All-Pro Football 2K8 trailer

by pastapadre
Posted June 9th, 2007 at 1:49 am

2K Sports has released the first official trailer for All-Pro Football 2K8. Notes on the trailer follow below it.

What I took from this trailer:

-The framerate didn’t seem consistent. Is the game going to be locked in at 60fps? We haven’t heard yes or no and that could be worrysome.

-A real 2K5ish look and feel to it. That isn’t necessarily bad although it seems that a lot was borrowed from a three year old game.

-The player models just don’t seem right, especially how skinny they all are. The players are lacking a real sense of bulk.

-I liked the glimpses of the weather and how that may affect the play on the field. Adjusting your strategy due to weather conditions is something that has never really been necessary. Other than the increased liklihood of a fumble it has never mattered. If the weather really impacts how you play the game that would be a cool addition.

-Some of the catch animations looked nice, the throwing animations looked a little awkward.

-It seems there is a real difference in quality between the cut scenes and actual gameplay. We saw this with the screenshots that have been released. The ones that came from cut scenes were comparable to Madden yet the ones of actual gameplay were very disappointing. In this video the looks at cut scenes such as the TD celebration and the taunting actions were much better than the actual replay footage from gameplay.

-They couldn’t find a better song to use?

Overall a pretty unimpressive video (at least in the sense that it seems unlikely this would sway people towards purchasing it) and the early reaction out there seems to mirror my own. This really is not much of a surprise because I had spoken to a few who had attended the first media event for the game which included a trailer viewing and had walked away from it lacking any sense of enthusiasm for what they had seen.

Still the game shouldn’t be judged based on video from replays and cut scenes. We only have what we have to go on though. That is now disappointing screens, a feature list, and now this mediocre trailer. It is hard to imagine that an amazing game is going to follow such lackluster reveals.

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PastaisaJoke

Lol padre you just dont quit. everything 2k does is disappointing, I hate for you to try and tell me everything EA does cant be faulted. NBA Live 07 on the 360 is well lets just say, 10 players on teh court with Parkisons disease twitching up the court, combined with Matrix mode, and 2 fram animations from foulline to dunk at the rim.

you know what disappointing… Why isnt Madden in Madden?

dear madden part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2D–4p0msag

dear madden part 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ol0iP_k5lvY

Yet youre so unbiased..man you and Fred aka Grimmace, need to lay off the french fries..
PastaisaJoke

Lol padre you just dont quit. everything 2k does is disappointing, I hate for you to try and tell me everything EA does cant be faulted. NBA Live 07 on the 360 is well lets just say, 10 players on teh court with Parkisons disease twitching up the court, combined with Matrix mode, and 2 fram animations from foulline to dunk at the rim.

you know what disappointing… Why isnt Madden in Madden?

dear madden part 1
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2D–4p0msag

dear madden part 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ol0iP_k5lvY

Yet youre so unbiased..man you and Fred aka Grimmace, need to lay off the french fries..
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

I think its a sign of a bit of despiration to have to point out the faults of other games in order to justify the faults of the one being discussed.

I’ve been positive on 2K8 when appropriate, and been negative when appropriate. It just so happens that this game thus far has been heavier on one side than the other.

I don’t think many people would argue for Madden’s presentation being great or NBA Live being perfect. That doesn’t have anything to do with how I will look at APF though.

We have the screenshots, an idea of the features (but few details), and this video. Thats ALL we can base thoughts on right now. If you feel those things have been good theres nothing wrong with that. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

I think its a sign of a bit of despiration to have to point out the faults of other games in order to justify the faults of the one being discussed.

I’ve been positive on 2K8 when appropriate, and been negative when appropriate. It just so happens that this game thus far has been heavier on one side than the other.

I don’t think many people would argue for Madden’s presentation being great or NBA Live being perfect. That doesn’t have anything to do with how I will look at APF though.

We have the screenshots, an idea of the features (but few details), and this video. Thats ALL we can base thoughts on right now. If you feel those things have been good theres nothing wrong with that. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on that.
PastaisaJoke

LOl you still cant be objective… you fault APF for having the team ‘indians’ then criticize them for that along the lines of maybe it was the guy who got OJ,but dont feel “redskins’ is offesive. Please just let the world know youre a fanboy, because you sure as hell cant find anyfault in anything EA releases. You dislike OJ being in the game, but dont say 1 word about Ray Lewis and his manslaughter issues, way to turn the cheek..

then you compare picts of Rice to ET…lol guy please give it up…
PastaisaJoke

LOl you still cant be objective… you fault APF for having the team ‘indians’ then criticize them for that along the lines of maybe it was the guy who got OJ,but dont feel “redskins’ is offesive. Please just let the world know youre a fanboy, because you sure as hell cant find anyfault in anything EA releases. You dislike OJ being in the game, but dont say 1 word about Ray Lewis and his manslaughter issues, way to turn the cheek..

then you compare picts of Rice to ET…lol guy please give it up…
PastaisaJoke

and that not to say that apr doesnt have issues, but man the fanboy in you is obvious..
PastaisaJoke

and that not to say that apr doesnt have issues, but man the fanboy in you is obvious..
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Theres a big difference between a league that has a history than one that was just put together. Team names like the Redskins have been around since 1932. If an expansion team came into the league now I guarantee they wouldn’t name them the Redskins, Indians, ect

The point that I have made is that 2K had the freedom to shape the game in any way they wanted to. So they consciously said “Lets name the team the Indians and put tepees on the field” when they could’ve done something different. They sought out OJ when there was no reason that he had to be in the game. Thats where the difference lies that these were decisions that they had no obligation to.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

Theres a big difference between a league that has a history than one that was just put together. Team names like the Redskins have been around since 1932. If an expansion team came into the league now I guarantee they wouldn’t name them the Redskins, Indians, ect

The point that I have made is that 2K had the freedom to shape the game in any way they wanted to. So they consciously said “Lets name the team the Indians and put tepees on the field” when they could’ve done something different. They sought out OJ when there was no reason that he had to be in the game. Thats where the difference lies that these were decisions that they had no obligation to.
PastaisaJoke

“They sought out OJ when there was no reason that he had to be in the game.”

What reason is that?
PastaisaJoke

“They sought out OJ when there was no reason that he had to be in the game.”

What reason is that?
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Did OJ NEED to be in the game for it to work with legends? No…they could’ve signed someone else in his place.

Personally the OJ thing didn’t bother me that much. He was sought out and compensated when it wasnt necessary though. They could’ve avoided the discussion and creating the issue with those who didn’t like the decision. I can understand why some people would be upset by it.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

Did OJ NEED to be in the game for it to work with legends? No…they could’ve signed someone else in his place.

Personally the OJ thing didn’t bother me that much. He was sought out and compensated when it wasnt necessary though. They could’ve avoided the discussion and creating the issue with those who didn’t like the decision. I can understand why some people would be upset by it.
PastaisaJoke

Youre still not explainig the reason… youre side stepping… whats the reason? Ill ask again..
PastaisaJoke

Youre still not explainig the reason… youre side stepping… whats the reason? Ill ask again..
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Just for some more perspective.

Washington Redskins: 1932
Cleveland Indians: 1900
Atlanta Braves: 1971

Those names would never happen today but they’ve build a tradition behind them and because of that most don’t consider them offensive.

However creating a team now, with the name the Indians, tepees on the field, and who the hell knows what else will happen in that stadium, its hard for me to believe they would actually do that.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

Just for some more perspective.

Washington Redskins: 1932
Cleveland Indians: 1900
Atlanta Braves: 1971

Those names would never happen today but they’ve build a tradition behind them and because of that most don’t consider them offensive.

However creating a team now, with the name the Indians, tepees on the field, and who the hell knows what else will happen in that stadium, its hard for me to believe they would actually do that.
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

I’m not sure I understand your question. You’re asking what the reason is that he doesn’t need to be in the game? Its cause the game isn’t reliant on any specific individuals. The game didn’t need Dan Marino. If they weren’t able to sign him or felt he didn’t fit in the game they could’ve moved on and still made the game. The same is the case with OJ.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

I’m not sure I understand your question. You’re asking what the reason is that he doesn’t need to be in the game? Its cause the game isn’t reliant on any specific individuals. The game didn’t need Dan Marino. If they weren’t able to sign him or felt he didn’t fit in the game they could’ve moved on and still made the game. The same is the case with OJ.
PastaisaJoke

You said there was no reason for them to seek out OJ? YOu said they created an issue what issue?

“They couldve avoided the discussion and creating the issue with those who didnt like the decision.”

Isnt he a football player.. correct me if Im wrong here.
PastaisaJoke

You said there was no reason for them to seek out OJ? YOu said they created an issue what issue?

“They could�ve avoided the discussion and creating the issue with those who didn�t like the decision.”

Isnt he a football player.. correct me if Im wrong here.
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Right. My point is regardless of whether you or I were upset with the decision to include OJ in the game, there are people out there who did not like it and there is the potential for negative press on the issue.

I don’t think it is something that would’ve been unreasonable to expect. So they likely talked about it and decided they wanted to pay him to be in the game anyway.

Thats what I question is the thought process that went into it. I don’t think that the game is going to sell more copies because OJ is in it than it would if OJ wasn’t in it. But its possible it could turn some potential consumers off.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

Right. My point is regardless of whether you or I were upset with the decision to include OJ in the game, there are people out there who did not like it and there is the potential for negative press on the issue.

I don’t think it is something that would’ve been unreasonable to expect. So they likely talked about it and decided they wanted to pay him to be in the game anyway.

Thats what I question is the thought process that went into it. I don’t think that the game is going to sell more copies because OJ is in it than it would if OJ wasn’t in it. But its possible it could turn some potential consumers off.
igjoe

I am going to say this. I am a 2K fanboy. From what I read from pasta, I don’t feel like he’s trying to bash 2K. He’s just giving his opinion on the information that is out.

Even though I am biased on the game that I like, I have been really let down with what has been released about 2K8. I am not going to call it quits for the game because it’s really about gameplay and spending time with the game (which pasta has mentioned multiple times).

I didn’t write this to defend anyone, but I do want to say that, and I could be wrong… I never thought that this was a “hard news” site. Sure the news comes here, but it seems like to me, with pasta’s opinion thrown in with the news, people can start commenting easier… To me, straight up hard news lacks a community aspect.

And fyi, NO news organization can be completely objective. So if you are looking for objectivity, I’ll meet you at the end of the rainbow.
igjoe

I am going to say this. I am a 2K fanboy. From what I read from pasta, I don’t feel like he’s trying to bash 2K. He’s just giving his opinion on the information that is out.

Even though I am biased on the game that I like, I have been really let down with what has been released about 2K8. I am not going to call it quits for the game because it’s really about gameplay and spending time with the game (which pasta has mentioned multiple times).

I didn’t write this to defend anyone, but I do want to say that, and I could be wrong… I never thought that this was a “hard news” site. Sure the news comes here, but it seems like to me, with pasta’s opinion thrown in with the news, people can start commenting easier… To me, straight up hard news lacks a community aspect.

And fyi, NO news organization can be completely objective. So if you are looking for objectivity, I’ll meet you at the end of the rainbow.
http://www.pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Thanks.

I hope you do. Ultimately enjoying games is what its all about.

Right now all I can talk about for 2K is the trailer, screens, and sprinkling of details. So thats all I that can be discussed. Sure we could speculate about gameplay, but there is nothing to base opinions off yet.

And you’re exactly right summing it up. In the end when I write from my perspective its just that my perspective. Anyone is welcome to agree, or disagree. I appreciate the passion that some people have and as long as everyone is respectful the difference of opinions can be healthy.
http://www.pastapadre.com pastapadre

Thanks.

I hope you do. Ultimately enjoying games is what its all about.

Right now all I can talk about for 2K is the trailer, screens, and sprinkling of details. So thats all I that can be discussed. Sure we could speculate about gameplay, but there is nothing to base opinions off yet.

And you’re exactly right summing it up. In the end when I write from my perspective its just that my perspective. Anyone is welcome to agree, or disagree. I appreciate the passion that some people have and as long as everyone is respectful the difference of opinions can be healthy.
http://www.lupherarts.com/ Tlupher3

Okay, I wasn’t going to post anything but its turning into 2005 all over again. Constant complaining about 2k football and Madden just slips under the radar. If 2k’s models are to skinny then Maddens are way to huge. Jay Cutlers build looks like Terrell Owens’, Payton Manning is as ripped as Jerry Porter, and the list goes on and on. Yet you compare the 2k player models to Madden as if Maddens player models are the standard for a football game. When in fact they have been out of proportion and bulky since Madden 05.

Then you mention the animations from this trailer looked choppy? Again, I am assuming you must be comparing the animation to its only competition, which is Madden football.
Hello? Madden still isn’t running at 60fps and NFL 2k5 has better animations then Madden 07 ever did. So how can you rip on the animation in APF when if it were just a complete port from NFL2k5 it would have Madden beat? So I am confused, what are you comparing APF to exactly? Obviously not Madden!

I think before you start ripping on APF you need to watch what it’s up against one more time. A game with over sized player models, player faces that looked pissed off all the time, Presentation that is just horrid, repetitive cut scenes, and what the hell is with the pan shot of the D in the huddle after you pick every single play. Are you kidding me? Oh yeah and the game play sucks.

I’m not saying APF is going to be the best football game ever. But it doesn’t have to be with the garbage that is already out there. Throw some polish on NFL 2k5 and is blows your Madden out of the water.

So stop ripping on a game that doesn’t deserve to be ripped. What are you expecting out of this game. Like I said before it doesn’t have to be much to compete with Madden and you obviously love that game.

I mean seriously how can you rip on APF’s Animations, and Player Models. Madden has had problems in those two categories for years. Rip on the no NFL license or the no franchise mode. By ripping on the animation and graphics clearly shows me that Madden will and always will be your game and 2k sports has done it again. Scared you out of your pants so you have to do what ever you can to try to make this game not succeed. Sorry but they already have the rights to the All Pro players so your shit out of luck!!!!!! Good luck with your effort to buy the NBA. Because if you don’t do it soon the NBA is 2k’s!

PEACE
http://www.lupherarts.com Tlupher3

Okay, I wasn’t going to post anything but its turning into 2005 all over again. Constant complaining about 2k football and Madden just slips under the radar. If 2k’s models are to skinny then Maddens are way to huge. Jay Cutlers build looks like Terrell Owens’, Payton Manning is as ripped as Jerry Porter, and the list goes on and on. Yet you compare the 2k player models to Madden as if Maddens player models are the standard for a football game. When in fact they have been out of proportion and bulky since Madden 05.

Then you mention the animations from this trailer looked choppy? Again, I am assuming you must be comparing the animation to its only competition, which is Madden football.
Hello? Madden still isn’t running at 60fps and NFL 2k5 has better animations then Madden 07 ever did. So how can you rip on the animation in APF when if it were just a complete port from NFL2k5 it would have Madden beat? So I am confused, what are you comparing APF to exactly? Obviously not Madden!

I think before you start ripping on APF you need to watch what it’s up against one more time. A game with over sized player models, player faces that looked pissed off all the time, Presentation that is just horrid, repetitive cut scenes, and what the hell is with the pan shot of the D in the huddle after you pick every single play. Are you kidding me? Oh yeah and the game play sucks.

I’m not saying APF is going to be the best football game ever. But it doesn’t have to be with the garbage that is already out there. Throw some polish on NFL 2k5 and is blows your Madden out of the water.

So stop ripping on a game that doesn’t deserve to be ripped. What are you expecting out of this game. Like I said before it doesn’t have to be much to compete with Madden and you obviously love that game.

I mean seriously how can you rip on APF’s Animations, and Player Models. Madden has had problems in those two categories for years. Rip on the no NFL license or the no franchise mode. By ripping on the animation and graphics clearly shows me that Madden will and always will be your game and 2k sports has done it again. Scared you out of your pants so you have to do what ever you can to try to make this game not succeed. Sorry but they already have the rights to the All Pro players so your shit out of luck!!!!!! Good luck with your effort to buy the NBA. Because if you don’t do it soon the NBA is 2k’s!

PEACE