The DNA of a Trade

by pastapadre
Posted November 13th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

Lets look at the early returns from the Allen Iverson – Chauncey Billups swap through the latest in NBA Live 09 DNA via 365. As the year goes on it’ll display a more precise picture of how the trade changed the Nuggets and Pistons but it’s interesting to look at it even on the basis of the first couple games. Will the teams adapt more to the new player or the players to the system?

Just from looking at the team DNA from the 11/9 Rewind games you can see some slight variations in how the teams play with their new acquisitions vs how they did previously. While not drastic changes they are apparent and could be the first signs of their make-up for the rest of the season. The Nuggets saw less isolation and more spotting up while the Pistons show slightly more isolation and more spotting up with less cutting and posting up.

While Iverson and Billups aren’t going to completely change who they are that doesn’t mean we won’t see some changes in their DNA. Both players had their DNA reset following the trade which provides the opportunity to show the differences that may be attributed to joining their new teams.

Billups shows an increase in Pick and Roll ball handling which is taking the place of some isolation and posting up.

The DNA for Iverson is showing somewhat more of a shift than with Billups. He has seen half the isolation that he had previously. Considering the offense the Pistons run that is understandable. In its place he has spent more time spotting up and running off-ball screens (which was rare when he was with the Nuggets).

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  • Joe
    November 13, 2008 at 2:00 pm
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    Pasta if you could answer these two questions I would really appreciate it. I do not own NBA Live, I own 2K. Do the DNA updates automatically incorporate into a franchise you have saved or must you keep starting your franchise over after a new update comes out? The 2K insider is great but I’m finding myself restarting my franchise (association) because the updates do not incorporate into an already saved file. Also do the NBA Live updates reflect injuries just like the Madden updates? 2K seems to take the easy way out on this matter by just putting players who are injured, example Parker and Manu on the Spurs, on reserve portion of the roster. The computer AI places them back into the active line ups once you start a new franchise (association) because they are not technically injured.

  • Darkheath
    November 13, 2008 at 2:05 pm
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    I know what “post up” is.. what is “spot up”?

  • Darkheath
    November 13, 2008 at 2:08 pm
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    Good questions, Joe. But I don’t understand you continually restarting your franchise season. Once I start mine (I’m 3 seasons into NBA 2k8), the real world goes away.

  • Clinton
    November 13, 2008 at 2:15 pm
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    @Darkheath Spot Up Jump Shot Is Like just taking the the ball and shooting it on the spot is the best way i can explain it..

    @Joe When u start Fran or season whatever roster you take in to it is the one your stuck with.

  • pastapadre
    November 13, 2008 at 2:21 pm
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    @ Joe:

    You can start your franchise with any set of data. Could the the latest from today, what shipped with the game, or any particular day that you decided you wanted to start up with. Once you begin the franchise though what happens inside it is based on the events of your franchise.

  • sdot
    November 13, 2008 at 2:32 pm
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    if ur NOT 1st ur Last

    dis is semi interestin info here nice

  • swizzy
    November 13, 2008 at 2:37 pm
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    if ur NOT 7th UR LAST

    @sdot

    see again wit da FOLLOWIN QUIT IT MA YOU MAD HO MO

  • Joe
    November 13, 2008 at 2:41 pm
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    Thanks Pasta for answering my question.

  • truth393
    November 13, 2008 at 3:36 pm
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    Pasta do you know if they fixed the player rotation and the reorder roster problem? I’m tired of seeing Kobe starting PG and a bunch of other players playing out of position in dynasty mode. Also do you know if they will give players their new contract extension like they do in Madden?

    Chris Paul and Deron Williams don’t have there new contract, and Devin Harris and Jose Calderon have their right salary, but their both on one year deal. Will this problem be fix?

  • pastapadre
    November 13, 2008 at 3:43 pm
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    @ truth393:

    Not sure, I’ll send an email over and see if I can find out.

  • sdot
    November 13, 2008 at 5:55 pm
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    @ SWIZZY dat was FUNNY

    nice

  • Lake Allen
    November 13, 2008 at 7:41 pm
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    This is really neat stuff to look through. Thanks for showing what the DNA is doing.

  • swizzy
    November 13, 2008 at 10:11 pm
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    @ da H0 M0 who KEEPS followin me N2 EVERY THREAD I go 2 QUIT

    THUGLYFE YA HERD

  • sdot
    November 13, 2008 at 10:17 pm
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    SWIZZY U BETTA NOT be 1 of dudes datz CONSTANTLY ridin me

    like VINCE94 I SWEAR if U R datz MAD ****

  • swizzy
    November 13, 2008 at 10:33 pm
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    I tell U dis BROAD is CONSTANTLY tryin 2 get my ATTENTION

    QUIT IT ur ADVANCES R UNWELCOMED

    how bout YOU STOP RIDIN ME K

    i’m da REAL SWIZZY

    if U DONT NO NOW U NO

  • b
    November 13, 2008 at 10:57 pm
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    pasta i have a question 4 u, which console do u think is better 360 or ps3?, i have a ps3 and i must say im a lil disappointed with graphic of nba 2k9 on the ps3.

  • Justin tuck
    November 14, 2008 at 1:32 am
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    I’m a basketball freak I can dunk and I’m under 6 feet.

  • smokez4Dayz
    November 14, 2008 at 10:36 am
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    how come no article on NBA 2k9 and how the living roster is working, how the insider is taking community feedback and nba statistics and giving us real up to date rosters and player ratings? Not great reporting on your part, Pasta.

    2k9 has fixed the KNicks player ratings for 3pt. since, statistically, the Knicks are shooting and making a bunch of threes. They also updated D.Rose, Mayo, D.Arthur, etc. And up to date player injuries and rotations.

    So far a job well done by the insider. how come no discussion on that?

    like i said last week, a little too much LIVE LOVE…

  • swizzy
    November 14, 2008 at 11:18 am
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    errrbody no dat PASTA IZ EA BIAS

  • Lake Allen
    November 14, 2008 at 11:31 am
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    smokez4Dayz wrote:

    how come no article on NBA 2k9 and how the living roster is working, how the insider is taking community feedback and nba statistics and giving us real up to date rosters and player ratings? Not great reporting on your part, Pasta.
    2k9 has fixed the KNicks player ratings for 3pt. since, statistically, the Knicks are shooting and making a bunch of threes. They also updated D.Rose, Mayo, D.Arthur, etc. And up to date player injuries and rotations.
    So far a job well done by the insider. how come no discussion on that?
    like i said last week, a little too much LIVE LOVE…

    Big deal, so NBA 2K9 is doing roster updates. They now are in the company of Madden 09 and MLB 08: The Show in trying to keep up on things. Thats nice and all but nothing special.

  • sdot
    November 14, 2008 at 12:07 pm
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    WOW LMAO NOW U usin MY NAME 2 BASH PASTA

    U mean U dat SCARED 2 say wut YOU FEEL bout PASTA dat U ONLY hav da HEART 2 say it wen U “POSE as ME

    DAMN so U MUST FEEL pretty GANGSTA wen U act like me huh…. I MUST be Like TONY MONTANA 2 U but i’m more of a CHARLES BARKLEY

    I MA NOT a ROLE MODEL

  • Justin tuck
    November 14, 2008 at 4:17 pm
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    @ swizzy:
    and rightfully so I would bend over if I got free games too.

  • swizzy
    November 14, 2008 at 4:21 pm
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    @Justin tuck

    U an SDOT gots a LOT N common cep he B BENDIN OVA 4 NUTTIN

    ha ha ha ha ha

    advantage SWIZZIZLE

  • BigDiC
    November 14, 2008 at 6:38 pm
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    sdot wrote:

    WOW LMAO NOW U usin MY NAME 2 BASH PASTA
    U mean U dat SCARED 2 say wut YOU FEEL bout PASTA dat U ONLY hav da HEART 2 say it wen U “POSE as ME
    DAMN so U MUST FEEL pretty GANGSTA wen U act like me huh…. I MUST be Like TONY MONTANA 2 U but i’m more of a CHARLES BARKLEY
    I MA NOT a ROLE MODEL

    shutcho bloggin ass up nigga

  • swizzy
    November 14, 2008 at 11:26 pm
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    HA HA HA HA HA

    dam U gots VIOLATED ma

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