Quick Madden 10 Demo Thoughts

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Posted July 24th, 2009 at 7:24 am

troypint

Reaction to the demo for Madden NFL 10 thus far has fallen on the positive side. Well, at least that is the case for those who can actually get a feel for the game by having access to the extended demo. While I haven’t had a lot of time to dedicate playing the demo I wanted to drop some initial notes I took from running through it a few times and from thinking back to how it compares with the E3 build. Continue on to check out the impressions, screenshots, and video.

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The first reaction (as expected) from most people has been about the noticeable change in game speed. This is the same thing that happened back at E3. It catches you off-guard at first especially if you’ve been playing NCAA Football 10. However it doesn’t take long to get used to it and see the numerous benefits the more realistic speed provides. Slowing things down slightly ended up being one of the most praised changes for Madden while at E3.

Running, especially up the middle, remains difficult. It seems like the DTs penetrate the backfield on every run play. I had more success running to the outside. Later in the games I started to find some more room up the middle but my feeling from E3 stands. Passing offers much more reward because the run blocking is inconsistent. This ends up pushing towards the feeling that a passing-oriented offense is the way to go.

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The pass rush was a big topic of discussion at E3 and after when the Madden devs were working on tuning. Pash rush was primarily seen as a problem in user vs user games rather than games against the CPU. I haven’t played against another user yet to compare though I did notice that my team was not as capable at getting to the QB as the CPU was coming at me. The pass rush from the CPU seems consistent and strong. I found myself getting sacked quite a lot since routes weren’t developing as fast as they have in the past.

I was able to complete several deep balls on All-Pro which I don’t remember happening at E3. It didn’t really feel like they were being contested, as I was able to get my player under the location indicator and come away with a reception.

Because of the slower speed it seems more difficult to lead receivers, almost as if the ball floats for a period of time allowing the players opportunity to get to the spot early. There were some cases though where I was able to drop balls into tight spaces which is a very satisfying feeling.

In the cut scenes following “fight for the fumble”, challenges, and measurements the wrong teams are seen celebrating. For example I threw a questionable TD. The opposition challenged and it was reversed which took away the TD. However in the scene my players were celebrating while the opposing players appeared dejected. On Twitter I asked Ian Cummings whether they were able to get this fixed as it was pointed out back at E3. He stated it was corrected with either the final version of the game or with the release day patch.

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For the first time I saw refs confer to discuss whether a player crossed the goal line and it was not deemed to be a TD.

This is supposed to be the Super Bowl so why are the Cardinals treated as the home team by the crowd? There should be a neutral crowd for the SB.

I got a late hit in the video and flagged for unnecessary roughness which is a nice touch this year on close plays on the sideline. Blatant late hits aren’t possible though.

Not sure why but the CPU quick snaps on extra points. Not that there is much, if any, chance to block them but you don’t even have time to change the player you’re controlling. One of the best things about the player lock feature in NCAA Football is being able to reverse the camera when attempting to block kicks. At the very least it makes them more interesting and enjoyable to play through.

It’s going to be tough for those people who switch back and forth between NCAA Football and Madden this year. The controls are different for some functions, the play call screens are radically different, and the fast vs realistic game speed takes time to adjust to. I’m not sure I’ll be able to get completely comfortable with either as long as I’m playing both of them.

Overall Madden 10 remains very promising and the extended demo does a good job of displaying that. With the new presentational elements it has a fresh and exciting feel and the gameplay is clearly improved. Unlike NCAA everyone will notice the progress Madden has made there. Pro-Tak is a big part of that but so is the reduced game speed. If Online Franchise works as advertised then it is obvious the bulk of my gaming will go to Madden this year which hasn’t been the case in a long time.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

    I agree. I played the public demo and seeing Brandon Jacobs break arm tackles, stumble and keep his balance only to get tripped up was beautiful. The animations, some subtle, make the game…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

    I agree. I played the public demo and seeing Brandon Jacobs break arm tackles, stumble and keep his balance only to get tripped up was beautiful. The animations, some subtle, make the game…

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/omar_aponte omar_aponte

    I have a few comments on Madden10….the good..pass rushing was greatly improved with the addition of the right stick. Now I can move where I want and get 2 the ball carrier. They also changed the color of the ball locater in the passing game…easier to find the ball…the bad…why are the defenders still so hard 2 tackle but when you run the ball you barely get 2 yards? I know that offensive players tackle rating aint that high but neither are the defenders break tackle..just tired of seeing a CB break 3 tackles for a TD and W. Parker gettin hit for a loss…I also didn't think the demo presentation of the game was anything special. Its the SUPER BOWL!! Can we get player intros, like when the star QB intros the offensive or the commentator who gives us a player to watch. You have ESPN…use them!!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/omar_aponte omar_aponte

    I have a few comments on Madden10….the good..pass rushing was greatly improved with the addition of the right stick. Now I can move where I want and get 2 the ball carrier. They also changed the color of the ball locater in the passing game…easier to find the ball…the bad…why are the defenders still so hard 2 tackle but when you run the ball you barely get 2 yards? I know that offensive players tackle rating aint that high but neither are the defenders break tackle..just tired of seeing a CB break 3 tackles for a TD and W. Parker gettin hit for a loss…I also didn't think the demo presentation of the game was anything special. Its the SUPER BOWL!! Can we get player intros, like when the star QB intros the offensive or the commentator who gives us a player to watch. You have ESPN…use them!!

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/omar_aponte omar_aponte

    I have a few comments on Madden10….the good..pass rushing was greatly improved with the addition of the right stick. Now I can move where I want and get 2 the ball carrier. They also changed the color of the ball locater in the passing game…easier to find the ball…the bad…why are the defenders still so hard 2 tackle but when you run the ball you barely get 2 yards? I know that offensive players tackle rating aint that high but neither are the defenders break tackle..just tired of seeing a CB break 3 tackles for a TD while Willie Parker gets hit for a loss…I also didn't think the demo presentation of the game was anything special. Its the SUPER BOWL!! Can we get player intros, like when the star QB intros the offensive or the commentator who gives us a player to watch. You have ESPN…use them!!

  • http://www.intensedebate.com/people/omar_aponte omar_aponte

    I have a few comments on Madden10….the good..pass rushing was greatly improved with the addition of the right stick. Now I can move where I want and get 2 the ball carrier. They also changed the color of the ball locater in the passing game…easier to find the ball…the bad…why are the defenders still so hard 2 tackle but when you run the ball you barely get 2 yards? I know that offensive players tackle rating aint that high but neither are the defenders break tackle..just tired of seeing a CB break 3 tackles for a TD while Willie Parker gets hit for a loss…I also didn't think the demo presentation of the game was anything special. Its the SUPER BOWL!! Can we get player intros, like when the star QB intros the offensive or the commentator who gives us a player to watch. You have ESPN…use them!!

  • Shawn

    I have a question. I reserved the game for xbox 360 and I got a code to get the extended demo, but when I went to download the demo and I entered the code in the redeem code spot and downloaded the demo i got the crappy $H** 1:00 min Giants v Cowboys snow game…..WTF!!! Anyone know what I may have done wrong?

    • big mik

      Look in your game library, all games.
      you should see Madden Demo and Madden Exclusive Demo. I did the same shit and got real pissed till I figured it out.

  • Shawn

    I have a question. I reserved the game for xbox 360 and I got a code to get the extended demo, but when I went to download the demo and I entered the code in the redeem code spot and downloaded the demo i got the crappy $H** 1:00 min Giants v Cowboys snow game…..WTF!!! Anyone know what I may have done wrong?

    • big mik

      Look in your game library, all games.
      you should see Madden Demo and Madden Exclusive Demo. I did the same shit and got real pissed till I figured it out.

  • MastaJedi1

    Will there be another demo this thursday july 30th?

  • MastaJedi1

    Will there be another demo this thursday july 30th?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/itz_legititans itz_legititans

    i just want to say the demo with the cowboys and giants is garbage but the cards and pitt it is great

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/itz_legititans itz_legititans

    i just want to say the demo with the cowboys and giants is garbage but the cards and pitt it is great

  • airts24

    anyone wants in an online franchise, send me a message on xbox. airTS24

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/OrngFur23 OrngFur23

      hey who is your squad? i only want in if i can get my falcons.

  • airts24

    anyone wants in an online franchise, send me a message on xbox. airTS24

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/OrngFur23 OrngFur23

      hey who is your squad? i only want in if i can get my falcons.

  • footballgamer

    "This ends up pushing towards the feeling that a passing-oriented offense is the way to go."………Pasta, wasn't that the same with 09 and the previous "next-gen" madden games? I thought they said running would be fixed……now, I'm certain that I might be fooled again by EA sports.

  • footballgamer

    "This ends up pushing towards the feeling that a passing-oriented offense is the way to go."………Pasta, wasn't that the same with 09 and the previous "next-gen" madden games? I thought they said running would be fixed……now, I'm certain that I might be fooled again by EA sports.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/kcxiv kcxiv

    Same Piece of crap game. Its a little better, but i got bored of it fast. It just doesnt suck you in for some reason. Well, it didnt me. They need to make the oline less retarded. I love the game speed though. Thy slowed it down to 2K's pace which imo, is a great thing. Once they redo momentum and physics, the game will be worth 60 bucks, as of right now? PASSSSSS.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/kcxiv kcxiv

    Same Piece of crap game. Its a little better, but i got bored of it fast. It just doesnt suck you in for some reason. Well, it didnt me. They need to make the oline less retarded. I love the game speed though. Thy slowed it down to 2K's pace which imo, is a great thing. Once they redo momentum and physics, the game will be worth 60 bucks, as of right now? PASSSSSS.

  • Xavier

    haha you can still rocket catch n jet pack but its really hard to do so n who ever said that there is a lack of pass rush must not know how to rush the pass. its fairly easy to get a sack if u user a linemen or linebacker

  • Xavier

    haha you can still rocket catch n jet pack but its really hard to do so n who ever said that there is a lack of pass rush must not know how to rush the pass. its fairly easy to get a sack if u user a linemen or linebacker

  • holmester

    WTF? Larry Fitz and Boldin drop everything! This reminds me of 09 where Fitz would drop way too many balls and was not nearly as dominant as he should be. I mean in the demo Ike
    Taylor jams him for like the first 10 yards. Are you kidding me? Ike Taylor? Then when I get Fitz open Polamalu makes some physically impossible hit on his legs to make him flip and he drops the ball. I'm impressed with the presentation but thats about it. Im not even sure if I like this more then 09. This game needs some work.

  • holmester

    WTF? Larry Fitz and Boldin drop everything! This reminds me of 09 where Fitz would drop way too many balls and was not nearly as dominant as he should be. I mean in the demo Ike
    Taylor jams him for like the first 10 yards. Are you kidding me? Ike Taylor? Then when I get Fitz open Polamalu makes some physically impossible hit on his legs to make him flip and he drops the ball. I'm impressed with the presentation but thats about it. Im not even sure if I like this more then 09. This game needs some work.

  • Koach Vonner

    I personally love the demo thus far. I have read all of these post and so far about 80% of them are positive. Some of the complaints that I have heard are not that major to ne.
    1. No pass rush- I for one have had plenty of success sacking the QB. Play with your D-Lineman or LB and use the right thumb stick.
    2. Game Speed- it’s better for running the ball. However to my knowledge you can change it on the real version.
    3. The WR catch the ball in good situations. They drop it when covered. THAT’s Fine People!!!
    4. The cut schemes are ok. They could be better. However, be glad we have them at all.

    Overall the game is great. I’m so excited about the full version. This game had come so far in one year and I think we should all keep that in mind. Be happy!!

    • GBROWN4

      i AGREE

  • Koach Vonner

    I personally love the demo thus far. I have read all of these post and so far about 80% of them are positive. Some of the complaints that I have heard are not that major to ne.
    1. No pass rush- I for one have had plenty of success sacking the QB. Play with your D-Lineman or LB and use the right thumb stick.
    2. Game Speed- it’s better for running the ball. However to my knowledge you can change it on the real version.
    3. The WR catch the ball in good situations. They drop it when covered. THAT’s Fine People!!!
    4. The cut schemes are ok. They could be better. However, be glad we have them at all.

    Overall the game is great. I’m so excited about the full version. This game had come so far in one year and I think we should all keep that in mind. Be happy!!

    • GBROWN4

      i AGREE

  • fas carl

    I thought the damn demo came out thurday how you gents beable to play it now

  • fas carl

    I thought the damn demo came out thurday how you gents beable to play it now

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OrngFur23 OrngFur23

    Yo pasta, Love your page. Also love your objective opinions. Anyways, if your gonna start an online franchise on 360, is it too early to try to get in? I'm a hug ATL Falcons fan and would love to be in a Online franchise with you and some respectable others? What dou you think?

    • BIGMIK

      Im down!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OrngFur23 OrngFur23

    Yo pasta, Love your page. Also love your objective opinions. Anyways, if your gonna start an online franchise on 360, is it too early to try to get in? I'm a hug ATL Falcons fan and would love to be in a Online franchise with you and some respectable others? What dou you think?

    • BIGMIK

      Im down!

  • MastaJedi1

    After a full weekend with the M10 demo, M9 is history! Just 4 fun, I went back online w/M09 and my opponent quit after 2quarters. I was seeing things I never saw b4, So while Gamestop is offering, I think, 10% more on trade ins towards the purchase of M10, goota say goodbye to 09!

  • MastaJedi1

    After a full weekend with the M10 demo, M9 is history! Just 4 fun, I went back online w/M09 and my opponent quit after 2quarters. I was seeing things I never saw b4, So while Gamestop is offering, I think, 10% more on trade ins towards the purchase of M10, goota say goodbye to 09!

  • mac

    can't they speed it up just a little

    • BIGMIK

      dont worry! speed will be adjustable in the final version :)

  • mac

    can't they speed it up just a little

    • BIGMIK

      dont worry! speed will be adjustable in the final version :)

  • Rob

    So EA screws us again by not putting out a normal demo like NCAAF 10 has. I wanted to play this demo and see if they actually fixed the game. Obviously the pass defense has become worse than previous years yet again. It looks a lot lk NCAA pass defense, which is just horrible. EA can you actually fix the game by going back to the old gameplay like in 07 and 08, but fix all the cheese and glitches that were allowed.

  • Rob

    So EA screws us again by not putting out a normal demo like NCAAF 10 has. I wanted to play this demo and see if they actually fixed the game. Obviously the pass defense has become worse than previous years yet again. It looks a lot lk NCAA pass defense, which is just horrible. EA can you actually fix the game by going back to the old gameplay like in 07 and 08, but fix all the cheese and glitches that were allowed.

  • http://Michaelcoledesigns.com/ Mickey C

    Hey pasta. I watched your video. Are you worried that Larry Fitz could become like Randy Moss in Madden 08 (a.k.a unstoppable)? Given of course that Fitz doesn’t have Tom Brady throwing to him, But this could still cause a severe inbalance online. Thoughts? 

  • http://Michaelcoledesigns.com Mickey C

    Hey pasta. I watched your video. Are you worried that Larry Fitz could become like Randy Moss in Madden 08 (a.k.a unstoppable)? Given of course that Fitz doesn’t have Tom Brady throwing to him, But this could still cause a severe inbalance online. Thoughts? 

  • langx

    I don't care how many freebies EA invites you to.

    The speed of the game sucks. It's not something I want to get used to.

    Parker is stuck in mud. He has no speed in this game. Do you know speed has a lot to do with Football.

    Well we can thank EA for removing it.

  • langx

    I don't care how many freebies EA invites you to.

    The speed of the game sucks. It's not something I want to get used to.

    Parker is stuck in mud. He has no speed in this game. Do you know speed has a lot to do with Football.

    Well we can thank EA for removing it.

  • SenorDelgato

    Haha you got hit with an unnecessary roughness…thats awesome

  • SenorDelgato

    Haha you got hit with an unnecessary roughness…thats awesome

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Versa75 Versa75

    Does everyone else find the "black screen" between cut scenes annoying?! Is this just due to this being a demo?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Versa75 Versa75

    Does everyone else find the "black screen" between cut scenes annoying?! Is this just due to this being a demo?

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