know the pitching is bad, you've got to get your best hitters in the game - having your best defenders in the field won't help when every starter except Gallardo is giving up 4 earned every game. They just have to try and score more runs.

[James89]

Wtf is wrong with the Dodgers

Way to show we are for real =/

[JBourne90]

Buehrle is friggin Jesus. Retiring 45 straight is unbelievable, regardless that our team sucks right now.

[dmull]

They need more than one questionable starter, that's for sure. After Gallardo their rotation is godawful. They needed Parra to progress and they needed Looper or Suppan to transform into good pitchers. Neither happened.

Plus I'm not sure what Macha's thinking with his lineups. Why is McGeehee sitting behind Bill Hall and Craig Counsell? When you know the pitching is bad, you've got to get your best hitters in the game - having your best defenders in the field won't help when every starter except Gallardo is giving up 4 earned every game. They just have to try and score more runs.

yes, macha's lineups are definitely my biggest problem with him. he favors his veteran players way too heavily, despite the fact that most of them (kendall, hall, etc.) suck. whenever he puts kendall leading off i want to murder someone. he also really misused gamel when he was up, giving playing time to the "best third baseman in the league" in bill hall. counsell's actually been having a really good year, so i don't mind him so much.

something really needs to be done in the offseason so the brewers can try and make another legit run while they still have braun, gallardo, fielder, etc.

[MannyBeltre]

Jeff Clement was pulled in the third inning in a minor league game with no injury, a deal happened and no one know what yet.

Supposedly there were rumors that We would send Morrow and Clement to Cleveland, they send Lee and Martinez to Tampa, and the Rays send us Kazmir and someone.

I would love it for us, but that seems like way too much to give up for Clement and Morrow. I don't think Clement has much of a future, and Morrow has not performed well, but still has value.

Also the Mariners and Brewers talked today, supposedly Jack want Rickie since he drafted him and everything, I would go crazy if that happened. But you can't trade players on the DL, so something would have to happen.

But the Brewers, Yankees, Rangers, and Phillies scouted Wash tonight and he put in another great performance. Gotta love his trade value.

[dmull]

i would fucking kill someone if rickie got traded for a rental.

[dmull]

i'm serious.

kill.

[Tdoggy]

Manny remember when everybody in their mother just wanted Washburn gone for nothing? lol

I would be the happiest man alive if we got Kazmir though. Tampa is also getting a good deal too. I haven't followed non-Mariners baseball much this year, but Martinez was a very good player at least, and Lee is still a very good pitcher. Clement and Morrow have both been disappointments and I don't think they'd ever be anything useful in Seattle. Better to trade them while they still have somewhat of a "hot prospect" tag, and maybe they will pan out somewhere else.

I've always had a boner for Kazmir though. I'm surprised there are at least rumors of such a big deal with the series against Cleveland we just had lol. And even Felix was fucking up.

[MannyBeltre]

What I like about the deal is that they can say that its for the future and for now. Kazmir is still young and someone who could be a top pitcher, and the prospect would be Reid Brignac who is a highly rated shortstop prospect. So he could take over and get rid of Cedeno who is good defensively, but couldn't hit for anything.

Oh and dmull, looks like your Brewers are throwing in the towel this season. They are pulling out of Washburn talks, lucky you. I was really hoping for Weeks lol.

[Tdoggy]

I like Cedeno lol

btw Saunders rocks too

[Tdoggy]

Clement, Cedeno, Pribanic, Lorin, and Adcock

for

Jack Wilson, Ian Snell

Per ESPN

Wilson is very good, and Snell is pretty decent, and I think he's from DE lol

But, I would have rather had Kazmir.

[SheriffBooth]

I don't understand the point of that trade.

A career .690 OPS, 31 year old shortstop for a young .800+ OPS potential catcher/DH. Snell's numbers might get a boost in Seattle, but he's little improvement over Vargas or Olson or Smith.

I'd rate Seattle's playoff chances this season as slim at best, so why they'd give up Clement and prospects for Wilson escapes me.

[dlips]

Cliff Lee without giving up Happ, Drabek, Taylor or Brown.

Win.

[Tdoggy]

Now Wlad to Cincy for Robert Manuel. Eh trade

[MannyBeltre]

I don't understand the point of that trade.

A career .690 OPS, 31 year old shortstop for a young .800+ OPS potential catcher/DH. Snell's numbers might get a boost in Seattle, but he's little improvement over Vargas or Olson or Smith.

I'd rate Seattle's playoff chances this season as slim at best, so why they'd give up Clement and prospects for Wilson escapes me.

Clement has no future here, and he is not even a catcher. He is a dh/1b and we don't need that, we have Branyan.

Wilson is maybe the best defensive ss in the league. They plan on keeping Wilson long term and Snell has the potential to be very good.

Everyone is rating this as a huge win for Seattle.

[SheriffBooth]

Wow, if "Everyone" thinks its a huge win, it must be.

Here's Keith Law's analysis of Wilson and Snell:

I imagine Seattle's motivation for acquiring Wilson and apparently picking up his $8.4 million option for 2010 is based on his defensive value; Wilson is one of the best defensive shortstops in the majors, ranking at or near the top of National League shortstops in every advanced defensive metric this year. Wilson is, of course, a terrible offensive player, and he's not going to be any less terrible in the better league. He's also 31 and has lost what speed he once had, so his defensive abilities are much more likely to decline in the future than they are to improve or even stay at this level. Seattle has made strides in the standings this year by emphasizing defense, but the thing about loving defense and finding it to be an undervalued asset is that if you pay Wilson $8.4 million, it's not an undervalued asset anymore.


The Mariners also get wild card Ian Snell, he of the million-dollar arm and 10-cent makeup. Snell has starter's stuff but is not a big or physical guy, has trouble keeping his delivery together for 100 pitches, and hasn't shown the temperament or concentration required to be a starter. A player can certainly grow up or see some improvement in things like focus or feel for pitching, but Snell also looks like a starter who would make a good convert to relief work, which, as it turns out, is something of a specialty of the Mariners' front office.

[MannyBeltre]

I was referencing the talk radio I was just listening to. Tim K also liked the deal, and USS Mariner is okay with it, but like it more now that we know the Pirates are paying the vast majority of Wilson and Snell's contract.

But anyway you spin it, Wilson is much better than Cedeno/Betancourt and Snell will be an improvement for whenever he is called up.

[Tdoggy]

Washburn to Detroit for Luke French and Mauricio Robles

Getting back some of the young pitchers we lost yesterday.

[MadSkillzz]

Washburn to Detroit for Luke French and Mauricio Robles

Hell yeah! Detroits got the AL Central wrapped up now with 4 good pitchers

[SheriffBooth]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict Washburn's numbers the rest of the way head towards his 3 year average (ie 4.5+ ERA and 1.35+ WHIP). And with 80 or so innings left on the season, that means 5+ ERA and 1.5+ WHIP for the Tigers.

Seattle got out of Washburn at just the right time.

[MannyBeltre]

We got two very good pitchers out of it, and one who is 23 and already has major league experience. Heck of a trade pulled by Jack.

Robles has pitched well in the minors and appears to be a k machine, while French will move into our rotation right away and is more of a flyball pitcher which fits Safeco and our outfield defense.

Basically we traded an old Jarrod Washburn for a 23 year old Washburn with better upside and a promising relief arm.

I appreciate what Washburn has done over the last season and a half, I'll be happy if he comes back here in free agency for a smaller contract. Was at Safeco for his one hitter, he really grew to like it here but this season is done and we need to build for the future.

[MadSkillzz]

Lets just say this

Detroit made this trade to be contenders this year

Seattle made this trade to be contenders down the road

[harmon]

Hopefully the Giants take someone off the 25-man roster soon and Freddy is able to go by tomorrow. I've got upper deck tickets and it would be awesome to see him play his first game as a Giant. Also get to see new Giant Ryan Garko and watch Lincecum pitch. Tomorrow is gonna be a great day. :)

[Tokyoo]

AL Central getting shook up.. Peavy to White Sox, Twins get Cabrera, and Tigers get Washburn. Damn.. interesting.

[JBourne90]

AL Central getting shook up.. Peavy to White Sox, Twins get Cabrera, and Tigers get Washburn. Damn.. interesting.

We gave up way to much; Poreda and Richard are going to be studs, and Peavy's going to be out for another month or so. Plus he costs an outrageous amount of money.

[SheriffBooth]

Crazy trade deadline action this afternoon. Craziest in my memory.

Martinez to the Red Sox, LaRoche back to the Braves, Nick Johnson to the Marlins, O-Cab to the Twins. Plus all the pitchers changing hands.

[quiasian08]

martinez to the redsox! man it just seems too damn unfair!

[MannyBeltre]

Crazy day, was out for it all so missed it, but definitely shakes things up.

Oh and Clement hit two home runs in his first two at bats for AAA Indy lol.

[MannyBeltre]

Evidently that "promising" lefty I referenced earlier is much more special than I thought...

Everybody is focusing on Luke French, the 6-foot-4 lefty starter acquired from the Detroit Tigers this morning in the Jarrod Washburn trade. Larry Stone has an excellent rundown of French and all of his pros and cons in his most recent blog post.

But my sources in Detroit tell me the real key to this trade was the 20-year-old Venezuelan in Class A ball, Mauricio Robles. The fact that he made the Venezuelan team at the WBC tells you a lot.

His strikeout numbers tell you more.

Since advancing to High A ball, he's got 40 in 35 innings. One of my sources described him as "easily a top-five prospect in the entire Tigers system.''

That's not Top-5 in pitching. That's in everything. At age 20.

"I guarantee you this is what made Jack take the deal over what the other guys were offering,'' one source said of GM Jack Zdurtiencik.

Here is a story in the Detroit News bracing Tigers fans to be ready to regret losing Robles in a few years.

Robles is a 5-foot-10 lefty who can throw in the mid-90s and is still developing. Did I mention that he's lefthanded? That combo of southpaw and power at such a young age is bound to get attention.

The Detroit story I posted compares Robles to Jair Jurrjens of the Atlanta Braves. He's a guy the Tigers traded to Atlanta two seasons ago. Jurrjens has now become one of the better starters in the National League, with a 2.69 ERA and 134 innings pitched at age 23.

French is a major league starter, but projects more towards the back end of the rotation. I'm told he could eventually become a spot starter, long man type, but we'll just have to see. He hasn't been going all that deep into games, which is common for pitchers breaking into the majors.

But from what I'm hearing, he was just secondary.

"This deal has Jack Z.'s fingerprints all over it,'' my source told me. "This Robles kid is exactly the type of guy he likes to go after. I have no doubt that if he didn't get Robles, this deal would not have been done.''

Washburn, by the way, has been named as next Tuesday's starter by the Tigers. Detroit was in desperate need of a lefty given the Dontrelle Willis fiasco. Comerica Park plays better to lefties than just about any in the bigs. There are a few great teams that have had championship runs without a lefty starter, but not many. The 1984 Tigers won a World Series and the great 1954 Indians went to one without a southpaw in the rotation. But that's about it the last 60 years.

Wow, how times have changed. A year ago in May, Washburn was destroyed at Comerica in what may have been the worst outing of his life. Now, Comerica is his home park.

By the way, for those of you saying the Mariners should have held on to Washburn, tried to extend him and then taken a Type B compensation pick had he left as a free-agent, that would not have worked.

First off, he makes $10.3 million this season and to get the pick, he'd have to be offered arbitration. Had he accepted, a very likely outcome, he'd get a certain raise to anywhere from $12 million and up. That's Roy Halladay money.

So, no. The Mariners were not going to get the pick. Would they have re-signed him? Who knows? Obviously, the Mariners felt they were better off dealing him and taking their chances this winter.

By the way, as an aside to all of this, the Tigers, and the Red Sox, are said to have inquired about the availability of Felix Hernandez, according to Jon Heyman of SI. I can confirm the Detroit end of that. But there is no evidence that Seattle did any of the approaching. Still, as we all talked about on the blog this past week, this is how baseball teams think and try to get an edge. Other teams now realize the Hernandez situation is going to become an issue for the Mariners within the next 12 months.

Tigers fans should delight in the Jarrod Washburn trade.
For the next two months.

After that, prepare to take a long, anguished bite on a lead bullet, because Mauricio Robles has a chance at being for Seattle what Jair Jurrjens has been for the Atlanta Braves.

Robles, a left-hander, is that good.

Fans don't pay much attention to the minor leagues, particularly to the lower rungs, but they should -- and for this reason.

Robles is 20 years old. He was promoted earlier this year from Single A West Michigan to Single A Lakeland. That's a big step for a kid who can't yet buy a drink.

And yet he has flourished. He has 40 strikeouts in 35 innings and only 14 walks. He had a 4-2 record and a 3.60 earned-run average.

He would have been pitching next year at Double A Erie and probably a year or so later in Detroit, barring injury.

That's why the Mariners happily sent Washburn to Detroit rather than bite on any of the other drooling suitors who wanted to pry away Washburn for the remainder of this season (he becomes a free agent this autumn).

The Mariners wanted Robles. Luke French, the other pitcher the Tigers included in today's deal, is a solid, light-tossing finesse pitcher who has a role in the big leagues, probably in long relief.

But it was Robles that made today's deal possible. And it will be Robles that Tigers fans may dread having lost in the years ahead.

[LVradio]

lol Indians

[JBourne90]

lol Indians

They did get a lot of talent back, half of which is former 1st or 2nd rounders. As a Sox fan, I'm worried about them 3 years from now. With all the pitching they got in return, they could have one of the best rotations in baseball.

[quiasian08]

bullshit. Those players are going to be no-names in the future. God damn baseball just feels so lopsided!

[Jehu22]

Just read an article about the trade and am not really concerned with giving up Robles to get a Washburn. He was 8-6 in single A ball with an over 4 ERA. Even if he is this great talent he still has a long way to go to make the majors. The tiger's aren't going to be like the Yankees and Red Sox competing for a title every year. Their current window is probabaly closing a little bit and if Washburn can give a chance at a title i'll take it. Even if Robles is all of the sudden the next Nolan Ryan.

FYI: you can read the article here (http://detroithustle.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/breaking-down-jarrod-mfing-washburn/)

[JBourne90]

bullshit. Those players are going to be no-names in the future. God damn baseball just feels so lopsided!

lol

Masterson is going to be a stud from Boston; he pitched really well last year in their playoff run, and Carrasco from the Philly deal is a really advanced prospect and was Philly's best prospect pitcher not named Happ or Drabek.

Not to mention LaPorta (from the Sabathia trade) is going to be an outstanding 1b or corner outfielder someday.

Not to mention they weren't going anywhere soon anyways, might as well trade the guys you can right now and get the most value you can from them.

[MannyBeltre]

I'm a big fan of Masterson, I think he could be a great #3 or a good #2. Hard to come by in trades, especially a guy his age with big league experience.

[Nephew E]

Yanks!!!

[Terrorblaze]

Ethier > all


holy shit

[DEUCE]

Yanks went 7-1 against the Sux and Jays....lookin' good

[MannyBeltre]

New Yankee Stadium is bullshit, doesn't deserve that name in the slightest. Its basically batting practice that is only juicing home run numbers more than steroids ever did.

The final Red Sox game was absurd, until the final runs, all of them just came from homers. Its stupid dumbed down baseball.

But going to the game tomorrow and get to boo A-Fraud. Yay.

[Tokyoo]

"It might be dangerous," he said, according to the report, "but so is drinking and driving. And how many of us do it at least once a year? Pretty much everybody."


Bronson Arroyo is a faggot

[quiasian08]

In my mind Greinke is still the best pitcher in the league... if he just played on a decent fucking team he would be like 17-3 or around there.

[Nephew E]

lol cubbies

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4502934

While celebrating a come-from-behind, ninth-inning win over the San Francisco Giants on Thursday, the Chicago Cubs couldn't avoid yet another "Cubby Occurrence."

First baseman Derrek Lee scored the game-tying run ahead of Jeff Baker, whose two-out, two-strike home run off San Francisco closer Brian Wilson put the team in line for the win.

As Lee and Baker were mobbed by teammates in the dugout, relief pitcher Angel Guzman slapped the side of Lee's helmet, causing Lee to experience neck spasms that forced him to come out of the game for defense in the bottom of the ninth.

Lee has missed numerous games over the years with neck and back spasms, after initially suffering the injury in a home-plate collision in 2006.

After the game Thursday, Lee told team personnel that he'd be in the lineup Friday night, but the team's training staff could insist that he sit out a game or two.

Manager Lou Piniella coined the term "Cubby Occurrence" to explain strange happenings that may have factored into the organization going more than 100 years without winning a World Series.

[SheriffBooth]

It's not likely, but I'm really rooting hard for the Braves to make up the 3 games they need on the Rockies to squeak into the NL Wildcard. With Chipper and Cox both nearing retirement I'd really like to see them make a couple of more playoff runs before they hang 'em up.

[DEUCE]

Yanks vs Sox tonight big 3 game series in NY

[DEUCE]

Yanks magic number is down to 1, CC pitched another gem tonight and fuck that, Teixeira has been a godsend.

[tonybologna]

My Braves are making a push as well! GO BRAVES! :)

[Tokyoo]

The Twins are setting us up for another huge letdown in an extra game :(

[tonybologna]

My Braves are now done! :shakehead:

[Tokyoo]

The Twins are setting us up for another huge letdown in an extra game :(

Game 163 tomorrow night, prepare for heartbreak

[Tokyoo]

Jesus christ, why do Minnesota sports always need to be like this

[CNStars17]

this is rowdy

[Tokyoo]

http://www.baseballpilgrimages.com/american/metrodome.jpg

LONG LIVE

OMFG

GREATEST GAME OF MY LIFETIME

better than packers game, omfg

[HustlinOwl]

lol Twins fans suck, still not sold out

[James89]

That was an incredible game

Hope the Twins upset the Yankees

[Tokyoo]

lol Twins fans suck, still not sold out

The tigers game set a metrodome attendance record.. tickets were selling for more than the Packers Vikings game tickets were

[tonybologna]

What a game. Now, I hope the Twins whip the Yanks. I don't expect it but you never know in baseball. :D

[dlips]

Best pitcher in baseball.

[tonybologna]

Best pitcher in baseball.

Who's the best pitcher in baseball? :)

[MannyBeltre]

Best pitcher in baseball.

I know, just won Pitcher of the Month too. Went 6-0 with a 1.84 ERA, insane.

Felix is just too good.

[James89]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LETS GO DODGERS LETS GO!!!

One game away from the NLCS

[Terrorblaze]

DOYERS!!!!


http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-10/49750942.jpg


:bananadance::bananadance::bananadance:

[DEUCE]

Gm 3 in Minnesota....brooms?

[Tokyoo]

No way the twins fail in the dome.. there's still some Magic left


I hope :S

[Terrorblaze]

The Freeway series is coming....


El Maniaco vs Señor Gaga

[Bartle B]

No way the twins fail in the dome.. there's still some Magic left


I hope :S

Let's go, Punto! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap. Let's go, Punto! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap. Let's go, Punto! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.

Oh, and dig the sig.

[BonesMahoney]

Vulgar Display of Power ftw.

[tonybologna]

I hope the Angels kick the Yanks butt! :D

[DEUCE]

I hope the Angels kick the Yanks butt! :D


I should ban you for that comment :ninja:

[Terrorblaze]

I hope the Angels kick the Yanks butt! :D

don't worry they will

[tonybologna]

I should ban you for that comment :ninja:

Ban me but it still will not take away your hurt from losing to the Angels. :bananadance: ;)

[Twelf12]

You hear that?.......that's the sound of Tulowutski choking

[DEUCE]

Let's go, Punto! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap. Let's go, Punto! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap. Let's go, Punto! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.

Oh, and dig the sig.

I'm stealin' that shit lol

[Tokyoo]

If the Twins knew how to properly run the bases and the umpires didn't suck dick all year, we would've had 90+ wins and maybe at least 1 win against the yankees. Ironic that we have lost so many games because of baserunning when fundamentals are what the Twins are supposed to be all about :rolleyes:

[dlips]

Choooooooooocchhhhhhh

[Bartle B]

Choooooooooocchhhhhhh

Please, can someone explain to me why they call him that?

[Terrorblaze]

every time I see Thome in the on deck circle I get a boner

[DEUCE]

I'm going out on a limb here, I rarely make predictions (see Orlando vs Los Angeles) and I'm thinking that....I'm thinking that....I'm think....ahh fuck it, I ain't sayin' shit 'til the series is over.

[James89]

every time I see Thome in the on deck circle I get a boner

If he doesn't get a hit he's pretty much useless I hate that we signed him.

That said.....WOOOOOOOT series tied 1-1

[DEUCE]

sloppy game yesterday but a classic none the less. 2-0 Jankees!!!

[tonybologna]

I didn't make it through last nights game. Yanks up 2-0. C'Mone Angels! :shakehead:

[Terrorblaze]

broxton is a fat piece of shit

[Bartle B]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/37304206.png?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1256013896&Signature=P8b4giZSj4PKHaSdQ5eKZ19SJ4E%3D

lol

[James89]

Closers are like Kickers.

Love them when they come through, hate them when they blow it.

I've never loved Broxton though, so I guess that makes him less than a kicker.

[dlips]

http://www.foxnews.com/images/240728/0_61_howard_ryan.jpg

[dmull]

wanted the dodgers, but i'm fine with rooting for the phillies in the series.

[Tokyoo]

Fuck the Yankees

[Nephew E]

Fuck the Yankees

lol the twins are sitting at home. and you'll really hate us when we take that guy in your avatar next year :cool:

[James89]

http://www.foxnews.com/images/240728/0_61_howard_ryan.jpg

Biggest nose Ive ever seen

[Tokyoo]

lol the twins are sitting at home. and you'll really hate us when we take that guy in your avatar next year :cool:

Honestly I'd love to think he cares more about the money.. but also I highly doubt the shit-ass Pohlad family doesn't put all of their remaining money that's not invested in Morneau into Mauer. If they let Mauer walk, they let 90% of their season ticket holders walk