
After playing through the demo a few more times my impressions of it are below. I’ve also recorded the full demo played through two times and added those videos for everyone to watch.
Ever since the info on March Madness 08 started coming out they’ve been pushing the idea of how they slowed the game speed down. That concerned me heading into the demo because it almost felt as if they were conditioning people for it so that it wouldn’t be such a major shock in how different the game was going to flow. It turns out that those concerns were warranted.
The slow game speed really overshadows all the positives and seems to me to be at the root of most of the issues. Everything is really deliberate and heavy and the animations don’t blend as well as expected. That has led into a frustrating feeling while playing.
There are a lot of things that feel as if they tie into the overall slowness. The passing seems to be a little unresponsive, almost as if there is a slight delay after pressing the button. There is a delay then jump into it when attempting a pump fake and drive, crossover, or really any right stick move. There have been times where I’ve run towards the sideline and stopped/cut back and because of the slowness it took me out of bounds. I don’t feel like I have the same control over my shots, with several instances where I was attempting to shoot a fadeaway or lean-in and it the player just went straight up or actually went for something looking like a layup from a little too far out. There is no sense of a fast break or quickness when trying to drive to the basket. I can actually think through it as I’m trying to get past a defender: “I might have some room here to get to the hoop, okay I’m parallel with him now looks like I can get by him, alright I’m by him now I’ll lay it in.”
I still don’t understand the decision to use one button for two different commands. EA continues to put the alley-oop and direct pass on the same button (RB). So you still have to hold down the RB before the passing icons appear. If you try to do it too quick you’ll end up with accidental alley-oop attempts.
There are several aspects of the game that I really like. The post play is excellent, really no basketball game has come near the level that MM08 has in this area. Graphics and player models are done really well done. It is difficult to judge the crowd because the demo is based off a first half, but that will likely be another strength. The commentary is very good and the addition of Erin Andrews makes it even better. The rebounding has improved although it still looks a little unnatural at times. The net animations and dunking have both really gotten better. The player’s fatigue was really drained by the end of the half which is nice to see but hopefully it accounts for the length of the half and we don’t end up with dead tired players after five minutes on the court. Part of it probably has to do with the urge to turbo at all times.
While the March Madness team is seeking out feedback, a release date of December 11th means it is too late to see any major changes and probably even any minor tweaks. With the Q&A testing and certification process leading into the game going gold (which will likely happen sometime this week or next) the demo arrived too late for it to be used to take feedback and apply it to the game. That means that unfortunately it appears it will be mostly representative of the final product. Although a demo is from an earlier build (probably from a few weeks prior to the final one) something such as the game speed would’ve been unlikely to change.
The positivity surrounding the title with the focus on the Dynamic Post Play, Classic teams, and a price reduction to $50 may very well have been wiped out due to this disappointing demo. What it comes down to for me is that it has technical advancements over NBA Live 08 and March Madness 07 but simply isn’t as fun.
November 19, 2007 at 12:45 pm
Some things I like:
I like the spacing on the floor. Seems less jumbled
Atmosphere looks nice
Post Moves looked pretty good
Things I don’t like:
Same thing with NBA Live, it looks like dunks are the only time that players get above the rim.
Animations still look very jerky at times.
EA still doesn’t understand ball physics. Shots get to the rim too fast and passing looks frustrating
November 19, 2007 at 12:53 pm
i dont see how you guys say the atmosphere is good? For one the fans look flat out dumb doing all of the same motions that you only see at a chinese soccer game. Also there is no responsiveness to big plays. I start the game out with a 3 and theres barely any cheer. They cheered like i got a rebound.
November 19, 2007 at 2:12 pm
I like the game and what some people fail to realize is that the game settings are on the varsity level. The slowness of the game seem like a good idea because on NBA Live 08 the speed was to face to play online with and the games seem like a slam dunk contest every time you get the ball. What I don’t see any differences between last year version are the animation still seem jerky.
November 19, 2007 at 2:31 pm
dey gotta do sumthin wit da game speed befo dey even think bout releasn dis game another thang is dat i do not like da wey dey got da playas shootin da ball. like dey should have pg shootin da wey most pg shoot some wit sg sf pf c, and i agree da crowd is not as effective as mm 07,so rite now i like mm 07 way betta
November 19, 2007 at 2:31 pm
same*** wit….
November 19, 2007 at 3:01 pm
07 over 08? 07 sucks and this game sucks too but 07 was just terrible. The steals and TOs online did it for me.
November 19, 2007 at 3:09 pm
The crowd looks awful doing the same animation.. and usually ea give good graphics but bad gameplay but on this game they sucked on both.. this game feels so much like an arcade game.. if someone said that in this game you need fundamentals to win you must be a retard cause the game plays that bad.. and gosh where is the coach on the sideline and the rest of the bench.. and whats up with those signs in the crowd that no one seems to put down through the whole game.. and the b-ball feels so flat expecially when it hits the rim or backboard.. GREAT JOB EA FOR GIVING US MORE GARBAGE OUT IN STORES.. i think 2ksports need to teach you all a few lessons on making b-ball games
November 19, 2007 at 3:30 pm
I haven’t played the demo yet but I guaranteed it isn’t as slow and unresponsive as 2k. Seriously, I doubt its slower than 2k, thats the slowest and delay-ish you can get.
November 19, 2007 at 3:52 pm
You found the 2K version unresponsive and slow? Wow, I guess we both played different demos. I haven’t tried the MM demo, and probably won’t either. EA has burnt too many bridges with me in the past, and the only way I’ll give another basketball title of their’s a shot is if it is getting unanimous glowing reviews.
November 19, 2007 at 4:52 pm
I’ve had the chance to play the MM08 demo a few times and all I have to say is, wow. I mean, wow, this game is horrible. This was a Kentucky vs Louisville rivalry game and the atmosphere in the stadium just tanked. Dicky V would say that the crowd was going crazy and the crowd seemed very quiet. Jesus, I want the crowd to get into your head and i want the controller to rumble and make you call a timeout to settle it down. I want the craziness of college basketball! As far as the slow pace, what the hell? I get bored “running” a fast break. That should never happen. I went back to play some college hoops 2k7 to compare the game speeds and found that CH2k7 seemed so much faster and more fun. Also, I hate how the ball leaves the players’ hands when they take a shot. It’s not a natural animation at all. I could go on and on with some more negatives but I think I should be fair and give at least one positive. The post play was very good…and that’s it. Yep, CH2k8 gets my nod once again this year.
November 19, 2007 at 9:51 pm
This game is trashed compared to college hoops 2k8. Make sure yall pick up a copy alright!
November 19, 2007 at 11:23 pm
I’d be happy with MM 07, and just updated rosters instead of this.
Thumbs down for now.
November 20, 2007 at 11:48 am
seriously how do you like 07? At least 08 while slow has some strategy to it and I think there trying to make it more sim. 07 was run and gun one pass and dunk or a steal.
November 20, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Just to let you guys know, we took all of your feedback, (especially on game speed) and tweaked it a bit. The game still will not be run ‘n gun, but you will see a bit faster of a game.
November 20, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Wow… I’m “impressed”. This EA guy took all of this feedback from Nov. 19th, and had the game “tweaked” by 3pm on Nov 20th. That’s pretty darn amazing. Right…
Anyway… I thought the demo was pretty bad. I didn’t really notice the game being really slow, per se. But I actually thought the crowd looked better than the play on the court! The animations just seemed clunky and there was no fluid movement. The last basketball game I bought (CH2k5) still feels better than this one. I also don’t like playing from that sideline camera… but I’m sure (?) they have camera options in the full build.
December 22, 2007 at 9:47 pm
this game is almost as bad as 07. some of the worst animations ive seen the way the ball comes off the rim is truly awful i couldnt stand to watch the demo longer than a few seconds march madness 05 looks better than this crap