Flash Forward

[MadSkillzz]

Did anybody watch the season premier of this?

I kept on seeing trailers and thought it was interesting so I decided to watch it.

I actually liked it. What about you guys?

[JBourne90]

Meant to but forgot it was on tonight. I'm sure it'll be on Hulu or ABC.com tomorrow so I'll just watch it then

[Tactical777]

Meant to but forgot it was on tonight. I'm sure it'll be on Hulu or ABC.com tomorrow so I'll just watch it then

Same.

[Hombre]

I thought it was really good...it's really refreshing to see a new TV show with a great story, great writing, and good actors. Makes for an enjoyable hour of watching.

Best new show of the year.

[JBourne90]

Just watched it and thought it was pretty good. A lot of it was shown in the previews and stuff though, so I can't wait for next week's episode.

[maddenforlife]

That show was intense. Definately gonna be watching this show every thursday.

[Fred]

supposed to be replayed tonight. I'll catch it then

[WWOFTBBNR]

I thought it was good...It tried so hard to be LOST for the first 10 minutes, but when it quit doing that it was good. It's interesting how they've adapted elements from the book, even though they've totally changed the setting and some of the major plot points.

[pastapadre]

I thought it was really good...it's really refreshing to see a new TV show with a great story, great writing, and good actors. Makes for an enjoyable hour of watching.

Best new show of the year.

Yeah in terms of new shows I really like FlashForward as well as Glee and Modern Family

I thought it was good...It tried so hard to be LOST for the first 10 minutes, but when it quit doing that it was good. It's interesting how they've adapted elements from the book, even though they've totally changed the setting and some of the major plot points.

There is going to be a Lost feel going forward I suspect. Reading up on the show they've stated just because we've seen parts of a flash that doesn't mean we've seen the whole thing. We'll learn more as we go.

The thing is they've charted out five seasons worth of storylines. So they know where the show is going if viewers stick with it. And they've learned some lessons from Lost apparently...not going to drag the answers out forever.

[WWOFTBBNR]

Apparently Goyer sold the show on a 5 year plan. Still, if they're going to try to be like LOST, they need to know why LOST is good. It isn't for the mysteries or the crazy stuff (and that stuff is awesome), but it's the characters. When you're writing an ensemble drama like LOST or FlashForward you have to have characters that people will remember. I can only name one character from FF after the pilot.

LOST has also known where it was going from the beginning, they just didn't get the end date support from the outset. Once they set the end date they knew how many episodes they had to tell their story. If FF tries to be LOST it will fail, because it can't be. If it settles into it's own story telling niche it could be very succesful.

[Fred]

Just got done watching the show after DVRing it earlier tonight. i thought it was great. I think the story/plot is great. Imagine how you'd change your life you had a flash forward glimpse into your future. I wonder if they are able to chagne their future because of it.

I'm wondering what the hell that was at the end? Are there supposed to be aliens or something on this show?

[WWOFTBBNR]

I'm not sure if anyone has read the book - but they've pretty much transferred the book over to the show. It's a different setting, but a lot of the flashes are similar.

[pastapadre]

Just got done watching the show after DVRing it earlier tonight. i thought it was great. I think the story/plot is great. Imagine how you'd change your life you had a flash forward glimpse into your future. I wonder if they are able to chagne their future because of it.

I'm wondering what the hell that was at the end? Are there supposed to be aliens or something on this show?

I haven't read the book so I'm not sure, but I don't think its going to be anything like that. Just someone who, for whatever reason, didn't have a flash. What I couldn't figure out from that footage they had was whether the person was freaked out by what was going on. Seemed like they were kinda calm like they expected it, or were in disbelief like WTF is going on.

[WWOFTBBNR]

Yeah, there's no aliens. The show is set in a completely different place (the book is about physicists in Switzerland/France), but they translated a lot of the aspects of the flashes to new characters. Also, Lloyd Simcoe is the main character of the book. They reused his name, but that's pretty much it, it seems.

[Fred]

alright good. i thought aliens would be lame and ruin the story. I'm not sure what to figure out about that person in the end. Like pasta said it seemed kind of calm. almost like if he had planned it

[CNStars17]

i think the same person who was walking thru the stadium at the end had to do with the people in masks after the FBI guy in his office...


also, after the first episode of LOST the only character we really met was Jack, and we were slowly introduced to the other people throughout season 1.

Also how similar to LOST was the "kind of ending" the episode with the fbi agent and his daughter on the swing, and then theres 3 minutes left for a twist...and the episode ends

btw, im only on season 4 of lost...which blows ass cuz i want to catch up but i don't have the time, and now with this show...fuck

[MadSkillzz]

More drama in episode 2 than i thought there would be. There were a lot of high points though. I think episode 3 will really lead us in more when that guy explains why it happened.

[Hombre]

Wow...I love this show. Tonight's episode was much better than I thought it'd be....D Gibbons is a bad man.

[CNStars17]

damn...i missed it i was at work...make sure to utalize spoilers

ill hulu tomorrow

[WWOFTBBNR]

I thought this episode was kind of a backslide. It's like they have a couple of great ideas that will fill up about 15-20 minutes, but then have 20 more minutes to fill up. They are good at the cliff hangers, and I'm hoping they can pay them off.

As far as this being like LOST, I think the marketing campaign is working on you too much. First, the "cliff hanger" ending you speak off has been around for a LONG time, long before LOST. Second, LOST is a show about people first, FlashForward seems to want to have the event take the lead. There are SO many other reasons that I don't want to get into, but it seems that FlashForward wants really bad to be LOST (maybe at the networks urging) but never will be because the writers don't seem to know what makes LOST tick.

You can check out my review of the latest episode here:
http://crazybeardedjack.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/flashforward-white-to-play/

[Hombre]

I thought this episode was kind of a backslide. It's like they have a couple of great ideas that will fill up about 15-20 minutes, but then have 20 more minutes to fill up. They are good at the cliff hangers, and I'm hoping they can pay them off.

As far as this being like LOST, I think the marketing campaign is working on you too much. First, the "cliff hanger" ending you speak off has been around for a LONG time, long before LOST. Second, LOST is a show about people first, FlashForward seems to want to have the event take the lead. There are SO many other reasons that I don't want to get into, but it seems that FlashForward wants really bad to be LOST (maybe at the networks urging) but never will be because the writers don't seem to know what makes LOST tick.

You can check out my review of the latest episode here:
http://crazybeardedjack.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/flashforward-white-to-play/

lol...it's been 2 episodes, relax...it's not LOST...give it a chance to be it's own show before you start comparing it.

[WWOFTBBNR]

I wasn't the one comparing it in the first place.

And if you've seen ANY of the promos for it, they all open with "From the network that brought you LOST."

So direct that statement at the ABC Marketing Department and pretty much every TV critic in the country.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

I have trouble with fiction that deals with time...it worries me because it's rarely handled in a tidy way.

I don't know yet, and have only watched this recent episode, but it would seem like there is no 'changing' happening. People saw their flashes, and reacted naturally--emotionally. Which ends up triggering said events anyway.

I won't put it in spoilers, because I don't know for sure, but for example, the guy and his wife's issues because of her flash.


I mean, it's a telegraphing sequence--I knew it before the little wrinkle of his kid was introduced. The mans distrust will push her into the arms of the boy's father. At least, that's what I saw before the events...and then once the girl said she saw that boy in her flash, they will have to interact, meaning the mom and the boy's dad will too. Then the woman's husband is a drinker and is pushing her away...will obvuiously get wrapped up into figuring the event out...just seems too obvious.



I don't know what the writers belief in time is either. That is a big reason I am conflicted. Do they believe time can be altered? If so, is it a Back to the Future/Terminator thing, where alternate dimensions happen? If not, how do you explain it?

If not, then the whole season is basically a big tease, with everybody running around trying to change things not realizing that their seeing the future was a past event meant to happen, forcing the vision to happen as it did.

...there was a couple signs that they believe the future is alterable, so I will keep watching. But the acting aside from Sulu and the boss was slightly overdone, and the intensity seemed canned aside form a couple conversations. Not bad though.

[WWOFTBBNR]

It's funny that you bring up those issues, Masta, because they are really the main themes of the book; Whether people will accept their futures as fate, or if they will try to change them.

And your last paragraph is a great description of how I feel as well.

[MaSTA SoLIDUS]

but it's an esoteric question, I mean in actuality, not what they think the future they saw means.

Are they toiling uselessly, or are they actually capable of changing their future.

Like the news that Sulu got at the end. That inherently means, knowing it, that he's going to attempt to alter it. But is his attempt to alter it the reason the future happens as it did anyway? Or can he actually alter it? And does his actions, based on this new knowledge, impact other people's futures one way or another (meaning, his event would have made the future what it was, and if he were able to change it, that would trigger a domino effect of changes)?

I guess I don't take for granted that the future that they saw was a result of not seeing this vision...I operate on a possibility that the future they saw happened after seeing the vision, as if it were an actual future rather than an alternate one. Not that the future they saw happened without the flashes, but that it happened after the flashes...which opens a can of worms I generally struggle with understanding.

I have trouble focusing in time stoires because of stuff like this, and Terminator was the only one that was fairly fleshed out, and that's only because there was a comic series that did a decent job of filling in some gaps and the Sara Connor Chronicles added a new perspective on the why for a lot of events.

I don't have that here, so I'm kinda in the dark.

[WWOFTBBNR]

Like the news that Sulu got at the end. That inherently means, knowing it, that he's going to attempt to alter it. But is his attempt to alter it the reason the future happens as it did anyway? Or can he actually alter it? And does his actions, based on this new knowledge, impact other people's futures one way or another (meaning, his event would have made the future what it was, and if he were able to change it, that would trigger a domino effect of changes)?

I guess I don't take for granted that the future that they saw was a result of not seeing this vision...I operate on a possibility that the future they saw happened after seeing the vision, as if it were an actual future rather than an alternate one. Not that the future they saw happened without the flashes, but that it happened after the flashes...which opens a can of worms I generally struggle with understanding.

I'm sorry, but I have default to my obsession and invoke LOST here. Basically the questions and view you're taking on time travel/time disparity was the theme of last season of LOST. I don't want to spoil it anymore than that, but if it's something you're interested and you don't watch LOST, give it a shot. Anyone I can turn on to the amazing story that LOST presents makes me happy.

As far as FlashForward, I have a hard time discussing a lot of the main themes because I've read the book and know many of the answers to the questions you're asking. Again, I don't want to spoil anything, but I will say that Sulu/Harold/Agent Noh in the show FlashForward is a direct reference to Theo Procopides in the book, and pretty close to all of the questions you're asking are addressed in the book.

[CNStars17]

but how about the main character burning the bracelet? is his daughter just gonna make another and then get kidnapped by d. gibbins thus forcing him to wear it?

[MadSkillzz]

Interesting 3rd episode. Im really getting hooked on this

I don't get that last scene though. I knew it had to do with the crows but was it now or back in 1991?

[Hombre]

Interesting 3rd episode. Im really getting hooked on this

I don't get that last scene though. I knew it had to do with the crows but was it now or back in 1991?

I'm pretty sure it was now...but I'm wondering what that thing in the sky was. Looked like a crazy cloud/spaceship...lol

I love this show though.

[JBourne90]

I'm pretty sure it was now...but I'm wondering what that thing in the sky was. Looked like a crazy cloud/spaceship...lol

I love this show though.

It was 91. They briefly showed it in the bottom left corner of the screen where they showed where it was.

I think the smoke thing was some kind of nerve gas or whatever that knocks the people out. Who knows though.

[WWOFTBBNR]

It was a cloud that was shaped like a bird, not any kind of gas. It went along with the bird theme originated by the crows.

[CNStars17]

nobody is asking about the giant black post sticking out of the ground? everyone is worried about the cloud behind it, lol

[WWOFTBBNR]

Yeah, that tower has me wondering, that's for sure.

[Hombre]

I thought last night's episode was pretty weak...the ending was good, with the revelation and everything.

Hopefully next week's epi is better.

[MadSkillzz]

The big point of this episode was how the Flash Forwards are starting to affect everyones thinking and judgment.

[CNStars17]

show gets worse every week


ill give it one more episode and im done

[WWOFTBBNR]

What?

The most recent episode was a vast improvement over the previous (and nowhere near as awful as the second episode). There was some great, stylish action scenes. The opening was extremely well done, and they actually found a way to get a Bjork song on TV. Not to mention they still know how to do a cliff hanger well. It's not great, but if Goyer and Braga can keep things moving in the direction of "Black Swan" I think things will get much better.

[MadSkillzz]

Good episode. Lot of big points.

But I wish they would have left the ending as a cliff hanger like in the beginning instead of showing the guys escaping the car and shooting back.

[Bates]

Decent episode. Obviously, the President dies or loses office somehow to Clemente.

Next episode looks to be potentially boring. I say that b/c it appears to be more character-focused (outside of finally introducing Dominic Monoghan's character) than over-arching plot-focused, with the drinking problem re-occurrence coming out and the lover showing up, surprisingly, at a party.

[Hombre]

tonight's epi was vastly better than last weeks....

[HAZE]

Damn, you MFers are gonna have me watching every show on TV, lol.

[CNStars17]

great episode last night...i like how it opened, and finished

[WWOFTBBNR]

Last night's episode was the high point for the series so far I thought. It's still struggling to find it's identity, but the writers are starting to figure out what works and what doesn't.

Check out my review here: http://crazybeardedjack.wordpress.com/

[rainmanmorris]

Last night's episode was the high point for the series so far I thought. It's still struggling to find it's identity, but the writers are starting to figure out what works and what doesn't.

Check out my review here: http://crazybeardedjack.wordpress.com/

why waste you time writing your review when everybody saw it.. thats like writing a review about air.. or water.... or bees.. really nobody gives a damn about what you think about a show that most people in this forum already watched

[Bates]

why waste you time writing your review when everybody saw it.. thats like writing a review about air.. or water.... or bees.. really nobody gives a damn about what you think about a show that most people in this forum already watched

:tostfu:

[CNStars17]

why waste you time writing your review when everybody saw it.. thats like writing a review about air.. or water.... or bees.. really nobody gives a damn about what you think about a show that most people in this forum already watched

you sir, are fucking retarded

[tristate killa]

Episode was alright but this show wouldve been better if they made it a movie it just seems like it gonna drag on and on and on.

[HAZE]

After I went and DL'ed all 5 episodes, I realized that they're all on Hulu.

I'll watch them sometime this week.

[MadSkillzz]

After I went and DL'ed all 5 episodes, I realized that they're all on Hulu.


:shakehead:

[Hombre]

now why and the fuck would they go and...

kill the Famous Jett Jackson off?

One of the better episodes though.

[MadSkillzz]

I never understood why Al killed himself (can someone spoil that), and whos Celia?

If someone could answer that, it would help out a lot.

Lol the episode was good, but there was so much story to follow that it was an overload.

[myles04]

I never understood why Al killed himself (can someone spoil that), and whos Celia?

If someone could answer that, it would help out a lot.

Lol the episode was good, but there was so much story to follow that it was an overload.

i was a little confused but i talked it over with my brother and i think i get it, Al somehow gets Celia killed in the future and her children put in foster homes. With him dying hes changed the future since he cant be there now to affect Celia. its really a game changer now that we know the future isn't set and Harold won't necessarily die now(for the sake of Gabrielle Union being single again i hope he does die)

[MadSkillzz]

Lol. You called him Harold

[JBourne90]

Enjoyed this episode. Disappointed they killed Jett Jackson but I like how we have no way of knowing if the future is set. We've seen evidence of both the flash forwards being one possible future or the only one for you. Next week looks to feature more Dominic Monaghan, so I'm looking forward to that.

[MadSkillzz]

This was headed to the 3rd page so ill bump it

[MadSkillzz]

So tonights episode was the last of the year.

Looks like were gonna have to wait til March 2010

[RaiderNdaBlood]

I'll still watch when it comes on due to the wife being enamored with this show but these last few episodes are a sham compared to how it began.