NCAA Football Heading Down Generic Path

by pastapadre
Posted June 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am

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Player names and how they are dealt with in EA Sports NCAA Football series has always been a sensitive subject. While there has been discussion over the years to reach agreement with the NCAA to allow names in that has not come to fruition. The last couple versions of NCAA Football have brought about some new community based features such as the EA Locker for roster sharing and Teambuilder. The Sam Keller lawsuit may or may not directly affect what happens with NCAA Football but it does seem to coincide with a move towards a more generic-rostered game. This especially considering the rosters found on Teambuilder that apparently are the final rosters shipping with the game.

While at E3 I asked whether the rosters from Teambuilder were final and was told that they were. Not realizing what a disaster they were at the time that was the answer I expected to get. So when I got back and tweeted about them being final I was surprised at the community reaction which was of frustration and disbelief. These rosters are hugely flawed with instances of teams that have no freshman or have players still on the team that graduated within the last few years. While I attempted to get double-verification that the rosters were final there has been no update on that which further solidifies the likelihood that they are.

It may be purely coincidental that this comes shortly after the Keller lawsuit was filed. However regardless of what happens with that it looks as though less effort is being put into making rosters accurate and more is being placed on the community to do it on their own.

The NCAA license however is still a few years away from expiring. Come that time though could EA be planning on letting the exclusive go and then pick up the license for less money? If they have to go more generic with the players that would surely affect sales and the value of that license. They may be thinking that no one else will be able to compete in this market by introducing another college game anyway. That is what happened with NCAA Basketball where 2K dropped out because they couldn’t afford the license leaving EA in a position to have the only college basketball game without having to pay the cost of tying it up exclusively. It would be a huge undertaking to create a new college football game from scratch. The question around how closely rosters can replicate real life will continue to have a big affect on these college games and it is something to continue monitoring.

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  • jorel
    NCAA Football has been out for how many years? Why has it taken so long for an NCAA athlete to ask for money? Haven't they been making these games based on real people since the start? Maybe with the increased graphics capabilities they look more like real life, but I'm more concerned with stats and attributes than how the 3-D models look.
  • teebeebee
    So this pretty much destroys any semblance of online play?

    If you have players that don't resemble their real life counterparts, why would you EVER want to use them online or in any manner

    NCAA is going to be shutdown i predict, this game won't exist within 2 years
  • Question:
    Will NCAA '10 have the EA locker for roster sharing? That plays a big part into whether I want the game or not.
  • My main concern (and maybe this has been addressed in a previous post, so I apologize) is did they fix the ridiculous online dynasty bugs? For example the commish being the only one who had players staying while the rest of the teams magically lost their players regardless if they said they would stay. I'm getting bored with NCAA because of their lack to work on the actual gameplay and bugs. I've been playing NCAA religiously for years now and because of that I've missed out on Madden. This might be the year I switch. Can we clarify the bugs?
  • They addressed that at E3 and in the blogs. It's been fixed.
  • Here is my thing about the TEAMBUILDER!! What is keeping people from creating OVER RATED TEAMS?? All those cheesers, I can just see them making everybody extrememly fast, catching everything, tackling out of control. That's what worries me the most about TEAMBUILDER.
  • Dcu
    I read a memo from a guy from ea that says that there doing there best to fix the rosters before July 14 ..... So I hope they get I done because I don't play NCAA without accurate rosters...
  • Sam Keller cannot win and this is just stupid. if anything i would be glad to have myself in a video game or even the LIKENESS of me. now getting rid of the numbers and ratings are just flat out ridiculous. i can understand gettin rid of EA locker but come on this is too far.....
  • ttengo
    The online Team Builder/Create a team is a step in the right direction. Granted it's still in Beta and has a few flaws but its heart is in the right place. Hopefully no longer will we rely on one person to name the entire field of players. I couldn't care less if EA decided to name every player Mickey Mouse 6-4 230 from LA, CA. The only thing I care about are the ratings.

    What I would like to see from the Team Builder site is the abilty to rate created teams so that we can most accurately assemble our own version of the NCAA FBS.
  • Zach
    At first I didn't like what Keller was doing but if it leads to EA giving up the exclusive rights to NCAA Football games I'm all for it, what do you think Pasta?
  • Hawkeye4077
    I'll give you that it's a step backwards, but if it comes about due to legal reasons, you can't really hold EA accountable. I don't disagree that it would suck to have generic players; I just don't think it should or would be a deal breaker. But then again, I'm a gameplay not a roster freak.
  • FSU seems fine to me. Hopefully all this stuff is cleared up soon.
  • FSU is okay because half the devs are FROM Florida State. That's why they're overrated almost every year.
  • BearFan
    Honestly Pasta, I don't see what you mean by generic, at least this year. I took a look at the teambuilder site and people like Tim Tebow, Christian Ponder, and Tyrod Taylor all seem correct to me. There is ALWAYS a slight problem with incoming freshman and the like in every NCAA, but when someone does the named rosters, it always seems correct to me, so no big deal, at least in NCAA 10.

    Have you confirmed that you're getting/ gotten an early copy for naming this year?
  • Why do poeple say such ridiculous things? I hope you're still playing All Pro to keep in mind how "great" 2K is.

    Also - this is like a Kenny Mayne interview. It's not serious.
  • Does anybody know when this sorry game's Demo is coming out??
  • westmemphis901
    This is just plain f**ked up. What's the point of playing online. A lot of people know abunch of players from different teams. I am not a Clemson fan but I know that CJ Spiller is a Senoir and number 28. If they have him as Freshmen with number 38 then that takes out the whole entire realism of the game. I am not going to buy this game when it first comes out. I am going to wait and see what people have say then buy it. The last 4 years I have bought NCAA on the first day it came out.

    This is just retarded, new roster guy....... You are not any good if you don't correct these changes by release date. You need to get fired.
  • Gmen world champs
    make sure when u press save it doesnt do it automatically u have to go back in pause a circle comes up and then it takes u to the next page
  • NVM I found out wht I was doing wrong I still got my teams all good now all good now. Thxs anyway tho for trying to help but I just screwed up on the log in screen lol.
  • NVM I found out wht I was doing wrong I still got my teams all good now all good now.
  • GamingHelpsMeExist
    Yeah I want be purchasing this. I want be purchasing FN R4 either. So, EA just lost $120 + taxes from me.
  • You "want be" purchasing this?

    So, you are?
  • Kobe
    so this mean 2k is getting the football license back? I hope so.
  • [youtube D9X73RLPe3E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9X73RLPe3E youtube]
    hes weird just watxh this interview
  • Gmen world champs
    I hate sam keller i hope someone rips the sleeve off and all his shit gets broken
  • [youtube D9X73RLPe3E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9X73RLPe3E youtube]
    hes weird just watxh this interview
  • I have been playing NCAA since the days of Playstation 1. Bill Walsh College Football for you younger guys. When I was in High School I would stay up countless hours putting rosters in myslef. I would get two or three NCAA Licensed Books and put each skill (QB, RB, WR, TE, CB, S, LB) player in for everyteam. I paid for rosters twice (CROOKS!!) and last year I used EA Locker (POST PATCH)!! If NCAA doesn't have rosters it will hurt tremendously. Think about all the League Daddy players who use those names for their leagues. NCAA day by day is becoming a killer for me. This used to be my favorite game because of the atmosphere and things, MADDEN is at the top of my list for this year. I might still buy NCAA, but it will only be to hold me over till MADDEN comes out. I might even trade it in for MADDEN. That's hurt me to say that though!!



    P.S. SAM KELLER IS A CHUMP!!! (I don't think he is the cause, but he certainly didn't help things out)
  • I think I may just be renting this game for the Madden draft class. Also don't know y but I made like 5 schools and they are all gone so I'm pretty pissed about that spent a lot of time on them.
  • PKC47
    I can see a few things coming down the pipe here. First, they add EA Locker so people can edit the rosters and share them (making them as accurate as they want). Second, they add the "Get Your Name In The Game" feature so you can get any name pronounce-able in the game. Now they can have more generic initial rosters so when suits like the Keller suit come up, EA can say, "We just make the game, it's the fans who make it accurate to real life." EA isn't liable for the player likenesses and they don't lose their fan base because true-to-life rosters are still attainable. Win-win.
  • EAhater
    Sam Keller is a freakin' douche man! Like he never played NCAA before....thanks alot idiot!!!
  • Gmen world champs
    YEA baby
  • Dr. Hardin Thicke
    Seriously...if there is no way to have real, named rosters via the EA Locker anymore, then that'll be the end for me. Hopefully we find out soon, cause I'll cancel my pre-order, and put the rest of that cash toward Madden. And...if Madden sucks, then...I'm S.O.L.
  • Pasta, how are you going to delete our comments flaming someone who cons people, and does worse than EA does?

    Damn dude, I had a lot higher opinion of you than that.
  • Dont know what you're talking about. I haven't deleted any comments.

    I see what you're saying now. For some reason not all the replies are expanding out. I'll look into why thats happening. All the comments are there but just not displaying for some reason.
  • Dont know what you're talking about. I haven't deleted any comments.
  • Ohh, ok. Cool.

    I apologize for the previous insult of insinuating you were in cahoots with Douchberg. ;)
  • Its weird. Sometimes IntenseDebate has hiccups like this. I saw them all expand out a few mins ago but not they're not again. It should iron itself out.
  • Its weird. Sometimes IntenseDebate has hiccups like this. I saw them all expand out a few mins ago but not they're not again. It should iron itself out.
  • Due
    This is a travesty, a sham, and a mockery. it's a Travestshamockery
  • Gmen world champs
    PASTA please comment- are you making a name roster for ea locker again
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