NBA Live 10 First Roster Update Analysis

by pastapadre
Posted November 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pm

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Last week I examined some of the players who have started the season playing above or below expectations. In doing so I found that none of the overall ratings in NBA Live 10 had been adjusted. However since then a roster update has been released that has adjusted ratings and added performance streaks.

The following is not a list of all the changes but I did go through the rosters and take note of which players had moved significantly or would be of the most interest. Sure to be noticed is that almost all of the movement was up even with teams that have been terrible like the winless Nets. The only team that saw big losses and no players with gains of over two points was the Hornets.

Revisiting the previous article
Surprises/Hot Starts: Brandon Jennings 80 (+10), Steve Nash 89 (+1), Tyreke Evans 75 (+6), Carmelo Anthony 91 (+1), Chris Kaman 78 (+4)

Disappointments/Cold Starts: Elton Brand 81 (+2), Shaquille O’Neal 84 (+1), Hasheem Thabeet 72 (no change), Stephen Curry 73 (no change), Kevin Garnett 90 (no change).

Thoughts: Nice seeing the positive adjustments to the standout rookies. But how is Hasheem Thabeet still a 72 when his stats would better represent a 50s rated player? And how do two players cited by fans of their own teams as having poor starts actually go up in the ratings?

Notable Changes

Atlanta Hawks: Al Horford 84 (+2), Marvin Williams 78 (+2), Jamal Crawford 78 (+3)
Boston Celtics: Kendrick Perkins 78 (+4)
Charlotte Bobcats: Boris Diaw 82 (+3), Gerald Wallace 82 (+2), Raymond Felton 79 (+2), DJ Augustin 82 (+3)
Chicago Bulls: Joakim Noah 80 (+3), Derek Rose 85 (-1), Kirk Hinrich 81 (+4)
Cleveland Cavaliers: Zydrunas Ilgauskas 79 (+3), JJ Hickson 70 (+3), Lebron James 96 (-1), Delonte West 81 (+3), Jamario Moon 73 (+4)
Dallas Mavericks: Jason Kidd 84 (+3), Jose Barea 75 (+4), James Singleton 71 (+5)
Denver Nuggets: Nene 82 (+2), Kenyon Martin 75 (+2), Ty Lawson 72 (+6), JR Smith 82 (+2), Chris Anderson 79 (+3), Renaldo Balkman 73 (+4)
Detroit Pistons: Ben Wallace 75 (+3), Charlie Villanueva 79 (+3), Kwame Bron 71 (+3)
Golden State Warriors: Monta Ellis 81 (+2), Anthony Morrow 71 (+4), Anthony Randolph 76 (+10), Ronnie Turiaf 72 (+4)
Houston Rockets: Chuck Hayes 68 (+3), Shane Battier 75 (+2), Trevor Ariza 78 (+3), Aaron Brooks 81 (+3)
Indiana Pacers: Roy Hibbert 74 (+4), TJ Ford 81 (+3), Soloman Jones 70 (+3), Josh McRoberts 74 (+4)
Los Angeles Clippers: Sebastian Telfair 75 (+3), Deandre Jordan 75 (+3), Mardy Collins 71 (+3)
Los Angeles Lakers: Andrew Bynum 82 (+3), Kobe Bryant 94 (-3), Sasha Vujacic 70 (+3), DJ Mbenga 70 (+4)
Memphis Grizzlies: Mike Conley 79 (+3), Hamed Haddadi 72 (+4)
Miami Heat: Jermaine O’Neal 81 (+2), Dwayne Wade 94 (-1), Mario Chalmers 79 (+5), Joel Anthony 69 (+3)
Milwaukee Bucks: Luke Ridnour 77 (+4), Dan Gadzuric 76 (+3), Luc Mbah A Moute 68 (+4)
Minnesota Timberwolves: Kevin Love 78 (+3), Corey Brewer 72 (+3)
New Jersey Nets: Brook Lopez 80 (+3), Josh Boone 72 (+3), Rafer Alston 80 (+3), Sean Williams 73 (+4)
New Orleans Hornets: Darren Collison 62 (-6), Marcus Thornton 57 (-11), Chris Paul 91 (-1)
New York Knicks: David Lee 78 (+3), Wilson Chandler 75 (+4), Chris Duhon 79 (+3), Larry Hughes 75 (+3), Al Harrington 78 (+5), Nate Robinson 82 (+4), Eddy Curry 67 (-4)
Oklahoma City Thunder: Thabo Sefolosha 70 (+4), Russell Westbrook 81 (+3), Nick Collison 70 (+3), DJ White 65 (+4)
Orlando Magic: Dwight Howard 93 (+2), Jameer Nelson 86 (+3), Marcin Gortat 78 (+3), Anthony Johnson 74 (+3)
Philadelphia 76ers: Samuel Dalembert 78 (+4), Louis Williams 67 (+3), Willie Green 65 (+3), Primoz Brezec 65 (-3)
Phoenix Suns: Grant Hill 80 (+2), Jared Dudley 68 (+3), Leandro Barbosa 79 (+3), Goran Dragic 71 (+5)
Portland Trail Blazers: Greg Oden 80 (+3), Nicolas Batum 70 (+4), Steve Blake 78 (+3), Martell Webster 53 (-4), Dante Cunningham 57 (-11)
Sacramento Kings: Jason Thompson 70 (+4), Beno Udrih 80 (+3), Francisco Garcia 74 (+3), Sergio Rodriguez 75 (+3), Jon Brockman 55 (-13)
San Antonio Spurs: Richard Jefferson 81 (+2), Antonio McDyess 75 (+4), Tony Parker 87 (-2)
Toronto Raptors: Andrea Bargnani 79 (+3), Jose Calderon 81 (-2), Amir Johnson 75 (+4), Jarrett Jack 78 (+3)
Utah Jazz: Kyrylo Fesenko 69 (+4), Deron Williams 88 (-2), Paul Millsap 73 (+3), Kosta Koufos 71 (+3), Mehmet Okur 77 (+3)
Washington Wizards: Brendan Haywood 76 (+3), Gilbert Arenas 80 (-4), Andray Blatche 75 (+3), Dominic McGuire 68 (+4)

Tags: roster update

Gabe G.

how does CDR not get a boost.

ogkush

Cuz CDR sucks

JiMMz

No sir, CDR does NOT suck.

njnets

CDR definitely doesnt suck, he's averaging 20+ since coming back from the swine flu

deepen03

yup and how bout his 24 pts this afternoon and the 31pts and 10 rebs on thursday and the 27pts and 12rebs on tuesday? this guy is definitely putting the work in to become one of the nets primary options for years to come. Whoever says this guy sucks is not an NBA fan..

eman

when are they going to fix the three point glitch? Live is really fake!!

EO-65

As soon as you stop abusing it thats when they will fix it.

RvG_SPEAR

wtf? Andre Iguodala no upgrade?!

Bruce Bruce

You're kidding me right? Iggy can't even shoot straight and you want an upgrade? What about Temple football? They are one of the top teams in the country now( by way of miracle) do you think they need an upgrade as well?

fatdave

go temple owls!!!!! i wouls say they could use an upgrade.

NoFro904

ummmm Brandon Jennings no where to be found?? or did i not see it

JiMMz

Brandon Jennings 80 (+10)

NoFro904

thanks man didnt even see it

bonez24

this is the update weve been waiting for???? kobe was only leading the league in scoring and his rating gets dropped,also lebron,and d wade,lol. halarious,live sucks big balls

njnets

these ratings are odd... some people got justice while other got unnecessarily better and some got neglected and some got destroyed for no reason.... darren collison and marcus thornton both dropping double digits??? theyve been holding the team together since CP3 went down... they also gave a ratings boost to Batum... who's not even playing right now... shaq has done nothing and gets a boost and delonte west has been mediocre at best and hes an 81 now better than Jennings?? Looks to me as though EA just needs to watch the NBA more often and they would get it right... looking forward to the next update

Matt Hinson

live fuckin sucks nutzzzz

CD-R

I know. And these are horrible ratings

jusmegamer

Chris Anderson (Birdman) is a better player than Jamal Crawford or Marvin Williams, that equals BS. Chris Anderson is overrated on this game.

goose

HEY WHATS UP WITH THE LIVE STATS IN THE MAIN MENU BEING CORRECT, BUT WHEN U GO INTO DYNAMIC SEASON, THE SEASON STATS ARE MESSED UP(I HAVENT PLAYED A GAME YET)IM JUST WONDERING....WHEN U LOOKED AT THE REAL LIFE BOX SCORES, THE PERSONAL FOUL STAT USED TO BE MESSED UP, AND THEY FIXED THAT BUT THE OTHER SEASON STATS ARE MESSED UP??dOES ANYONE HAVE AN ANSWER/EXPLANATION?

Beasley30

Yes i have an answer for you " NBA 2K10"

trent

when is the second patch for nba live 10 supposed to be coming out??

trent

oh yeah whats up with the madden 10 patch???

KozyWorld

I'm a die-hard Nets fan myself, & even i will admit that Rafer Alston hasn't done anything to warrant a boost to an 80. How can you make him that high & not boost CD-R or Trent Hassell?. & Marcus Thornton taking a 11 point decrease is absurd, i understand he was DNP-CD to start the season but he's sure as hell putting in work now.

KB24MVP

hahaha lets see kobes averaging 30 a game, was like 2nd in the lg in paint points up til a few nights ago and he gets dropped 3 points... wow.... so glad i got rid of this shit for 2K

X2KFootballG0dX

Who actually plays this crap? Live needs to be shit canned.

Mark

actually LIVE 10 is a pretty good game of basketball. I played the 2K demo and it was garbage. LIVE 11 will be the best basketball game on the market.

Imaking6004

Chris Duhon 79 Mario Chalmers 79 Mike Conley 79 Lou Williams 67???
And how does Marcus Thornton drop 11 points when he is averaging 10 pts in 15 min a game
This cant be synergy updating these rosters.

Imaking6004

and almost forgot Delonte West 81 DJ Augustin 82 Gilbert Arenas 80!!!

leglockfan

Memphis Grizzlies: Mike Conley 79 (+3), Hamed Haddadi 72 (+4)

I'm a BIG Grizz fan and these numbers are stupid.

Conley should have dropped pts... his PER is terrible and he can't play defense for anything

Haddadi hasn't even gotten the playing time to warrant an increase

Marc Gasol should have gotten a little bump but that would be it. Conley is a JOKE at 79

@iamyo

yeah this ratings dont seem well thought..it...Thabeet is fine at 72...because all those are defense, which is good at..Conley should be in the 60s, Marcus Williams is our best pg, Tinsley-washed up..Marc should be and 80...3rd in the league in rebounds...high field goal percentage..averages a double-double...Hadadi should also be in the 50s or 50s....Live just needs to used fact-based-production based ratings..rather than just picking players...Balkman doesnt even play and he gets a boost.....

gee

I think EA, is trying to EVEN out the teams, so more people would actually play with their favorite team, other than jumping on the Cavs, Lakers, Celtics wagon. I don't think i've played any other teams online yet, and i've played over 20!. I don't really care because i like to play a good game of basketball. Just tweak the game play some more, and get rid of those 3pt shoot glitches; and i am as smooth as KOOL AID. Oh yeah!

slamfan4life

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DrLogic

interesting...................

OptimusP76

Well people Live is broken cause the game does not play right at all i dont play ranked games no more because the gameplay is very bad.What i will play is team play because its fun or live run but the ranked games are messed up very bad u cant control players or the game dont respond no fatigue and they miss to many lay-ups and dunks and to many fake blocks for real the game is really messed up bad till they bring out a new patch i will stick to ofline play games and team and adidas play period cause live needs work bad and i mean bad very bad

Jeremy

how is Dan Gadzuric a 76 on this game? Brook Lopez is an 80. To say Danny G is that good in comparison is just insane! And I am a bucks fan

Why????

Seve Nash dropped 70 points against me online shooting all 3 pointers. Then had the same thing happen to me playing USA vs. Spain with Ricky Rubio dropping 75 pts shooting all three's. Why can't I play tight on ball defense no matter how much I adjust my defensive pressure or attempt to manually? Better yet how is this even possible? David Robinson dropped 70-something once. Kobe dropped 81 once. But I shouldn't see that happen in a game with 5 minute quarters on all three point shots.SMH.......

bob

What I would like to know is when they are going to make a realistic Madden? Comeback AI from the CPU and allowing crappier human players to get a boost. I mean WTF! Guys like Russell from the Raiders passing for 300 yards and 70% completion. These developers should just quit. They should be embarrassed to call this football.

Cordell

How does Kobe lead the league in scoring and drop 3pts in ranking and is the on the cover of the game???? Someone explain this to me....then bump King James to a 96. Kobe should be HOT at 2K sports right now.

jonathanglapion

Maybe you should be so caught up on overall player rating, it's already been stated by both companies it's more about tendencies. Live especially player ratings don't hold as much weight as player tendencies and success rates. This is the future of the rating system as it should be.

AmenRa

Live ratings are horrible!!! This is the worst update I"ve ever seen in sports gaming history. And you wonder why they are getting killed by NBA2K the should concede defeat and focus all their development efforts on Madden.

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