Reactions to the NBA 2K10 Patch

by pastapadre
Posted November 9th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

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With the highly anticipated patch release for NBA 2K10 yesterday (for the 360) I thought it would be a good idea to look at the reaction the patch was getting around the community as well as adding my own personal thoughts on it.

While 2K did an admirable job of getting the patch turned around relatively quickly there were some core issues with the game that needed to be addressed. Generally patches attempt to enhance aspects of the game or fix errors but don’t have to deal with things as major as framerate or attempting to provide functional online play. Past 2K patches which have attempted to deal with similar issues have proven largely unsuccessful.

The improvements seen with the patch are immediately evident. While the framerate is not perfect the patch has been able to alleviate the majority of the slowdown. My Player mode specifically, which is where I originally noticed the framerate problem, is now much better. The spotlights have been completely removed so that probably was a big factor in the slowdown. It still sometimes gets bogged down when there is a lot of action down low but outside of that the experience is vastly better.

Lead passes and alley-oops are less effective (though the CPU still attempts frequently). The defense plays their assignments better rather than inexplicably leaving players wide open. There is more player contact seen which helps tone down the effectiveness of paint scoring. Shot percentages are much more reasonable though still slant a little high. Uploading of screenshots to the 2K website now works and the quality of them is better. The autosave glitch has not been fixed so even while the feature is turned off it will continue to save. Custom settings for online play still do not save.

Basically the game feels as though it is more sim and less exploitable than it was before. This patch was not just cosmetic as it has made some big differences to the gameplay. Most will be happy with what has been done in that regard.

The very first game I played post-patch I was locked into a single player for some unknown reason. After re-starting I still could not figure this out and had to resort to searching on google to find an explanation. Figured this glitch would’ve been fixed in the patch as the game ends up setting a “preferred position” if you had previously played a My Player mode game.

My Player mode had some glitches addressed such as the crippling “clone” and now the user can set the quarter length. Though some problems in the mode remain most many could be considered subjective or by design. Substitution patterns and the Insider stating a decision needs to be made when there are no options to do so would be issues still worth noting. 2K has stated for the best result users should scrap their current My Player and restart the mode. For those who have sunk hours upon hours into their My Player having to restart is far from an appealing option.

The biggest problem with NBA 2K10 continues to be the online play where not only is performance inconsistent but advertised game modes are not functional. You can check out a video displaying some of the issues seen here. Pick-Up Games, Crew games, Team-Up, and Online Leagues are either very difficult to take part in successfully or just flat out don’t work at all. Here is an example of just one of the many threads in the 2K forum discussing the Online Leagues that have not worked at all this year.

2K10 was sold with promises of using your My Player online and the 2K series is well known for its popular Online League structure. Unfortunately 2K10 can not lay claim to actually providing either mode and understandably consumers are extremely frustrated by that.

Simple 1v1 ranked games are more reliable although some lag and occasional disconnects may still occur. Even after the patch it appears that results of ranked games are rarely recorded.

Whether or not 2K10 receives a second patch is an uncertainty right now. For the most part with offline play people seem satisfied with the result of this patch and the current state of the game. It is a definite improvement over the release product. However for those interested in online play the experience remains unsatisfying and things are not likely to get any better there this year.

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  • bobby
    hi guys, when you want to bitch and moan, do it the right way, come to my FORUM, my forum, shreads 2K sports to bits..

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  • Jason Voorhees
    PART THREE MESSAGE:

    Further, 2ksports, has repeatedly said that they were coming out with a patch for PC gamers, but its been 3 months and NO PATCH - WTF ? all LIES - I dont know about you, but im not buying there game next year, if i cant file a lawsuit against them, ot get my money back, i can certainly hut them by not buying there products, and i suggest anyone tha
  • Jason Voorhees
    2ND PART - OF MESSAGE:


    This is not fair to falsely advertise a game that is suppose to do the things it says, not to mention, crew games, and "MYPLAYER" mode, and association doesnt work properly, you can even save a game or a season if you want because of so many bugs in the game..How can a company like 2k put out a game so poor ? they have been on top for alot of years, and i go way back to the first game they made with allen iverson on the front cover (2001) -

    This is so wrong as a consumer and customer, If you bought a car, and it advertised all different nice things, and then you drive it home, and on the way home your brakes failed, what would you do ? You would either tell the dealership that you bought it from to fix it, (thats providing you didnt DIE on the way home) from and accident. Or you would want your MONEY BACK. Well im telling you there's no difference here, whether you spent $1.00 dollar or a million dollars. Companies by Law cant advertise a product to say it does something that it doesnt..
  • Jason Voorhees
    Let me tell you all something, 2Ksports is going down hill. I am an AVID PC GAMER as well as consoles versions, but i chose to buy the PC version this year. The only reason i bought it, cause it claimed it had online play. (which it doesnt) - So firrst off the bat, 2Ksports are all liars, second, its all about the money with them, so they decided to make the console's more important. But there's a problem with that too...they screwed you guys as well, with a PATCH that doesnt work, a promise of a second one, and me as a PC gamer gets nothing...We all need to unite to either bring a class action Lawsuit agains the company, or Boycott there 2K11 game for next year to teach them a lesson.
  • T
    i downloaded the patch for 2k10. Played it for about a week and now the game just keeps frezzing up on the main menu when i start up the game. It's the usually the bit where it says "checking hdd..." or whatever. I went back to the store and got a brand new cd. Same thing happened. Little help?
  • chiplidaddy
    for some reason when i try to play online, the rosters keep getting set to default rosters. so for example i would play against the rockets that still have yao ming and tmac. is this a problem other people are facing? please help.
  • sean
    The patch for PS3 is out now!!!
  • Gene
    They did a good job. At least with The Association.
  • JJC
    anybody looking to join a NBA 2k10 sim league come over to thespgl.com and sign up in the forums. This is just getting started so thier are many spots open!!!!!!!
  • I think it's time to just acknowledge this game as a beta/warm up what ever for 2k11. Thats not a bad thing though yes we'd like this game to be a good one, i think with all the new features they crammed into this one, unfortunately 2k10 could not deliver them in the right way. Hopefully we'll see them in better action next year. It's sad bad could be true.
  • GM4
    I say sports games go to a longer development cycle (like release a game every two years) and have companies just release roster updates and DLC for a larger fee on the off seasons.

    I'd gladly overpay for rosters and DLC, if the game just works properly. The current cycles are just not working for next gen sports titles. The cycle just isn't long enough to have the development team address everything, especially game play.

    It's a really tough spot they're in. So in order to quit pissing off the public, I'd say that's a solution ... but my fear is that people keep buying the games, buggy or no ... so there's really no incentive to change, even though they should.
  • xX L Boogie Xx
    Great idea, would be awesome for gamers i would be able to deal with a good game with no bugs for two years but here is the thing. They dont really care about gamers and what they think of the game as long as they are still buying it. Going to a two year cycle would cut thier profits in half for a two year period, i mean yea they could charge for the roster update in the season a game isnt coming out but im not and im sure no one else would pay 60 bucks for those rosters

    long story short great for gamers bad for EA/2K's profits, Never gonna happen
  • Gene
    This is sad. When is the patch coming out for PS3.
  • Where is Cabrillo so i can tell him how awful live is!!!
  • Pasta when is the patch comming out for Ps3...terrible that we have to wait later just to get a patch cause they payed more money!! We payed the same 60 bucks for the broken game and have to wait a week later to get it!
  • Havoc 85
    I still have a clone in My Player mode... and when I played against him they made me play on his team in the playoffs. So If I played good my original team would be kicked out the playoffs... and If I played bad my stats and Player grade would go down.... This is highly frustrating when I score 40 to 50 points a game but my average is like 27 cause my clone isn't scoring as much and they average out both of our scores.

    Not to mention when he wins rookie of the year award over me... lol wtf
  • lol don't be jealous! prehaps you could kill him and take his place. no one would know the difference! lol
  • anvil
    we're all lucky to have someone like pasta who isnt afraid to call these games and companies on their faults. jokes like operationsports protect the companies because they want their free games and exclusives from them. only like 2 reviews were actually right on while the rest just gave a high score because of reputation. pasta was straight up about the 2K10 problems and has covered them post release which helps give everyone else a voice and we appreciate that
  • GoBengals
    AND NOW WE JUST WAIT FOR THE FRIGGIN PS3 PATCH
  • hey Pasta, i know the locked player glitch you are talking about. just quit the game and go to continue my player. then exit and play your game, as simpl as that then you will play the game normal.
  • samm
  • eman
    Live is a joke!!! The three point glitch is the main problem. 2K post patch, a way better game and sim. Live needs to address their game because shooting threes in one spots is a joke. Fix this bull shit EA!!
  • GURU
    So where is the video about Live Patch which made the game worst then it was already. I see an update on Pasta's impressions of the patch where he gives it a slight handshake and then says my player and online suck and therefore is not a huge success.

    Fine...

    But why did you not write about how horribke the live patch made nba live.

    Is it bad for business if you diss the company that strokes your manhood.

    What a joke
  • riss
    lol fanboy the live patch made the game so much better. this isnt about live anyway that has nothing to do with how good a job the 2k10 patch is
  • Im loving the patch as far as from a game play perspective the defense is way better in the paint you can't throw a 100 alley oops a game anymore
  • Peruvian Idol
    I picked up my My Player where I left off, starting the second season, by bumping up the quarter length to 10 minutes. The first thing I noticed was the amount of alley oop attempts ha gone way up. I counted 4 in the first quarter alone. Most of them were just tossed up and out of bounds, apparently not directed at any particular player. After five or six games this became very annoying.

    The other thing I noticed is that shots in the paint, especially off offensive rebounds, go in at a much lower rate. There seems to be a lot more contact, but fouls are rarely called. My defensive PF went from shooting 60% last season (pre-patch) to shooting 37% post patch, with most attempts coming directly under the basket.

    Finally, there's a weird glitch that erases the fourth quarter team stats every few games. It doesn't seem to affect your player stats, but your team stats (PPG, at least) take a hit and you're no longer able to view the box score for those games.

    I hope there is another patch in the works. First MLB 2k9 with its blatant bugs (1st baseman not stepping on the bag half the time) and now this thing ships filled with bugs. Who is doing QA over there? These don't make me confident in buying next year's titles at all.
  • .......
    Pasta, I hope you could do a post-patch reaction to NBA Live 10......would like to read up on that.
  • I've got some notes for that upcoming
  • TheLine
    Hi there. Quick Qs: Did they fix the problem with double teams? I mean when you tone down d-help but they still help even if shaq is guarding Telfair in the low post?
    Also does the post help still stands behind the defender?
    Thanks
  • Im loving the fact that u can change quarters if u didnt use the DLC.... LOVE IT
  • It's time these "great" games start getting held accountable. You can tell me until you're blue in the face that a game like MLB The Sho and NBA 2K is the best simulation experience, but if a feature you are claiming to support does not work properly, your game is limited and not living up to expectations, making it not worth it's price tag.

    It's time mainstream reviewers start holding these games accountable and rate games on all fronts. It's also time we stop giving our allegiance to these games, simply because of personal preference. I see so many claiming one game as "game of the year" and I also see that they haven't touched that game in months.
  • totally agree and it's not just one company pulling this bullshit. Both EA and 2K, guilty as charged. I have an idea for both Dev teams, stop fighting over who's title is better to the extent of not even making sure your own ducks are in a row. The sad part of it all is this has become the norm when it come to these titles.

    As much as people want to bash 2K for frame rate issues or online problem, post patch NBA Live has has been pretty close to a joke. I've seen more slow motion alley oops (yes actual slow motion). What ever happened to Dynamic commentary? No trace of it in the game. Dynamic DNA is questionable in my opinion leaving me scratching my head half the time wondering is this shit really working or are we just told it's driving the game.

    Both companies would shit themselves if we as consumers took a stance and decided not to purchase ether game at launch and just wait for the mark down.

    I don't think ether game sucks I just think both companies have gone to far with all the hype and broken promises.
  • ealoverboy
    I agree. This patch is awesome man. Totally agree with 2k being super awesome.
  • Mr. 925
    Good to know. I guess I can go pick this game up now. Thanks for the update.
  • Intresting just played nba live cause i was sick of 2k and broken game and about to hop back to 2k after the patch comes out. They still have malnourished players on live! I thought they had some meat on the bones to the players this year.
  • ealoverboy
    This patch is wicked. Great job 2k!
  • Machines
    It's absolutely staggering to me that 2K still can't get their **** together when it comes to online play. Madden is a lag-free experience. FIFA is a lag-free experience. NHL 10 is a lag-free experience. Countless other multiplayer games are lag-free, yet for what - the 4th year in a row, 2K still can't get a basketball game to work online. Unbelievable. I don't agree with Gametrailers.com all that often, but in their review of 2K10 they said that there are continuing issues with the game that at this point we have to assume just flat out can't be fixed. Problems from 2K7 still plague the series on the next-gen consoles.

    Oddly enough, for the heck of it, my brother and I threw in 2K7 the other night just to compare. Sure, 2K10 looks loads better, but 2K7 still outplays it when it comes to gameplay and control. I can actually control my player in 2K7 vs. the boat it feels like I am driving in 2K10. How disconnected do these devs have to be to not be able to tune in to what the community is asking for. Ronnie blasts EA for putting out a patch, but 2K won't comment on their horrible excuse for online play.
  • BCEAGLES
    why do you guys still support Sports games????? I understand you guys love sports and I do too im obsessed with sports but I have finally given up on next gen sports gaming! EA sports is LAZYYYYY and 2K simply does not have the money to have state of the art studios to put out a good game anymore! Nba2k hasnt been good since NBA2K8 and dont get me started on madden lol heck madden hasnt been good since madden05 on the ps2!!!!!

    Then Nbalive has improved but it still is WHACK gameplay/animation wise compared to 2K but then live has way better online capabilities then 2K and doesnt have framerate problems as much.

    I mean I drive to the paint with Shaq in nba live and hes doing finesse layups like hes a pointguard in a warmup layup line! SMH!!!!

    Why is it so hard for Easports and 2K sports to get it right????

    Instead we get AMAZING games in sports NOBODY GIVES A FLYING F ABOUT unless its playoff time or worldcup time.

    MLB09 and FIFA10 and NHL10

    When will we get game of the year canidates in football and basketball TRUE american sports?????
  • t daley
    When it comes to sports games EA has the money, the facilities and the talent. 2k gave it a good run but there run has ended. Who knows what NFL 2k5 could have led too if it weren't for the dick move they tried to pull on EA back in 2005 (Selling there entire sports line for 19.99). That single act of aggression/stupidity woke the sleeping giant, EA, and they in turn responded with a vengence. You cant blame EA for doing what any company would do when faced with that kind of desparation. 2k has been feeling it ever since.
  • t daley
    2k is on a downward spiral to death. They have no football game, there baseball games are utterly a disgrace, there Basketball titles are failing, and there hockey game is second rate and not even a blip on the radar. There boxing game.........has anyone even bought that crap, and tennis........TENNIS!!!!!!! Does anyone even buy tennis games anymore? 2k is trying to squeeze as much crap as they can out of the MLB license with the BIGS 2, which is a big bore after a couple of hours and MLB front office Manager which is just plain crap. If 2k were smart they would sell out to EA already.
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