Is Spectator Mode Still Desired?

by pastapadre
Posted September 23rd, 2008 at 7:06 pm

Over the past few years the idea of a spectator mode has generated a lot of interest. Other games have implemented it successfully though it is difficult to gauge how much it is utilized. The thought with a sports game would be how it would allow you to watch important games between friends, watch league games which could even be for the purpose of scouting, and just jumping in other highly anticipated match-ups.

While playing NHL 09’s EASHL it hit me that the game already had a form of spectator mode built in. When penalized and in the box you just sit there and watch. Now it isn’t the best perspective to watch a full game from so they would need to add at least one different camera angle, but essentially the ability to sit in a game is already there. EA has stated that they are looking to get spectator mode built in to games such as Madden in the future. Knowing that NHL somewhat has it already can lead you to believe we are getting closer to that being realized.

With having the ability to upload video highlights and screenshots I’ve started to wonder if spectator mode is as desired as it used to be. Obviously most people get the game to play but there are occasions where just watching one as it is played could be appealing. Are there those of you out there who would spend time spectating games?

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  • nba2k
    September 24, 2008 at 7:22 am
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    [quote comment="38009"][quote comment="38003"][quote comment="37991"][quote comment="37988"][quote comment="37987"]i hope you guys are joking…you seriously enjoy watching other people play games? people are pretty easy to scout if you look at their career records and stats…and in online dynasties always look as the stats for their players and you will know who is going to get the ball before every game…you really want to waste your time watching someone else play when you could be playing and improving your game instead? wow…i’m absolutely dumbfounded…[/quote]

    Everyone has a fifferent way of doing stuff, dont knock em just cause they do it a different way then u do. Why do peeps think if someone doesnt do it the same way they do its wrong? Now thats absolutely dumbfounded..[/quote]

    first off all…learn proper english…second of all…learn to read…i wasn’t knocking on anyone…i was just asking whether or not people were actually serious…[/quote]

    Hey Jonathon… twist words as much as you like but you did, in fact, point the finger and laugh at those who do enjoy watching the occasional match-up. It’s sentences like… “i hope you guys are joking…you seriously enjoy watching other people play games?” and… “you really want to waste your time watching someone else play when you could be playing and improving your game instead? wow…”. If you cannot see the negative connotations in what you are saying then you are truly so self-centered that you cannot see the forrest through the trees.

    There are certainly other ways to scout a teams tendencies but the most enjoyment most would get out of a feature like this would to be able to watch a big match-up like conference championships, bowl games, etc. PGR did it nicely and shows that it can be done without affecting player gameplay.[/quote]

    forest is forest…not forrest…see…now that is an example of attacking the person..not the message…[/quote]

    Stop looking at the way peeps spell lol.. ur a geek huh?

  • STFU PLZ LOL
    September 24, 2008 at 7:24 am
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    [quote comment="38009"][quote comment="38003"][quote comment="37991"][quote comment="37988"][quote comment="37987"]i hope you guys are joking…you seriously enjoy watching other people play games? people are pretty easy to scout if you look at their career records and stats…and in online dynasties always look as the stats for their players and you will know who is going to get the ball before every game…you really want to waste your time watching someone else play when you could be playing and improving your game instead? wow…i’m absolutely dumbfounded…[/quote]

    Everyone has a fifferent way of doing stuff, dont knock em just cause they do it a different way then u do. Why do peeps think if someone doesnt do it the same way they do its wrong? Now thats absolutely dumbfounded..[/quote]

    first off all…learn proper english…second of all…learn to read…i wasn’t knocking on anyone…i was just asking whether or not people were actually serious…[/quote]

    Hey Jonathon… twist words as much as you like but you did, in fact, point the finger and laugh at those who do enjoy watching the occasional match-up. It’s sentences like… “i hope you guys are joking…you seriously enjoy watching other people play games?” and… “you really want to waste your time watching someone else play when you could be playing and improving your game instead? wow…”. If you cannot see the negative connotations in what you are saying then you are truly so self-centered that you cannot see the forrest through the trees.

    There are certainly other ways to scout a teams tendencies but the most enjoyment most would get out of a feature like this would to be able to watch a big match-up like conference championships, bowl games, etc. PGR did it nicely and shows that it can be done without affecting player gameplay.[/quote]

    forest is forest…not forrest…see…now that is an example of attacking the person..not the message…[/quote]

    Hey Jon can u make sure I spelled this correctly?

  • Reppintha405
    September 24, 2008 at 7:25 am
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    [quote comment="38010"][quote comment="38005"]haha…you guys are douchebags…i was asking if people were serious…because i was truly amazed by the reaction that this is a MUST HAVE feature…read the words as they are written…stop looking for deeper meaning…because you’re obviously not to gifted at it…[/quote]

    I guess we better not look for a deeper meaning for douchebags either huh lol.. U had to go that low? and were not gifted huh guess thats not knocking us either. Dude leave while u can before it gets ugly ur really starting to look like an ass. I dont even do or want this spectator thing is the funny thing haha. Grow up Jon and get a better word to say than douchbags unless of course ur gay i dunno.. holla another one bites the dust.. **rides off in the sunset**[/quote]

    LOL nba2k that is some funny stuff bro.

  • Jonathon
    September 24, 2008 at 7:26 am
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    [quote comment="38010"][quote comment="38005"]haha…you guys are douchebags…i was asking if people were serious…because i was truly amazed by the reaction that this is a MUST HAVE feature…read the words as they are written…stop looking for deeper meaning…because you’re obviously not to gifted at it…[/quote]

    I guess we better not look for a deeper meaning for douchebags either huh lol.. U had to go that low? and were not gifted huh guess thats not knocking us either. Dude leave while u can before it gets ugly ur really starting to look like an ass. I dont even do or want this spectator thing is the funny thing haha. Grow up Jon and get a better word to say than douchbags unless of course ur gay i dunno.. holla another one bites the dust.. **rides off in the sunset**[/quote]

    douchebag is pretty straight forward…glad that you caught on to that….

    just so you know…i get some satisfaction in knowing that you are wasting your time replying to my posts when i really could care less as to what you have to say….because i know what i meant to say and i dont really give a hoot whether or not you agree with me or not…

  • Jonathon
    September 24, 2008 at 7:28 am
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    haha…i do love that you sign on as various names in order to make yourself feel that you have some support…or you could just get out of the house and make friends, i suppose…but what fun would that be?

  • Ricky
    September 24, 2008 at 7:30 am
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    [quote comment="38008"]it is a question….do you not see the ending punctuation? is it wrong to question the seriousness of people that post online? because i am sure that most of you know that people on forums just say things to say things…i didn’t call anyone out by name…i didn’t make a statement telling people that they were ignorant to enjoy watching games on line…i was merely asking questions about the genuineness of their statements…it wouldn’t be the first time that people posted on a forum just to post and take up dead space…[/quote]

    The first word after a question mark is suppose to be capatalized, just thought i would add that in there genious. U only need one period to end a sentence not the … u have.

  • Jonathon
    September 24, 2008 at 7:32 am
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    … (its called an ellipsis) …

  • John Doh
    September 24, 2008 at 7:33 am
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    [quote comment="38008"]it is a question….do you not see the ending punctuation? is it wrong to question the seriousness of people that post online? because i am sure that most of you know that people on forums just say things to say things…i didn’t call anyone out by name…i didn’t make a statement telling people that they were ignorant to enjoy watching games on line…i was merely asking questions about the genuineness of their statements…it wouldn’t be the first time that people posted on a forum just to post and take up dead space…[/quote]

    You obviously know you are the douchebag here otherwise you wouldn’t feel so motivated to continue defending you “poor little innocent me” claims. Can’t you see that everyone on this comment thread thinks that you’re a cry baby teenager who made a B+ on his last spelling test? Your attempt at being an intellectual is failing you homeslice so please stop while you at least are only at the douchebag level.

  • nba2k
    September 24, 2008 at 7:33 am
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    [quote comment="38014"][quote comment="38010"][quote comment="38005"]haha…you guys are douchebags…i was asking if people were serious…because i was truly amazed by the reaction that this is a MUST HAVE feature…read the words as they are written…stop looking for deeper meaning…because you’re obviously not to gifted at it…[/quote]

    I guess we better not look for a deeper meaning for douchebags either huh lol.. U had to go that low? and were not gifted huh guess thats not knocking us either. Dude leave while u can before it gets ugly ur really starting to look like an ass. I dont even do or want this spectator thing is the funny thing haha. Grow up Jon and get a better word to say than douchbags unless of course ur gay i dunno.. holla another one bites the dust.. **rides off in the sunset**[/quote]

    douchebag is pretty straight forward…glad that you caught on to that….

    just so you know…i get some satisfaction in knowing that you are wasting your time replying to my posts when i really could care less as to what you have to say….because i know what i meant to say and i dont really give a hoot whether or not you agree with me or not…[/quote]

    I think im getting the satisfaction because I dont even care about the spectator mode I think u are wasting your time but who cares im done talking to you your ignorant.

  • nba2k
    September 24, 2008 at 7:36 am
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    [quote comment="38016"]haha…i do love that you sign on as various names in order to make yourself feel that you have some support…or you could just get out of the house and make friends, i suppose…but what fun would that be?[/quote]

    lmao this is the dumbest thing I have heard today so far. yeah all of these comments are me signing in as other people haha. Im only nba2k and Thunder in the forums and every forum I go to. Another stupid comment.

  • nba2k
    September 24, 2008 at 7:37 am
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    [quote comment="38019"][quote comment="38008"]it is a question….do you not see the ending punctuation? is it wrong to question the seriousness of people that post online? because i am sure that most of you know that people on forums just say things to say things…i didn’t call anyone out by name…i didn’t make a statement telling people that they were ignorant to enjoy watching games on line…i was merely asking questions about the genuineness of their statements…it wouldn’t be the first time that people posted on a forum just to post and take up dead space…[/quote]

    You obviously know you are the douchebag here otherwise you wouldn’t feel so motivated to continue defending you “poor little innocent me” claims. Can’t you see that everyone on this comment thread thinks that you’re a cry baby teenager who made a B+ on his last spelling test? Your attempt at being an intellectual is failing you homeslice so please stop while you at least are only at the douchebag level.[/quote]

    lol, he is gonna think I wrote this but nice post john doe. This is my last post in here I`m out.

  • Jonathon
    September 24, 2008 at 7:42 am
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    haha…wow…the thumbsuckers are out in droves today…one person has a dissenting opinion and questions the reasons why people think the way they do and they get bashed…when you guys decide you are finished with your group think mentality and want to have a real debate with the big boys let me know…its through dissension and questioning the norm that people truly move forward as a society by learning more about what people different from them think and making choices based on all sides of an argument…i thought forums were open for debate…meaning that i was within my right as a forum dweller to pose an question to other forum dwellers…i would like to thank AzureEffect, Keith, and Andy for answering my questions in a mature manner…and not feeling belittled or overwhelmed for being asked why they believe what they believe…and for the rest of you…i would like to thank you for wasting your time replying to me…

  • Lil chris
    September 24, 2008 at 7:50 am
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    Im gonna have to check this out. I didnt kno games had this online anymore. I think it would be good to put on Madden too to make sure u dont play cheesers or any online game for that matter. Good find Pasta

  • John Doh
    September 24, 2008 at 7:50 am
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    [quote comment="38023"]haha…wow…the thumbsuckers are out in droves today…one person has a dissenting opinion and questions the reasons why people think the way they do and they get bashed…when you guys decide you are finished with your group think mentality and want to have a real debate with the big boys let me know…its through dissension and questioning the norm that people truly move forward as a society by learning more about what people different from them think and making choices based on all sides of an argument…i thought forums were open for debate…meaning that i was within my right as a forum dweller to pose an question to other forum dwellers…i would like to thank AzureEffect, Keith, and Andy for answering my questions in a mature manner…and not feeling belittled or overwhelmed for being asked why they believe what they believe…and for the rest of you…i would like to thank you for wasting your time replying to me…[/quote]

    Blah… blah… blah…

    It is painfully obvious that you are claiming foul when you starting this whole mud-slinging session. Go eat a d!ck Jon Jon and get out of your house and play nice within society. I am willing to BET that you don’t speak to people in person like you type. I GUARANTEE that to be the case. You are probably a little wirey scronny fock who hides behind a keyboard and monitor. Go play your “World of Warcraft” and “Dungeons and Dragons” nerd-fest games and stop being a poser.

    This will surely drive a person like you crazy…. LAST WORD!!!!

  • bizkit
    September 24, 2008 at 7:58 am
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    u guys are brutal. i see what the one guy was sayin about watching games and it being a waste of time but he’s kind of a jerkoff about it. can’t we all just get along??

  • Timothy Daley
    September 24, 2008 at 9:29 am
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    Well Pasta

    I have got to tell you that I am a big supporter for a spectator mode in all of EA sports titles. You see all these players that round out the leaderboard but on most occasions you never get to see them play or understand WHY the are so great at the game. Having a spectator mode will not only remedy this but also will serve as a tool for scouting potential opponents as well as learning some of these players tricks of the trade.

    Some may think watching two people play is boring but I beg to differ on that notion. Sometimes you just want to kick back and watch a good game and not have to put in the work and thought of playing. When the games are good, its no different than watching real football on Sunday.

    Bottom line: Spectator mode absolutely needs to be incorporated in all EA sports titles.

  • impactent
    September 24, 2008 at 12:24 pm
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    it would be amazing if i could spectate online games and games of my friends online, im 100% for this!!!! EA and Take 2 I hope your listening!!

  • Darkheath
    September 24, 2008 at 12:46 pm
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    I’d definitely like to have this. As Tim Daley mentioned, it would be interesting to see some of those guys who have 300 wins at the top of the leaderboards play. Also… this would be great for the leagues so everyone could get together to watch the playoffs/superbowl. As far as voice goes, i’d like it to be where all the spectators could hear each other, with a menu option to turn guys off who are showing their asses. The two players should NOT hear the spectators… i wouldn’t think. I’d imagine that would be distracting. Again… maybe options are a good idea though.

  • Radie
    September 24, 2008 at 4:52 pm
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    Speaking of a different kind of spectator mode… When I was in college, a buddy and me had to live in an aprtment temporarily while our new aptartment was finished. Since we would only be there for about 3 months, we didnt get cable and all we had was a giant (projection) TV, a VCR and an XBox.

    After watching every movie we had about 50 times, we eventually just sat back and popped on a few sports games that we had and watched the computer play each other. Soon enough we were betting on the games and it was so much fun that I occasionally still do that today.

  • ferris
    September 24, 2008 at 5:04 pm
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    i would love this feature for the same reasons other people were adding. it would be a great scouting tool for leagues

  • Fifty -One -Fifty
    September 25, 2008 at 3:26 pm
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    I think Spectator Mode woude be great But what I would really like is something along the lines of a “Game File Mode where Players in Leagues can save their Past Games and send that data to other player or the commish for them to load and go over play by play at their Leisure. and before any body smokes me on this . The NFL does it for each team with scout film (I know this because I have installed several system and NFL facilities to hadle the each previous weeks Game Film that come in from the teams the next oponent)

  • DaveDQ
    September 26, 2008 at 4:24 am
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    I think spectator mode isn’t something that needs to be “created” as it’s already in games like FPSs where you can view after you’re eliminated. In some FPS games you can actually join the lonny and set yourself to “view.”

    I like Fifty-One’s concept too where it’s much like what Halo 3 has done.

  • Tristate Killa
    September 26, 2008 at 10:48 am
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    NG Roster Update #5

    Transactions
    LB Joey LaRocque – Added to Bears
    DE Ervin Baldwin – Released to Free Agents
    WR Mark Bradley – Released by Bears
    CB Marcus Hamilton – Signs with Bears
    S Kyries Hebert – Added to Bengals
    C Kyle Cook – Added to Bengals
    S Herana-Daze Jones – Added to Bengals
    C Dan Santucci – Released to Free Agents (IR)
    G Frank Davis – Released by Bengals (Removed)
    CB Jamar Fletcher – Signs with Bengals
    CB Geoff Pope – Released by Bengals (Removed)
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    G Chris Denman – Added to Bills (Practice Squad)
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    QB Gibran Hamdan – Added to Bills
    DT Nic Clemons – Added to Broncos
    S Hamza Abdullah – Released by Broncos
    S Vernon Fox – Signs with Broncos
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    P Ben Graham – Signs with Jets
    TE John Madsen – Released by Raiders
    TE Ben Troupe – Signs with Raiders
    G/DT Fred Wakefield – Added to Raiders
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    FS Justin Hamilton – Added to Redskins
    DT Alvin McKinley – Released by Saints
    DT Kendrick Clancy – Added to Saints
    HB Gary Russell – Released by Steelers
    LB Donovan Woods – Added to Steelers
    LB Patrick Bailey – Added to Steelers
    DT Deljuan Robinson – Added to Texas

    Ratings Up*
    WR Brandon Lloyd – Bears – 75 to 78 – Has been the #1 receiver on the Bears on what is a surprising passing game.
    DT Dusty Dvoracek – Bears – 77 to 80 – Has 8 solo tackles and 9 total tackles through 3 games, Tommie Harris has 3 tackles.
    QB Carson Palmer – Bengals – 94 to 95 – Something didn’t feel right about this, and Carson proved it. Played very well against a good Giants defense despite a busted nose and minimal pass blocking.
    LB Alex Hall – Browns – 61 to 68 – Created several QB pressures with a sack in Week 3.
    LT Donald Penn – Bucs – 76 to 80 – Has been a solid starter for the Bucs for a year now.
    QB Brian Griese – Bucs – 77 to 78 – Threw for over 400 yards in a wild game vs. the Bears.
    WR Antonio Bryant – Bucs – 77 to 79 – Had a 10 catch 138 yard game in Week 3 vs. the Bears.
    DE Turk McBride – Chiefs – 75 to 78 – Has played better this year racking up 12 tackles and 3 tackles for loss.
    HB Felix Jones – Cowboys – 81 to 82 – Looks just as fast on grass as he does on carpet. Up to 97 speed.
    LB Tim Dobbins – Chargers – 65 to 73 – Is now in the rotation at MLB after being a star on special teams for several seasons.
    G Ike Ndukwe – Dolphins – 75 to 79 – Worked well with the rest of the Dolphins O-line on Ronnie’s big day.
    DE John Abraham – Falcons – 92 to 93 – Leads the NFL with 6 sacks. Beat up on Jeff Backus and a rookie LT in KC.
    G Harvey Dahl – Falcons – 76 to 79 – Who? The starting RG in Atlanta paving the way for the Burner Turner.
    G Justin Blalock – Falcons – 77 to 79 – Might be finding his niche after struggling badly last year, especially in pass protection.
    G Uche Nwaneri – Jaguars – 72 to 74 – Now starting at LG for the Jags, the Jags ran wild in week 3 against an undersized Colts front.
    G Daryn Colledge – Packers – 77 to 79 – Working well with an injured interior of the Packers offensive line.
    WR Greg Jennings – Packers – 93 to 94 – Superstar in the making. Him and Aaron Rodgers will be a part of a lot of big plays.
    DE Kalimba Edwards – Raiders – 76 to 79 – Got the better of Pro Bowler LT Jason Peters on pass rushing situations in Week 3.
    HB Michael Bush – Raiders – 79 to 80 – Looks all the way back from injuries. Part of a 3 headed monster for the Raiders at running back.
    FS Jim Leonhard – Ravens – 78 to 79 – Played a great game, including several great kick returns, filling in for injured Dawan Landry.
    T Zach Strief – Saints – 65 to 69 – Filled in for LT Jamaal Brown vs. the Broncos in a wild shoot out vs. the Broncos. Brees threw 48 times.
    CB Bryant McFadden – Steelers – 85 to 86 – Played very well last season as the nickel corner and has filled in for injured Deshea Townsend to the tune of 2 INT’s and 5 pass breakups.
    HB Steve Slaton – Texans – 77 to 79 – Busted a 50 yard run vs. the Titans on his 116 yard and a TD day in week 3. His role as a major part of the offense seems secure.
    *Few minor ratings changes not noted due to time

    Ratings Down
    WR Devin Hester – Bears – 81 to 79 – Has caught 2 balls for 13 yards. Not a part of the offense and seems to only be a special teamer.
    LT Levi Jones – Bengals – 88 to 87 – Was dominated by Kiwanuka in week 3.
    WR Darrell Jackson – Broncos – 83 to 81 – Has slid down the Broncos depth chart, all those passing yards and he is not involved.
    QB Derek Anderson – Browns – 87 to 85 – Might not be all the way back. Looks to have a couple starts left on a Browns team heading for a losing record.
    LB Kamerion Wimbley – Browns – 88 to 87 – Only had 5 sacks last year rushing the passer, this year he has done nothing.
    QB Jeff Garcia – Bucs – 89 to 87 – His benching might be more personal, but only an injury or a couple terrible performances will see him back as the starter.
    CB Ronde Barber – Bucs – 92 to 91 – Has lost a step, got picked on last week vs. the Bears.
    WR Joey Galloway – Bucs – 87 to 86 – Has lost a step, injured a ton and looks disinterested.
    LG Brian Waters – Chiefs – 91 to 87 – Bad timing he goes down 4 points after the Chiefs best running game in a while, but he is near the end.
    S Bob Sanders – Colts – 99 to 98 – Loses his 99 cause he can’t stay on the field. Still not a bigger difference maker on the defensive side of the ball.
    CB Adam Jones – Cowboys – 86 to 83 – Looks like a player that has been out of the league for a while. Would have thought always trying to cover TO would have helped more.
    DE Jamaal Anderson – Falcons – 83 to 81 – Still waiting on his first career sack after being a top 10 pick a year ago.
    TE Vernon Davis – 49ers – 87 to 85 – A lot of people saw him catching more than 4 passes in his first 3 games, big disappointment.
    DE Reggie Hayward – Jaguars – 86 to 83 – Had 27.5 sacks over a 3 year span, since then has 4.5 over 3 years including a year out injured.
    WR Dennis Northcutt – Jaguars – 81 to 79 – Hasn’t done too much on a Jags passing attack that was missing WR Jerry Porter and the invisible Reggie Williams. Matt Jones has stepped up.
    CB Al Harris – Packers – 93 to 92 – Before his spleen was lacerated, looked slow vs. Detroit. Was underrated for a long time and he might be getting old now as people know his name.
    T Chad Clifton – Packers – 95 to 94 – Got beat up by DeMarcus Ware which shouldn’t be a story, but that wouldn’t have happened a couple years ago.
    T Mark Tauscher – Packers – 94 to 93 – Commits too many penalties and looked a little old vs. Dallas.
    WR Randy Moss – Patriots – 99 to 98 – Gave a pathetic effort in week 3 whether not going up for an underthrown duck or his blocking. Looks unhappy and won’t be the same threat without the Brady deep ball.
    CB Tye Hill – Rams – 86 to 81 – Just got his starting job back after the release of CB Fakhir Brown. This was supposed to be his big year but hasn’t turned out that way.
    DT La’Roi Glover – Rams – 84 to 82 – Just benched on the Rams defensive line, that says it all.
    QB Marc Bulger – Rams – 89 to 88 – Just benched for Trent Green, will have his job back in 2 weeks whether due to injury or injury.
    S Corey Chavous – Rams – 82 to 79 – Has been fading for a long time, one of the only secondary’s he could start in.
    HB Ray Rice – Ravens – 80 to 78 – This guy hasn’t been as good as advertised, Willis and McClain seem to have the running game under control.
    DE Jason Taylor – Redskins – 98 to 97 – Is injured and hasn’t made the overwhelming difference some thought he may. Now he is injured.
    DT Brian Young – Saints – 85 to 82 – Long time overdue. High effort player and can’t get off blocks anymore.
    LT Marvel Smith – Steelers – 88 to 87 – Big Ben took a beating last week vs. Philly.
    TE Alge Crumpler – Titans – 86 to 83 – Bo Scaife has double the catches and double the yards of Alge.

    Injuries
    C Tom Nalen – Broncos – IR
    LB Dan Connor – Panthers – IR

    New Roster Update For This Week GUYS

  • C-Man4
    September 27, 2008 at 11:47 am
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    Everyone agree NHL 09 is the best sports game out?

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