NCAA Basketball 10 Demo Impressions

by pastapadre
Posted November 5th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

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Generally it takes a few times through to get a good feel for a sports game from a demo. However because of the similarities to NBA Live 10 the demo for NCAA Basketball 10 comes across as ultra accessible and familiar. Naturally much of what my impressions entail will be comparisons and contrasts between the two EA basketball games. Featured in the demo is a five minute half with North Carolina @ Duke with the CBS presentation package.

The demo is structured well enough to get a good feel for the game. Five consecutive minutes allows for getting in the flow of the action and a handle on any new features. Options wise EA has included the ability to change difficulty levels and camera angles. You can also set the tempo and motion offenses for the team before starting the game.

The first thing I noticed is that there is much more spacing in NCAA vs Live. The court feels bigger and the players are smaller. That makes the motion offense and passing in general less frustrating than has been found in Live. The game doesn’t feel as sloppy because turnovers are a little less prevalent, though forcing the CPU into them happens with relative ease.

I’ve never been much into running set plays in basketball games however the motion offense makes it much more natural to actually run an offense. Just tapping the LB gets the motion going and the Y button pops up over the players to pass to. Multiple passing options will eventually show up. I didn’t even need to practice the motion offense. In my first game I was running it and finding it beneficial. That in itself makes motion offense a big success as any new core feature really needs to be accessible to catch on.

Having spent 60% of the development time on the network presentation packages it is immediately evident that it adds to the enjoyment of the games. The presentation provides the feel and the emotion that people associate with the games they’ve watched on CBS. The commentary is much better in the demo than has come across in the few videos that have been released to date. There is less dead air and the emotion of Gus Johnson translates well when playing the game.

The overlays such as the Top 25 or Conference Records disappear way too quickly though. With how fast they go through them its almost like they were added just to contribute to the feel of the presentation instead of being up for the user to actually take note of.

Surprisingly one aspect of the demo I have come away disappointed with is the crowd noise. Much has been made of the home court advantage but the crowd does not react strongly. While certainly active they don’t come across exceedingly loud and reactions to events on the court don’t differentiate enough. A big three or a steal doesn’t get the roar you would expect compared to the consistent noise they are making. I don’t feel intimidated by the crowd in the way same way I do when playing Live even with the screen shake in NCAA. Compared to NBA Live 10 where the atmosphere is arguably the best ever for a sports game it just doesn’t match up.

I’m finding there to be more fouls on contact than in Live 10 and the players seem to be able to maneuver better to avoid it. However as I got more settled into the game I’ve been able to force the CPU into many contact influenced shots which severely reduces the likelihood they will go in. While there are some fouls being called and more ‘and ones’ on those it still seems to be the best strategy to contest shots by forcing contact.

Fast breaks seem better represented in NCAA. That may be due to the tempo or the ability to create more backcourt turnovers but whatever the reason it feels like you can force the issue and take advantage of mistakes better. In that regard the game feels slightly more balanced than Live.

While the game does come across less sloppy than Live I did find there to be flurries of turnovers. I was able to nudge the CPU pretty often while near the sidelines to force the animation where they lose the ball. The CPU also on a few occasions committed back court violations on accident and passed to players who were standing out of bounds. I also had trouble distinguishing the difference between a reaction scene to a turnover and anything else such as a timeout. The emotion being displayed doesn’t always tell the story.

I prefer the outside court in NCAA to the “Hangar” in Live for a couple reasons. The first is the loading time which I suspect will be much less in NCAA. The “Hangar” caused long load times in Live and it was accessed too often between modes. The outdoor court lacks the video screens which have proven to be more of an annoyance than anything in Live and you only need one player to shoot around with as opposed to the eight that Live includes in the gym.

Because of the familiarity with the controls and mechanics I’ve found NCAA Basketball 10 to have provided one of the better sports demo experienes I’ve played. The game really comes across well because of the fresh presentation and accessibility of the motion offenses. It is a shame that the PS3 won’t see the demo until after release because it is actually good enough to sell the game. While I still have doubts as to long term interest with the absence of an Online Dynasty it looks like NCAA will offer an enjoyable gameplay experience.

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  • JohnZapp
    November 5, 2009 at 10:16 pm
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    I love this game since I played the demo!!!!!! I love the gameplay youhave a good feel to it better than live. Totally a must buy I think. Ea has my money

  • JohnZapp
    November 5, 2009 at 10:17 pm
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    First!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • NELL86
    November 5, 2009 at 10:17 pm
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    Atleast EA got they act right with one sport they should just give up on madden i see no coming back after this garbage no patch can fix this

    • hawkeye4077
      November 5, 2009 at 11:56 pm
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      Exclusive rights kills quality. It's not an EA thing, it's a business thing. If the tables were reversed and it was 2K with exclusive rights for the past 5 years, the game would suck just as bad. Remember that 2K5 which everybody hails as this great game came out with Madden as a target. They even cut the price in half to really stick it to EA. Live has improved because of one reason – NBA 2k.

      • TreyIM2
        November 6, 2009 at 12:54 am
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        Exclusivity killing quality is not true, at all. There is more behind the scenes than most know.

        • Pete
          November 6, 2009 at 1:42 am
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          Please Trey provide us with some "behind the scenes" information.

          • TreyIM2
            November 6, 2009 at 3:58 am

            Lol. I knew someone would pull that one….but I don't need to provide you with some "behind the scenes" information. Learn to read and understand when people do talk about the cycles, time lines, pressure/stress, budget, marketing and what the execs and stockholders want, yada instead of when people talk about "EA SUCKS!!" or, even, "Exclusivity rights kill quality" and whatever else people with emotional responses may run off at the lips/finger tips about then want to run with that childish info and repeat it to the next person or more people. It's not as simple as people who have never dealt with the corporate world and corporate structures think.

            Oops, I guess I just did I explain some of "behind the scenes" information and that's not just EA. Look at 2K's mess of a NBA2K10 that really didn't even address the main issues that plague it's game play. Is there comp there? Yes. So why is the game so buggy/glitchy on top of lack of fixing main gameplay issues?

            U ok with my explanation, "Pete"?

  • greg
    November 5, 2009 at 10:30 pm
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    loving the demo

  • @Pharrell1
    November 5, 2009 at 10:42 pm
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    its a must buy!

  • Skihawks
    November 5, 2009 at 11:25 pm
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    The demo is awesome….The visuals are a major upgrade over previous renditions…Things I liked:

    1) The CBS presentation is outstanding and the commentary is much better than I have heard in any previous gameplay videos…The updates on the top 25 rankings as well as conference standings is a great tough. Not to mention the realistic overlays….One of the best presentations I have seen in any hoops game.

    2) The uniforms look accurate, especially the size of the numbers

    3) The animations are excellent, straight out of Live

    4) The controls are solid…Feels good to PLAY again…

    I agree with Pasta that the atmosphere almost feels muted a bit…Also, I am not sure if others had issues, but there were certain points during the game in which the game would freeze briefly…

    All-in-all, this is a day one purchase for me…

    • JohnZapp
      November 6, 2009 at 12:44 am
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      i found the nets realistic in game. thats just me

      • TreyIM2
        November 6, 2009 at 12:56 am
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        People get too used to the over animation of the NBA2K nets and think that the nets in, even, Live 10, are stiff. Not so but I have yet to check this demo and won't until the damn 19th. Sheesh.

        • Skihawks
          November 6, 2009 at 7:23 pm
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          I like the way Live's nets move….It is a ticky tack thing, I know…I own both systems…This demo is damn sweet…

    • @Pharrell1
      November 6, 2009 at 12:45 am
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      Same here

      I thought my xbox360 was about to ring ring when it would freeze for a second. Im glad Im not the only one expiereincing freezing in the demo.

      • eaallday79
        November 6, 2009 at 7:53 am
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        yeah thats a relief i thought something was wrong wit my xbox but then again it did that wit live demo

  • Ramen Padre
    November 6, 2009 at 12:06 am
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    "I’ve never been much into running set plays in basketball games however the motion offense makes it much more natural to actually run an offense."

    No wonder why Pasta is a EA fanboy! You cant play arcade style in 2k10 lol.

    • TreyIM2
      November 6, 2009 at 1:01 am
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      Here you go with the lameness. I side with Pasta on this one. I NEVER ran offensive plays in NBA2K and would mostly rely on pick and rolls and isolations with MUCH success. Live 10 FORCES u to mix up your plays and use play calling to be truly successful and expect NCAA10 to be no different…although I WON'T get to play the demo until AFTER the game comes out since I own a PS3. Gotta love money-hats. MS bought their limited exclusives to sports game demos from EA and 2K. I ain't mad at that because it's business but I am mad at that because I have to wait to test drive this puppy. I may just buy it since I have to pickup Assassin's Creed 2 the day NCAA 10 drops. I'll see what my money has to say about that, in the moment.

      • gallandro
        November 8, 2009 at 4:30 pm
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        Agreed. I NEVER have to run set plays in NBA2K10… pick n' rolls and isomotion are enough to get easy buckets on 2K (and this is from a long time 2K Sports fan). The Suns have an easy money play that works almost every time… take Nash at the top of the key and drive straight into the lane… stop at the freethrow line and retreat back to the top of the key… Stoudamire will run up from behind into the lane toward the bucket… then simply pas to Stat… almost a dunk every time.

        At least Live makes me work for shots.

  • pastapadre
    November 6, 2009 at 12:08 am
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    Actually if you watched my videos it was really easy for me to score in 2K10 just running pick and rolls. I have to work for successful possessions in Live.

    • JohnZapp
      November 6, 2009 at 12:46 am
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      I agree pasta the game is really fun with the play calling. never been addicted to this before in my life!

    • okafor43
      November 6, 2009 at 12:00 pm
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      Agree pasta almost automatic to score on a pick and roll in 2k, when you do riun plays in 2k it takes them 30 seconds to get in position and by the time you start the shot clock has run down. Havent played live yet waiting for 18th to get it and college.

  • cory
    November 6, 2009 at 2:09 am
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    Has anyone heard if they are going to have rosters available for download?

    • okafor43
      November 6, 2009 at 12:03 pm
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      good question I hope so cause im sure they have the rosters out of order.

    • 65South
      November 6, 2009 at 3:53 pm
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      I'm really hoping that they have the locker feature similar to what they have in NCAA football that will let people name/update the rosters and share with other users.

    • Mastershake jr
      November 6, 2009 at 7:12 pm
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      you cant play anything in 2k10 retard….lol

    • Skihawks
      November 6, 2009 at 8:11 pm
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      I think it will have the EA Locker again so I am sure there will people putting together the rosters…Less time consuming than NCAA Football….

  • Mike
    November 6, 2009 at 2:23 am
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    thx pasta good summery esp for us ps3'ers ;)

  • Steve
    November 6, 2009 at 6:42 am
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    I have PS3 so can you post the whole demo on youtube?

  • okafor43
    November 6, 2009 at 12:07 pm
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    Pasta why didnt EA put as much into college football as they did for ncaa basketball??? Did they just wait for the negative backlash before they decided its time for a decent college game to come out since 2k8 hoops, and yes this college basketball will finally put that game to rest!

  • 65South
    November 6, 2009 at 3:51 pm
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    I didn't really run into any points in the game where it would freeze, but I did have an issue with a very noticeable delay when passing. It seemed to happen almost exclusively when passing while an icon was present, whether it was icon passing in the backcourt or during a play where Y or B was above a cutting man.

    Very frustrating. I would hit the button to pass but it would take a second or so to actually pass causing a delay. It was really a problem for me because the pass would be delayed to guys cutting to the basket, coming off screens, trying to get out on a fast break or just trying to get around the press in the backcourt.

    Did anybody else notice any issues with this?

    • JohnZapp
      November 6, 2009 at 6:49 pm
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      nope

  • Tomba
    November 6, 2009 at 4:32 pm
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    Agree completely pasta.. TOMBA

  • ryan
    November 6, 2009 at 5:02 pm
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    while playing the demo they show ACC records…those ACC standings are out of date.BC didn't go 14-17 last year.

    • JohnZapp
      November 6, 2009 at 6:50 pm
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      ummmm ya they did

    • Skihawks
      November 6, 2009 at 8:12 pm
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      I am sure it was more for demo purposes than anything….Still, like the presentation…

  • JohnZapp
    November 6, 2009 at 6:53 pm
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    oh wait they didnt

  • Rico Laguna
    November 6, 2009 at 7:34 pm
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    -Players lack solid weight to them…they almost seem hollow. Players will turn around and shoot too quickly and choppy.

    -Overall gameplay is too fast…..Player animations a bit stiff, not as smooth and lifelike as 2k10 and Live 10.

    -Inside game is a bit weak as well as the collision and grinding of players into each other…..doesn't feel like solid mass

    -Gameplay gets too fast and choppy at times

    + Presentation is good

    +Players run plays and get open realistically

  • Scott
    November 7, 2009 at 4:59 pm
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    online dynastys aren't everything. They're just an excuse to throw together a sloppy one player franchise mode. Give me a solid offline franchise experience anyday!

  • Jordan
    November 9, 2009 at 3:47 am
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    Love The Demo

  • Ryan
    November 14, 2009 at 11:00 pm
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    why does the ball seem so tiny? also, none of the players are really recognizable and their bodies are awkward and broad. How frustrating is it to have no options for a solid basketball game out on the market, last good game 2k or Live was College Hoops 2k8. So frustrating.

  • Dennis
    November 17, 2009 at 4:06 pm
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    players looks like football players on ncaa basketball 10…it would have been better if their bodies look like the ones in ncaa basketball 09…nba live 10 is better…don't buy ncaa basketball 10 – get 09!!!

  • Jonathon
    November 6, 2009 at 4:08 am
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    oh snap!

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