PFC 11: Bedlam

[JerkFaceFave]

PFC 11: Bedlam

HW title fight:
Champion Antonio Nogueira (Todd Gilmore) VS Antoni Hardonk (Lucky Lacy)

#1 contender fight:
Gabriel Gonzaga (Killakrok) VS Frank Mir (D0S3)

LHW title fight:
Champion Tito Ortiz (ballhawkdawk) VS Forrest Griffin (Killakrok)

#1 contender fight:
Michael Bisping (AJ Kid) VS Wilson Gouveia (JerkFaceFave)

MW title fight:
Champion Thales Leites (BIGG10DOGG) VS Anderson Silva (chad182)

#1 contender fight:
Nate Marquardt (ballhawkdawk) VS Dan Henderson (SoonerTEX)

WW title fight:
Champion Martin Kampman (Todd Gilmore) VS Matt Hughes (Lucky Lacy)

#1 contender fight:
Georges St-Pierre (AJ Kid) VS Josh Koscheck (Killakrok)

LW title fight:
Champion Joe Lauzon (Todd Gilmore) VS Sean Sherk (ShapelessHorror)

#1 contender fight:
Gray Maynard (AJ Kid) VS Hermes Franca (BIGG10DOGG)

Undercard:
Brock Lesnar (ptwaugh) VS Tim Sylvia (ShapelessHorror)
Cheick Kongo (BWIGGZ) VS Brandon Vera (Cha0s11)-NO CONTEST
Justin McCully (ballhawkdawk) VS Mirko Crocop (JerkFaceFave)
Fabricio Werdum (Govano) VS Andrei Arlovski (Jonb95825)-NO CONTEST
James Irvin (BIGG10DOGG) VS Chuck Liddell (EdNick30)-MOVED TO PFC 12
Houston Alexander (Govano) VS Rich Franklin (CThrash13)-NO CONTEST
Thiago Silva (EvilLilImp) VS Lyoto Machida (Satchmo Davis)
Rashad Evans (Lucky Lacy) VS Wanderlei Silva (D0S3)
Damian Maia (King of K1ngs) VS Kendall Grove (ShapelessHorror)
Marcus Davis (BWIGGZ) VS Mike Swick (DarthObvious)
Thiago Alves (ptwaugh) VS) Ben Saunders (EdNick30)
Diego Sanchez (D0S3) VS Karo Parisyan (chad182)
Matt Sera (SoonerTEX) VS Thiago Tavares (chad182)
Kenny Florian (King of K1ngs) VS BJ Penn (EvilLilImp)
Roger Huerta (BWIGGZ) VS Tyson Griffin (Satchmo Davis)

PFC 11 runs until August 16th at 11:59, all fights must be completed by then, or they will be declared a no contest.

[B_Wigglez]

Vera(Cha0s11), Swick(DarthObvious), and Griffin(Stachmo) I have work until Wednesday so after 10pm PST during those days but after that I'm off till Sunday so anytime I'm good just let me know..

[D0S3]

Frank Mir (D0S3) defeats Gabriel Gonzaga(Killakrok) by TKO at 4:08 of Round 3

Round 1: Mir still has his loss from Werdum fresh in his mind and is gonna avoid the same mistake twice against Gonzaga. The fighters touch gloves and the action begins. Mir comes out with a stepping overhand right that lands on Gonzaga. Mir is putting nice punches together mixing it between the head and body. Gonzaga goes for a takedown and it is stuffed. Gonzaga is finally putting together some strikes landing great body kicks and a big kick to Mir's head. Mir responds with a flurry of body punches. Gonzaga goes for the takedown and this time gets it. Gonzaga gets to side control but is reversed and Mir works ground and pound all the way to mount. Round ends with Mir in the mount position.

Round 2: Gonzaga is looking more determined this round and looking to deal some damage in round 2. Mir is continuing to land punches but Gonzaga goes for the takedown gets it on Mir. Gonzaga is landing good shots from on top working all the way to mount, but he loses mount immediately. Mir manages to get to open guard and works some gnp before they get back to standing. Gonzaga gets a another takedown and works to side control. Mir manages to transition himself to side control offense and works to mount. Mir lands some big shots on Gonzaga and the bell rings with a great round for Gonzaga but a good end for Mir.

Round 3: Mir continues to work his stand up game landing a leg kick and mixing up punches to Gonzaga's body and head. Gonzaga returns the favor with some body kicks and a head kick that is blocked. Gonzaga goes for a takedown and gets it. Gonzaga works ground and pound all the way to mount using reversals along the way. Mir counter grapples a punch and survives the onslaught getting the fight back to half guard. Mir works a transition and ends up in half guard offense. Mir transitions to side control and works big knees before being reversed which puts Gonzaga in north south. Gonzaga goes for the mount down transition and is reversed by Mir into open guard defense. Mir lands some elbows before returning it to standing. Gonzaga reaches for a Muay Thai clinch but he misses. Mir lands some body shots and goes a Muay Thai clinch which also misses. Gonzaga reaches for another Muay Thai clinch and misses again. Mir then goes for a big high kick and catches Gonzaga in the body stunning Gonzaga. Gonzaga crumples to the ground and Mir goes in for the kill. The ref jumps in and stops the fight due to strikes at 4:08 of round 3.

Your winner by TKO.......Frank Mir.

Fight was a war. Great fight Killakrok. Your reversals were on point. You controlled me in the second, but I managed to mount you and land some big shots on your body. The third I thought you had me when you mounted me but I got out and managed to finish it. Great fight again Killakrok.

[Killakrok]

Fight was a war. Great fight Killakrok. Your reversals were on point. You controlled me in the second, but I managed to mount you and land some big shots on your body. The third I thought you had me when you mounted me but I got out and managed to finish it. Great fight again Killakrok.

Yeh. Gonzaga's GnP wasn't strong enough to end it and Mir's BJJ was too much to keep him down. Great fight.

[AJ Kidd]

George ST-Pierre (AJ Kid) beats Josh Koscheck (Killakrok) via KO at 1:27 of the 3rd Round to become the #1 contender for the WW Title.

1st Round - It was all Koscheck, taking GSP several times to the ground and keeping him there almost all round on side control and full guard.

2nd Round - It was the other way around, GSP keep Koscheck on the ground almost all round getting the mount and leaving Koscheck with a lot a damage.

3rd Round - Again, GSP slams Koscheck and takes it to the ground this time finishing the fight via GnP from mount.

[crisis182]

Diego Sanchez (D0S3) VS Karo Parisyan (chad182)

Round 1
Diego comes out an immediately works for the takedown. He doesn't get it at first, but eventually he lands one. They tumble around on the ground a bit and Sanchez works towards the mount. Parisyan is able to get a reversal to North/South but after a bit more struggling Diego gets back on top and gets mount. TONS of damage to the body as Karo wiggles about before the round ends.

Round 2
More of the same. Parisyan stuffs a couple of takedowns with nice sprawls but can do anything with them eventually getting driven to his back. After some more ground struggling they get back to the feet where Sanchez continues his work to the body eventually rocking Parisyan and knocking him down. Sanchez towers over Karo's limp body with a ton of strikes before Herb Dean steps in for the TKO.

Winner: Diego Sanchez at 3:10 of Round 2 by TKO

There was an unfortunate amount of lag. I'll be upgrading my internet in a couple of weeks. I bought a new house and will have the internet coming in on a hard wire instead of this shitty shared wireless. Sorry for the lag D0S3, I'm sure it's my connection.

[SoonerTEX]

Ballhawkdawk and Chad182 - I will be available Tuesday-Thursday beginning at 8:30pm PST so we can get our fights in. Let me know if this works/doesn't work. Good luck to you guys.

[ptwaugh]

Alves vs Saunders...

Saunders starts with a leg kick that gets grabbed and he gets taken down...
Alves works hard to pass Saunders guard...
Alves gets Mount...
Alves gets a few punches in...
Saunders gives up his back...
Saunders flips him over...
Alves with the rubber guard...
Alves to the Mount...
A few more punches...
Saunders to his back...
Alves back to the mount...
A few more punches...
Saunders to his back...
Alves back to mount...
Punch...
Punch...
Punch...
KO...

Alves with KO at 3:12 of Round 1.

[Lucky Lacy]

After a gritty back and forth fight, Evans wins by armbar w/ 11 seconds left in the 2nd round.

[Thrash13]

Govano, just let me know the days and times you are available. I'm looking forward to it.

[crisis182]

Ballhawkdawk and Chad182 - I will be available Tuesday-Thursday beginning at 8:30pm PST so we can get our fights in. Let me know if this works/doesn't work. Good luck to you guys.

I'm off all day Thursday so this shouldn't be a problem for me.

[Satchmo Davis]

Lyoto Machida (Satchmo Davis) vs. Thiago Silva (EvilLillmp)

Machida wins via KO from mount late in round 3.

Hard to summarize this fight, it was definitely a battle. In the third round, I was able to reverse him from side control into side control of my own, then I reversed his attempt at major transitioning back into side control to gain mount. I sat on top of him, landing strikes when the shots were open and eventually rocked him and KO'd him with a shot to the face.

Hopefully this can turn into a winning streak for Lyoto Machida after some struggles early on. Great fight Evil!

[crisis182]

Champion Thales Leites (BIGG10DOGG) VS Anderson Silva (chad182)

Round 1
The round is back and forth. Leites controls the fight on the ground landing lots of blows the body. Anderson just stands and takes it.

Round 2
More of the same. Anderson does get several nice shots in and a little Muay Thai work, but mostly it is just Leites punching Silva in the body over and over and over and Anderson locked up taking blows.

Round 3
More of the same. Silva is knocked down from body taps but survives. He manages in this round to actually start to do damage and gets mount. But not much is done. Leites gets Silva into guard after reversing out of having his back taken and ends the fight with taps to the body.

Winner and still Champion Thales Leites by TKO at 4:01 of Round 3

This was unbelievably frustrating. Despite how fast Silva is, I couldn't block, counter, or step away from repeated body uppercuts. It's like an infinite combo in Tekken. BIGG10DOGG is clearly just better than me, but it was frustrating. This is the first time I've seen a fight ended with hooks to the body. I'm just frustrated. I guess I should figure out how to play this way.

[h23p21]

Nice write up. GF

[crisis182]

Matt Serra (SoonerTEX) VS Thiago Tavares (chad182)

Round 1
Tavares comes out and has a very solid round. He works the kicks to the leg, body, and head and does solid damage. Late in the round Serra scores the takedown and is able to do some damage. 10-9 Tavares.

Round 2
Serra is more crafty on the feet in this round. He lands several big punches and again spends a good amount of time on the mat. Tavares seems unable to stuff any takedowns. 10-9 Serra.

Round 3
Very similar to Round 2. The only difference is Tavares is able to get the Muay Thai clinch and lands several vicious knees. Serra is again very effective with his takedowns and has solid ground and pound. A cut that was opened on Tavares' face in the 2nd Round begins gushing even more. This round is pretty even then right at the bell Serra scores a knock down with a lunging right hand. 10-9 Serra.

Winner: Matt Serra by Unanimous Decision 29-28 across the board.

This was a very good fight. I was a little frustrated with the lag, but again I think that is my connection. Hopefully when I move and am off wireless these problems will cease to exist. I can time reversal like mad playing my friends but not online. Good fight TEX!

[SoonerTEX]

That was a battle, bro. Wish there wasn't a lag so we both could have worked the reversals a little more, but it was a good fight to the end. I made it my mission to not be over aggressive but rather pick my spots and get timely shots in, and that might have been the difference. Both of our fights have been very even and our skill levels are definitely similar -- great fight.

[T&B]

Tim Sylvia submits Brock Lesnar late in the first round.

Both men show respect and Brock comes out throwing strikes, though he's really looking to clinch. Tim manages to get a handful of short combinations in before Brock catches him and pancakes him on his back. After a few attempts at mount, Tim is able to get to guard and then to his feet. Lesnar misses with a big punch and Tim counters with a short hook. Brock throws one to the body and this time Tim catches it and slams brock. Tim stands in Brock's open guard and throws a couple body shots before passing to side. Brock is able to swivel to north/south and then attempts to take Tim down, but Tim throws a couple of punches from a sprawl and then pushes Brock off of him. Both men throw a few punches in each others' face. Brock once again catches Tim's arm, but Tim pummels his way to over/under and drags Brock to the mat. He immediately mounts and tries to pound on Lesnar. Brock covers up and attempts to roll, but Sylvia knows he is tired and capitalizes on it by locking on one of his patented armbars.

Brock taps.

Good fight, dude. I figured you were going to treat this fight like the Cro-Cop fights and look to get me on my back, since Sylvia is really all about punching. Luckily, Tim has pretty good clinch grappling defense in this game, and I used that to my advantage when I could. Both of our fighters are pretty garbage on their backs, so I knew it was only a matter of who could get mount first.

[AJ Kidd]

Gray Maynard (AJ Kid) beats Hermes Franca (BIGG10DOGG) via KO from mount at 1:59 of the 3rd Round to become the #1 contender for the LW Title.

1st - Very even, we exchanged punches standing up and we also exchanged in the ground with both fighters landing several shots.

2nd - This was Franca Round, he got the mount and keep me there for awhile, I think if Hermes were a wrestler instead of a BJJ he finishes me.

3rd - Maynard slams Franca, after a couple of seconds gets the mount and cause Maynard has the advantage of being a Boxer/wrestler he inflicts more damage with several shots to the head until it is all over.

I thought for sure I was going to be rocked in that second round after all the shots I took to the body. GF man.

[kingofk1ngs]

Florian wins a 3 round stand up battle by unanimous decision. Great fight Evil, it went back and forth the whole time. I had a lot of fun

[ballhawkdawk]

Winner and still champion... Tito Ortiz defeats Forrest Griffin via GNP KO in the 5th round.

The details are fuzzy, but here goes...
Round 1: even. Tito did a bit more damage on the ground, Forrest was landing a ton of body shots and a couple headkicks.
Round 2: Tito. Forrest had his moments, but it was lots of Tito ground and pound.
Round 3: Tito. Pretty much the same as the second. I had Forrest rocked at one point but couldn't finish him off.
Round 4: Forrest. Brutalized me from various positions on the ground. I was lucky not to get finished.
Round 5: Kinda even but Forrest had taken more damage. I got him with a haymaker from guard with 15 seconds to go. I was trying to make sure it didn't go to the score cards. He had a few more sub attempts than I did, plus he did more reversals and transitions. I hate leaving it to the Undisputed judges.

[General Zod]

Sean Sherk (T&B) submits Joe Lauzon (Todd Gilmore) via kimura at 3:00 of round 4.

Round 1: Lauzon gets it to the mat, stays on top most of the round landing lots of effective strikes. Pretty dominant round for Lauzon. 10-9 Lauzon.

Round 2: Sherk gets some good slams, but eventually Lauzon gets top control again for most of the round and ground and pounds. Back on the feet Lauzon attempts a flying armbar that doesn't get anywhere. 10-9 Lauzon.

Round 3: Both fighters exchanging punches and kicks on the feet, Sherk stuffs several takedowns. Eventually Sherk gets an inside leg trip and takes it down, gets to mount. Lauzon is exhausted but manages to sweep Sherk. From there Lauzon continues to GNP like he has the rest of the fight. Very close round, but probably 10-9 Lauzon.

Round 4: Lots of striking. Sherk eventually takes the fight down again with another trip. Immediately goes for a kimura and muscles through it for the tap.

The winner and NEW PFC Lightweight Champion. Sean Sherk (T&B)

Good fight. I did way better than I expected. Very back and forth. I felt like I was winning the fight up until the end. I had a lot of trouble spinning the stick when I went for my sub attempts and then when T&B went for his I absolutely couldn't spin a bunch of complete circles at all. Not that it would even matter, Lauzon had next to no energy after the slam.

Edit: All of this is a lie, T&B turbo controllered me.

[T&B]

All glory to my lord and savior.

[DarthObvious]

Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick

Round 1: Swick dives in with a superman punch but misses, Davis clinches and attempts to wrestle Swick to the ground, but gets caught in a guillotine attempt. Davis breaks it and both men stand back up. Davis tries hitting a heavt kick to the body but misses, and Swick counters with his own kick to the head. Davis back off while Swick tries following up with a few punches, and then comes back to take Swick down. Swick get into rubber guard, but Davis breaks it and gets to half guard. Swick sweeps and winds up on top of Davis in half guard, but Davis quickly kicks Swick back to his feet and stands up. Both men brawl in close quarters, with Swick getting the better of Davis until Davis clinches again and wrestles Swick down into side control, but Swick rolls away immediately. Swick land some shot, and Davis clinches again, this time Swick breaks it before he can be taken down. Davis comes out of it landing two big punches and backs off, but he has his back up against the cage and Swick quickly closes the distance with a spinning back fist. Davis clinches again and Swick breaks it again, and this time avoids the same two big punches. Davis comes rushing at Swick ducking under a punch and taking him down, and this time rides Swick for a while eventually working his way to a mount, but Swick flips Davis back onto his back in guard, and then gets kicked away, both men standing again. Swick lands a few blows before Davis can clinch again, tries wrestling Swick down but gets caught in a guillotine again, this time Davis can not escape and is forced to tap out.

Winner via submission (Guillotine choke) at 3:30 in the 1st Round: Mike Swick

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHBnBFQqBzA

[JerkFaceFave]

All glory to my lord and savior.

I know a cheat when I see one! Zod can not be beat!

[General Zod]

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Todd Gilmore) TKOs Antoni Hardonk (Lucky Lacy) via referee stoppage at 2:00 of Round 2.

Round 1: Nog comes out striking. Hardonk counter grapples a punch and immediately goes for a slam, Nog counters it and lands in mount. From there Nog works him over to the head and body for most of the round. Hardonk eventually manages to get him off and survive the round, but he's taken a lot of abuse. 10-8 Nogueira.

Round 2: A little more striking this time before Hardonk takes it to the ground again. Nog pulls rubberguard and uses an omoplata to transition to Hardonk's back. From there he lands a few punches before sinking in a body triangle and taking Antoni's back. From here he lands a punch or two before transitioning to mount. Nog lands punches to the head and body until the referee steps in and calls the fight off.

Winner and STILL the PFC Heavyweight Champion. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Todd Gilmore)

Hardonk had a lot of bad luck in this fight, mostly because within the first 10 seconds he tried a slam that I countered and ended up in mount. From there I was able to really do a lot of damage early that made it really hard for him to do much else for the remainder of the fight.

Martin Kampmann (Todd Gilmore) submits Matt Hughes (Lucky Lacy) via triangle choke at 4:34 of Round 2

Round 1: Kampmann comes out looking to strike, lands a punch or kick here and there before Matt manages to grab a leg and take it to the ground. Kampmann nulllifies most of Matt's offense with the rubberguard. He's eventually able to transition to his back where Matt pulls guard. From here Kampmann lands elbows to the face and punches to the body. He transitions to half guard where he mixes up his strikes. Kampmann attempts to mount but Hughes reverses and is on top and lands some solid strikes before he attempts to transition and gets swept. Most of the fight was back and forth between guard and half guard and both fighters reversing one another and exchanging positions. 10-9 Kampmann

Round 2: Pretty similar to the first, both fighters going from guard to half guard, then when they attempt to mount they get reversed and it's the other fighters turn to ground and pound from these positions. At one point Kampmann gets the thai clinch but only lands one or two clean knees before Hughes is free. Hughes gets a single collar tie a couple of times and lands some knees and punches. Hughes is dominant with the takedowns in this round, Kampmann unable to stuff any of them. But once on the ground Kampmann again neutralizes him with the rubberguard. Eventually he's able to sweep to mount where he does a lot of good damage to the body. Hughes is able to brute force his way back into Kampmann's guard, but Kampmann immediately sinks in a triangle choke that gets the tap.

Winner and STILL the PFC Welterweight Champion Martin Kampmann (Todd Gilmore)

This fight was a lot closer since I didn't get lucky and reverse a slam into mount right away this time. Good fight.

[Lucky Lacy]

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Todd Gilmore) TKOs Antoni Hardonk (Lucky Lacy) via referee stoppage at 2:00 of Round 2.

Round 1: Nog comes out striking. Hardonk counter grapples a punch and immediately goes for a slam, Nog counters it and lands in mount. From there Nog works him over to the head and body for most of the round. Hardonk eventually manages to get him off and survive the round, but he's taken a lot of abuse. 10-8 Nogueira.

Round 2: A little more striking this time before Hardonk takes it to the ground again. Nog pulls rubberguard and uses an omoplata to transition to Hardonk's back. From there he lands a few punches before sinking in a body triangle and taking Antoni's back. From here he lands a punch or two before transitioning to mount. Nog lands punches to the head and body until the referee steps in and calls the fight off.

Winner and STILL the PFC Heavyweight Champion. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Todd Gilmore)

Hardonk had a lot of bad luck in this fight, mostly because within the first 10 seconds he tried a slam that I countered and ended up in mount. From there I was able to really do a lot of damage early that made it really hard for him to do much else for the remainder of the fight.

Martin Kampmann (Todd Gilmore) submits Matt Hughes (Lucky Lacy) via triangle choke at 4:34 of Round 2

Round 1: Kampmann comes out looking to strike, lands a punch or kick here and there before Matt manages to grab a leg and take it to the ground. Kampmann nulllifies most of Matt's offense with the rubberguard. He's eventually able to transition to his back where Matt pulls guard. From here Kampmann lands elbows to the face and punches to the body. He transitions to half guard where he mixes up his strikes. Kampmann attempts to mount but Hughes reverses and is on top and lands some solid strikes before he attempts to transition and gets swept. Most of the fight was back and forth between guard and half guard and both fighters reversing one another and exchanging positions. 10-9 Kampmann

Round 2: Pretty similar to the first, both fighters going from guard to half guard, then when they attempt to mount they get reversed and it's the other fighters turn to ground and pound from these positions. At one point Kampmann gets the thai clinch but only lands one or two clean knees before Hughes is free. Hughes gets a single collar tie a couple of times and lands some knees and punches. Hughes is dominant with the takedowns in this round, Kampmann unable to stuff any of them. But once on the ground Kampmann again neutralizes him with the rubberguard. Eventually he's able to sweep to mount where he does a lot of good damage to the body. Hughes is able to brute force his way back into Kampmann's guard, but Kampmann immediately sinks in a triangle choke that gets the tap.

Winner and STILL the PFC Welterweight Champion Martin Kampmann (Todd Gilmore)

This fight was a lot closer since I didn't get lucky and reverse a slam into mount right away this time. Good fight.

Damn good fights man. Todd is the best person I have faced in ufc thus far, however my only gripe is the submission attempts to mount from the north south position. Some people might consider it a glitch but it is blockable for a split second when you release the submission. Anyways, I should probably grab a bjj guy because wrestlers are toast when they're on there backs. See you next go round man.

[T&B]

I know a cheat when I see one! Zod can not be beat!

He beats me more often than not when we play, but I still beat him.

This just happened to be one of those times.

[General Zod]

Damn good fights man. Todd is the best person I have faced in ufc thus far, however my only gripe is the submission attempts to mount from the north south position. Some people might consider it a glitch but it is blockable for a split second when you release the submission. Anyways, I should probably grab a bjj guy because wrestlers are toast when they're on there backs. See you next go round man.

There's nothing exploitive about going for a sub and faking your opponent into spinning the stick, then while they are spinning you let go and quickly go for a transition. That's just smart tactics. If you know that that's what they are going to do you can still block or reverse their transition. The sub attempt is just to try to fake people out.

[AJ Kidd]

#1 contender fight:
Michael Bisping (AJ Kid) VS Wilson Gouveia (JerkFaceFave)

Hey man, I´ve just missed you two times now, tuesday by 2 min and thursday by 20 min, tonight I´ll be online but after 12am PST, and tomorrow I don´t think I can be online but sunday I´ll be all morning-afternoon until 3pm PST, hopefully we can get it done by then

[Lucky Lacy]

There's nothing exploitive about going for a sub and faking your opponent into spinning the stick, then while they are spinning you let go and quickly go for a transition. That's just smart tactics. If you know that that's what they are going to do you can still block or reverse their transition. The sub attempt is just to try to fake people out.

I feel what your saying but in essence, no fighter would do that in real life. Its like the submission glitch, if I keep faking the sub to psych out my opponent he's going to eventually tap from fatigue. If you keep faking a sub from north south you will get the mount.

[Satchmo Davis]

BWIGGZ, when do you want to fight? I can get it in tonight or sunday night around 11pm est.

[T&B]

I feel what your saying but in essence, no fighter would do that in real life.

...whaaat?

[General Zod]

I feel what your saying but in essence, no fighter would do that in real life. Its like the submission glitch, if I keep faking the sub to psych out my opponent he's going to eventually tap from fatigue. If you keep faking a sub from north south you will get the mount.

None of this makes sense at all. Fighters trick their opponents into thinking they are going for a submission, and then let go and try to sweep them or pass their guard all the time. It's no different than a superman punch which is just a leg kick feint to get the opponent thinking a low kick is coming only to follow it up with a punch, catching them off guard.

Going for a sub then trying to transition is not like the sub spamming exploit at all because it's blockable and reversable. It's a person's own fault if they get so focused on spinning or mashing that they are too slow to react to their opponent letting go of the sub and trying to transition on them.

By your logic if I throw 3 leg kicks and then land a high kick I glitched you. Which is retarded. There is nothing unfair about using misdirection to confuse an opponent. It's a part of any form of competition.

...whaaat?
That's what I said.

[Lucky Lacy]

None of this makes sense at all. Fighters trick their opponents into thinking they are going for a submission, and then let go and try to sweep them or pass their guard all the time. It's no different than a superman punch which is just a leg kick feint to get the opponent thinking a low kick is coming only to follow it up with a punch, catching them off guard.

Going for a sub then trying to transition is not like the sub spamming exploit at all because it's blockable and reversable. It's a person's own fault if they get so focused on spinning or mashing that they are too slow to react to their opponent letting go of the sub and trying to transition on them.

By your logic if I throw 3 leg kicks and then land a high kick I glitched you. Which is retarded. There is nothing unfair about using misdirection to confuse an opponent. It's a part of any form of competition.


That's what I said.

Look fam, if its cool with the league, its cool with me. I guess I found a new tactic as well. I'm going to have my view regardless. As far as the whole 3 leg kicks and a head kick, I never said that so don't insult my intelligence. I'm very familiar w/ mma too. You won the fight, I'm fine with that but some leagues do consider that as a glitch I'm sorry.

[B_Wigglez]

BWIGGZ, when do you want to fight? I can get it in tonight or sunday night around 11pm est.

sorry man didn't see your message till now ill be on for a lil bit now and then later tonight probably around 10pm PST until the morning..

[General Zod]

Look fam, if its cool with the league, its cool with me. I guess I found a new tactic as well. I'm going to have my view regardless. As far as the whole 3 leg kicks and a head kick, I never said that so don't insult my intelligence. I'm very familiar w/ mma too. You won the fight, I'm fine with that but some leagues do consider that as a glitch I'm sorry.

I highly doubt most of what I just read in this post. Any league that would consider that a glitch is run by morons because it's no different than punching someone in the face or body until they block the strikes and then transitioning while they are blocking since they can't block punches and block transitions at the same time.

[kingofk1ngs]

Maia wins by Tap Out via RNC with 5 seconds left in the 3rd round. The first two rounds were split and Grove was winning the last round so i really needed to get that finish to win. Good fight ShapelessHorror, I really thought the horn was gonna sound before your guy tapped.

[T&B]

Demian Maia Chokes out Kendall Grove with five seconds left in the third round.

1. Grove comes out looking to strike, Demian throws heavy hands. Grove catches a kick and takes Demian down. He throws several elbows and then attempts a kneebar. Demain shucks it off easily, and passes to sidemount. Kendall struggles to get out, but Demian advances to mount and throws timed, well-measured punches. Kendall is in trouble. Kendall is finally able to reverse him after taking much punishment, and stands to deliver a quick jab just as the round ends.

2. Demian comes out tentatively, and Grove looks to deliver some more strikes. He catches another lowkick and takes Demian down. More elbows. Most of this round is a back and forth grappling match, with neither men really getting anywhere, though Grove is more active with strikes. Grove escapes Demain's guard and stands. He attempts to engage in close-quarters striking, but Demain throws several heavy hooks. It goes to the ground again, this time with Kendall on his back, but he manages to transition to back mount from rubber guard, and throws a hard knee and several punches as the round ends.

3. Demian is tentative once again, keeping his distance from grove who throws kicks and body punches. Demian counters with a hook to the head and a knee to the legs. Grove gets the thai clinch and lands about three or four knees before Maia is able to escape. Demian goes for another hook/knee combo and Grove catches it. Grove attempts more ground and pound from inside Demain's guard, but it's mostly neutralized. Demian gets the rubber guard, he gets mount. Grove quickly spins out of it, but gives Demian his back. Demian immediately goes for the choke, and Kendall can't hold on long enough for the bell to sound.

I can't honestly say who would've actually got the W had it gone to the scorecards. I think I was more active, but King certainly got more advantageous positions, and he did a lot of damage.

[Dragon]

PFC 11: Bedlam

Undercard:

Fabricio Werdum (Govano) VS Andrei Arlovski (Jonb95825)
Houston Alexander (Govano) VS Rich Franklin (CThrash13)
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I will be online today in the night, after 11 pm PST, or tomorrow sunday all the morning until 2 pm PST. so if we can catch up.. lets do this...

ctrash13 i send FR to xbox via pc....hope we can fight soon...

[Dragon]

I highly doubt most of what I just read in this post. Any league that would consider that a glitch is run by morons because it's no different than punching someone in the face or body until they block the strikes and then transitioning while they are blocking since they can't block punches and block transitions at the same time.

I just trowing my two cents:

the sub-attempt and then release, by his one is not an exploit, is playing smart, because you can jump those R-sticker huggers and try to faint your opponent with a quick transition.
BUT if you go for the sub/release-transitioning, more than 2 times is an exploit..period.. everybody can say that if is in the game, you can do it..(ala quiting online)but everybody hows a sportsmanship guy and a player, and trying to be competitive and overall trying to having fun..doing this is a cheap way to depleted the opponent stamina..and for it an cheap/non class act.

Like Jerk said if someone is doing this, is out of the league. If someone try to accused someone on doing this, just do it.

[JerkFaceFave]

Michael Bisping (AJ Kid) VS Wilson Gouveia (JerkFaceFave)

Gouveia gets by on the razor edge decision 29-28 in an even battle. My first title shot! (I hope I dont choke)

[Thrash13]

Dragon, I'll be back online pretty late tonight (11 or 12 Central Time). If we can't get our fight in, we can hopefully move it to PFC 13 or something. Sorry man, I was looking for posts under Govano instead of your actual username. :/

[ballhawkdawk]

Justin McCully def. Mirko CroCop via knee bar with 1 second to go in round 2.

[Satchmo Davis]

bwiggz, I guess I missed you, but I saw you wanted to drop Huerta anyway... so what's going on with this fight.

Forfeit or what?

[quiknick]

hey jerkface i am having trouble getting a ahold of BIGG10DOGG were never on at the same time and he hasnt sent me a meassge of when he is able to play so ill try to c if hes on tonight.

[B_Wigglez]

bwiggz, I guess I missed you, but I saw you wanted to drop Huerta anyway... so what's going on with this fight.

Forfeit or what?

Well is was on last night till like 1030PM and then this morning at 10AM but we keep missing eachother.. As for Huerta if I get Rampage then he will be dropped if not then I still rock on with him, just have to wait and see what Jerkface says..

[JerkFaceFave]

My Boss is out sick today so I will have to pull a double. I will have to update league stuff and PFC 12 tomorrow. As such, it will be left open for one more day.

[h23p21]

hey jerkface i am having trouble getting a ahold of BIGG10DOGG were never on at the same time and he hasnt sent me a meassge of when he is able to play so ill try to c if hes on tonight.

WOW... It would have been nice if you had sent me a message, instead of waiting for me to send you a message. I overlooked this fight on the card and didn't know we had a match.

I'll be on tonight after 12pm est. Next time, can you shoot me a PM or XBL message before posting to the admin?

[Dragon]

Dragon, I'll be back online pretty late tonight (11 or 12 Central Time). If we can't get our fight in, we can hopefully move it to PFC 13 or something. Sorry man, I was looking for posts under Govano instead of your actual username. :/

lol, about the nick stuff..

mmm, for the time, i think is wanna be impossible to make it, cause i work until 11pm on PST, so is too late for you...if jerk want can move it for PFC13, cause i only in the mornings on mondays,wednesday and sundays, and all other days after 11 pm PST..



for my other fight:
Fabricio Werdum (Govano) VS Andrei Arlovski (Jonb95825)

Fabricio won via TKO on the 2nd round.

[Satchmo Davis]

Well is was on last night till like 1030PM and then this morning at 10AM but we keep missing eachother.. As for Huerta if I get Rampage then he will be dropped if not then I still rock on with him, just have to wait and see what Jerkface says..

I will be on tonight around 11:30est. I should be available for a while after that.

[B_Wigglez]

I will be on tonight around 11:30est. I should be available for a while after that.

Ill leave work early to get home around 9pmish PST so i wont keep you up that late but see you then..

[ballhawkdawk]

Nate Marquardt def. Dan Henderson via KO from mount in the 3rd round
First round Marquardt had a few slams. Hendo held solid position on top for a couple minutes and landed some solid shots.
Second round Lots of grind-you-out type GNP from Marquardt
Third round Not long into the round Marquardt established full mount and got the KO

good fight Sooner

[h23p21]

Jerk -- I got on @ 12pm and waited until 4am est but could not get this fight with EdNick30 in. Can we push this to PFC 12?

[Satchmo Davis]

Tyson Griffin (Satchmo Davis) vs Roger Huerta (Bwiggz)

Round 1
Both fighters come out looking to strike. Huerta lands a leg kick, then catches some strong jabs and hooks from Griffin. Huerta grabs an attempted hook by Griffin and clinches him. Griffin advances to Over/Under hooks, from which Huerta attempts to slam. The attempt fails and Griffin lands on top of Huerta in side control. Huerta attempts a few transitions which Griffin blocks. Griffin transitions to full mount where he begins to pummel Huerta with strong right hands, while blocking transition attempts. Huerta grabs Griffins hand, bringing the two together, but Griffin is able to get free and regain full mount. Griffin lands two more big hooks, which rocks Huerta, and then lands one more to end the fight.

Winner: Tyson Griffin (Satchmo Davis) by KO at 1:47 of Round 1.