SCEA Discusses Target Field for MLB 10
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Kotaku has posted up an article discussing the process behind putting in a new stadium for a game when said game comes out before the season even begins. MLB 10: The Show will be facing that dilemma with the opening of Target Field for the Minnesota Twins. Check out the full article here.
A new stadium takes up roughly 60 megabytes of space on a game disc, but building one takes nearly four months of work, according to Shawn Robles, the lead environment artist, and Jody Kelsey, the senior producer, for Sony’s MLB The Show franchise. Their studio began preparing for an in-game version of Target Field as soon as they knew it was being built – ground was broken in August 2007 – but the bulk of their construction will come in this game’s development cycle, as construction on the stadium nears completion.
This was an interesting subject last year with CitiField and Yankees Stadium as the development teams for MLB The Show and MLB 2K were forced to work off early sketches and dimensions and had to make some guesses as to aesthetics because the teams would not allow them to see the finished plans or product.
Of course all of this is is pointless when a company makes changes to stadiums just to increase ad placement such as was seen in MLB 2K9 with the increased height of the left field wall in Nationals Park and the addition of a billboard in the center field of Wrigley. Hopefully 2K Sports has learned from that blatant disregard for accuracy and for the disrespect shown towards consumers who expect it.
October 17, 2009 at 9:44 pm
They did a good job with the yankee stadium. also as a nats fan, i had to go back and see what you are talking about. SMH at them for doing that. but i didn't even notice it. like I said, they will do a good jab. the game is so sick.
October 17, 2009 at 9:46 pm
JUST PLEASE FIX THE ONLINE and the game will be so freaking incredible..!!!
October 17, 2009 at 11:46 pm
That's what has been holding the game back from being great unfortunately. They don't seem to care about online.
October 18, 2009 at 1:39 pm
I agree but the game is such a solid single-player experience, I could really care less….
October 17, 2009 at 10:14 pm
thanks pasta, one of the few games I can play year round
October 17, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Is that diagonal thing in Right-Center supposed to be some modern looking seats or something? Looks weird.
October 17, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Yet another thread throwing dirt on 2k….Pasta you my friend are pathetic. Did SCEA pay you to say that or is EA paying you besides giving you free games to bask 2K…..
Why don't you write an article about how EA is lying to the customers with Madden or how weak NBA live is after a few weeks. Because you play online with your other bookworm friends does not mean Live is a good game. The gameplay is garbage and broken but yet you do not call EA out…Of course not…You would then have to buy your own games….You do not even look like you ever picked up a ball for any sport…Stick to movie reviews
October 17, 2009 at 10:53 pm
You've obviously never seen what he is talking about. Why couldn't NCAA football do this for minesota's new stadium. This makes me seriously question their work ethic
October 17, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Couldn't have said it better, but everyone knows by now that pasta is an EA troll.
October 17, 2009 at 11:44 pm
lol at the 2k fanboys to the rescue. no excuses for the crap they pulled last year and they deserve to be called out on it.
October 18, 2009 at 1:26 am
Yep. That was a decent write up until Pasta decided to interject his bias into it by unnecessarily trashing 2K. The writeup was on creating a stadium before a game has been played in it. What does advertising have to do with that process? Answer? Nothing. Just Past bias, 2K trashing, and all unnecessary. If you want to talk about in game advertising, then you should show it on both sides Pasta, but that wasn't your goal. Your goal was to trash, plain and simple.
October 18, 2009 at 4:29 am
Ummm…to those calling Pasta an EA troll, did you guys actually play MLB 2K9? They intentionally added things to the stadiums just to increase ad space. I am a diehard Cubs fan and couldn't believe that State Farm billboard stuck in the outfield beyond the wall at Wrigley.
The fact that SECA is trying to be as true to reality is just one part of what sets their baseball game apart from 2K's effort.
October 18, 2009 at 4:48 am
yeah man there was no reason for tht bullshit and 2k was a dahm home run derby contest
October 17, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Exactly, I've always wondered why this guy likes to bash on 2k so much, I mean think about it, when is the last time you heard this guy say anything good about 2k? (don't worry,I'll wait)…………..and don't give me that bulls#$t about him doing the same to EA, its like everytime he hits on something negative about live(or any other EA game, for that matter) he adds something sweet to it. And yeah I know its his site, before some of you guys with the "pasta points" go nuts cause I said something about daddy boy, but this is MY computer, in MY home, and I'M entitled to MY opinion. I just expected more from a site that reviews games but tends to have some grudge against one company. So give me all the negative thumbs down you want, gotta get them pasta points. Peace
October 17, 2009 at 11:45 pm
is that what the PP thing is next to my name.. pasta points. i thought it was pasta post or somethin ….
October 18, 2009 at 4:47 am
Frank, I gave your post a Thumps Up…you are entitled to your opinion for sure.
I just want to know if you have played MLB 2K9 and saw what Pasta talks about in regard to adding things to stadiums that don't exist, just so ads can be placed there. EA games have ads, but they don't alter the height of an outfield wall just to get them in.
I don't have a problem with him posting negative things about 2K's game, basically because the games deserve it. But he also posted negative things about EA and their issues. Perhaps you remember the fallout that lit up this site after news broke about NCAA football's rosters being messed up? He didn't sugar coat that…
October 19, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Seriously dude, when has 2k put out a sports game that was worthy of praise. MLB2k8 was a complete mess, broken in fact. MLB2k9 was a terrible game as well. Your obvious 2k fanboydom has clouded your judgement and your ability to employ common sense. There is no debate when it comes to video game baseball. MLB the show is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the competition and that is just plain facts.
2k has consistantly demonstrated over the past couple of years a downward trend in game creativity and more importantly Quality. Both NHL and NBA franchises wallow in mediocrity and just cant innovate any more. There lesser sports titles like boxing and tennis are largely forgettable as well. Bottom line is this. Pasta calls 'em like he sees 'em. You may not agree but that hardly means that pasta has an agenda. 2k is simply a failing company who exists merely by reputation alone and that reputation is tarnished beyond repair. Once you fanboys come to grips with that instead of geeking out over some EVIL EMPIRE b/s in EA SPORTS, the happier you will be.
October 17, 2009 at 11:55 pm
that was so ridiculous by 2k last year that they would change the parks so they could fit more ads. then the game came out and was terrible. so hope that ms puts out a mlb game sooner than later
October 19, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Its not rediculous. Its called survial. 2k is a failing company that needs the additional revenue to bring you fanboys your poor quality games each year. If you had a clue you would understand that. Being the fanboys that you are you should applaud 2k for doing what is necessary to be able to continue to bring you your low quality games each year, but in typical ignorant fashion, you fanboys take issue with something that is so irrelevant and a fact that you had no idea about until you read about it. Grow up people.
October 17, 2009 at 11:58 pm
It is sad that some people want 2K to be able to get away with anything. I for one and many others appreciate that Pasta is willing to step up regardless of the company where no other sites will because they are scared of damaging the perks they get.
October 18, 2009 at 1:22 am
This site should just be called http://www.2KSportsBash.com. You seem incapable of writing an article without trashing them in some way Pasta. If you want to talk about blatant Advertisement, nothing beats the champions of marketing over at EA. They have put marketing where it doesn't belong (snickers bar on the coin flip in Madden anyone???) for years, far surpassing anything 2K has ever done.
October 17, 2009 at 6:32 pm
after 2k9 and FOM they deserve to be bashed in every article. The marketing in Madden is a bit ridiculous though – the Snickers and Chompetition stuff doesn’t bother me as much as the random McDs or MTV ads before plays.
October 18, 2009 at 1:54 am
damn hahah i saw that shit the last game i play, how cheap is ea and madden
October 18, 2009 at 2:44 am
There have been no alterations to a stadium to provide extra space for advertising in another other game. No one minds advertising, but you can't claim to be a sim game that replicates baseball and then change something as sacred as the stadiums that games are played in.
October 20, 2009 at 7:13 am
What I pointed out is that you are targeting 2K Sports, like you do in most of your commentary. Like I said, your comments had nothing to do with the articles premise, it was just tacked on venom. You could have left out the comments entirely, or pointed out the problems with multiple games, not just 2K Sports (which is part and parcel of your writing).
October 20, 2009 at 7:16 am
One other thing. It might be minor, but how many years did EA forgo the coin toss in Madden for the snickers bar? Both games altered the simulation aspect of the game. One removed something entirely (the coin toss – Madden) and the other added something unrealistic (MLB – stadiums). Both are bad / wrong. You constantly highlight 2K Sports issues while materializing EAs. Your misleading readers.
October 18, 2009 at 4:49 am
Those Snickers ads in Madden don't make the goal posts 10 feet higher, do they?
October 20, 2009 at 7:11 am
Nope, but they don't have anything to do with a coin toss either.
October 18, 2009 at 1:27 am
I wanna say EA blows…but time and time again, they come out with decent games. I wish their was competition to make EA work harder. TCF in NCAA 10 is generic and still announced as "The metrodome". REALLY?!
October 18, 2009 at 3:34 am
is that picture from mlb 10? or no?
October 18, 2009 at 4:25 am
That is not an in-game shot its computer generated.
October 18, 2009 at 6:37 am
computer generated by who though? like is this what the shows stadium will look like or no?
October 18, 2009 at 2:11 pm
this is what the stadium looks like, its actually pretty much completed now.
October 18, 2009 at 4:12 am
Pasta why dont they get a way that if a player is hurt and on IR or the DL for whatever game they make a way that they can all be there like i want to do an exibition as the mets and have to search single a for jose reyes- players like sean McHugh for the steelers shouldnt be removed from the game because they are on IR Sean McHugh is going to start next year for the Steelers so why cant he be number 56 and have like 75 but make it so the top 53 are active that would be sweet
October 18, 2009 at 4:41 am
I find it hard to believe people still back 2K's baseball game…I admit, I purchased it. I had to, since I only had a 360 at the time. However, in less than a month, I sold it away and will never purchase a 2K Sports product again.
The game's quality (or lack thereof), plus the insanity that took place at their forums following the release (their inability to say for sure if a much-needed final patch would come out, etc.), have driven me away from their once-superior products. I saw no redeeming quality in MLB 2K9, except maybe Thorne and Phillip's commentary. Other that that, MLB 2K9 was trash. I then picked up a PS3 that came with MLB 09 The Show…what a night and day difference. I still play it and have NCAA Football, Madden, TW, etc. Usually, the baseball video game is put away and forgotten at this time of the year, but I can't get enough.
October 18, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Well said! I agree with everything you stated.
October 18, 2009 at 4:41 am
There are EA products that disappoint (for me, that would be NCAA Basketball 08, this season's Tiger Woods' career mode, and some issues with both NCAA Football 10 and Madden 10), but 2K's sports products have seen a precipitous decline in recent history. That, along with the fact that completely shut down my favorite series (College Hoops), has essentially finished off 2K as a player in sports gaming (except for NBA, but it seems the gap may be closing).
October 18, 2009 at 4:50 am
bring back college hoops 2k series and 2k stays alive and they can drop mlb and then someone else can make it
October 18, 2009 at 5:56 am
They dropped College Hoops because there aren't enough consumers interested in college basketball games. I predicted one game would have to go two weeks before it happened. The potential sales just aren't enough to support two games.
October 17, 2009 at 10:52 pm
LMFAO!!!!! Pasta has already been exposed as an EA Sports Conveyor Belt operator long ago…He likes to sugar coat the exposed trash that EA spews out annually but to no avail…only his moronic butt-buddies who love EA’s cornhole agree with his shoddy reviews…..Bottom line…EA is trash…EA Sports games are for the pick up and play masses of skilless morons who just want to jump on a game and bomb away and think they are actually good. EA Sports = Trash.
MLB 09 The Show= just an excuse for PS3 Fanboys to legitimize their shoddy choice in a gaming system(Oversized Dusty Blu-Ray Player). The Show is not better than MLB 2K9…bottom line…it’s just that 2K9 has a steep learning curve that these kiddies just cannot grasp…Bottom line.
October 18, 2009 at 5:58 am
This has to be one of the funniest comments ever. Bravo!
October 18, 2009 at 6:35 am
lmao! great comment…i think its hilarious but i just dont know if i agree 100% with your thinking about the show and 2k baseball…like the show has its ups and downs and 2k does to but i think that there are more positives to the show than there are to 2k. honestly i think that if 2k would fix their glitches and come up with less cartoonish looking graphics then it has a shot at being as good as the show. but to compare 2k9 and 09 the show i think is hard because of the show having their create a player mode and just overall a smoother gameplay. not to mention the eye candy. but i will have to say that i think ea sports is junk! the only somewhat decent game that they produce is nhl. other than that they are garbage games. but great comment overall man.
October 18, 2009 at 12:52 pm
LOL All your cred went out the door when you jumped on the 2K baseball bandwagon. What a joke!!
October 18, 2009 at 3:02 pm
"The Show is not better than MLB 2K9…bottom line"
That quote speaks for itself…simply amazing. According to Metacritic:
MLB 09 The Show for PS3 – 90
MLB 2K9 for 360 – 64
"…it's just that 2K9 has a steep learning curve that these kiddies just cannot grasp…"
Haha…awesome. In an online league in 2K9, I remember winning a game against my opponent by some ridiculous score – something like 35-20. All runs were scored via the home run. That's showing some true difficulty there.
October 18, 2009 at 5:13 pm
You're right – there is a steep learning curve with the multiple workarounds needed to have a good experience with 2k9 so no I'd prefer to not grasp it…. Bottom Line
With that said if you are referring to the analog pitching then yes I'd like to see that in the Show. I would expect that it would actually be responsive though.
October 18, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Agreed…there was a steep learning curve to figure out what the oddly-named sliders meant.
Hold Timing Influence?
AI Pitcher Handedness Influence?
Gesture Recognition?
October 18, 2009 at 7:07 am
Pastas site pastas rules GTFO out haters….at least he's actually doing something worthwhile and helpful bringing us sport games updates so what if theres a lil bias I haven't seen any review site with bias! Pasta pays the bills so he can trash whatever video game house he wants faggets.
October 18, 2009 at 1:15 pm
What a bunch of 2K Fanboys whining away! The important info from this article was that Sony is hinting that there will be Classic Stadiums in MLB 10. That and fixing their online play is what I have been waiting for. Let's focus on the important things people!
This is one of the things 2K got right with MLB 2K7, was the add-on content of Classic Stadiums. They were done VERY well, and I hope Sony takes a page from them. I would like all those stadiums as well as Ebbets Field and a Classic 1961 Yankee Stadium. We dont need cookie cutter stadiums with no character like Candlestick, Three Rivers, and the late '60s and early '70s genre.
October 20, 2009 at 1:11 pm
You can't expect readers to stay focused when the writer strays.
October 18, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Pasta,
I know it is WAAAAYYY early but do you know if they are going to add any classic stadiums, teams, etc. next year? To me, that is the one thing that I would like SCEA add. To be able to use some of the great teams from the past would add something.
It would be cool to use the old two division per league set up with no wildcard…
October 18, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Look at all the guys coming to defend pasta, even nice enough to give em a few thumbs up everytime he says something. And @pharrell1, who the fuck are you to tell someone to go elsewhere, who cares whos site this is, YOU GTFO! the moment it gos live its everyones site. When I'm in MY home, on MY pc, I go wherever I damn well please, believe that! Now as far as everyone calling pasta biased, THE MAN IS! (IMO), so calling someone a 2k fanboy isn't going to change their mind about it, Definitaly Not Mine! I just so happen to own madden so I guess that makes me a EA/2K fanboy? Lol at the "pasta points" comment earlier(funny as hell), these guys will say anything for their precious points, i wouldn't rule out kissing pastas ass for em, i hope to set a record for thumbs down on this one tho, if its free, i'll take three.
October 18, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I could are less about the points system on this site…plus, isn't that tied to the Intense Debate system anyway, so it's not just for comments left at this site but at any other that uses Intense Debate?
And whether Pasta is biased or not, has he lied? Did 2K increase the size of the Nationals Park wall to add advertising and place a non-existent billboard in the outfield at Wrigley?
Yes…yes they did.
No matter if he favors EA or not, he's not making things up…
It's his site and can share his opinion just like you and I can.
October 18, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I could are less about the points system on this site…plus, those points are tied to the Intense Debate system anyway, so it's not just for comments left at this site but at any other that uses Intense Debate.
And whether Pasta is biased or not, has he lied? Did 2K increase the size of the Nationals Park wall to add advertising and place a non-existent billboard in the outfield at Wrigley?
Yes…yes they did.
No matter if he favors EA or not, he's not making things up…
It's his site and can share his opinion just like you and I can.
October 18, 2009 at 8:45 pm
I could are less about the points system on this site…plus, those points are tied to the Intense Debate system anyway, so it's not just for comments left at this site but at any other that uses Intense Debate.
And whether Pasta is biased or not, has he lied? Did 2K increase the size of the Nationals Park wall to add advertising and place a non-existent billboard in the outfield at Wrigley?
Yes…yes they did.
No matter if he favors EA or not, he's not making things up…
I do agree with you…even though It's his site, we should be able to come here if we want and share our opinion, no matter if we agree with Pasta or not.
October 18, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I could are less about the points system on this site…plus, those points are tied to the Intense Debate system anyway, so it's not just for comments left at this site but at any other that uses Intense Debate.
And whether Pasta is biased or not, has he lied? Did 2K increase the size of the Nationals Park wall to add advertising and place a non-existent billboard in the outfield at Wrigley?
Yes…yes they did.
No matter if he favors EA or not, he's not making things up…
And I do agree with you…even though it's his site, we should be able to come here if we want and share our opinion, no matter if we agree with Pasta or not.
October 19, 2009 at 5:03 am
Pasta sucks there you happy?
October 19, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Personally, I would like to see SCEA put something in the game that comes close then maybe patch the actual stadium in when the season starts since they will have a pretty solid idea as to what the stadium will look like.
I hope that they include classic stadiums, including the Metrodome. I was never a fan of baseball indoors but the HHH MD had some personality, especially the baggy…