NBA Live 10 To Have Custom Shot Arcs

arc, what about the players shot form?

Hey Pasta, when will we find out about the new features in NBA LIVE 10 and NBA2K10??

Live 10, I think has potential this year to get everyone to enjoy the game. Some improvements Live needs is realistic graphics, I hate the cartoon-ish graphics for Live 09. Players look too skinny and short. The gameplay is slow and robotic, unlike 2k's fast-paced and realistic movements. The in-game atmosphere in 2k dominates Live's dead atmosphere. Every little can help Live. IDK, every year Live seems to get better but, not on 2k's level of gameplay. As far as for features, Live completely has the best basketball features, as far as that goes. EA has to convince me this year that NBA Live 2010 will take complete dominance of basketball video gaming, before I purchase another one in the future.

nba live 10 should have put back dunks

2 EA sports an NBA LIVE i want u to really think about this ? load up nba LIVE 09 an Take a look at lets say a great rookie number 30 for the heat ...an really look at the model that u made an then ask your self if i was on the other end being the consumer would i suport something like that....god bless yall

Larry Bird and Reggie miller started the pll up threes in transition thing. Reggie got it from Bird who used to do it a lot relatively.
Anyway pull up in transition is not my main concern. Players already do this in 2k9 on higher difficulties. And not even big name players. I notice whenever i am playing a big name player it becomes hard to stop them cause they always tend to take over games.
Duncan, Kobe, Wade all have typical big games in 2k9. I haven't played live in a while, can't remember how they were there, but i didn;t notice that they really took over a game even if i put good D on them. In 2k9 they also tend to make passes and run plays to counter your gameplan as the game goes on.

Did I ever say that he took a great number? No. My POINT was that
transition 3 point shots are taken in the NBA by many players. You

them argued that you've never seen that. I gave you examples of some

of the players that do that. Then you said that Wade doesn't shoot

3's when in fact he's taken nearly 250 so far this year. Irregardless

of how many he makes, he does take up pull up 3's in transition as

well as other NBA players. You lost this argument. I am right I

don't even know why you are continuing. How about I give you my NBA

league pass login so you can watch more than what they show on basic

cable so you know some more of the finer intangibles of the game?



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Wade has taken 242 three point shots this year, and he's taken plenty of pull up 3's on the break. Irregardless of whether or not he makes many, the FACT is that he takes them and many other NBA players do as well. You just basically agreed with me that players do pull up for 3 point shots on the break, especially if they are hot, but earlier you said you never saw that. I'm not saying that this happens every time, but if you have the range and you're open and feeling it, the shot will be taken especially if defenders give you the space or are more concerned with protecting the basket. Or penetrating and passing it out to the open 3 point shooter on the fast break. In NBA Live or 2K, they always attack the basket.




Thanks for basically proving my point yet again, andcontradictingyourself. You make this too easy.





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Jimmie Rutledge

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JR wade shoots 30 percent from the 3pt line. and has taken over 1500 field goals and i am sure a very small percentage of that is pull up 3's in transition especially when you shoot 30%!

I Know who I am and dont eally care to know who you are to be honest with you. But i do also know basketball and that live is not basketball. I have always adimitted that 2k is not perfect but its as close as you can get to realistic basketball as possible. like i said anytime you up for more debate lets start with sales number or better yet read the other posts on here. not many siding with live 09 are they.

I'm not talking about sales numbers in comparison with 2K. The point I made that it was well received but not as high as 2K. Who's saying a game is better than another? It's a matter of preference and what you're into. Obviously you do care what others think, since you want to "brag" about playing bball at a "real high level." The fact is, there are many who enjoyed Live 09, and appreciated the progression, especially with the new development and programming team onboard. Please stay on subject instead of going in 4 different directions at once and not sticking to your case. You're just arguing just to argue.


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Jimmie Rutledge

Lets focus on the right now. This just makes you sound like a fanboy. I'm looking at progression. Both games lack a lot of things that should be in the game. My POINT was that Live didn't tout this as a feature, merely an update on what they've been up to on their blog.

what the hell are you serious! this is basic part of basketball that should have been in the game already! they are finally putting it in 2010 and you think this is ok??

I'm not looking at the past, as this team of programs heading the charge have only been on for a year or 2 and in that time frame NBA Live has improved by leaps and bounds. Thing is, going tit for tat does nothing.


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Jimmie Rutledge

Never "testy" I've heard it all, but based off your rants, you sounds like the "testy" one.

Live has progressed since 2008, and granted the game play isn't better than 2K's out the box, 2K's gameplay is the lesser of two evils. That's the way I see it. Whereas Live has progressed the last couple editions, in some respects 2K9 was a half step back. You have been quick to criticize Live, but yet you've not one pointed out one flaw of 2K, which shows your biase.

Live was received decent reviews, and provided a patch fixing a lot of flaws upon release. As Mr. Wang said, that 2K isn't scalable enough to address it's issues, and covers up their flaws by adding more animations. For example, they a couple years back they were talking about their own footplanting technology, but couldn't fix it, and instead just continue to add on more pre-set animations which takes away from user control. I'm glad EA is bringing in the right people to address some of the other issues, it shows that they are progressive and want to put out a better product.

Have you followed anything on Live 2010? If you go to the forums, gameplay is their biggest focus this year. From ball physics, shooting (to include shooting styles and archs), rebounding/boxing out, movement, player models/physics and movement, net physics, layups, even bringing in manual bank shot shooting mechanics in the game.

As I've stated, I'm looking for the best quality basketball game so I can play throughout the year because pro basketball is my favorite sport. For the first time in years I've played a game and made it to the all-star game (I haven't done this since 2005 w/ 2K or Live).

I'll be just as critical with Live as I'll be with 2K. They both have their flaws. This year though, made me feel as if there were finally two decent basketball titles on the market. Live won some fans back this year and satisfied it's base. 2K appealed to it's base, but it terms of it's gameplay, I feel it took half a step back, whereas the previous 4 years it had been about progression. Hopefully Wang was wrong about the 2K ceiling in terms of it's engine, because there are many things that 2K does right and as long as their is competition it means nothing but good things for consumers.

That is your problem right there Jr. See unlike you I have actually played basketball at a high level not just a fan. So when I play a basketball game i know what is basketball period. And when i play 2k its as real as basketball as i can get with out having to go out into the street and dribble around and shoot hoops. Both games have its flaws and 2k have some issues that i wish would be corrected. I'm not a FANBOY cause i dont really care about either one cause both of them have issues but ill take the lesser of the 2 and that is 2k right now. I dont think 2k has reached its ceiling cause it has some gameplay issues that need to be resolved and can add some more features like live has. Like I have said time and time again if you want to continue this just go and check out the sales number and you will get a better indication of what other people think about live.

You can't assume anything about anyone on here. Played basketball at a high level, lol, the same can be said about me, but it doesn't qualify me as a basketball video gaming programming expert. You just made yourself sound like a clown.




You're doing a nice job of back peddling now and admitting to 2K's fault, but lets stick to the discussion at hand instead of your fanboyism. Your rhetoric is predictable, and in fact nothing different than what a lot have said on here.





Thanks for proving my valid points.



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Jimmie Rutledge

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No i dont follow development and dont really care to do so. I only play games mostly sports and call em as i see them.

I'm hoping one game implements a "demand the ball/clutch" type of feature. Where players like Lebron/Kobe/Wade tend to be passive aggressive in the first 3 quarters (depending on the flow of the game) and in the 4th see the ball a lot. I've really been looking at what I'd like to see new out of both franchises. I've never seen a pull up 3 by the CPU at the top of the key on a fast break. Granted our coaches back in high school and college would probably make us run lines for doing it, it happens a lot in the NBA. More contested jumpers by the CPU would be nice, and pumping faking and drawing more fouls. NBA video game basketball talk 6 months out...uggg, makes me too anxious.

Same here Jr. Better players should start to be more aggresive when its clutch time. too many times i play and someone else is scoring points. I also want the cpu to actually try to shoot fast when the game is close and little time remaining. not dribble the time out and loose by 2 points! and hold up jr i have never seen a pull up 3 on a fast break! what games are you watching???? nba jamz???

You've never seen Wade, Kobe, Fisher, or Billups (to name a few) pull up for a spot up 3 on the break if they are open? Scottie Pippen was famous starting that trend.


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Jimmie Rutledge

Sent from Chesapeake, Virginia, United States

first off d wade has never been a 3pt shooter, kobe, dfisch and billups can cause they have the respect from a coach to do so but how often would they really pull up to shoot a three on a break?? are you sure you wasnt on the nba jamz development team???? lol

I must admit i played live again this year untill i got 2k9 and then i didn;t play live anymore. 2k9 is just much deeper and looks a lot better. Live has some advantages like the 365 feature, but when i started to see the same jumpers over and over again it started to piss me off a little. I will still buy live 10 caus eit comes out a moth earlier than 2k9 here where i live, but i probably will be playing 2k10 again next year over live.
I really don;t care about the arcs on the shots just the shots themselves. I think live has 10 to 20 different shottypes, while 2k9 has 200 or 300. creating a player is more fun and playing games seem more real even more real than the 365 feature. I love live still , but they need to step it up with more detailed moves and signature stuff in the game.

I AGREE WITH MCULBERSON 1000%. HE KNOWS WAT HE'S TLKIN ABOUT. CANT COUNT LIVE OUT 8 MONTHS B4 IT COMES OUT.

WTF!!!! 2K FANS ALWAYS THINK IS SOOOO GUD BUT THEIR GAME PLAY IS NOOOOOO BETTER THEN LIVES. COME ON I CAN SPIN N CIRCLES WITH A PLAYER WITHOUT HIS FEET TOUCHING THE GROUND. THEY ONLY HAVE GOOD GRAPHICS. SO STOP HATIN ON LIVE SO MUCH.

live seems to be on its way to competing again. even if live was a 10 gameplay this year, i wouldnt have been able to get into it with the generic shots after playing 2k basketball. but now, the field is open

same here. the improvements they make are nothing close to "IMPROVEMENTS". they include features that should be in an nba game, or a basketball game for that matter, by default!! no advertising should be required for something as simple as shot arcs.

NBA 2K forever as long as i play games!

While this is all fine and dandy. I will never purchase NBA Live again, no matter how many improvements they make. They burned the last bridge they had with me with 07. I will try the game out thru demo and friends, but as far as me buying it...that will NEVER happen again.
I personally emailed the staff at EA, and well as David Garder when he was there and got a response from Jon Long, maybe Ill give him a call, it was 650.628.xxxx ill have to find that card. I still have the email he sent as the one I sent Matt, Brent,Jon and Loren in Tech and Warrenty. Maybe I'll post it one of these days for you all to read. Ive been to EA Canada, and have most of the staffs business cards.
But Like I said the bridge is burnt. NBA 2k gets my money. Anyways..Between this site and OS you can find my on the OS forums(dif name), they seem to have more info. Pasta you need to stop by DigiPen one day, we're not too far from one another.

So basically you spent last year bashing Live 09 without even playing it? Wow bro, I thought you had played it. I actually respected your opinion. ;)

Developers have been posting on his blogs for at least a year now, maybe even longer.

When was it touted as a feature? I thought this was an update to an element they are putting into the game mechanics. Maybe its just me and the basic ability to grasp text. I dunno.

You also didn't know that this is one of the many things EA didnt figure out thatwas suppose to be in a BASKETBALL GAME!!

No need to knock any game before it's released. I have to admit, I haven't bought a game in the NBA Live series in a few years, because it has just paled in comparison to the 2K series. But I'm not going to start knocking the game in March for God's sake! It's nice to see the developers actually listening to gamers, and the fact that they are doing so so early in the development cycle means that what the gamers are looking for might actually be implemented in the game.

I'm always skeptical, but there's no need to knock the game. I remember a time when I wouldn't touch Sony's MLB series and now it's one of the best sports games of all-time. Just goes to "Show", pardon the pun, that anything is possible.

And, by the way, when you knock a game eight months before it comes out, you just sound like a fanboy. True gamers play the best games no matter who makes them. Here's to hoping BOTH 2K and NBA Live are great games next year!

I believe each game has their pros and cons to both games. I own both games, and play both games. I felt 2K took a step back in terms of fluidness this year and too much sliding. I'm not saying Live is without faults (God knows they have many of them) but that's one thing I always appreciated about 2K. The online for 2K was a killer for me at launch. Live 365 and DNA aren't gimmicks, they are part of a long term strategy.

Understand I follow both series, I purchase both series, I pay attention to the progression of each series and that's where I place most of my critique in. With appropriate sliders NBA Live has been enjoyable. Does it need improvement? Hell yes it does. Gameplay wise, it's not on par with 2K, but in terms of longetivity, Live has been the better purchase for me personally.

As I stated, I own both games, I purchase both. There are many things I like about both games, and many things I dislike. When sliders are put into play, I'm very satisfied with the way NBA Live plays. 2K out of the box has tons of animations which makes the game very appealing and adds little touches that makes you feel you're in the game. Just a matter of preference bro, but don't come on here with an end all be all type of opinion, because it really just makes you look like a troll. Before you rebute use some other line than the following:

"You're on EA's pay role"
"Mrs. Pasta Padre"
"EA Fanboy"
"Not a true gamer"
"Never played basketball in your life"
Etc.

Please use something original. Thanks :) Josh care to crack something new? Anyone see sdot lately?

Ok... JR testy arent we. lol.....At the end of the day Live is a dissapointment. And at the end of the day you dont see 2k having to hire any developers off of EA sports team to help revamp the game. My gripes with live is always with the gameplay. I'm not into things like dna 365 (and i add its a very good feature) or online play(other than downloads for immediate roster updates) I want better gameplay from either one of them!

live has been a joke for a while now!!! tHE ONLY REASON I HAD A DREAM CAST BACK IN THE DAYS WAS CAUSE OF 2K!

Wow, Pasta is stepping up having developers post on his blog. Although it happens to be for a terrible game that pales in comparison to 2K on every level. Live used to be about gimmicks, but now they have fallen off so bad that they have to resort to worn out ideas already implemnted by the other game. If you thought it neccessary to implement shot arcs that 2K has perfected, atleast add something new to the shot arc mechanic. Such as contested shots having a different trajectory than non contested ones which would mimic the players' sig style shots. The only hope that this franchise has is Beluba a.k.a. Mike Wang, but then again he cannot be the panacea for all the things wrong with this sorry franchise. 2K10 all the way!

fiba? and dna 365 are the reasons you liked live over 2k?? Intresting. This is why Live keeps putting this crap out! Guys Like you will buy it for gimmick features!

This has been in 2k since 2k7. live is lightyears behind. This should come standard in a basketball game. Wow what a joke!

Marcus what about bringing back the right analog stick to shot free throws? Just feels so unnatural using the shoot button after all these years to shoot free throws.