First Thoughts and Videos from MLB 2K9

by pastapadre
Posted March 4th, 2009 at 6:22 am

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With MLB 2K9 out today I recorded a couple innings in HD and also decided to drop some early thoughts on the game. I’ll have a more detailed “wrap-up” article in the coming days as well as a report focusing on the online play of both baseball titles.

Continue on to watch the videos and read some of the initial impressions I have with the game. Needless to say things are not looking good.

I’m not sure if I’ve ever fired up a game for the first time and come across so many problems within such a short period of time. Many of these things have been discussed recently with the demo out there and lots of people getting their hands on the game early. However I didn’t realize how prominent the issues were and how they would end up piling on until now.

Obviously the most widely recognized flaw going in was the propensity of the CPU swinging at everything in the strike zone. Right now I’d estimate probably 90%+ of thrown strikes are swung at. It results in quick innings, low pitch counts, and a lot of base hits. This was my biggest concern going in and it was justified however other things I’ve found loom even larger.

The framerate is good enough, certainly after last year. But it does slow down some right after the ball is put into play and in other situations. There is no question that it isn’t a steady 60fps. Despite that it really isn’t anything that will affect the outcome of a play but still becomes a slight annoyance.

I dislike that that it is so difficult to check swing, the saving grace on that is the pitches come in so slow you rarely would need to check swing. Just like in the demo the pitches float to the plate and you don’t get the sense of speed from a fastball that you would expect.

I had one play in the outfield where my left fielder should have caught it easily but it landed behind him. I then tried to go to replay to see why it happened and the replay feature didn’t work. All I had available was to watch was the pitcher walking around the mound for two seconds preparing to throw the upcoming pitch. Looks like by the time you get to the next batter you can’t watch a replay of the previous play which caught me by surprise.

On to the most pressing areas that need to be discussed. That being the atrocious AI, glitches, and various oddities. In addition to that earlier example I’ve also had:

  • A slow roller go right by the CPU 2B as he stood there
  • Dropped routine catches in the outfield both by user and CPU
  • Numerous instances of a throw to first where the 1B decides to be off the bag allowing for a hit. This literally happens about once every other inning
  • Fielders going in slow motion so they can’t get to a ball in time
  • And in the video below you can see how the CPU RF handles a ball off the wall.

All these things I’ve come across in just a handful of innings so that definitely does not bode well for where this game is headed.

On the positive side I love the end of inning replays. 2K has always done a good job with the transitional presentation in their games. The real time style of presentation continues to be a good move though the player movement at times makes things awkward. I appreciate the flow that it brings to the games along with the new commentary. It was also cool to see the crowd stand up for home runs and the post-game highlights are fantastic.

I’m wondering why can’t you pre-load throws anymore? It looks so rough fielding the ball and having to wait for the meter to fill. It really screws up the fluidity of double plays especially and can result in missing out on them. Also why can’t the pitcher throw to a base with any velocity?

I’m fouling off more pitches, but the CPU doesn’t seem to throw many balls. Goes hand in hand with the CPU not taking any strikes. Almost like they’re just trying to speed up the games. In some ways that is appreciated but not when it means sacrificing the authenticity of what is supposed to be a simulation of the sport.

Just a random annoyance but you have to wait for the batter to finish his routine before you throw the first pitch. On many cases now I’ve attempted to throw the pitch but the meter wouldn’t start to fill, so I’d back off it and then it would pitch with as little put into it as possible. It’s ironic to me that the game has been designed to allow you to speed through it but then you have to sit and wait before you can throw a first pitch.

Basically my first impression of MLB 2K9 is that it is incredibly sloppy. I’m actually somewhat startled by what I’ve encountered. Just like last year I went into it wanting and hoping to like the game, especially since it’ll probably end up as my primary one for online. I think 2K9 has the potential to offer some fun but if the well known issues are just the start of things to come (as I’m seeing already) they’re certainly going to overshadow the few redeeming aspects of this game.

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  • Sean
    March 4, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    I think 2K9 is pretty decent. I'm not trying to call you out or anything, but the little stuff doesn't really bother me. The one thing that does is the foot off the bag at 1st base, but that's pretty much it. As for the groundball, doesn't that happen in every Baseball game?

  • SoupMama
    March 4, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Dood but that foot off the bag thing is VERY prolific — it happens several times a game. That is broken and is literally a catostrophic flaw. If you play 10+ games you will realize just what this means (~4 hits/game for each team that should have been outs???)… it's a deal-breaker…. and all i have is a 360….

  • Alex Rodriguez
    March 4, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Bunch of lames in this topic. So sad dudes

  • darkheath
    March 4, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    So this foot-off-the-bag thing. Are the throws good? Is the guy is just standing in the wrong place… or is he pulled off by bad throws?

    • pastapadre
      March 5, 2009 at 11:15 pm

      Its pretty much random as far as I can tell. He'll just stand in front of the bag and do nothing. They haven't been on throws off-line or anything either.

  • 2k is underrated
    March 4, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    The Show is all Playstation 3 has..it's sad as hell

    • t. daley
      March 5, 2009 at 1:37 am

      Saying that is like saying it sad that my only care is a Rolls Royce. When you have the best that is all you need. That is why 2k doesnt have a football game and my bet is after the licensing agreement is up, they won't have a baseball game either, at least not a real baseball game. Maybe just "The Bigs".

    • Pierre
      March 5, 2009 at 6:55 am

      u need to see KILLZONE 2 also surreal jus like THESHOW!!!!!!!

  • Reginald
    March 4, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    Its times like these that I feel sorry for reviewers. Imagine having a duty to play MLB 2k9 when you already have MLB The show

  • JakeSaint133
    March 5, 2009 at 12:02 am

    Player not even looking at the ball, players misplaying the ball, running into the wall for 10 seconds, then picking it up for that familiar 2k little league outfield throw animation? Yep thats good ol 2k baseball. Gotta say not even 1 month with my new ps3, and I dont miss it one bit.

  • Mike Mckenna
    March 5, 2009 at 1:16 am

    FCKIN TERRIBLE….ONCE AGAIN UNBELIEVABLE…IM DEF A DIE HARD FAN BUT THIS YEAR I AM NOT GOING TO BE PLAYING A BASEBALL GAME THIS YEAR FOR MY 360….SAVING UP FOR A PS3

  • KingLoyd11
    March 5, 2009 at 3:19 am

    the stars on the stros hats are huge

  • smokez4dayz
    March 5, 2009 at 4:26 am

    So, you see MLB2k9 as sloppy compared to the SHOW, kinda like I've been telling you for years with LIVE being sloppy and NBA2k9 being stellar…wow…
    check this, I don't plan on getting the show, neither does my homies who own PS3s, so I will be getting MLB2k9 for the 360. I Don't really listen to reviewers anymore…and more people hangout in the competitions article/forum to bash, offering nothing noteworthy. why listen? most of these guys online are gonna get their hands on MLB2k9 and play it a whole lot than they will admit right now…thats what followers do….they take a little longer to come around…adjust your sliders, play it on pro like most of you do anyway…no reviewer has said the game isn't FUN, and Im not as deep into baseball as I am with Football or Basketball, so authenticity is vague term when dealing with video game fun, will Arod go deep with an inside fastball at his knees? You bet! thats all that matters

    • Joe
      March 5, 2009 at 6:03 am

      I'll have to admit, I was a Show fanboy a long time ago, and I even got my last name (it's unique-ish) pronounced in 2K7. But the Show is exactly like the PS2 version from 2K6 so there is no difference every year. Sure the Show has better graphics, but when you realize there's like 1 signature style, you jump ship to 2K easily. Plus, the announcers suck compared to 2K9's, and I'm glad they got rid of Morgan and Miller anyway. MVP had funny crap, yet it's hailed as the best baseball game by these fanboys.

  • donewiththissite
    March 5, 2009 at 4:33 am

    you guys are really something. im done with this site. 500$ to buy a "good" baseball game. obviously AI aggresiveness and hats with the logo's to big are worth 500$ in todays economy. seriously fella's. if you are going to throw that much money away on a video game system for ONE game, then there are issues. Mortgage anyone? Medical Insurance? you guys ever hear of stuff like that. I'm sure its worth the 500$ b/c the virtual Bobby Abreu has a high OPS in your franchise. point and case to why this country is in the spot its in, people throwing there money away. when you guys eventually graduate high school or college, I things will change. this is coming from a 26 year old, not some 50 year old. For you guys that have a family, and kids, and can afford to drop 500$ just on a video game system for one baseball game, well…..good bless ya. If you can't and you do, issues.

  • ACREYMAN
    March 5, 2009 at 5:09 am

    I cant get into this game. I get real stir crazy when I play it, its just tooooo slow for me. Remember this was a different studio that make the game than last year and they were put under alot of pressure to get this game out. It looks like they bit off a lttle more than they could chew and maybe next year will be better. They simply didnt have enough time to work out the kinks.

  • Joe
    March 5, 2009 at 5:58 am

    I like this game over the Show. The Show is getting really old, fast.

  • Joe
    March 5, 2009 at 6:00 am

    What else? Sony fanboys are like that. Besides, Pro Spirits 5 blows away the Show in the water, and that's a PS3 exclusive, so why they're coming on here trashing it when they know 2K has always been more fun.

  • SoupMama
    March 4, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    So i've now played 10 games online. While the game suffers from all the above-mentioned donkey-moments —- it deserves a little credit that the online play (in terms of performance) is very good.

    THAT SAID: The 1st baseman has stepped off the bag for no good reason about 30 times in those 10 games ………. and that destroys this game — i'm not kidding 30 times. Too bad — maybe a patch… …..

    • pastapadre
      March 4, 2009 at 11:19 pm

      Definitely. My online play write-up is largely positive. Should have that up maybe by tomorrow depending on how things go.

  • Sean
    March 5, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Yeah 2K9 is really not all that bad. People just complain to complain and sometimes even about the littlest things. I'm sure The Show is good as well. I hope one day, MVP Baseball comes back.

  • Pdogg
    March 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    This is what happens when EA decides to screw fans with exclusives. Get used to crappy baseball games, football fans are used to it.

  • J-Claw
    March 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    For once I agree with a review. D+
    http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3173081&...

  • Joe
    March 5, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Also I'm not the "Joe" who responded to statements on the other pages of this posting. So please don't think I'm a big 2K lover.

  • Troy
    March 5, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Hey Pasta,

    First, hopefully your observations in relation to the game are addressed in the upcoming patch.

    I wanted to offer an additional 'issue' with the game. I could throw a rock at Wrigley Field from where I live, season ticket holder and I love my Cubbies. While playing the game I noticed a reference to the 'South Siders'. At first I thought I was hearing things… then it happened again, and again.

    I cannot believe that in addition the the game play issues that they could screw something up like this. This isn't just an insult to us North Siders, but also the South Siders. Sox fans have a hatred for the Cubs. At any rate, this in my opinion is one of the biggest blunders of the game. It shows poor quality assurance and lack of understanding of the game of baseball.

    Could you please highlight this issue with 2K? If it isn't fixed in the upcoming patch I will bring to the attention of the local Chicago media. I can tell you, the Onion would have a field day with it!

  • beerthugsr
    March 5, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    This game is not nearly as bad as everyone is saying. Clearly its got issues, but its a good game.

    But, is it just me, or can you no longer choose your created players batting stance/pitching motion?

    Also, in response to the whole not being able to pitch while the batter is in his prestance motion, all you have to do is press the A button, and it will skip right through it.

  • slacker77
    March 5, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Pasta, is it possible tofux most of the gameplay problems with sliders?

    • pastapadre
      March 5, 2009 at 11:17 pm

      Nope, not really.

  • Swaggalicious
    March 6, 2009 at 8:51 am

    I agree with most of what you said.Except the computer does throw alot of balls actually,As long as you dont swing at the first pitch everytime you will see balls.I work the count almost every at bat I never see 3 straight strikes.

    Also you can just hit the (A) button or (x) button to skip the batters routine you dont have to sit and wait everytime.And if you press L on the 360 as you throw it, it makes you throw the ball quicker so that helps turn double plays.

    I think a patch can help some things and push the game a little bit to make it alot better then it is.I think its just a thing or two away from being a really fun game.

    And about the pitch velocity I notice it.Like when I faced Bobby Jenks fastballs were jumpin on me and I was fouling alot of balls off.Also I have had times facing Johan Santana and being way out in front of his Change and rolling over on it for soft grounders so I would say the pitch speeds are pretty realistic.

  • swaggalicious
    March 6, 2009 at 8:52 am

    But the CPU swings at to many first pitches and the fielding in the OF is bad.Ive had it happen to me quite a few times where I am standiing under the ball and it goes behind me.Also the computer usually runs into the wall for 2-3 seconds after the balls bounces off the wall.

    • Jamin
      March 8, 2009 at 3:30 pm

      I hate the fielding in this game because I have also had where I am right where the ball is going to land and than it lands behind me or to the side of my field and the fielders are too slow. I'll be playing with the phillies and Shane Victorino will be moving at like 2mph and never can catch the ball.

  • purplepeopleeater
    March 8, 2009 at 10:20 am

    I'm having a blast with it, *shrug*

  • fuckmlb2k9
    March 9, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    2k is fucking waaaaaaaaaaack worst game in history

  • Laterolus
    March 12, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    i need help anybody Do anybody out there knows how to put your created player to play in the game?
    thank u for ur help! Laterolus.

  • LATEROLUS
    March 12, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    i need help with my game i would like to know how u put my created player to play in the game? if any one know how to pleaes sent me a feed back thank u! LATEROLUS.

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