The Wrap-Up: MLB 09 The Show

by pastapadre
Posted March 6th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

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At times I’ve had some difficulty writing about The Show over the last couple months which is actually due to what a quality product 08 was. Usually you can assess the previous iteration and have an idea of what you’re looking for out of the next. With 08 the only real glaring weakness was with online play. It is tougher to identify and discuss the improvements to a game when it was already so good to begin with.

So that’s where I start when evaluating MLB 09 The Show. I already knew it was a really good game. But would the enhancements and additions stand out when playing it extensively? And has SCEA done enough to justify the purchase of a game that didn’t add any big new features? Continue on for “The Wrap-Up” on MLB 09 The Show.

When I say there are no big new features that doesn’t mean there isn’t anything that stands out immediately because there is. The lighting in the game is amazing. There really is no other sports game that comes close to how well it has been done here. Graphically overall MLB 09 could stand up against any sports title released and is arguably the cleanest and best looking of this generation.

The authenticity on and off the field is unmatched. It’s the little things that really makes everyone recognize what an achievement the game is and adds a great deal of longevity and value. You appreciate the work that went into the game more because of that. Gameplay wise the best way to sum it up is by saying it is a fantastic simulation of the actual sport. It is a baseball video game, not video game baseball.

The pitching meter has been adjusted some for this year and it results in pitches being less reliable. And that is a good thing. I like to pitch from the behind the pitcher view, with no strike zone, ball cursor, or vibration. It makes it very challenging to spot pitches accurately. The result is more excitement and nerves and realistic pitch counts.

Working the count in The Show is the best way for success at the plate. I still struggle to string together hits which ends up meaning more runs are accounted for via the home run than probably should be. I think that could be something that varies from user to user though.

Road to the Show has received some enhancements, though I really didn’t notice many differences at least that stood out in my time with it outside of some new options. I still prefer being a relief pitcher but now that they’ve offered the option to skip base running I’m going to consider playing a position in the field. Unfortunately for those who actually like running the bases the camera is broken which makes for an adventure. Still the mode helps separate the game from the competition in terms of depth and variety. It’s good enough that it could stand on its own as a separate game but you get it included.

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The screenshot feature is actually something that is built into the PS3 that any game can take advantage of but few have. Thankfully The Show includes the functionality and it is the best to date. The image quality is fantastic and unlike other screenshot features it isn’t limited to taking them in replay mode. As long as you’re playing MLB 09 you can capture anything that comes on screen including on-going gameplay action and while in the menus.

They also added a highlight saving feature. While they don’t have a way to upload directly to a website like EA and 2K do you can transfer them to your computer just like the screenshots and upload them to a hosting site from there. The quality is quite good as well although they don’t come out in full HD. The thing is that recording the highlights is anything but user friendly. It is really awkward and difficult to utilize. While you have full freedom to move the camera around you can’t do cuts so you’re seeing all the movement as opposed to being able to cut to different angles.

I’m not a fan of the home run cut scenes. I’d rather get to see the ball sailing out. The instant cut to the batter for his reaction could be powerful if it was rare but seeing it every time now takes some of the excitement of a big home run away.

The loading times once again are on the long side. That hampers the experience especially for people going through Road to the Show at a quick pace. Loading in and out of gamesĀ  frequently just accents how long those load times are. This is probably more of a PS3/Blu-ray issue though than it is The Show’s fault.

I really hope that SCEA doesn’t cave to the people who are claiming the game needs to utilize the right stick more. If they do I’m pleading to only make right stick functionality as an additional option and not the defaults. Innovation for the sake of innovation is not a good idea. There is no reason to change the best pitching system and best batting system on the market today in order to present a image of innovation via the gimmicks of their inferior competition. The only RS functionality I actually like is throwing to the bases. The others offer nothing more than being able to claim they are innovative and “next-gen”.

Online play has been the achilles heel for SCEA’s MLB franchise for years now. Unfortunately that continues to be the case. Click here to read the most extensive online play analysis available for MLB 09.

The Wrap-Up

MLB 09 The Show isn’t just aimed at gamers but also at the hardcore baseball fans. It is remarkable the level of authenticity and polished gameplay being offered. This is a game that is selling PS3s. It’s a game that the Madden developers are praising. However online play continues to prevent The Show from providing the total package and fulfilling its potential to be the best and most complete sports title on the market.

  • MLB 09 is by far the greatest video game expeience I've ever had. I usually get bored of a game after a month of purchasing it. Not The Show every game is exciting. I'm playing at a difficult level in franchise mode and I'm 21-15
  • Smokez4Dayz
    same 10 year pitching meter. how is a pitching meter simulate real pitching? Whats wrong with have a ten month turnaround and not just update the rosters. If any other company did that, you losers would be crying about. Your precious MLB is just 07 with new graphics, and everybody is ready to buy a whole system to play one game. Love the financial responsibility. copycats ruining america, no originality anymore, and the little pre teens think its cool to be a follower. And your boards and articles prove this theory everyday. We have become a nation of followers, and wait for someone to show me what to like-kind of people. Its sad. Just ten years ago, we wasn't like this.
  • Sidewinder
    Daley knows his stuff. Good post.
  • blake jays fan
    Hey guys, i'm playing the show on a 42' plasma LG. I don't have a hdmi cable. i'm thinking about buying one how much better will it look Ex. lighting
  • T. Daley
    Blake: HDMI cables are generally better than component cables. If you plan on running the game at 1080p then you must have an HDMI cable. The show is optimized to run at 720p so you don't have to use an HDMI cable. The one advantage to using HDMI is that it can carry both sound and video signals through the one cable.

    As far as picture quality goes, at 720p you wont see any significant improvement in picture quality if you go HDMI over RGB component cables. However using cheaper cables isn't the same as using a higher quality cable such as monster. Better quality cables will give you a better picture.

    Personally I run all monster cables (HDMI) for the video, Optical for sound and I run a Sony Bravia XBR4 46". My sound system is a bose lifestyle 5.1. My sound and picture quality is flawless.

    If your TV is a 1080p television then you need to go with the HDMI so you can get the full benefit of 1080p ( Blueray movies, Games that run in 1080p)
  • Sidewinder
    Ouch, Daley bought into the marketing hype of Monster HDMI cables and paid the price. You could have bought two new games instead. You could buy great HDMI cables for under $10. Check out Amazon. It's digital buddy, you wont notice a difference, only on analog signals using an analog cable will you notice a difference. I applaude your TV choice but Bose buddy, Bose? You must have a smaller room or a SWF....significant wife factor.:)

    I must admit to buying Bose bookshelf speakers 20 years ago and always liked them, no matter what the audiophiles say. My little brother has them now as his surrounds.
  • nyr2k2
    I don't know, T. Daley. As I said, I used to swear by Monster Cable products. I kept reading various places that cheaper cables produced the same picture quality, so I picked one up. My buddy and I did a side-by-side comparison with our PS3s running Uncharted: Drake's fortune, and I couldn't notice any difference (the "budget" cable was a Mad Catz). I'm not going to go as far as to say there is NO difference whatsoever, but to my eye they looked pretty damn identical.

    Judging by your setup you seem to be pretty adamant about having the absolute best quality electronics and components, so I'll take your word for it that I was right all along and Monster Cable is better. However, since this guy seems to be in the same category as me--not too die-hard about it--I think it's worth saving 50-70 bucks.

    Just my opinion though!
  • nyr2k2
    Much better! I used to just play with a component cable on a non-HD set, then eventually bought a S-video cable. The difference there was night and day. After buying an HD set and using HDMI cables, I can't believe I ever played without them.

    Also, don't get suckered into buying $100 HDMI cables. The cheaper cables ($30 or so) are JUST as effective and durable. This is coming from a guy the used to swear by Monster Cables.
  • Sidewinder
    NY probably meant to say he had composite cables, not component. Composite cables are the basic RCA cables of the last 40 years. Component cables are HD but have the video separated from the audio, where HDMI has them all in one. Video wise components are every bit as good as HDMI except when it comes to 1080P/24 movies. It wont do that, but it will do standard 1080P if your TV has 1080P component imputs. My Sony A3000 60" does and it looks great. My 360 is the older one without HDMI, so I use component and I get a 1080P signal.
  • blondeviking64
    LOL, how many players are there in MLB? Do you include AAA and AA players in that. If you do then there are a ton of players to keep track of. I cant imagine not missing a few minor players. And besides there will be roster updates as the year progresses which should help keep things accurate (I hope)
  • blondeviking64
    So I was playing a fantasy drafted team (my favorite dynasty mode option) and BJ Upton was chasing one down in CF and got there in plenty of time. But somehow he misplayed it and dropped the fly ball. Next a screamer was hit to 1st base. Todd Helton tried to snag it but it rolled up his glove and bounced for a single. It was then that I realized this game was going to be amazingly athentic. Even now I still see things happening that are true to life but never before seen in a game. I saw two outfielders chasing down a shot to left center run into each other and fall down resulting in a triple. This is the single best sports game I have ever played. I was so impressed with the realism here that I cant get enough.
  • nyr2k2
    Anyone know what today's update addressed?
  • T. daley
    Here is my Final assessment of the online play in MLB 09 the show. Here are some tips I found to be spot on in getting quality games.

    1) Always play with fast play on : Less info to have to upload and download plus it keeps the game moving at a good place
    2) Always play your games in your regions lobby: East, Central, West. This will insure that you are playing someone close to your location thus a better connection.
    3) Have your PS3 hooked up wired vice wireless: Every little bit helps
    4) Cable modem is the way to go: I personally have Roadrunner with speed boost. Most of the problem games i have had were from people using DSL or other non cable connections.
    5) When you get your matchup check the connection in the center of the screen before you enter into the game. YOU SHOULD ONLY PLAY IF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN YOU AND THE OTHER PLAYER IS "GREAT" OR "GOOD". You should targer "GREAT" whenever possible. Even Good connections have minor lagging to it, though still playable.
  • About not being able to string together hits online, I'm realizing that since everybody picks good teams with great pitchers, you're always facing Santana, Sabathia, etc., so it would be tougher to string together hits against those guys consistently. Tonight I used Texas online, playing Baltimore, and I lost 12-4, Padilla got lit up. So I think it's the good pitching you'll see more often online that makes it tough to string hits together.
  • About not being able to string together hits online, I'm realizing that since everybody picks good teams with great pitchers, you're always facing Santana, Sabathia, etc., so it would be tougher to string together hits against those guys consistantly. Tonight I used Texas online, playing Baltimore, and I lost 12-4, Padilla got lit up. So I think it's the good pitching you'll see more often online that makes it tough to string hits together.
  • About not being able to string together hits, I'm realizing that since everybody picks good teams with great pitchers, you're always facing Santana, Sabathia, etc., so it would be tougher to string together hits against those guys consistantly. Tonight I used Texas online, playing Baltimore, and I lost 12-4, Padilla got lit up. So I think it's the good pitching you'll see more often online that makes it tough to string hits together.
  • delron
    has anyone noticed any uniform errors?
  • Scott SDmak
    its all about selling jerseys that they hope people will wear out and about. dull colors like black and white are much more common to wear then a varient of blue
  • B.B.
    Best Sports Game ever, and they can STILL improve it in the years to come. amazing
  • Mike
    I still think Franchise has a bug in it though...it is very easy to trade "weaker" players for a very talented player...and example of this is you go out and overpay for a free agent in my case Jermaine Dye...I then traded Dye and my worst player for Grady Sizemore...Also the progression isnt that good as well...Hanley had a 35-35 season and his overall dropped 2...I know this is because of the coaching but that is very unrealistic...However I do have to admit the Show 09 is the 2nd best baseball game ever behind MVP 05
  • Hey, not everyone failed to use the screen capture. I used it to grab a few screenshots for my Texas Rangers site here:

    http://www.rangerfans.com/archives/2009/03/the_re...
  • Steve-O
    I also purchased a PS3 just for the Show and I love it. RTTS is very addictive even though my hitting still sucks. My only gripe is the online play is not good. MLB 2k9 seems to have fixed that issue this year.
  • kbin007
    Next, when in Franchise mode, can you fire and hire coaches during the season, or do you have to wait for the off-season, or can you do it at all? If you can, I haven't been able to figure out how to do it. I wish there was more information given with the game to explain things like this. I've had the last two editions of this game and I still don't know what the difference is when you allow the pitching meter to go into the red or yellow. I can't see any increase in velocity or sharpness of the break by going into the red. Anyone know for sure, or you all like me and only guessing? Finally (although these are not all my gripes, only the ones I can think of now) two words, collision detection. Why can't they implement this? Other games do it rather successfully. I get tired of running through ghost players. All in all, this is still a great game, but I really don't see many improvements from last years game, and please Sony, get rid of the commentating crew for next year. Those would be my three biggest things to fix for next year, and in this order, 1) fix the lag, finally, 2) new commentators, and 3) more info available on how to use features.
  • blondeviking64
    I have seen some collision detection ie, the 2 baseman dodging the runner to make a throw to first. Ive seen the runner jump out of the way of a ball thrown from 2nd to 1st. And Ive seen two outfielders run into each other trying to chase down a fly ball. I cant say that the collision detection is terribly good, but it is improved from last year. I have noticed that the velocity of pitches is less when the meter is in the yellow versus the red. I also noticed that depending upon where you miss (above or below) the yellow line affects where the pitch breaks. you can be pretty darn accurate if you get good with the meter and you can change the speed of pitches and others. Try throwing curveball or changeup first in the front end of the yellow, then in the backend of the red and see how the velocity changes
  • kenny powers
    I agree with you on collision detection, its not just restricted to players, as you can hit home run balls through the huge right field wall in houston. not against the wall, through it, like its not there.
  • kbin007
    I'll start out by saying after playing a dozen or so games now I can't put this game in the best ever category like most of have. The off-line is great, probably a mid 90's rating, but the on-line portion is unplayable. I still don't see why Sony can't fix a problem that they know exsists, it's like they didn't even bother to do anything to fix the lag. I can safely say that I've played my first and last game on-line with this efition of the Show, unless I hear word of a patch that fixes it. A big part of next-gen gaming is supposed to be playing on-line, so why haven't they attempted to make it better? Anyway, a few nit-picks from the off-line part of the game now. First, why is almost every thow by the catcher, both human and comptuer high into second? It seems that everytime you steal second, that the second baseman or shortstop has to leap in the air to come down with the throw? <continues>
  • blondeviking64
    LOL, I havent had the cather problem at all. Ive thrown several basestealers out. Im certain it depends on the power you use to throw with and the actual catcher you are using also. Try using brad asmus or yadier molina and not holding the triangle button so long.
  • TOlittletoLate?
    dude go to Optoins on PS3 menu n change mic setting to Logitech then itll b read n work!
  • ....
    Some of these were never in the game or any game. They were scrub players and not in the MLBPA thus they could not be used in game.
  • ...
    but they are in the mlbpa, and were all in last years game, and will be released as caps by opening day. Im tired of hearing about the MLBPA excuse, because its year after year, players dont show up in the game that were in the game the year before and are in the mlbpa. dont get me wrong, i love the game, best baseball game ever by far, just sick of hearing that answer
  • ssd
    hey, has anyone else noticed that there are a TON of players missing from the game? players that were active and played all of last year, and years past. here are some examples of what i mean
    Paul Bako, brendan donnelly, kris benson,. brett tomko, Eric Milton, emil brown, just to name a few, there are plenty more missing however.
  • I checked IGN for release dates for upcoming games. I see Gretzky Hockey is making an appearance for the PS3. I actually enjoyed Gretzky Hockey on the PS2. Are the developers of The Show making Gretzky Hockey??

    Sorry for going off topic...
  • Like the Jays, hate the uniforms...Toronto needs to re-design their unis OR go back to the originals. I loved the original hats and uniforms. Those were unique. Why a team named the Blue Jays went to a black color scheme is beyond me...

    Bring back George Bell, Dave Steib, Kelly Gruber and Roberto Alomar...Oh, and Joe Carter.
  • I think Pasta was referring to the HR camera showing up more frequently than it did last year. In '08, it seemed that there was a nice mix to the "no doubt" camera and one where the ball clears the wall...

    I like the "no doubt" cam and then watching the replay to see where the ball was actually hit...

    I think, and I am assuming what Pasta is saying, when you watch a broadcast of a game the camera follows the ball then the replays will show the hitter's reaction...Regardless, the homers are done well...
  • Sidewinder
    No, there is a HR Celebration option. It defaults ON. Thus, it will immediately show your batter's reaction when he makes contact with a HR, instead of watching the ball go over the fence.

    With that turned OFF, then the camera follows the ball like normally it would. Once the ball lands past the fence, then it comes back to the batter circling the bases and touching Home Plate.
  • Josh
    Pasta I personly like 2k's right stick pitching better because to me it gives you more of a feeling of actually throwing a pitch instead of just pushing a button twice & using a meter. That being said I agree with you in that if they do add the use of right stick pitching next year they should absolutely make it optional & not default. Some people like it & some don't.
  • T. Daley
    When will you 2k drones ever realize that gimmicky controls don't mean good controls. Now if you had a Wii controller in your hand then you may have something there but since you don't, R or L stick movements dont in ANY WAY feel like real pitching. Get a clue dude. Gimmicky controls is why 2k as a sports franchise has hit rock bottom.

    People don't want to have to think about the controls when they play a game. They should be instinctive and you shouldn't have to battle them. The meter system is the best of the best. Its a long live tried and true system that has been the staple of sports games forever and that aint no accident either.
  • Roger Clemens
    So you have to do street fighter like moves in real life to throw a pitch?

    Now damn, I should have used that instead of roids!

    Anyhow, the batter/pitcher match ups (battles) are unmatched in The Show. Ever in the history of baseball gaming.
  • Josh
    PASTA, EVERYTIME I ADD MY MY IMPORTED MUSIC FROM MY IPOD OR TRY TO ADJUST THE STARTING POINTS OF CERTAIN SONGS IN THE EDIT PLAYER MENU OR THE MY MLB MUSIC MENU, THE GAME EITHER FREEZES OR COMPLETELY RESTARTS MY PS3! WHATS THE DEAL WITH THIS? I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH THIS PROBLEMS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN READING OTHER GAME FORUMS & OTHERS ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS & IF SO IS SONY AWARE OF THE PROBLEM?
  • Mr. Marcus
    You're not further than me T. Daley I live in Japan and my connection is virtually perfect. SO I do 2nd your opinion on the bad reputation that The Show has gotten from online play.
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