Shooting in NBA Live 10

by pastapadre
Posted September 4th, 2009 at 1:41 pm

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EA Sports has posted up another blog entry detailing everything to do with the shooting mechanics in NBA Live 10 and what drives the success of each shot. The three main areas of focus that were considered with any changes had to do with control, balance, and authenticity. Included is an impressive tutorial video that displays much of what is discussed in the blog. You can check out the full posting and video here.

We’ve also completely done away with our ratings-based shot success calculation and are now driving all of our shooting percentages through Dynamic DNA. It’s a very complex heuristic which takes a lot of various factors into consideration. But the end result is picture perfect shot distribution and percentages. Needless to say, I’m really happy with the way shooting is balanced in Live 10. If you take the time to understand the strengths and weaknesses of your players, and properly balance your offensive attack, Live 10 will reward you.

Updating on the demo it is still expected to be out next Thursday September 10th for the 360 but it will not be out for the PS3 until September 17th. This seems to have become the trend with downloadable offerings as of late. Continuing on you can also check out the shooting tutorial video and a new gameplay video and leave your thoughts in the comments!

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X2KFootballGodX

Bottom line…Live blows.

EA Sports lures the unskilled, unethical kiddies to the cash register annually with marketing..bottom line.

EA relies on Hype Machines to sell their trashy games to the masses of moronic gamers…bottom line.

Pasta btw where is the story about Madden sales being trash?

Has Peter “the Pedo” Moore loosen your puppet strings enough for you to comment on that?

LMFAO!!!

EA is trash ………

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

LOL! dude has now clue what the definition of unethical means. The true definition of an uneducated rant.

X2KFootballGodX

Hey moron do you know what dishonorable means?

EA uses unethical buisness practices….so bottom line …If you buy their shitty products you support the underhanded dealings of EA……

I hate dumb EA Puppets who don’t know a thing about life *SMH*

Kudi

marketing your own product is an unethical business pracrice haha wtf i thought thats what you was supposed to do when you wanted to sell something?? im lost on this one this by far has to be the most funiest statment i seen on here so far lol gotta explain this one for real my g

X2KFootballGodX

Well kiddo, where do I start???
EA Pursued Exclusive licenses in every sport .Check

EA attempts to take the competition out with money not quality..Check

EA ripped off retired NFL players..and continues to do so.Check

EA Sports are all substandard products but they sell because of the weakminded, gullible masses whom couldn’t care less about the actual sport but are just automatons of the flash, logos and colors of the league which performs the sport..Check

EA attempted a hostile take over of the only sports competitor(2K Sports) to finally achieve the monopoly EA has wanted since 2000.Check

The Madden Hype Machine shows its ugly head about 5 to 4 months prior to release, so the gullible get lured in…Check.

EA knows the majority of common sports gaming morons only care about sports games with an ‘official’ seal on it..that is one reason why EA pursued exclusive licenses the other…they were getting their ass handed to them by 2K and it was only a matter of time before Madden became NBA Live…Check

EA Sports turned away UFC and basically told them MMA is a joke…Undisputed sells big time….EA now wants to try to cash in on the UFC fans with some bogus MMA game.Check.

EA Sports Lawyers and Lawyers with the NFLPA plotted to under sell HOF players in a scheme that would not only make EA the ‘Sponser’ of the NFL HOF but force 2K Sports out of the Legend buisness.Check

EA is trash..
Peter ‘The Pedo’ Moore is a tool of corporate greed…Pasta is just a puppet of EA marketing….

This blog is a joke..

Although there has been one bright spot this year…..Madden sales SUCK…

Good day kiddo….
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

First, EA didn't pursue the licenses. The licenses were up for bid, which EA won.

Second, no one told 2K that they had to stop making football games. As a matter of fact, they created All-Pro 2K8, which was basically the NFL 2K5 engine and no imagination. I would have thought that 2K would have taken advantage of the opportunity to do something innovative. Instead, 2K has done nothing but go into a downward spiral in regards to quality. Even the vaunted NBA 2K series (outside of the visuals) hasn't taken many steps forward. Not to mention 2K CHOSE not to make another college hoops game, they weren't forced out due to any contract.

I am a fan of good games regardless of who publishes them. EA gets way too much heat for things they have no control over. This year's batch of games have been some of EA's best offerings. FN4 is outstanding and Madden is leaps and bounds over last year. Regardless, it is all opinion but to say that EA is unethical is inaccurate.

As far as EA making an MMA game, I feel that they are doing what any business would do — cash in on what the market wants. I have no interest in any MMA game but if EA wants to create one, who cares.

Point being, you don't like EA don't buy the games. Reading your drivel is the biggest joke in this blog.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

First, EA didn't pursue the licenses. The licenses were up for bid, which EA won.

Second, no one told 2K that they had to stop making football games. As a matter of fact, they created All-Pro 2K8, which was basically the NFL 2K5 engine and no imagination. I would have thought that 2K would have taken advantage of the opportunity to do something innovative. Instead, 2K has done nothing but go into a downward spiral in regards to quality. Even the vaunted NBA 2K series (outside of the visuals) hasn't taken many steps forward. Not to mention 2K CHOSE not to make another college hoops game, they weren't forced out due to any contract.

I am a fan of good games regardless of who publishes them. EA gets way too much heat for things they have no control over. This year's batch of games have been some of EA's best offerings. FN4 is outstanding and Madden is leaps and bounds over last year. Regardless, it is all opinion but to say that EA is unethical is inaccurate.

As far as EA making an MMA game, they are doing what any business would do — provide the market what it wants. Economics 101 — Supply and demand. I have no interest in any MMA game but if EA wants to create one, who cares.

Point being, you don't like EA don't buy the games. Reading your drivel is the biggest joke in this blog.
X2KFootballGodX

My post didn’t show up so I will be brief kiddo….

Bottom line…EA lobbied for the exclusive license starting in 2K1 to include all sports you moron!!!!!!!!!!!!

EA paid big money to corner the licensed football market to block any and all
competition.

You are a gullible mook.

EA trash
Madden is trash
NBA Live is trash
Pasta is a puppet of mediocrity
Bottom line.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

And you are an out of work 2K developer….Thanks for playing…
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

good lord that was a good reply. LOL! But his hatred will not allow him to understand your points.
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

okay I take it back…. this has to be the dumbest most uneducated rant of any post i've seen on any topic.

By you logic alone you couldn't run a successful lemon aid stand.

You are truly mentally handicapped!
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Like I said an uneducated rant. It's easy to see this guy is absolutely clueless when it comes to advertising. He hates EA so there for he bashes but I don't get his ignorant us of unethical in the case of this game? LOL!

X2KFootballGodX

Bottom line…Live blows.

EA Sports lures the unskilled, unethical kiddies to the cash register annually with marketing..bottom line.

EA relies on Hype Machines to sell their trashy games to the masses of moronic gamers…bottom line.

Pasta btw where is the story about Madden sales being trash?

Has Peter “the Pedo” Moore loosen your puppet strings enough for you to comment on that?

LMFAO!!!

EA is trash ………

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

LOL! dude has now clue what the definition of unethical means. The true definition of an uneducated rant.

X2KFootballGodX

Hey moron do you know what dishonorable means?

EA uses unethical buisness practices….so bottom line …If you buy their shitty products you support the underhanded dealings of EA……

I hate dumb EA Puppets who don’t know a thing about life *SMH*

Kudi

marketing your own product is an unethical business pracrice haha wtf i thought thats what you was supposed to do when you wanted to sell something?? im lost on this one this by far has to be the most funiest statment i seen on here so far lol gotta explain this one for real my g

X2KFootballGodX

Well kiddo, where do I start???
EA Pursued Exclusive licenses in every sport .Check

EA attempts to take the competition out with money not quality..Check

EA ripped off retired NFL players..and continues to do so.Check

EA Sports are all substandard products but they sell because of the weakminded, gullible masses whom couldn’t care less about the actual sport but are just automatons of the flash, logos and colors of the league which performs the sport..Check

EA attempted a hostile take over of the only sports competitor(2K Sports) to finally achieve the monopoly EA has wanted since 2000.Check

The Madden Hype Machine shows its ugly head about 5 to 4 months prior to release, so the gullible get lured in…Check.

EA knows the majority of common sports gaming morons only care about sports games with an ‘official’ seal on it..that is one reason why EA pursued exclusive licenses the other…they were getting their ass handed to them by 2K and it was only a matter of time before Madden became NBA Live…Check

EA Sports turned away UFC and basically told them MMA is a joke…Undisputed sells big time….EA now wants to try to cash in on the UFC fans with some bogus MMA game.Check.

EA Sports Lawyers and Lawyers with the NFLPA plotted to under sell HOF players in a scheme that would not only make EA the ‘Sponser’ of the NFL HOF but force 2K Sports out of the Legend buisness.Check

EA is trash..
Peter ‘The Pedo’ Moore is a tool of corporate greed…Pasta is just a puppet of EA marketing….

This blog is a joke..

Although there has been one bright spot this year…..Madden sales SUCK…

Good day kiddo….
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

First, EA didn't pursue the licenses. The licenses were up for bid, which EA won.

Second, no one told 2K that they had to stop making football games. As a matter of fact, they created All-Pro 2K8, which was basically the NFL 2K5 engine and no imagination. I would have thought that 2K would have taken advantage of the opportunity to do something innovative. Instead, 2K has done nothing but go into a downward spiral in regards to quality. Even the vaunted NBA 2K series (outside of the visuals) hasn't taken many steps forward. Not to mention 2K CHOSE not to make another college hoops game, they weren't forced out due to any contract.

I am a fan of good games regardless of who publishes them. EA gets way too much heat for things they have no control over. This year's batch of games have been some of EA's best offerings. FN4 is outstanding and Madden is leaps and bounds over last year. Regardless, it is all opinion but to say that EA is unethical is inaccurate.

As far as EA making an MMA game, I feel that they are doing what any business would do — cash in on what the market wants. I have no interest in any MMA game but if EA wants to create one, who cares.

Point being, you don't like EA don't buy the games. Reading your drivel is the biggest joke in this blog.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

First, EA didn't pursue the licenses. The licenses were up for bid, which EA won.

Second, no one told 2K that they had to stop making football games. As a matter of fact, they created All-Pro 2K8, which was basically the NFL 2K5 engine and no imagination. I would have thought that 2K would have taken advantage of the opportunity to do something innovative. Instead, 2K has done nothing but go into a downward spiral in regards to quality. Even the vaunted NBA 2K series (outside of the visuals) hasn't taken many steps forward. Not to mention 2K CHOSE not to make another college hoops game, they weren't forced out due to any contract.

I am a fan of good games regardless of who publishes them. EA gets way too much heat for things they have no control over. This year's batch of games have been some of EA's best offerings. FN4 is outstanding and Madden is leaps and bounds over last year. Regardless, it is all opinion but to say that EA is unethical is inaccurate.

As far as EA making an MMA game, they are doing what any business would do — provide the market what it wants. Economics 101 — Supply and demand. I have no interest in any MMA game but if EA wants to create one, who cares.

Point being, you don't like EA don't buy the games. Reading your drivel is the biggest joke in this blog.
X2KFootballGodX

My post didn’t show up so I will be brief kiddo….

Bottom line…EA lobbied for the exclusive license starting in 2K1 to include all sports you moron!!!!!!!!!!!!

EA paid big money to corner the licensed football market to block any and all
competition.

You are a gullible mook.

EA trash
Madden is trash
NBA Live is trash
Pasta is a puppet of mediocrity
Bottom line.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

And you are an out of work 2K developer….Thanks for playing…
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

good lord that was a good reply. LOL! But his hatred will not allow him to understand your points.
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

okay I take it back…. this has to be the dumbest most uneducated rant of any post i've seen on any topic.

By you logic alone you couldn't run a successful lemon aid stand.

You are truly mentally handicapped!
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Like I said an uneducated rant. It's easy to see this guy is absolutely clueless when it comes to advertising. He hates EA so there for he bashes but I don't get his ignorant us of unethical in the case of this game? LOL!

gbrown4

anybody bored with madden yet?

Afroman

Nope…and Live is looking very HOT!!!

gbrown4

anybody bored with madden yet?

Afroman

Nope…and Live is looking very HOT!!!

Werth

Ball is clearly way too small for the net
Werth

Ball is clearly way too small for the net
http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

It looks very crisp but I'm concerned about two things: I don't like the way they dribble the ball and the way they move too. On some sequences some players look like they're skating. Weird…
http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

It looks very crisp but I'm concerned about two things: I don't like the way they dribble the ball and the way they move too. On some sequences some players look like they're skating. Weird…
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I know this is a little thing, and I am almost ashamed to mention it, but the nets in Live still look terrible. They look too thick or something at the top and appear cartoon-ish if that makes sense.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I know this is a little thing, and I am almost ashamed to mention it, but the nets in Live still look terrible. They look too thick or something at the top and appear cartoon-ish if that makes sense.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I know this is a little thing, and I am almost ashamed to mention it, but the nets in Live still look terrible. They look too thick or something at the top and appear cartoon-ish if that makes sense.

But I will say the visuals look pretty damn good. I flipped on the Spurs – Heat video and for a second I thought it was video from a real game thinking that there would be a comparison between Live's visuals and an actual game. Hard to deny that Live is looking much better.

I haven't purchased an NBA game since 2002, partly because the NBA sucks and is boring, but this may be the year I breakdown and get one. I will most likely rent both first….Both games offer something different so it is hard to go wrong with either choice….Which is a great thing for gamers…

AI3

I also thought that it was a real when it first started the video. I thought i was the only one.

AI3

I also thought that it was real when it first started the video. I thought i was the only one. I haven't made my choice yet because i haven't seen 2k. I guess I have to wait for the demo.

http://www.intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

I know this is a little thing, and I am almost ashamed to mention it, but the nets in Live still look terrible. They look too thick or something at the top and appear cartoon-ish if that makes sense.

But I will say the visuals look pretty damn good. I flipped on the Spurs – Heat video and for a second I thought it was video from a real game thinking that there would be a comparison between Live's visuals and an actual game. Hard to deny that Live is looking much better.

I haven't purchased an NBA game since 2002, partly because the NBA sucks and is boring, but this may be the year I breakdown and get one. I will most likely rent both first….Both games offer something different so it is hard to go wrong with either choice….Which is a great thing for gamers…

AI3

I also thought that it was a real when it first started the video. I thought i was the only one.

AI3

I also thought that it was real when it first started the video. I thought i was the only one. I haven't made my choice yet because i haven't seen 2k. I guess I have to wait for the demo.

http://intensedebate.com/people/Staffan54 Staffan54

Where are all the info on 2K10 so we can start to compare?
http://intensedebate.com/people/Staffan54 Staffan54

Where are all the info on 2K10 so we can start to compare?
http://www.facebook.com/antwuan Antwuan Malone

Game looks fat. Might be nit picking, but I'd like to see the net/rim physics play out a little better. And there is a bit more of the live roboticness… but for a second there, the game look REALLY good. Gotta see how it feels now. Sounds like this year we will be getting used to new controls.

Live is WELL underway. i might get both games this year. Next year, 2K better bring cause Live is def on their heals!

Chris

What are you talkin about "next year 2K better bring it"? 2K will bring it THIS YEAR! You haven't seen any 2K10 gameplay yet so what are you talkin about? Live looks good this year & I might buy it but 2K will be great & an automatic purchase!

http://www.facebook.com/antwuan Antwuan Malone

Game looks fat. Might be nit picking, but I'd like to see the net/rim physics play out a little better. And there is a bit more of the live roboticness… but for a second there, the game look REALLY good. Gotta see how it feels now. Sounds like this year we will be getting used to new controls.

Live is WELL underway. i might get both games this year. Next year, 2K better bring cause Live is def on their heals!

Chris

What are you talkin about "next year 2K better bring it"? 2K will bring it THIS YEAR! You haven't seen any 2K10 gameplay yet so what are you talkin about? Live looks good this year & I might buy it but 2K will be great & an automatic purchase!

Anonymous

we are not offended by the thought that it could be good. I would be happy with two great games to let the people choose. And I'll admit, live has made strides. but the only thing is that these strides should have been made like 4 years ago. I mean they are now just adding features that have been in nba 2k since 2k5.

Lets just take a look at the cycle of next-gen for EA:

1. NBA Live 06: Completely stripped down version with only play now, season mode and practice mode. IGN review: 5.9
2. NBA Live 07: Added a few things, but still a bad game with framerate issues and glitches. IGN review: 6.0
3. NBA Live 08: Added some more minor stuff, but still a badly reviewed game. IGN: 6.9
4. NBA Live 09: Bring in Mike Wang and finally get some fundamental basketball features in the game. Was a solid basketball game but was still missing a lot: IGN: 6.5

Now lets look at 2k's cycle:
1. NBA 2k6: Ported over the ps2 version with every single feature and updated graphics and was as great as the ps2 version. IGN: 7.8
2. NBA 2k7: Just like 2k7, but with some better gameplay and more signature animations and shots,and slightly improved graphics. IGN: 8.3
3. NBA 2k8: Better overall, but not as good as 2k7, could be attributed to the departure of Mike Wang. IGN: 7.9
4. NBA 2k9: The best of the PS3/360 generation by far. Gamers had mixed reviews, but game sites gave it solid ratings across the board. IGN: 8.5.

So you tell me which is better. EA failed to break the 7/10 barrier, while 2k has had solid high 7's and mid 8's out of 10.
http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

we are not offended by the thought that it could be good. I would be happy with two great games to let the people choose. And I'll admit, live has made strides. but the only thing is that these strides should have been made like 4 years ago. I mean they are now just adding features that have been in nba 2k since 2k5.

Lets just take a look at the cycle of next-gen for EA:

1. NBA Live 06: Completely stripped down version with only play now, season mode and practice mode. IGN review: 5.9
2. NBA Live 07: Added a few things, but still a bad game with framerate issues and glitches. IGN review: 6.0
3. NBA Live 08: Added some more minor stuff, but still a badly reviewed game. IGN: 6.9
4. NBA Live 09: Bring in Mike Wang and finally get some fundamental basketball features in the game. Was a solid basketball game but was still missing a lot: IGN: 6.5

Now lets look at 2k's cycle:
1. NBA 2k6: Ported over the ps2 version with every single feature and updated graphics and was as great as the ps2 version. IGN: 7.8
2. NBA 2k7: Just like 2k7, but with some better gameplay and more signature animations and shots,and slightly improved graphics. IGN: 8.3
3. NBA 2k8: Better overall, but not as good as 2k7, could be attributed to the departure of Mike Wang. IGN: 7.9
4. NBA 2k9: The best of the PS3/360 generation by far. Gamers had mixed reviews, but game sites gave it solid ratings across the board. IGN: 8.5.

So you tell me which is better. EA failed to break the 7/10 barrier, while 2k has had solid high 7's and mid 8's out of 10.
Anonymous

Alright here is the final verdict: And I'll admit, live has made strides. but the only thing is that these strides should have been made like 4 years ago. I mean they are now just adding features that have been in nba 2k since 2k5.

Lets just take a look at the cycle of next-gen for EA:

1. NBA Live 06: Completely stripped down version with only play now, season mode and practice mode. IGN review: 5.9
2. NBA Live 07: Added a few things, but still a bad game with framerate issues and glitches. IGN review: 6.0
3. NBA Live 08: Added some more minor stuff, but still a badly reviewed game. IGN: 6.9
4. NBA Live 09: Bring in Mike Wang and finally get some fundamental basketball features in the game. Was a solid basketball game but was still missing a lot: IGN: 6.5

Now lets look at 2k's cycle:
1. NBA 2k6: Ported over the ps2 version with every single feature and updated graphics and was as great as the ps2 version. IGN: 7.8
2. NBA 2k7: Just like 2k6, but with some better gameplay and more signature animations and shots,and slightly improved graphics. IGN: 8.3
3. NBA 2k8: Better overall, but not as good as 2k7, could be attributed to the departure of Mike Wang. IGN: 7.9
4. NBA 2k9: The best of the PS3/360 generation by far. Gamers had mixed reviews, but game sites gave it solid ratings across the board. IGN: 8.5.

So you tell me which is better. EA failed to break the 7/10 barrier, while 2k has had solid high 7's and mid 8's out of 10.

Tim C.

Good post and it's great that you brought up past reviews from gaming sites to back up your opinion. You are correct sir, for the past 3 yrs the NBA 2K Series has drawn more favorable reviews than LIVE which clearly shows that EA is behind and has been inferior to the competition. Although there are some visual areas that Live looks nice, it's all about the gameplay and still, to me, it does not look as smooth or realistic as the gameplay in 2K9 even thought we are talking about LIVE 10…

Kudi

idk y ppl keep calling the stuff they put in the game features only time i heard him say feature was the freestyle passing, and offball control mechanics everthing else was described as gameplay enhancments improvemnts in the area in which the series was lacking im pretty sure thats how it was said. anyways that post means nothing really you can keep postings all those game site reviews its not going to discourage ppl from buying the game they like to play it all just comes down to this simply if you like 2k then buy 2k if u like live then buy live stop posting these past game reviews cause i dont see the point of it your really just wasting your time in my opinion.

Tim C.

He is just stating that according to the past reviews by game experts, 2K Basketball has been better than LIVE so for those who think LIVE has been the better basketball game, then you are in the minority.

Kudi

game experts yea those ppl are paid to write up reviews on games it doesn't mean that what they say goes it all comes down to what you as a gamer likes to play what intrest you more some perfer 2k others perfer live it is what it is. yea the numbers on live have been bad according to those sites but again that not thats just ppl doing there job and just because those ppl thought it was bad doesn't mean other ppl would think so. i always think you as a person/gamer should judge a game soley on what you think of it yourself wheter you rent the game or play a demo not judging the game on what some so called gaming "experts" say or based off of past versions of a game i mean thats just lame all around
Anonymous

thanks for supporting my post man. atleast someone on this site is intelligent. I was never attacking a game, i was just posting the truth. If EA had gone the ps2-port to 360 way, then nba live would be a much better game today.
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

what the hell is a game expert dude, are you serious. Are you talking about some one who reviewed a game I doubt they'd put anymore time in past having to play it for review. A review is based on ones opinion and taste. I just think you should be the judge, try the demo's and base things from there not a review or game score.
Anonymous

yea i have tried the demos of both every year off xbox live marketplace. And i was stuck with nba live 06 back in 2005 because it came with my amazon xbox 360 bundle on launch day. That was probably the emptiest basketball game every made. (it did have sick graphics though).

http://intensedebate.com/people/Staffan54 Staffan54

Final verdict before the game is released?…before the demo is released?

This is a thread about Live 10.
Not 06.
Not 07.
Not 08
Not 09.
Is that really difficult to understand?

I have great difficulties understanding posts like this.
Are you afraid of something? Afraid of good competitions between 2 games?

Most of us buy both games and want 2 good games.

IGN…?!

Kudi

very well put couldn't have said it any better i for one bu both games i couldn't care less cause at the end of the day im usually playing both games because i like what they both have to offer. nice touch on the part where you talk about that this is a NBA Live 10 thread not an 06, 07, 08, 09. that always gets me how ppl keep refering to past games like give it a rest i dont see the point really it does seem in some way that some of these ppl are afraid of competition because for the first time in a while it seems that live is finally ready to compete with 2k on some level because this year the game looks very good/decent and some ppl just fail to see that but o well at the end of the day we are gonna have to great basketball games to play come Oct 6 cant wait to get my hand on NBA Live 10 and NBA 2k10….
Anonymous

I was just saying that EA should have ported the ps2 version onto the 360 back in 2005. I got nba live 06 with my 360 bundle when i bought it in november 05 and was very disappointed.

If they had done that, just like 2k ported 2k6, then nba live would be just as great as 2k today.

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Why are you stuck in the past, man?

Anonymous

because it is the truth and you know it? thats why.

If EA had followed 2k's path, instead of starting from scratch, then live would have been a much better game. Same goes for Madden. EA's "start from scratch for next-gen" strategy failed and they even know it. Why would they take two great games in NBA Live 06 on PS2 and Madden on PS2, and then start all over? it makes no sense?
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

why would EA need to follow 2K's path when they obviously aren't going in the same direction or even trying to. If they had we wouldn't likely have Dynamic DNA today, and let it be known the it was 2k that followed EA's lead on this one.

cropduster

Mike Wang did not work on 09, please get your facts straight. he said himself he got there during mid production of live 09 and didn't make a imprint on the game at all.

Anonymous

alright well thats not my point anyway. the game is still missing a lot with or without mike wang.

Anonymous

Alright here is the final verdict: And I'll admit, live has made strides. but the only thing is that these strides should have been made like 4 years ago. I mean they are now just adding features that have been in nba 2k since 2k5.

Lets just take a look at the cycle of next-gen for EA:

1. NBA Live 06: Completely stripped down version with only play now, season mode and practice mode. IGN review: 5.9
2. NBA Live 07: Added a few things, but still a bad game with framerate issues and glitches. IGN review: 6.0
3. NBA Live 08: Added some more minor stuff, but still a badly reviewed game. IGN: 6.9
4. NBA Live 09: Bring in Mike Wang and finally get some fundamental basketball features in the game. Was a solid basketball game but was still missing a lot: IGN: 6.5

Now lets look at 2k's cycle:
1. NBA 2k6: Ported over the ps2 version with every single feature and updated graphics and was as great as the ps2 version. IGN: 7.8
2. NBA 2k7: Just like 2k7, but with some better gameplay and more signature animations and shots,and slightly improved graphics. IGN: 8.3
3. NBA 2k8: Better overall, but not as good as 2k7, could be attributed to the departure of Mike Wang. IGN: 7.9
4. NBA 2k9: The best of the PS3/360 generation by far. Gamers had mixed reviews, but game sites gave it solid ratings across the board. IGN: 8.5.

So you tell me which is better. EA failed to break the 7/10 barrier, while 2k has had solid high 7's and mid 8's out of 10.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

Alright here is the final verdict: And I'll admit, live has made strides. but the only thing is that these strides should have been made like 4 years ago. I mean they are now just adding features that have been in nba 2k since 2k5.

Lets just take a look at the cycle of next-gen for EA:

1. NBA Live 06: Completely stripped down version with only play now, season mode and practice mode. IGN review: 5.9
2. NBA Live 07: Added a few things, but still a bad game with framerate issues and glitches. IGN review: 6.0
3. NBA Live 08: Added some more minor stuff, but still a badly reviewed game. IGN: 6.9
4. NBA Live 09: Bring in Mike Wang and finally get some fundamental basketball features in the game. Was a solid basketball game but was still missing a lot: IGN: 6.5

Now lets look at 2k's cycle:
1. NBA 2k6: Ported over the ps2 version with every single feature and updated graphics and was as great as the ps2 version. IGN: 7.8
2. NBA 2k7: Just like 2k7, but with some better gameplay and more signature animations and shots,and slightly improved graphics. IGN: 8.3
3. NBA 2k8: Better overall, but not as good as 2k7, could be attributed to the departure of Mike Wang. IGN: 7.9
4. NBA 2k9: The best of the PS3/360 generation by far. Gamers had mixed reviews, but game sites gave it solid ratings across the board. IGN: 8.5.

So you tell me which is better. EA failed to break the 7/10 barrier, while 2k has had solid high 7's and mid 8's out of 10.
http://www.intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

Alright here is the final verdict: And I'll admit, live has made strides. but the only thing is that these strides should have been made like 4 years ago. I mean they are now just adding features that have been in nba 2k since 2k5.

Lets just take a look at the cycle of next-gen for EA:

1. NBA Live 06: Completely stripped down version with only play now, season mode and practice mode. IGN review: 5.9
2. NBA Live 07: Added a few things, but still a bad game with framerate issues and glitches. IGN review: 6.0
3. NBA Live 08: Added some more minor stuff, but still a badly reviewed game. IGN: 6.9
4. NBA Live 09: Bring in Mike Wang and finally get some fundamental basketball features in the game. Was a solid basketball game but was still missing a lot: IGN: 6.5

Now lets look at 2k's cycle:
1. NBA 2k6: Ported over the ps2 version with every single feature and updated graphics and was as great as the ps2 version. IGN: 7.8
2. NBA 2k7: Just like 2k6, but with some better gameplay and more signature animations and shots,and slightly improved graphics. IGN: 8.3
3. NBA 2k8: Better overall, but not as good as 2k7, could be attributed to the departure of Mike Wang. IGN: 7.9
4. NBA 2k9: The best of the PS3/360 generation by far. Gamers had mixed reviews, but game sites gave it solid ratings across the board. IGN: 8.5.

So you tell me which is better. EA failed to break the 7/10 barrier, while 2k has had solid high 7's and mid 8's out of 10.

Tim C.

Good post and it's great that you brought up past reviews from gaming sites to back up your opinion. You are correct sir, for the past 3 yrs the NBA 2K Series has drawn more favorable reviews than LIVE which clearly shows that EA is behind and has been inferior to the competition. Although there are some visual areas that Live looks nice, it's all about the gameplay and still, to me, it does not look as smooth or realistic as the gameplay in 2K9 even thought we are talking about LIVE 10…

Kudi

idk y ppl keep calling the stuff they put in the game features only time i heard him say feature was the freestyle passing, and offball control mechanics everthing else was described as gameplay enhancments improvemnts in the area in which the series was lacking im pretty sure thats how it was said. anyways that post means nothing really you can keep postings all those game site reviews its not going to discourage ppl from buying the game they like to play it all just comes down to this simply if you like 2k then buy 2k if u like live then buy live stop posting these past game reviews cause i dont see the point of it your really just wasting your time in my opinion.

Tim C.

He is just stating that according to the past reviews by game experts, 2K Basketball has been better than LIVE so for those who think LIVE has been the better basketball game, then you are in the minority.

Kudi

game experts yea those ppl are paid to write up reviews on games it doesn't mean that what they say goes it all comes down to what you as a gamer likes to play what intrest you more some perfer 2k others perfer live it is what it is. yea the numbers on live have been bad according to those sites but again that not thats just ppl doing there job and just because those ppl thought it was bad doesn't mean other ppl would think so. i always think you as a person/gamer should judge a game soley on what you think of it yourself wheter you rent the game or play a demo not judging the game on what some so called gaming "experts" say or based off of past versions of a game i mean thats just lame all around
http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

thanks for supporting my post man. atleast someone on this site is intelligent. I was never attacking a game, i was just posting the truth. If EA had gone the ps2-port to 360 way, then nba live would be a much better game today.
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

what the hell is a game expert dude, are you serious. Are you talking about some one who reviewed a game I doubt they'd put anymore time in past having to play it for review. A review is based on ones opinion and taste. I just think you should be the judge, try the demo's and base things from there not a review or game score.
http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

yea i have tried the demos of both every year off xbox live marketplace. And i was stuck with nba live 06 back in 2005 because it came with my amazon xbox 360 bundle on launch day. That was probably the emptiest basketball game every made. (it did have sick graphics though).

http://intensedebate.com/people/Staffan54 Staffan54

Final verdict before the game is released?…before the demo is released?

This is a thread about Live 10.
Not 06.
Not 07.
Not 08
Not 09.
Is that really difficult to understand?

I have great difficulties understanding posts like this.
Are you afraid of something? Afraid of good competitions between 2 games?

Most of us buy both games and want 2 good games.

IGN…?!

Kudi

very well put couldn't have said it any better i for one bu both games i couldn't care less cause at the end of the day im usually playing both games because i like what they both have to offer. nice touch on the part where you talk about that this is a NBA Live 10 thread not an 06, 07, 08, 09. that always gets me how ppl keep refering to past games like give it a rest i dont see the point really it does seem in some way that some of these ppl are afraid of competition because for the first time in a while it seems that live is finally ready to compete with 2k on some level because this year the game looks very good/decent and some ppl just fail to see that but o well at the end of the day we are gonna have to great basketball games to play come Oct 6 cant wait to get my hand on NBA Live 10 and NBA 2k10….
http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

I was just saying that EA should have ported the ps2 version onto the 360 back in 2005. I got nba live 06 with my 360 bundle when i bought it in november 05 and was very disappointed.

If they had done that, just like 2k ported 2k6, then nba live would be just as great as 2k today.

http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

Why are you stuck in the past, man?

http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

because it is the truth and you know it? thats why.

If EA had followed 2k's path, instead of starting from scratch, then live would have been a much better game. Same goes for Madden. EA's "start from scratch for next-gen" strategy failed and they even know it. Why would they take two great games in NBA Live 06 on PS2 and Madden on PS2, and then start all over? it makes no sense?
http://intensedebate.com/people/jonathanglapion jonathanglapion

why would EA need to follow 2K's path when they obviously aren't going in the same direction or even trying to. If they had we wouldn't likely have Dynamic DNA today, and let it be known the it was 2k that followed EA's lead on this one.

cropduster

Mike Wang did not work on 09, please get your facts straight. he said himself he got there during mid production of live 09 and didn't make a imprint on the game at all.

http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

alright well thats not my point anyway. the game is still missing a lot with or without mike wang.

http://www.facebook.com/fedepacheco Federico Pacheco

I'm organizing a Fantasy Football League on ESPN. The link to access is the following: http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/leagueoffice?leagueI… It's called Costa Rica League. Eveyboody is invited to join.
http://www.facebook.com/fedepacheco Federico Pacheco

I'm organizing a Fantasy Football League on ESPN. The link to access is the following: http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/leagueoffice?leagueI… It's called Costa Rica League. Eveyboody is invited to join.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

No one is saying 2K is a bad basketball game and it has earned its stripes. I think the biggest thing going on is that Live is gaining ground. Again, this is good for gamers. I don't care if people hate EA or not, two good titles is great for us. OPTIONS…Something we don't have much of any more.
http://intensedebate.com/people/Skihawks Skihawks

No one is saying 2K is a bad basketball game and it has earned its stripes. I think the biggest thing going on is that Live is gaining ground. Again, this is good for gamers. I don't care if people hate EA or not, two good titles is great for us. OPTIONS…Something we don't have much of any more.
sdot

dis ish is FUNNY LIVE who has BIN TRAILIn & is STILL TRAILIN havin FANS sayin 2K betta step up

wut DIFF does it make if Live closes da GAP if dey STILL LOSE da RACE

so now instead of gettin blown out dey made it competitive BUT @ DA END OF DA DAY itz jus another (L) in da BOOKS

ADVANTAGE 2K EASE

Anonymous

yup
Josh

Live 10 will close the gap with 2K7! LOL!

Kudi

as much as u tried to make a sarcastic remark about live 10 u just gave it a compliment if live 10 will close the gap with 2k7 dont u think thats a good thing lol last time i checked 2k7 was the last time 2k was hot so if live will close the gap there then the devs are doing one hell of the job dont u think? lol

sdot

dis ish is FUNNY LIVE who has BIN TRAILIn & is STILL TRAILIN havin FANS sayin 2K betta step up

wut DIFF does it make if Live closes da GAP if dey STILL LOSE da RACE

so now instead of gettin blown out dey made it competitive BUT @ DA END OF DA DAY itz jus another (L) in da BOOKS

ADVANTAGE 2K EASE

http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

yup
Josh

Live 10 will close the gap with 2K7! LOL!

Kudi

as much as u tried to make a sarcastic remark about live 10 u just gave it a compliment if live 10 will close the gap with 2k7 dont u think thats a good thing lol last time i checked 2k7 was the last time 2k was hot so if live will close the gap there then the devs are doing one hell of the job dont u think? lol

r00tabaga

1st off…people, stop writing 400 word essays! I get through two sentences and I'm like wtf?!?! Live "supporters" don't bash the 2k posts…it's the 2k fanboys who take the time to write about how "WAHHHH, 2K'S HAS THAT FOR YEARS! etc etc" for every single posittive comment about EA's game. Grow up!

Anonymous

you can't deny the truth and you know it so how about you grow up!

r00tabaga

wow, great return…I feel SOOOOOOOO stale right now! You've been getting blasted on every one of your posts & I'd hang up my "cleats" if I were you. Everything you say gets dumber and dumber and makes you look younger and younger.

r00tabaga

1st off…people, stop writing 400 word essays! I get through two sentences and I'm like wtf?!?! Live "supporters" don't bash the 2k posts…it's the 2k fanboys who take the time to write about how "WAHHHH, 2K'S HAS THAT FOR YEARS! etc etc" for every single posittive comment about EA's game. Grow up!

http://intensedebate.com/people/deepen03 deepen03

you can't deny the truth and you know it so how about you grow up!

r00tabaga

wow, great return…I feel SOOOOOOOO stale right now! You've been getting blasted on every one of your posts & I'd hang up my "cleats" if I were you. Everything you say gets dumber and dumber and makes you look younger and younger.

J-Kits

The audio is actually great…Still a 2k'er tho, LATA
J-Kits

The audio is actually great…Still a 2k'er tho, LATA
sdot

r00t NO SUBLIMES say who U talkin 2 CAN'T b me

NO WAY u see me type NO DAM essay I AIN'T even do dat ish 4 school wen it was mandatory

SAY HIS NAME

pglapjr

get a life dude

sdot

r00t NO SUBLIMES say who U talkin 2 CAN'T b me

NO WAY u see me type NO DAM essay I AIN'T even do dat ish 4 school wen it was mandatory

SAY HIS NAME

pglapjr

get a life dude

Mike

Any info about international teams list ??
Mike

Any info about international teams list ??
SteezyWonder

It’s looking ALOT better than 09. I’m glad to see they are making strides. I always root for Live but they have forced me to buy 2K the past…4 years. Still some jerky, strange movements but they’re headed in the right direction.
SteezyWonder

It’s looking ALOT better than 09. I’m glad to see they are making strides. I always root for Live but they have forced me to buy 2K the past…4 years. Still some jerky, strange movements but they’re headed in the right direction.
TreyIM2

Pasta – The demo is dropping Sept. 10th for BOTH the PS3 and 360 according to Mike Wang and a press release. Please make sure that what u said is correct.

http://www.easports.com/media/play/feature-podcas…
http://www.easports.com/blogs/nbalive/inthepaint/…
TreyIM2

Pasta – The demo is dropping Sept. 10th for BOTH the PS3 and 360 according to Mike Wang and a press release. Please make sure that what u said is correct.

http://www.easports.com/media/play/feature-podcas…
http://www.easports.com/blogs/nbalive/inthepaint/…
Blindtheskies

Live 10 is ridiculous. You get rewarded for knowing your players and teams, yet there isn't a mode to practice with your team or those specific players that aren't already in the practice arena. Even in the video tutorial, he had to do stuff to the game itself to get to be alone, and to practice… So, how do we get to know the rest of the teams without jumping right into game mode? For those who want to try and learn all aspects of their teams offense, the only option is to actually play a game? No practice? Who programmed this, Allen Iverson? Practice?!?!?!
Blindtheskies

Live 10 is ridiculous. You get rewarded for knowing your players and teams, yet there isn't a mode to practice with your team or those specific players that aren't already in the practice arena. Even in the video tutorial, he had to do stuff to the game itself to get to be alone, and to practice… So, how do we get to know the rest of the teams without jumping right into game mode? For those who want to try and learn all aspects of their teams offense, the only option is to actually play a game? No practice? Who programmed this, Allen Iverson? Practice?!?!?!