MLB 2K9 Demo Impressions and Videos

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Posted February 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am

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I wanted to get up some initial impressions of MLB 2K9 after running through the demo a couple times. By no means is this a definitive assessment of the game, but there are numerous things worth mentioning that I found to be positives as well as dislikes that I have come across already. Overall the reaction to the demo seems to be quite mixed with most everyone recognizing improvement but much of that being overshadowed by discussion of various issues.

Continue on to read through my thoughts as well as check out the first two videos I’ve recorded so far off the demo in HD.

Unfortunately the demo is short on options. 2K didn’t allow for the changing of difficulty levels, controls, camera angles, and it ends after three innings even if the game is tied. The CPU actually plays the game as if the 3rd is the 9th inning though, so I’ve seen the pitcher get pulled for a pinch hitter and walk-offs result in a celebration (though one that isn’t very satisfying). There is no tutorial included so I don’t even know how to do some things such as the base running. These impressions are based on what the demo allows and although it will be representative of the final product to a large extent keep under consideration that things may vary when those options are adjusted and as everyone gets acclimated to the game.

Much has been made of the changes to the pitching and hitting controls. So far I really appreciate the simplification of the swing stick. I have despised using a swing stick in all of the baseball games, usually switching right back over to the buttons. But now I can see myself sticking with it. It is back to being predominantly based on reaction instead of completing a “process”. The only downside is not being able to check swing effectively.

The pitching however has actually gotten worse. I would’ve rather they stuck with last year’s pitching and just eliminated the meatball. It seems like there is no benefit now, as though you’re forced to do the gesture just to do it. And the giant yellow circle and flash of light after each pitch is unnecessary. The large ball cursor also makes it difficult to really pinpoint where you are attempting to pitch to. It is almost as though you can only attempt to pitch to five sections in the strike zone (middle and the corners) or outside the strike zone.

Is it just me or does it seem like the pitch takes long to reach the plate? Fastballs don’t give a sense of their velocity. While it is nice in the sense that it is easier to read pitches and hold off swinging at balls it also seems to make it especially easy to make contact. I can’t specifically remember swinging and missing a single time.

That, along with the CPU swinging at practically any pitch that is going to be a strike (big problem) is going to lead to games with very low pitch counts. I can see this becoming one of if not the main gripe people have with the game.

Even if it is tied to the difficulty level you can literally pick every CPU runner off. That shouldn’t happen even on the lowest difficulty. It remains to be seen if higher ones will have that same problem.

The framerate seems solid, while I’m not sure it always runs at 60fps it does seem mostly consistent which is the important thing. I haven’t noticed any instances where it has affected the experience for me. That concern seems to have been squashed now. You really notice the difference in how the much better 2K9 feels vs 2K8 based off the framerate alone.

The real-time presentation does really make the game flow nicely. I’m not the type that usually sits through cut scenes, but I’ve let this style of presentation play through at times. It just feels more natural, even when skipping to the next event it doesn’t seem as though you passed up something you were being told you should watch. The only thing that distracts from this is how awkward the players move and some odd events within them. As an example in the first inning video below you’ll see Carl Crawford after a foul ball looking off to the side as he holds his bat. Problem is there is no bat in his hands. I was also disappointed that after hitting a home run they didn’t show the player crossing the plate or any sort of celebration as it just ended as he rounded second base. On the plus side I really like how the crowd looks when they go for a ball hit into the stands.

The new commentary makes a huge difference. After last year and not working on commentary at all (except replacing “Devil” with a pause before saying Rays) and now bringing in the new team it really adds to the experience with a fresh feel and good pacing.

One of my favorite things about 2K9 which is another control element they introduced last year actually is using the right analog stick to throw as a fielder. You can still use the buttons to throw to the bases but I love using the stick. It keeps me engaged and just feels fun that way.

Hit variety seems much improved also. I found good success using the left stick to influence the hits. Pushing down will get you to hit grounders, pushing up will lead to balls hit in the air. The only problem I have with this is that naturally most people will primarily hold up on the stick which may result in more home runs being hit than is realistic. The demo has seen lots of home runs but that could partly be attributed to the difficulty level.

The graphics just don’t reach the standards that other sports titles have set. Several of them including the competition are much more impressive graphically. This is especially seen in areas such as 2K9′s player faces, grass, dirt clouds, and stadium details. The screenshots that 2K released were certainly not representative of how the game actually looks. That is not to say that the graphics are terrible, but in comparison to many other sports titles it just doesn’t match up favorably.

Overall the framerate, presentation, and hitting especially were the things that stood out as strengths. However there are several issues I have come across or things that simply bother me and that is after just a couple rounds of the demo. I’m looking forward to the game’s release next week as despite all these things it appears to be a much better offering than 360 users got last year and hopefully that is a good sign for the future of the franchise.

  • Dee

    wow this game looks kind of boring after a while. i might change my mind about this now.

  • Dee

    wow this game looks kind of boring after a while. i might change my mind about this now.

  • Sidewinder

    Bottom line is, it looks like 2k lacked resources to make the graphics look as good as they should. Granted they didnt have much time to revamp the whole game from last year. I see some solid AI things though, so the underlying game might be decent, but hard to get by the funky looking players. And what the hell are they using for batting gloves!

  • Sidewinder

    The one thing that really stands out to me about 2k9 demo is the player models. They are really funky looking and their between plays animation is dorky looking and not seamless either. I am spoiled by The Show, but 2K really took a huge step back here from 2k7. The animation while making a play isnt too bad most of the time though.

    As for the gameplay, I was expecting it to be worse than it was. I had some fun and that is the main thing. It is a fun arcade game. Does it compare sim-wise to The Show. Of course not. I had fun pitching. I know how to set batters up and change speeds and I was getting the appropriate result from batters when I hit my spots. I got quite a few batters to chase balls out of the strikezone. Also, I struck out a couple guys looking. The AI here seems to be good, if you know how to set a hitter up and change speeds. Being a former pitcher, this is a very important element to a baseball game for me and it passed.

    I didnt like the high outfield camera. Probably did this to help the framerate out, but I never liked a blimp view. The swing stick worked okay for me. Like it better than 2k8.

  • Sidewinder

    The one thing that really stands out to me about 2k9 demo is the player models. They are really funky looking and their between plays animation is dorky looking and not seamless either. I am spoiled by The Show, but 2K really took a huge step back here from 2k7. The animation while making a play isnt too bad most of the time though.

    As for the gameplay, I was expecting it to be worse than it was. I had some fun and that is the main thing. It is a fun arcade game. Does it compare sim-wise to The Show. Of course not. I had fun pitching. I know how to set batters up and change speeds and I was getting the appropriate result from batters when I hit my spots. I got quite a few batters to chase balls out of the strikezone. Also, I struck out a couple guys looking. The AI here seems to be good, if you know how to set a hitter up and change speeds. Being a former pitcher, this is a very important element to a baseball game for me and it passed.

    I didnt like the high outfield camera. Probably did this to help the framerate out, but I never liked a blimp view. The swing stick worked okay for me. Like it better than 2k8.

  • Sidewinder

    Bottom line is, it looks like 2k lacked resources to make the graphics look as good as they should. Granted they didnt have much time to revamp the whole game from last year. I see some solid AI things though, so the underlying game might be decent, but hard to get by the funky looking players. And what the hell are they using for batting gloves!

  • Travis
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  • smokez4dayz

    next week. easy pick up. won't hesitate. no much of a follower, cant stand listening to people, i have my own mind,my own money, and I faithfully purchase 2k products. Not really into all this girl talk going on. go by the show if you want it, and most guys have both systems, because they didn't have the balls to pick one system.Get the show on your ps3 but many more people will be playing MLB2k9 on xbox 360

    • Scott

      Uh, yeah I guess XBOX 360 users can play The SHow now…lol

  • smokez4dayz

    next week. easy pick up. won't hesitate. no much of a follower, cant stand listening to people, i have my own mind,my own money, and I faithfully purchase 2k products. Not really into all this girl talk going on. go by the show if you want it, and most guys have both systems, because they didn't have the balls to pick one system.Get the show on your ps3 but many more people will be playing MLB2k9 on xbox 360

    • Scott

      Uh, yeah I guess XBOX 360 users can play The SHow now…lol

  • Sidewinder

    smokez, doesnt sound like you have your own mind but some serious ADD. Get some meds. It will help you deal with reality better. Unless it's just that time of the month for you!

  • Sidewinder

    smokez, doesnt sound like you have your own mind but some serious ADD. Get some meds. It will help you deal with reality better. Unless it's just that time of the month for you!

  • Mckenna

    LOLZ he really does….wow he went really hard about guys having the balls to get one system lol no d*ck MONEY+CHOICE OF ENTERTAINMENT=PS3 & XBOX 360, shit if id have the chance to have both i wouldnt hesitate

  • Mckenna

    LOLZ he really does….wow he went really hard about guys having the balls to get one system lol no d*ck MONEY+CHOICE OF ENTERTAINMENT=PS3 & XBOX 360, shit if id have the chance to have both i wouldnt hesitate

  • Scott

    Ok guys this game really is not very good. Yes probably better then 2k8 but they went and made a baseball ARCADE game. MLB 09, still amazes me with the DEMO. The only thing that MLB 09 needs to approve on is the interaction on the commentary and thats it. Nothing else, nothing at ALL. It plays right out of the box. MLB 2k9 you have to move this slider that slider to make it play aboyt 5 % better, I mean come on. Anway, VC doesn't really care about this game becuase UBISOFT or EA will buy out 2K. Say bye bye to 2k…

  • Scott

    Ok guys this game really is not very good. Yes probably better then 2k8 but they went and made a baseball ARCADE game. MLB 09, still amazes me with the DEMO. The only thing that MLB 09 needs to approve on is the interaction on the commentary and thats it. Nothing else, nothing at ALL. It plays right out of the box. MLB 2k9 you have to move this slider that slider to make it play aboyt 5 % better, I mean come on. Anway, VC doesn't really care about this game becuase UBISOFT or EA will buy out 2K. Say bye bye to 2k…

  • Howard

    Havent heard this one yet, but heres my stance. Im not buying 2k9, OR getting a Ps3 to play MLB the show. Im just not going to play a baseball game this year. 2k9 is not worth it.

  • Howard

    Havent heard this one yet, but heres my stance. Im not buying 2k9, OR getting a Ps3 to play MLB the show. Im just not going to play a baseball game this year. 2k9 is not worth it.

  • Cod

    I really don't understand 2K's problems with outfielders. Around 2K5 they were all insanely fast and arcadey. Enter in the "next gen" era (which seems to really mean downgrade), all of them are insanely slow and laggy feeling. This demo is the same way. The cpu controlled outfielders seem to have no problems getting to a ball. The user controlled outfielders feel like they weigh about 2 tons. Always bogged down, moving in slow motion. It feels difficult to get settled underneath an easy fly ball. I feel like I'm always lugging my slow outfielder to make a "running" catch.

    • Your Mom

      Hold RT it will feel a lot different. I promise you.

  • Cod

    I really don't understand 2K's problems with outfielders. Around 2K5 they were all insanely fast and arcadey. Enter in the "next gen" era (which seems to really mean downgrade), all of them are insanely slow and laggy feeling. This demo is the same way. The cpu controlled outfielders seem to have no problems getting to a ball. The user controlled outfielders feel like they weigh about 2 tons. Always bogged down, moving in slow motion. It feels difficult to get settled underneath an easy fly ball. I feel like I'm always lugging my slow outfielder to make a "running" catch.

    • Your Mom

      Hold RT it will feel a lot different. I promise you.

  • Ben brinkman

    Hey doofus……I am not really ben brinkman you clown. ROTFLMAO

  • Ben brinkman

    Hey doofus……I am not really ben brinkman you clown. ROTFLMAO

  • GGGGbrown

    I notice that most of these bitches complaining about mlb 2k9 are ps3 owners here's a suggestion go suck a dick,go play the show 09 and be done with it !!! I actually like mlb 2k9, its a fucking demo dick heads!!!!!

  • GGGGbrown

    I notice that most of these bitches complaining about mlb 2k9 are ps3 owners here's a suggestion go suck a dick,go play the show 09 and be done with it !!! I actually like mlb 2k9, its a fucking demo dick heads!!!!!

  • STILL BALLIN MANE

    IF YOU GO TO OPERATIONSPORTS AND OTHE WEBSITES THE VIEW ABOUT MLB 2K9 IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE BASHING ON THIS SITE I KIND OF LIKE MLB 2K9 IT DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD AS THE SHOW 09 .BUT I LIKE IT OPINIONS ARE OPINIONS BUT I THINK THE SHOW RAISED THE BAR SO HIGH THAT EVEN A GOOD GAME FEELS AND LOOKS LIKE SHIT BUT LIKE I SAID I THINK 2K9 IS NOT AS BAD AS THE BITCHING YOU HEAR AND YES I OWN A PS3

  • STILL BALLIN MANE

    IF YOU GO TO OPERATIONSPORTS AND OTHE WEBSITES THE VIEW ABOUT MLB 2K9 IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE BASHING ON THIS SITE I KIND OF LIKE MLB 2K9 IT DOESN'T LOOK AS GOOD AS THE SHOW 09 .BUT I LIKE IT OPINIONS ARE OPINIONS BUT I THINK THE SHOW RAISED THE BAR SO HIGH THAT EVEN A GOOD GAME FEELS AND LOOKS LIKE SHIT BUT LIKE I SAID I THINK 2K9 IS NOT AS BAD AS THE BITCHING YOU HEAR AND YES I OWN A PS3

  • PIERRE

    YOU GUYS R RETARDS AND DATS Y 2K KEEPS GETTEN AWAY WITH THIS CRAPPY BASEBALL.IF U GUYS WANNA B IGNORANT CUZ U CANT AFFORD A PS3!ITS FINE BY ME!!ILL B PLAYEN DA SHOW09 SO I DUNT CARE ABOUT DIS 2KBASEBALL ISSUE CUZ I KNOW IT WAS SHIT A YEAR AGO!SO HOPEFULLY U 360 OWNERS ENJOY IT,BUT MY 360 WILL B GETTEN REST WHILE I PLAY DA SHOW09 N U GUYS BUY DAT CRAP THERE FEEDING U AT 2K.YOU RETARDS DEFEND 2K N DATS Y THEY GET AWAY WIT DIS!!THEY MAKE CRAPBASEBALL2K AGAIN N U GUYS SAY "ITS GOOD"!HELLLLOOO!!KEEP IT UP GUYS N NEXT YEAR ULL B PLAYEN DA SAME LOUSY GAME!U BUY THERE CRAP N DEFEND THERE CRAP!THEYLL JUS KEEP MAKEN CRAP!!FOOOOOOLS

    • GGGGbrown

      GOOD IDEA !!!! go out and buy a ps3 for one game YEAH !!!!JUST GO OUT AND DROP 500.00 FOR CONSOLE AND GAME how dum are you!! wait a minute don't answer

      • PIERRE

        UMM YA DATS Y ILL B BUYEN KILLZONE 2 N I MITE ALSO GET MOTORSTORM PACIFIC RIFT WHEN I PICK UP MY SHOW09!U GUYS HAVE FUN WITH UR SOFTBALLCRAP2K!PS3 WILL HAVE A LONGER LIFE THEN THE TWO YEARS OR SO 360 HAS LEFT!I HAVE BOTH SO I GET DA BEST OF BOTH SIDES.U GUYS GET HUSTLED BY 2K N R OK WITH IT!FOOLS SO UR DA DUM ONE

  • PIERRE

    YOU GUYS R RETARDS AND DATS Y 2K KEEPS GETTEN AWAY WITH THIS CRAPPY BASEBALL.IF U GUYS WANNA B IGNORANT CUZ U CANT AFFORD A PS3!ITS FINE BY ME!!ILL B PLAYEN DA SHOW09 SO I DUNT CARE ABOUT DIS 2KBASEBALL ISSUE CUZ I KNOW IT WAS SHIT A YEAR AGO!SO HOPEFULLY U 360 OWNERS ENJOY IT,BUT MY 360 WILL B GETTEN REST WHILE I PLAY DA SHOW09 N U GUYS BUY DAT CRAP THERE FEEDING U AT 2K.YOU RETARDS DEFEND 2K N DATS Y THEY GET AWAY WIT DIS!!THEY MAKE CRAPBASEBALL2K AGAIN N U GUYS SAY "ITS GOOD"!HELLLLOOO!!KEEP IT UP GUYS N NEXT YEAR ULL B PLAYEN DA SAME LOUSY GAME!U BUY THERE CRAP N DEFEND THERE CRAP!THEYLL JUS KEEP MAKEN CRAP!!FOOOOOOLS

    • GGGGbrown

      GOOD IDEA !!!! go out and buy a ps3 for one game YEAH !!!!JUST GO OUT AND DROP 500.00 FOR CONSOLE AND GAME how dum are you!! wait a minute don't answer

      • PIERRE

        UMM YA DATS Y ILL B BUYEN KILLZONE 2 N I MITE ALSO GET MOTORSTORM PACIFIC RIFT WHEN I PICK UP MY SHOW09!U GUYS HAVE FUN WITH UR SOFTBALLCRAP2K!PS3 WILL HAVE A LONGER LIFE THEN THE TWO YEARS OR SO 360 HAS LEFT!I HAVE BOTH SO I GET DA BEST OF BOTH SIDES.U GUYS GET HUSTLED BY 2K N R OK WITH IT!FOOLS SO UR DA DUM ONE

  • Cod

    What does that do? I thought these games didn't have turbo.

  • Cod

    What does that do? I thought these games didn't have turbo.

  • Sidewinder

    I did and never regretted it with The Show 08. And then a funny thing happened, I found other games on the PS3 that were great and PS3 exclusives. Blue Ray movies in 1080P on my 60" HDTV look great too.

    Dont be afraid to broaden your horizons buddy.

  • Sidewinder

    I did and never regretted it with The Show 08. And then a funny thing happened, I found other games on the PS3 that were great and PS3 exclusives. Blue Ray movies in 1080P on my 60" HDTV look great too.

    Dont be afraid to broaden your horizons buddy.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/aldrichdesigner aldrichdesigner

    That isn't the point, it gives an unfair advantage to individuals on live that they would not normally have in a game of baseball. Turning off a default setting while okay for franchise is a horrible solution for a flawed system. Skihawks even stated that he guesses fastball everytime so you will never blow the heat by him because he will know it's coming everytime.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/aldrichdesigner aldrichdesigner

    That isn't the point, it gives an unfair advantage to individuals on live that they would not normally have in a game of baseball. Turning off a default setting while okay for franchise is a horrible solution for a flawed system. Skihawks even stated that he guesses fastball everytime so you will never blow the heat by him because he will know it's coming everytime.

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  • Ben Brinkman

    The Show has all that is missing from 2k………….NUFF SAID. Make the right choice

  • Ben Brinkman

    Its funny how all the stuff about the swing stick and the pitching mechanics were the subject of much praise and were the staple of 2kfanboys argument over the show last year. Now all you fanboys hate the pitching mechanic and hate the swingstick.

    Make up your minds guys. Are you just pretending to like the game just to spike the Show. You don't have to do that you know. Make the right choice.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/aldrichdesigner aldrichdesigner

    what is with the liberal use of the word 2kfanboys. seems like only the haters really use that word. just because it's our (360 owners) only choice for baseball and we love baseball enough to enjoy playing it doesn't make us fanboys. and for the record i do like the swing stick and like the pitching mechanic still. I think the timed one made a little more sense minus the meatball but i still like it. also pasta, 2k has stated that the timing controls are an option minus the meatball. while this won't effect ranked matches it will help if people find it to be that annoying.

  • ben brinkman

    The reason why we use 2k fanboys is quite simple. 2k fanboys are those who support there products year in and year out regardless of the quality of the product and will defend said product to the death even in the face of utter defeat.

    Ask your self these 2 simple questions to determine if your a 2k fanboy.

    1) Did you purchase MLB 2k8
    2) Are you purchasing MLB 2k9

    If the answer to both these questions is yes then you might be a 2kfanboy

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/aldrichdesigner aldrichdesigner

    That's just ignorance for one. And two, a hardcore baseball fan is going to purchase the only baseball game available for their system whether it's good or bad. MLB 2K8 was by no means a great game, it had a lot of flaws however, I got plenty of play out of it because I love the sport of baseball. Do I wish it was better absolutely, Do I regret buying it, NO. And from what I've seen in 2k9 they have fixed most of the flaws in 2k8 so will I be purchasing it, sure. But would I call myself a fanboy…. of baseball maybe.

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